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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 23:01:04 2020 No.12431976 View Reply Original Report

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Why do normalfags consider being a "coward" considered immoral if free will doesn't exist? Is there an evolutionary explanation for this behavior among normalfags? You can't choose the size your amygdala.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:03:17 No.12431985 Report

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>>12431976
It means you're selfishly inclined, hence your lowered value to society and corresponding treatment.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:03:20 No.12431986 Report

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>>12431976
Ever seen a nature documentary where bees collectively attack a wasp and vibrate it to death?

Do not operate outside of social norms. The hive will destroy you for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:09:44 No.12432018 Report

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>>12431986
What an unequivocally american response. You realize the wasp is not a part of the hive? And that clickbait "nature" videos make shit allegories?

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:10:39 No.12432021 Report

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>>12432018
Make another analogy then, faggot.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:12:38 No.12432035 Report

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>>12431985
Society is the single most worthless concept in all of actual manifestation, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:12:44 No.12432036 Report

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>>12431976
I don't think being a coward is immoral, I just dislike cowards.
I also dislike downies, retards, aspies, fags, people with depression, bipolar fags, people with adhd, chinks and indians, plus some other groups I'm not recalling right now.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:14:45 No.12432045 Report

Quoted By: >>12432070

>>12432021
Americans when someone in the class says a four-syllable word

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:16:27 No.12432054 Report

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>>12432036
Hmmm... But people don't come together and form communities based on cowardice, making your entire chain of reasoning a contradiction.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:17:45 No.12432061 Report

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>>12431976
>if free will doesn't exist?
Free will does exist.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:18:47 No.12432069 Report

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>>12431976
>Is there an evolutionary explanation for this behavior
Cowards are a liability in evolutionary terms, at least until the modern era.
>You can't choose the size your amygdala
Life isn't fair.

The way you are has consequences. Luckily humans are able to self analyze and compensate for their shortcomings, usually enough to reach their goals, but it requires overcoming things as powerful as laziness depression.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:18:49 No.12432070 Report

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>>12432045
Alright yeah thats a better analogy but overall you gotta use non-humans otherwise we dumb americans will see it as merely coincidental and unexplainable

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:18:54 No.12432071 Report

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>>12432035
>He types befote flushing his fast food take out shart down the community sewage system paid for by his tax dollars

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:21:46 No.12432087 Report

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>>12432070
*inexplicable
How about "commies when someone in the gulag crinkles their chip bag by accident"

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:24:55 No.12432109 Report

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>>12432061
That's a valid argument, but you have to prove everyone has it first. Otherwise, it's real, but not everyone has it. Same problem with magic, in theory.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:34:59 No.12432157 Report

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>>12432109
A person has freedom of will, and hence he will be rewarded or punished. But his will is subject to the will of Allah, and nothing can take place in the universe that is not willed by Allah.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:35:34 No.12432160 Report

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>>12432087
No I meant unexplainable.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:37:06 No.12432170 Report

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If free will does not exist, then those who react negatively to cowardice have no other choice but to react that way.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:39:50 No.12432181 Report

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>>12431985
>It means you're selfishly inclined

Lmao being a coward is not disdained because of that in the least, it means other males find it easy to bully you its all power dynamics

I'm a coward as well, I can just barely control the fear but I have never been bullied and I was the one bullying, however it was probably only possible thanks to the relatively easy times we live in.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:50:57 No.12432215 Report

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>>12432181
I'm glad you got a chance to be the bully for once. That means this whole collective therapy experience you call the modern era is working. Next I'll let you all choke on these arguments until you're literally torturing each other, and we can move on to addressing the next phase of my trauma.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Dec 2020 23:57:41 No.12432242 Report

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cowardice is not the presence of fear, the opposite of cowardice is not absence of fear. To provide a legitimate example of a fearless person, you'd have to either find the nearest psychopath or a cadaver.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 00:07:51 No.12432276 Report

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>>12431976
> You can't choose the size your amygdala.
You can choose what you do with it

Free will comes from choice. Did you make a choice? Then you have free will.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 00:11:01 No.12432290 Report

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>>12432242
This lad raises a point. Courage is your ability to take action despite fear, cowardice would be your lack of action in the face of fear.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 00:11:40 No.12432294 Report

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>>12431976
Why do you single out "cowardice"? I bet you in practice blame people for all kinds of things in spite of your "disbelief in free will". The real question is, why are people still confused about this in 2020 when compatibilists solved these issues hundreds of years ago? Whether compatibilist notion of free will is the "real deal" is an irrelevant semantic quibble, the point is that there's no contradiction between 1) incompatibilist free will not existing or rather, not making any sense to begin with 2) concepts like choice and responsibility still being valid and useful abstractions.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 00:16:49 No.12432315 Report

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>>12431976
>Why [...] considered immoral if free will doesn't exist?
Morality doesn't even make sense if free will doesn't exist. Think your question through next time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 00:19:59 No.12432326 Report

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>>12431976
All normies are cowards, and some may think you're a psychopath when you are not. Which is ironic, because psychopaths are the biggest cowards of all.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 00:22:46 No.12432336 Report

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>>12432326
Your biases are too obvious. It's not my fault that you're willing to find a reason to give me people to kill.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 02:18:44 No.12432718 Report

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would the people with lungs infected by her pit stink get along with the foot pneumoniafags? I smelled tomoko's feet and now my lungs feel clogged, like her sweat is filling them up. So very infectious. I wish i could study it.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 02:31:20 No.12432752 Report

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>>12432718
never post here again

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 02:37:20 No.12432772 Report

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>>12432752
cope

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 02:38:49 No.12432777 Report

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>>12431976
>Why do normalfags consider being a "coward" considered immoral if free will doesn't exist?
because it was evolutionarily selected for you retard
you admit that free will doesnt exist in the same sentence you ask "why does monkey act like monkey"

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 04:27:25 No.12433083 Report

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>>12432772

Seek medical attention (psychciatric)

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 04:30:18 No.12433089 Report

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>Seek medical attention (psychciatric)

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 05:22:56 No.12433248 Report

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I don't care if enemies are cowards, that's a good thing. But if you are an "ally/friend/comrade/team member" and you are a coward weak spineless loser, then you are getting a big bullet in the back of your head first. Recognizing the weakest links on your own side is the way to ward off those who would betray you, let you down, and stifle your progress towards whatever it is you are doing. Cowards fit into this category of destructive personalities. If I could, I'd cull you.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 06:17:22 No.12433410 Report

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>>12433248
>Recognizing the weakest links on your own side is the way to ward off those who would betray you
>But if you are an "ally/friend/comrade/team member" and you are a coward weak spineless loser, then you are getting a big bullet in the back of your head first.
Wouldn't shooting them first make you the betrayer?
t. ESL

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 14:12:46 No.12434550 Report

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>>12433410
When people use the phrase "bullet to the back of your head", they don't actually mean it. It's just to express that they hate that person.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 14:22:07 No.12434585 Report

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>>12431976
>normalfag
>if free will doesn't exist
No normalfag believes free will doesn't exist. If this is a broader question, socialism

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 19:46:13 No.12436116 Report

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>>12432718
easy there, that is my wife you are talking about

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 20:03:49 No.12436210 Report

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>>12436116
tell her to put on some socks. 60+ million infected pairs of lungs from her feet already.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 23:24:09 No.12437919 Report

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>>12431976
Psychiatrist pill makes your amygdala non functional...

Meth changes the structure of it...

Just evolve, choice is yourse.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Dec 2020 23:32:57 No.12437970 Report

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>>12433410
Yes, which is why accusing someone of being a coward is consent to death.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 00:47:52 No.12438312 Report

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>>12437919
>Psychiatrist pill makes your amygdala non functional...
Which one?

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 00:54:26 No.12438342 Report

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>>12431976
Hi OP I'm going to /thread myself once I have finished my post, because I am certain that I am so correct, that all other responses are completely overshadowed by my superior answer.

Free will does not matter in this case. If everyone didn't have free will and chose to hate cowardice, then that would be attributed as a natural human response against cowardice. However, if free will does exist, then it would be equivalent to saying that humans naturally CHOOSE to respond negatively towards cowards.

Whether or not they have the free will to do so does not change the fact that they do so anyways.

This argument also explains why free will couldn't justify cowardice, since morals don't exist in this system, and the human response is, for lack of a better description, what it is.

/THREAD

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 07:23:29 No.12439386 Report

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>>12432087
How about kikes when someone points out the wooden doors and and the mathematical impossibility of killing and disposing of 6 million people in camps in the span of 4 years?

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Anonymous Wed 09 Dec 2020 09:09:10 No.12439600 Report

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>>12431976
Because people usually do not believe that free will does not exist

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