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0.00...1?

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 18:52:13 2020 No.12427360 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12427383 >>12427400 >>12427410 >>12427431 >>12427446

Ok, now that we finally know that 0.999...=1 as how the reals are built and defined, could we have a number set that allows for 0.000...1 and therefore for 0.999...=/=1?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:01:04 No.12427383 Report

Quoted By: >>12427425

>>12427360
If you choose the right axiom system, I don't see why you couldn't have some epsilon>0 such that 0.999... + epsilon = 1.

I suspect you'd have to work in a completely different set theoretic axiomatization.
Since it seems to me if we had a set {9, 9.9, 9.99, 9.999, ....} which we say represents 9.999..., and a set {0.9, 0.99, 0.999,...} which we say represents 0.999... there is a bijection between these sets. So we can have x = 0.999... 10x = 9.999..., 9x = 9, x = 1.
I don't know how you would modify this to get rid of the 10x-x explanation, whilst also allowing 0.999... to exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:06:37 No.12427400 Report

Quoted By: >>12427412

>>12427360
yes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surreal_number

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:09:43 No.12427410 Report

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>>12427360
.999 is only equal to .9990000000000000000000

It is not even equal to .9990000000000000000001

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:10:58 No.12427412 Report

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>>12427400
where on that wikipedia page does it say 0.999... =/=1?

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Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:16:35 No.12427425 Report

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>>12427383
>I don't know how you would modify this to get rid of the 10x-x explanation, whilst also allowing 0.999... to exist
In that set, hypothetically, 0.(9)*10 would not be equal 9.(9) but equal to 9.(9)-0.(0)9 instead

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Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:18:51 No.12427431 Report

Quoted By: >>12427433 >>12427439 >>12427446

>>12427360
It literally doesn't matter. This doesn't matter.
Reals are a meme, anything can be anything when you're dealing with meme made up rules

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:19:28 No.12427433 Report

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>>12427431
fk yourself aussietard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:20:21 No.12427439 Report

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>>12427431
>meme made up rules
welcome to math

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:21:51 No.12427446 Report

Quoted By: >>12427456 >>12427553

>>12427431
based
fuck reals
>>12427360
>0.999...=/=1
literally true.
all sets are finite I've proven this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:23:26 No.12427456 Report

Quoted By: >>12427483

>>12427446
Prove the set of all natural numbers is finite

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Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:31:51 No.12427483 Report

Quoted By: >>12427491

>>12427456
hitomi's number is the count limit for infinities.
Naturals end at h
and ""Reals(retard)"" end at h
though the requirement is infinite density. so it's finalism under infinity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:33:05 No.12427489 Report

Quoted By: >>12427497

You'd have to define each "number" in terms of two numbers (a;?), like the complex numbers.

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Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:33:51 No.12427491 Report

Quoted By: >>12427600

>>12427483
>hitomi's number
wtf is that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:34:53 No.12427497 Report

Quoted By: >>12427515

>>12427489
Why so? Why do two axis for numbers allow for infinitesimally small numbers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:38:33 No.12427506 Report

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I asked my calc professor. He says it isn't. Are we done yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:40:41 No.12427515 Report

Quoted By: >>12427588

>>12427497
Not perpendicular axes in this case, they'd have to be parallel. The nines in 0.999... never end, so you'd have to express the infinitesimal value as a new string. The ordinal form would be ?+?.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:48:03 No.12427553 Report

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>>12427446
Let me prove otherwise:
The statement P="0.99...=/=1" is not true. Because of the law of excluded middle, the statement P is false. Therefore 0.99...=1. QED

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:50:45 No.12427570 Report

Quoted By: >>12427588

0.0000...1 = 0.
Therefore .999... = 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:55:12 No.12427588 Report

Quoted By: >>12427593 >>12427639

>>12427570
retard
>>12427515
what would these two omegas be as an example?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:56:29 No.12427593 Report

Quoted By: >>12427613

>>12427588
>say something right
Get called stupid by an idiot.
Congrats dude you just said something wrong and pretended to be smart.

0.000...1 = 0.
.999...9 = 1.

It's all just dependent on how you want to look at it.

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Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 19:59:00 No.12427600 Report

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>>12427491
Count limiter.
Also you could construct a Natural number set that is perfectly infinite (as in unnaturally infinite), I call it Satan's unnatural set.
It's pretty gay though because it's the set of natural umber such that density is never infinite as it increases without bound.
which includes a finite element to it and also doesn't make sense. that's why it's unnatural and satanic.
Also because density is never infinite
as n exceeds without bound n/n+1 =/= 1 probably, because it the proof of infinite density.
despite being the discoverer of statan's unnatural and his unreals, I haven't done much work on them, because i'm so invested in hitomi's number.
I make threads about hitomi's number all the time.
basically 1/0

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 20:01:57 No.12427613 Report

Quoted By: >>12427622

>>12427593
You are taking this discussion by face value because you dogmatically believe that 0.999...=1, even if it's right, you are a retard who can't even prove it. Whether 0.(9)=1 or not isn't the discussion we are having here. Maybe read OP for starters
Saying that the sky is blue regardless while people are discussing kantian metaphysics makes you a retard despite being right
Retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 20:03:40 No.12427622 Report

Quoted By: >>12427658

>>12427613

Or maybe I'm just smarter than you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 20:04:32 No.12427627 Report

Quoted By: >>12427643

If .999 = 1 then what is stopping a man from becoming a woman?

As you know, you will never be a woman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 20:06:54 No.12427639 Report

Quoted By: >>12427663

>>12427588
Two infinite strings of digits, for example.
0.999... can never be any different than 1, but 0.999...;9[000...] could differ from 1 by 0.000...;1[000...]

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 20:07:02 No.12427643 Report

Quoted By: >>12427649

>>12427627
Why does transgender discussion get forced on every single board constantly? Is this a raid against the entire internet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 20:08:46 No.12427649 Report

Quoted By: >>12427652

>>12427643
You will never be a woman

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 20:09:32 No.12427652 Report

Quoted By: >>12427670

>>12427649
I don't want to be. Stop forcing transgender discussion on every thread on every board because you political posters are a disease on the internet derailing off all discussions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 20:10:43 No.12427658 Report

Quoted By: >>12427665

>>12427622
Nice gets of delusion, undergrad retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 20:12:35 No.12427663 Report

Quoted By: >>12427821

>>12427639
Interdesting
Is there anything analogous to that in Mathematics?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 20:12:52 No.12427665 Report

Quoted By: >>12427714

>>12427658
0.000...1 = 0 because of the following proof. If the ... represents infinite 0s then you never reach 1 so the value is just 0.
Checkmate highschooler.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 20:13:17 No.12427670 Report

Quoted By: >>12427676

>>12427652
The fact that you will never be a woman is an example of why .999 will never be 1

This is perhaps the only proper usage of the tranny shitposting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 20:14:19 No.12427676 Report

Quoted By: >>12427722

>>12427670
Go back to (r)eddit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 20:23:56 No.12427714 Report

Quoted By: >>12427826 >>12428016

>>12427665
That's not a proof moronic freshman
Go talk to your advisor in your shitty uni state

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 20:25:09 No.12427722 Report

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>>12427676
No u, also please dial 8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 20:45:30 No.12427821 Report

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>>12427663
If you search Lightstone semicolon you'll find similar concepts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 20:46:25 No.12427826 Report

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>>12427714
Cope. That's proof alright.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Dec 2020 21:31:32 No.12428016 Report

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>>12427714
.3333... = 1/3
.66666... = 2/3
.99999999... = ???

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