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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 17:54:20 2020 No.12403886 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12403909 >>12403941 >>12403946 >>12403968 >>12404419 >>12404630

Bros, when are we getting fusion reactors?

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 17:59:29 No.12403909 Report

Quoted By: >>12403950 >>12404414 >>12404496 >>12404684

>>12403886
add 10 years to tbe current year
applies at any point in time
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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 18:05:42 No.12403941 Report

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>>12403886
ITER will be ready for experiments around 2026.
so the final results for a commercial design will be obtained in 2030.
from here on, the findings should be reliable enough for the construction of a commercial reactor.
delays dont play a role, because the construction of a commercial power plant will also take many years.
somewhere around 2040 is probably realistic.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 18:06:37 No.12403946 Report

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>>12403886
N+15 Years where N= current year

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 18:07:08 No.12403950 Report

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>>12403909
More like 25 years from whatever the current date is.

They need to get it producing more energy than it consumes, then they will need a commercial design for it and that design will need to be cheaper than the alternatives.
Even if the fuel is cheap it's not going to work out if the reactor costs $20 billion and takes 15 years to build.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 18:10:51 No.12403968 Report

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>>12403886
SPARC seems promising. They expect fusion energy net gain in 2030. Similiar to ITER but smaller in design. Commerical reactors might become possible in 2040-.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 19:44:47 No.12404414 Report

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>>12403909
you can't /thread yourself newfag

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 19:46:04 No.12404419 Report

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>>12403886
If ITER works the next challenge will be building smaller and cheaper reactors and maybe we'll see some of them in 2050, unless all billionaires of the planet decide to fund a project together. In that case 2040.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 19:49:18 No.12404437 Report

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Oh and of course one of the next major goals would be putting one of these reactors on a spaceship. Travel inside the solar system would become a matter of weeks instead of years.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 19:58:40 No.12404492 Report

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>>12404419
ITER is 25 billion in total.

for comparison:
the EU spends 1700 billion on cornona measures.
germany gave 9 billions on lufthansa without any return.
no need for billionairs.
well, it would perhaps be appropriate in the meantime if we simply took some money from them.
but that is some other topic.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 19:59:30 No.12404496 Report

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>>12404419
this. we need a global effort like the one for coronavirus on nuclear fusion

fuck these anti fusion shills
>>12403909
>>12403946

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 20:06:39 No.12404528 Report

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>>12404419
ITER is a red herring, it's too big, too expensive, and the technology is outdated. I'd be willing to bet money that small scale fusion experiments will turn into commercially viable fusion before ITER achieves first plasma.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 20:09:21 No.12404544 Report

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>>12404496
>we need a global effort
global... but without the world becoming a globohomo communist utopia if possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 20:10:26 No.12404549 Report

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>>12404528
>I'd be willing to bet money that small scale fusion experiments will turn into commercially viable fusion before ITER achieves first plasma
maybe... it will be interesting to see anyway. If someone manages to build a functioning smaller reactor faster than ITER it's even better.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 20:28:33 No.12404630 Report

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>>12403886
>Bros, when are we getting fusion reactors?

15 years, 2035.
It is no longer a physics problem but an engineering problem. This seems like a great project for a billionaire inventor/scientist/engineer

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 20:29:44 No.12404632 Report

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>>12404630
someone should convince Elon Musk to invest into fusion to power his rockets, he will be the richest man in the world soon.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 20:36:58 No.12404646 Report

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>>12404632

He is already doing a lot of amazing projects.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 20:38:17 No.12404649 Report

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5 years. Even the optimists are wrong.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 20:49:23 No.12404684 Report

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>>12403909
>>12403946
The first electric motors were built in 1740s but only became practical for work in 1832.
The first photovoltaics were developed back in 1839, but only thanks to space money in the 60s they became viable technology to get energy.
The idea of Fusion Reactors was developped in 1946, in the 90s we made the first viable fusion reactions. We are expecting net-gain fusion reactions by the 30s, the timescale is nothing to sneer at.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 20:52:37 No.12404697 Report

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>>12404649
I base this prediction off of information that has been leaked in the form of job filings. these filings make clear that one of the major companies has an extremely high performance prototype actively working at the moment. The company is helion energy.

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 20:53:45 No.12404699 Report

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>>12404414
cope and seethe

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Anonymous Mon 30 Nov 2020 21:23:54 No.12404825 Report

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>>12404699
no u

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