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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 23:22:12 2020 No.12437900 View Reply Original Report

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Scientifically speaking, do irrational numbers exist? The mathfags on this board are arguing about irrational numbers, so what does the science say? Is there any experimental evidence of irrational numbers?

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 23:26:27 No.12437938 Report

Quoted By: >>12438046

>>12437900
If you say that a square with a side length of 1 exists, and that the length of the diagonal exists, then yes. Otherwise I need clarification about your actual question.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 23:27:29 No.12437941 Report

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>>12437900
Same with a circle of diameter 1.
Many such cases.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 23:48:54 No.12438046 Report

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>>12437938
Okay, but is the length of the diagonal irrational? Math says it is, but has it been experimentally corroborated?

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 23:50:07 No.12438054 Report

Quoted By: >>12438177 >>12438425

>>12438046
Yes. How much do you know about quantum computers?

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 23:50:55 No.12438059 Report

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>>12437900
Mathematics is an abstraction. No mathematical object exists physically.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 00:16:29 No.12438177 Report

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>>12438054
I'm not interested in discussing sci-fi.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 00:27:44 No.12438220 Report

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>>12437900
Draw a right angle triangle with sides of some 1 unit length. What is the length of the hypotenuse?

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 00:29:27 No.12438229 Report

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>>12438177
Quantum computers already exist.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 00:43:31 No.12438290 Report

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>>12438229
Adding quantum to any random word doesn't make it sound futuristic or scientific, it just makes you look like a retard consoomer who watched too many Hollywood movies.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 00:51:29 No.12438326 Report

Quoted By: >>12438708

>>12437900
>Scientifically speaking, do irrational numbers exist?
No, the concept of an irrational number is not scientific.
The concept of an irrational number is as vague as that of an unbounded number, or an indescribable number, or a random number, or a digitless number, or a noncomplex number. Just because it makes sense to talk about rational number, doesnt mean that it also makes sense to speak of irrational numbers. What does that even mean?

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 00:52:53 No.12438335 Report

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>>12438290
You're a fucking retard. Get off /sci/ until you have at least a bachelor's degree.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 00:53:06 No.12438337 Report

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>>12438220
Draw a penis on the blackboard? What is the length of that curve?

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 00:57:04 No.12438357 Report

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>>12437900
of course not. Science is rational. based in REASON. not faith. imagine believing in something as irrational as an irrational number, i suppose you believe in magic sky faeries as well?

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 01:01:16 No.12438374 Report

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>>12438335
Stop projecting, dumbass. I called you out for not even knowing what you're talking about, and now you're lashing out like a cornered animal. I was hoping you would learn from the experience and stop acting smarter than you really are, but now I can see you're hopelessly niggerbrained. You need to know your place and respect your intellectual betters. Now fuck off back to wherever midwit pseuds jerk each other off.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 01:02:41 No.12438381 Report

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>>12438374
I wasn't the other guy you replied to.
You are not intelligent.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 01:07:52 No.12438399 Report

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Scientifically speaking, maths is not science.
Stop making these low iq bait threads and go back to where you came from.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 01:11:21 No.12438413 Report

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>>12437900
Yes. They are an identity principal for even roots.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 01:12:51 No.12438419 Report

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>>12438381
I have screenshot evidence, samefag. Let this be a lesson for you, don't pretend to be a better man than you are. You don't know the extent to which you can embarrass yourself.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 01:14:47 No.12438425 Report

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>>12438419
We can all edit webpages buddy.
I meant I'm not this guy >>12438054

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 01:25:54 No.12438472 Report

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>>12438425
So you admit you are >>12438229 and >>12438335 then?
So when you said
>I wasn't the other guy you replied to.
You were just being a knuckle-walking apebrained retard? Couldn't even follow a short, simple post?
Let me guess, you were just pretending to be BTFO'd?

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 01:29:14 No.12438486 Report

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>>12438413
Really? Can you link me to the study or lab report which measures these "identity principal for even roots" to be irrational?

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 01:50:42 No.12438577 Report

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>>12437900
No. Irrational numbers, by their definition, cannot be measured. So science cannot say anything about irrational numbers. Ultimately, it is a religion blindly accepted by mathematicians.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 02:09:19 No.12438659 Report

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>>12438486
1 is the principal of identity also the base whole number component of all of the integers. Any root function can operate over the positive domain. Every even root cannot operate over the negative domain without an additional identity principle eg. i is needed and valid

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 02:16:30 No.12438689 Report

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>>12438659
Do you have a single experimental fact to back that up?

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 02:22:52 No.12438699 Report

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>>12438290
This, better watch out or he'll shoot us with his zapatron rifle

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 02:26:38 No.12438708 Report

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>>12438326

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 03:37:05 No.12438909 Report

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>>12438689
This conversation is more irrational than i. Keep your Marxism.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 03:37:28 No.12438910 Report

Quoted By: >>12438922

>>12438689
A mathematical proof of existence is an experimental fact.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 03:41:18 No.12438922 Report

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>>12438910
Thus, The Fairy Queen.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 03:45:04 No.12438932 Report

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>>12438922
If you can prove a fairy queen exists, then she exists. Go ahead.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 03:47:20 No.12438941 Report

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>>12437900
Infinitards have been eternally btfo'd. You have never seen an irrational number of things, it doesn't exist. In the 21st century maths will become about usefulness. Not a bunch a pseud bullshit about infinities.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 03:48:04 No.12438943 Report

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>>12438941
There was an example already given itt

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 04:13:27 No.12438997 Report

Quoted By: >>12439003

If irrational numbers don't exist, couldn't the same argument be made that non-integer rational numbers don't exist either? Everything you've seen is made of a whole number of subatomic particles

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 04:15:47 No.12439003 Report

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>>12438997
Yeah except rational numbers have a meaningful definition while the reals dont.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 04:16:43 No.12439007 Report

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>>12438932
She can prove herself. I haven't seen her full proof series yet, but the intuitions I've received indicate she has one.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 04:20:26 No.12439012 Report

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>>12439003
Every number you can name has a meaningful definition. sqrt(2) is the diagonal of a square of side 1, that seems pretty meaningful to me. Pi is the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 05:50:22 No.12439158 Report

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>>12437900
>do irrational numbers exist?
No, and shit like sqrt2 should be a giant red flag that there is something fundamentally erroneous with our conception of the mathematical world.

Fortunately we have Saints among us today ready to guide Humanity down the path of Righteousness.

PRAISE SAINT WILD BURGER!

I say

PRAISE!

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 13:08:27 No.12439986 Report

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>>12437900
Depends on whether space-time is discrete or continuous

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