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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 00:10:06 2020 No.12393928 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12393962 >>12393981 >>12396649

Tropical Soyuz edition.

Previous thread: >>12390017

On sunday, a Soyuz launch from Kourou. Also, a Japanese launch of a H-IIA will take place that same day.

Also also: SN-8 hop soon.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:13:24 No.12393944 Report

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First for FREEDOM

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:13:27 No.12393945 Report

Quoted By: >>12393951 >>12393954 >>12393976 >>12394103 >>12394316 >>12394339 >>12395001 >>12395028

Reminder that SLS will reach orbit before Starship

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:13:34 No.12393947 Report

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IT'S HOPPENING

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:14:36 No.12393951 Report

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>>12393945
Reminder that you didn't make the first post faggot

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:15:37 No.12393954 Report

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>>12393945
Wasn't it supposed to reach orbit around 2012?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:17:36 No.12393960 Report

Quoted By: >>12393975 >>12393992 >>12393997 >>12393998

Reminder that chuds will not be tolerated in space

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:18:21 No.12393962 Report

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>>12393928
Anyone have that shoop with the Shuttle stack compared to SN8?
That was impressive to me, I can't imagine the reaction if you managed to get a wide audience of normies to see it.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:23:14 No.12393975 Report

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>>12393960
agreed, citydwellers not allowed

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:23:24 No.12393976 Report

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>>12393945

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:24:33 No.12393981 Report

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>>12393928
I love Soyuz launches from Kourou, what a confused mess

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:25:08 No.12393984 Report

Quoted By: >>12394047 >>12395981 >>12396756

>>12393962

>Anyone have that shoop with the Shuttle stack compared to SN8?

Here you go.

>>12393917

Hi there lurker.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:27:28 No.12393991 Report

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>>12393981
A post-Soviet republic selling rocket launches to NATO members and launching from South America does sound like something out of Neuromancer or Snow Crash.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:27:41 No.12393992 Report

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>>12393960
>>12393975
>those confined to tightly packed populated spaces not allowed in space
Yeah that makes sense (not)

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:29:59 No.12393996 Report

Quoted By: >>12394000 >>12394017 >>12394027

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:30:43 No.12393997 Report

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>>12393960
Everyone in space will be Humanoid Underground Dwellers. If things go poorly, they might be Cannibalistic as well.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:30:47 No.12393998 Report

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>>12393960
isn't elon a chud though? he busts unions and has openly made fun of marx and has said communism has never worked

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:30:55 No.12394000 Report

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>>12393996
no, vetoed

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:32:27 No.12394007 Report

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>>12393998
C.H.U.D. means cannabilistic humanoid underground dwellers, which perfectly describes the type of city-dwelling liberals who try to use it to mean "person I disagree with"

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:35:15 No.12394017 Report

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>>12393996
>LunarDragon.png
>only thing it does is add a shitton of dry mass to the second stage
that second stage would neither land nor make orbit btw

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:38:10 No.12394027 Report

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>>12393996
It would be better if the second stage were replaced with a quad engine Centaur stage

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:38:13 No.12394028 Report

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>>12393998
if there's one real tragedy of the BLM movement it's that nobody ever drew attention to the fact that the whole problem directly stems from corrupt police unions and that their "defund the police" case study in Camden NJ was really just union busting. Too bad they can't target unions because then they lose the moral highground.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:38:15 No.12394029 Report

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>>12393954
2015 to be precise

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:39:41 No.12394035 Report

Quoted By: >>12394037 >>12394414

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/01/200108160338.htm
i wonder what the chances are that life extension technology that allows living for hundreds of years to be accessible to middle class people within 50-60 years
>>12394007
its mostly used by communists i thought? but i guess liberals use it as well

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:40:36 No.12394037 Report

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>>12394035
uh yeah sorry I don't really make a distinction between "city dwelling shitty libs" and "communists"

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:41:13 No.12394039 Report

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To you people living out in country to avoid being close to 'those city folk' thinking you'll make it in space over those who are used to density, ngmi I'm afraid

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:42:27 No.12394047 Report

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>>12393984
yeah that's the good stuff

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:42:54 No.12394049 Report

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>>12394007
>liberals calling people sub-human
wowee

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:43:51 No.12394050 Report

Quoted By: >>12394053

yeah
but none of this is spaceflight, can we go back to trying to talk about how propane won't soot up

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:44:51 No.12394051 Report

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>>12393944
I will forever remain pissed that NASA's orbital infrastructure and nuclear parts of STS got gimped for 50 fucking years.

>>12394037
That's because there isn't one anymore.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:45:01 No.12394053 Report

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>>12394050
It will.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:47:09 No.12394060 Report

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>>12394017
yeah, different engines, more fuel, attitude control, idk

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:50:11 No.12394068 Report

Quoted By: >>12394072

there was some guy on about space opportunities in Australia?
https://www.spaceconnectonline.com.au/operations/4643-northrop-grumman-australia-signs-mou-with-gilmour-space-to-develop-space-capabilities

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:51:42 No.12394071 Report

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SOME MORE BEHIND THE SCENES LOOKS FROM OUR BROS EXOS AEROSPACE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol7Oa0I3ecA

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:51:44 No.12394072 Report

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>>12394068
Northrop Grumman Manufacturing Incorporated

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:52:43 No.12394077 Report

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https://youtu.be/_Vn9WMFLV_E

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:56:06 No.12394084 Report

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>>12394071
Based and in a cave with a box of scraps pilled, send 'em to Mars

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:56:38 No.12394086 Report

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>>12393991
This, there's something about my country paying for ~2% of a Soyuz rocket launching from another hemisphere that gets me going

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:59:36 No.12394094 Report

Quoted By: >>12394101 >>12394104 >>12394113 >>12394125 >>12394144 >>12394273 >>12394642

what the fuck France

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:01:27 No.12394101 Report

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>>12394094
>hon hon hon skeilön go nyouum

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:01:43 No.12394103 Report

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>>12393945
maybe only once before cornpop cancels it

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:02:00 No.12394104 Report

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>>12394094
a new concorde? what a nice timing, now that even regular airlines are in shambles

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:02:36 No.12394107 Report

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>>12394104
no, it's Skylon

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:03:33 No.12394110 Report

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tfw no lifting bodies

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:03:47 No.12394111 Report

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>>12394103
wtf i love biden now???

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:04:22 No.12394113 Report

Quoted By: >>12394129 >>12394266

>>12394094
>asking budget 12billion, actual funding sub 100m
>ETA fucking never
>sounds like a great idea, make another
What even are euros?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:08:17 No.12394125 Report

Quoted By: >>12394155 >>12394157

>>12394094
>Another fucking skylon.
Ok place your bets now everyone, how many of these things will Yurop pretend to make before quitting or stalling out early in the prototype stage this time around?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:09:17 No.12394129 Report

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>>12394113
Fond of concepts that will never leave the ground? Hardly a unique position to be in

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:13:27 No.12394144 Report

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>>12394094
French stealing from it's neighbors again? No real shock tbqh.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:16:49 No.12394155 Report

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>>12394125
LMAO no-one tell him that boing and lockheed are buying into SABRE for their own skylon concepts.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:17:16 No.12394157 Report

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>>12394125
Three.
>Skeilon
>Fauxlcon
>Starsheep

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:26:07 No.12394183 Report

Quoted By: >>12394192 >>12394237

>>12393728
>propellant: impulse density
does anyone have a chart or something comparing propellants along this statistic?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:26:40 No.12394185 Report

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I bet ESA could make it work with enough partnerships and bureaucracy but they'd finish it in 2052 after ITER

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:28:12 No.12394192 Report

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>>12394183
subcooled propalox: mostest
methalox: big
kerolox: yes
spicy orange and cancer juice: pretty good
hydrolox: bad

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:45:11 No.12394237 Report

Quoted By: >>12394253 >>12394262 >>12394264

>>12394183

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:48:43 No.12394245 Report

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>>12394192
Regular old liquid water is more dense than all of them, and can be used in 1500+ Isp plasma thrusters. With beamed power you could probably use such a system for earth lift.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:51:15 No.12394253 Report

Quoted By: >>12394256 >>12394264

>>12394237
Why the fuck is this table not sorted

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:52:35 No.12394256 Report

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>>12394253
It is sorted. Look at the rhoE column.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:55:05 No.12394262 Report

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>>12394237
This is the spherical cow number, you have to adjust for ISP to get a practical number.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:55:48 No.12394264 Report

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>>12394237
>>12394253
>>12394256
this is not a useful table, it doesn't factor in the different stoichiometric ratios for oxygen that are required
also their density for propane is way off, I think this is propane at 1 atm and boiling point
>>12394262
yeah

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:56:17 No.12394266 Report

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>>12394113
We euros have this retarded as fucking hell funding system where governments fund the initial research and then expect the researchers to get private funding for doing the thing. And if they manage to do it then we whine how Comapnies not based here are benefitting from the finished product while we barely get anythig from the patents for it.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:58:20 No.12394273 Report

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>>12394094

SkyLon? More like SkyHon.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:59:23 No.12394277 Report

Quoted By: >>12394280 >>12394282 >>12394283 >>12394345

>>12394192
if hydrogen is so shitty then why is it still so good in 2nd stages? Its raw isp makes up for increased tank weight and being able to carry less of it?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:00:11 No.12394280 Report

Quoted By: >>12394283

>>12394277
>Its raw isp makes up for increased tank weight and being able to carry less of it?
Yes if the stage isn't limited by size. In orbit, Isp is king.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:00:41 No.12394282 Report

Quoted By: >>12394300

>>12394277
Yes. Isp is king in second/orbital stages, hence why 0.01g brachistochrones are a thing. It just gets swamped for first stages by the need for raw THROOST to get out of the gravity-loss phase.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:00:59 No.12394283 Report

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>>12394277
uh so it's shitty for single stage performance (which is what we're measuring here) but it weighs much less for a given performance so you can use a much smaller first stage to throw it
>>12394280
shut the fuck up retard

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:06:13 No.12394298 Report

Quoted By: >>12394322 >>12394332

Nov. 28Angara-A5 • Test Flight
Launch time: 0522 GMT (12:22 a.m. EST)
Launch site: Plesetsk Cosmodrome, Russia
A Russian government Angara-A5 rocket will launch on its second orbital test flight. Delayed from December and 2nd Quarter. Delayed from Nov. 3 and Nov. 24.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:06:41 No.12394300 Report

Quoted By: >>12394303

>>12394282
>THROOST

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:08:30 No.12394303 Report

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>>12394300
Yes, that is why hydrolols rockets need SRBs.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:08:46 No.12394304 Report

Quoted By: >>12394311 >>12394313 >>12394729 >>12394842

Why not launch from top of mount Everest?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:09:17 No.12394306 Report

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$\sin\left(x\right)$

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:10:12 No.12394311 Report

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>>12394304
Worse inclinations than KSC plus you'd need to have your first stage passing over China the entire way.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:10:26 No.12394312 Report

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>>12392692
Since the Starlink satellites communicate through laser and can obviously communicate with each other they could certainly all focus their lasers onto a single satellite to continually heat it up to the point of inoperability or even outright melting it fairly easily.
Since the Starlink constellation is going to have 42,000 satellites that means 84 Starlink satellites could be focused on each Chinese satellite all at the same time.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:10:54 No.12394313 Report

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>>12394304
rockets reach the height of mt everest like in a minute

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:11:16 No.12394316 Report

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>>12393945

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:12:33 No.12394319 Report

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Are starlink satellites more environmentally friendly than land based cable?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:13:28 No.12394322 Report

Quoted By: >>12394329 >>12394337 >>12395974

>>12394298

That is outdated information, the date has shifted to December the 4th:

https://ria.ru/20201123/angara--1585932853.html

>>MOC?BA, 23 ?o? - P?A Ho?oc??. B?opo? ?c???a?e????? ?yc? pa?e??-?oc??e?? ???e?o?o ??acca "A??apa-A5" c ?oc?o?po?a ??ece?? ? Ap?a??e??c?o? o??ac??, o??o?e???? ?o ?e????ec??? ?p????a?, ?o?e? coc?o???c? 4-5 ?e?a?p?, ?a????? P?A Ho?oc?? ?p? ?c?o????a ? pa?e??o-?oc???ec?o? o?pac??.

English translated:

>>MOSCOW, November 23 - RIA Novosti. The second test launch of the Angara-A5 heavy-class launch vehicle from the Plesetsk cosmodrome in the Arkhangelsk region, postponed for technical reasons, may take place on December 4-5, three sources in the rocket and space industry told RIA Novosti.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:15:45 No.12394329 Report

Quoted By: >>12394341 >>12394346 >>12394542

>>12394322
Damn, is there an accurate space launch schedule tracker? Spaceflight Now always seems to have a bunch of wrong entries.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:15:50 No.12394331 Report

Quoted By: >>12394344

>>12394107
Ahem, Le Skylon.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:15:51 No.12394332 Report

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>>12394298
>second orbital test flight
Why is it taking them so long to get this thing fully operational?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:17:02 No.12394337 Report

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>>12394322
Why is there a US flag on that squatrocket?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:17:06 No.12394339 Report

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>>12393945
>yfw Musk manages to get a starship just over the 100km line a few days before SLS
>yfw it lands back successfully

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:17:48 No.12394340 Report

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>>12394339
Yeah I guess you could say hundreds of days is "a few".

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:18:27 No.12394341 Report

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>>12394329

For Russian launches, the Russian launch manifest is VERY accurate:

http://www.sworld.com.au/steven/space/russia-man.txt

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:18:52 No.12394344 Report

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>>12394331
No, thats German for The Skylon The.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:19:18 No.12394345 Report

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>>12394277
Once you're out of the gravity well, mileage is king. Would you rather drive uphill with a beast of a 4x4 diesel that chugs fuel like a motherfucker or would you do it in a compact car that can barely pull its own weight in a slight incline but can go almost forever on the flats?

That's why hydrogen is complete shit as long as we're bound by gravity.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:19:19 No.12394346 Report

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>>12394329
maybe NSF's calendar? https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=calendar
All of my autism sensors are saturated by that place so their calendar may be more accurate and up to date

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:23:13 No.12394359 Report

Quoted By: >>12394366

>>12394337

That is because of ILS:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Launch_Services

>>Headquarters Reston, Virginia, U.S.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:27:27 No.12394366 Report

Quoted By: >>12396391

>>12394359
>exclusive rights to the worldwide sale of commercial Angara and Proton rocket launch services
>Lockheed-Martin
lel what

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:28:45 No.12394369 Report

Quoted By: >>12394373 >>12394736 >>12395963

That's it. I'm sick of all this "Super-dense methane" bullshit that's going on in the solar system right now. Hydrogen deserves much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned genuine hydrogen in Florida for $20,000 (that's about 2 jobs in Alabama) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even produce 7000kN of thrust with an engine.

Aerospace chemists spend years working on a single tank of hydrogen and crack it up to a million times to produce the finest fuel known to mankind.

Hydrogen is thrice as powerful as hydrocarbon fuels and thrice as forceful for that matter too. Anything propane can push; a hydrogen can push better. I'm pretty sure a hydrogen could easily lift a moon mission with a simple booster-sustainer rocket.

Ever wonder why space agencies never bothered using non-hydrogen fuels to go to the moon? That's right, they were too scared make the attempt using inferior fuels. Even during the Space Race, Soviet spies targeted the American engineers with the hydrogen knowledge first because their power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Hydrogen is simply the best fuel that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the solar system. Here is the stat block I propose for hydrogen:

(Upper Stage Exotic Fuel)
Thrust coefficient of 3
550s specific impulse
+2 to storage density
Counts as Masterwork

(Booster Stage Exotic Fuel)
Thrust coefficient of 4
500s specific impulse
+5 to storage density
Counts as Masterwork

Now that seems a lot more representative of the power of hydrogen in real life, don't you think?

tl;dr = Hydrogen needs to lift more in the solar system, see my new stat block.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:30:43 No.12394373 Report

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>>12394369
You glorious motherfucker.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:49:26 No.12394414 Report

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>>12394035
Fucking zero percent. Cope.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:04:23 No.12394462 Report

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>>12394339
Bigger question to ask would be if NASA would pay off Elon to postpone any SN launches beyond 2021 to reduce the potential embarrassment. Implying that the gateway contracts and other NASA commercial delivery contracts are not already being given out with that in mind.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:12:47 No.12394486 Report

Quoted By: >>12394570

>>12394462
NASA doesn't have the foresight or care to do something like that, and Elon wouldn't take it. Certainly Jim's NASA wouldn't do that, since they like Starship and would use its success to whip oldspace into shape, and there's a chance some of that spirit perseveres into the next administration.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:18:47 No.12394503 Report

Quoted By: >>12394506

>>12394312
You might be on to something here...

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:19:31 No.12394506 Report

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>>12394312
>>12394503
the interplanetary lasers would be better for that, but yeah

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:28:30 No.12394527 Report

Quoted By: >>12394537 >>12394544

>>12393683
>>12393728
Decided to do calculate thrust per unit area for these 3 engines. Units are Meganewtons per meter2

>Raptor goal (300 bar)
1.846 MN/m2

>Raptor current
1.477 MN/m2

>Merlin
1.279 MN/m2

>BE-4
0.864 MN/m2

Of course time will tell if the Raptor can hit its ambitious goals and if the BE-4 will improve any (engine is supposedly performing "better than expected").

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:31:03 No.12394537 Report

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>>12394527
Raptor is already 300 bar and has reached even further since that nu-male astronaut did his research.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:31:42 No.12394539 Report

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What's in the mystery delivery in Boca Chica? o_o

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:32:17 No.12394542 Report

Quoted By: >>12394568 >>12395261

>>12394537
300 bar consistently or 300 bar as a brief peak? Sorry, a bit behind raptor developments

>>12394329
maybe this one? https://nextspaceflight.com/

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:32:36 No.12394544 Report

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>>12394527
based and thrust/area pilled
Also BE4 is probably unoptimized as fuck and it's entirely the fault of their testing regime.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:37:05 No.12394552 Report

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>>12394544
testing regime?
Anyways, yeah it's really cool how SpaceX apparently deliberately optimized for thrust/area. The raptor is larger than the merlin but it's more taller than wider. Does any other engine have the lox pump directly above the injection plate?

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:42:17 No.12394564 Report

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>>12394552
>testing regime?
yes:
>just make a couple of operational prototypes
>sloowly test them bit by bit
Had they done what SpaceX did with raptor and started pumping them out and blowing them up the second they had something that halfway worked, BE4 would be operating years ago and likely at higher performance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:44:34 No.12394568 Report

Quoted By: >>12395367

>>12394542
They got 330 bar for peak before slight issues, so I assume 300 bar consistent is easily doable as its 10% below the max threshold. Elon even said they'll push further to get more safer/stable peaks.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:46:09 No.12394570 Report

Quoted By: >>12394587 >>12394785

>>12394486
>NASA doesn't have the foresight or care to do something like that
To be fair, NASA has stunted the development of multiple launchers and spacecraft that has been seen as an existential threat to the then current managerial regime. It's the core reason why the shuttle continued flying and all alternatives like the HL-20 and Shuttle-C were utterly dismissed. Hell if you wanted to go full conspiratorial you could argue that VentureStar wasn't given it's fair chance due to the regime at NASA not wanting to shake up the then current Shuttle administration

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:52:54 No.12394585 Report

Quoted By: >>12394599

>>12394539
Experimental alcubierre warp engine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:53:44 No.12394587 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394570
That's entirely internal. Starship isn't competing for a slice of the NASA funding pie (paltry amounts here and there, but nothing by administrative standards), the same pressures don't apply and they have no leverage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:01:22 No.12394599 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394585
really? amazing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:07:26 No.12394611 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394539
Rolls of outgassing tape

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:08:20 No.12394614 Report

Quoted By: >>12394616

>>12394539
Metal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:10:01 No.12394616 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394614
It comes from hell

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:10:43 No.12394619 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394539
superheavy legs

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:11:34 No.12394620 Report

Quoted By: >>12394623 >>12394634 >>12394635 >>12394640 >>12394644 >>12394649 >>12394650 >>12394663 >>12394688

does the BE-4 have ANY advantages over the Raptor?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:13:00 No.12394623 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394620
OldSpace have glomped onto it as the new big thing. In the words of that one Joe Scott video I saw on it it's apparently a "game changer"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:14:41 No.12394626 Report

Quoted By: >>12394631

Honestly I can't think of a single one

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:14:50 No.12394627 Report

Quoted By: >>12394721

>>12394539
This? Probably crane parts, maybe landing legs but seems too big for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:15:48 No.12394631 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394626
I feel like posting this exact comment in every /sfg/ that goes by yet never muster up the courage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:16:39 No.12394634 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394620
More margin for reusability/future improvements? This is just a speculation though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:16:47 No.12394635 Report

Quoted By: >>12394638

>>12394620
BE-4 will save spaceflight

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:17:44 No.12394638 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394635
based blue origin whitepiller

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:18:12 No.12394640 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394620
Lower chamber pressure and less strenuous operating conditions might end up in it having a longer service life, however since Blue are fucking black book fags about the actual details of their rocket, that assumption may not be well founded.
Until Blue are actually open about what their engine does, I will assume it's a piece of shit anemic in all significant qualities and their silence is borne of embarrassment.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:19:35 No.12394642 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394094
>france actually does make it
>only the most baguette of the baguettes can actually make it into space, flights with terrorists conveniently explode
>french colonize the moon
>a few decades pass
>earth is overrun by mutts with a few long noses trying to herd them
>suddenly spaceX starships hurl themselves into the atmosphere and land
>squadrons upon squadrons land and start blasting upon the soulless mutts like a contra level
>nosebergs are shocked at years of degeneracy being undone within hours
>Ashton (formerly X Æ A-12 (Elon left Grimes and found yet another midwife on Mars)) Musk is about to shoot a merchant in the face
>a flock of hyperstars suddenly swoop in
>suddenly the minecraft villager Ash was about to turn into hamburger meat gets backstabbed and collapses
>the murderer uncloaks his suit
>utters this: https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/c/cd/Spy_laughlong01.wav
>next war on earth is the great Rhodesian-French war

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:19:53 No.12394643 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394051
I'm pissed that nuclear propulsion in the private sector got gimped. Micronuke NTRs pls kthx

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:20:27 No.12394644 Report

Quoted By: >>12394651 >>12395157

>>12394620
absolutely never honks, and doesn't have molten diarrhea

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:21:08 No.12394647 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394262
Correct

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:21:24 No.12394649 Report

Quoted By: >>12394654

>>12394620
It can be sold to even slower aerospace companies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:21:35 No.12394650 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394620
No on every metric of thrust (per weight, volume, area, dollar, etc), unknown but almost certainly no on efficiency, maybe on readiness but as long as it hasn't left a test stand I don't accept it. Of course if you're not BO the biggest advantage it has is they'll actually sell it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:21:50 No.12394651 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394644
dubs of truth

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:23:09 No.12394654 Report

Quoted By: >>12394676

>>12394649
ULA reminds me of automakers, except they dont even make their own engines now lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:25:37 No.12394659 Report

Quoted By:

Reminder, 3 days left till 15 KM flight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:26:39 No.12394663 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394620
Cost Plus contracts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:27:49 No.12394666 Report

Quoted By: >>12394675 >>12394680 >>12395067

Here's a question: Merlin performance was increased substantially since Falcon 1. Assuming BO follows a similar path with BE-4, and two launch vehicles rely on BE-4, could ULA be left out of engine upgrades? Or is BO okay with increasing the performance of their competitor's vehicle? Hmmm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:30:43 No.12394675 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394666
Vulcan will probably only sell government contracted launches

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:30:47 No.12394676 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394654
>they dont even make their own engines now
They never did. RL-10 is an Aerojet Rocketdyne product, as is the RS-68, while the Atlas first stage engines are Russian leftovers. ULA handles tankage, assembly, and launch operations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:33:15 No.12394680 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394666
Wasn't it internal ULA R&D that got the engine actually working? I'm sure they have some kind of sharing agreement anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:37:34 No.12394688 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394620
Current tests show that the BE-4 can offer the best performance per engine however raptors cost=/=performance is 3-5 times cheaper while providing 0.20 less MN thrust per engine compared to the BE-4. Both engines make the RS-25 look like a fucking joke, at least at sea level.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:41:37 No.12394696 Report

Quoted By: >>12394836 >>12394841

Approximately how much are most satellites worth in scrap value?

I was brainstorming idea for a spaceplane about 2/3 the size of the Shuttle and 1/4 its gross weight. It's primary role would be repair services, personnel transport, and also returning defunct or decommissioned satellites to earth for scrapping. I was hoping the vehicle would be just small enough to replace the second stage of a Falcon Heavy.

Could satellite scrap value potentially pay back development costs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 04:48:24 No.12394704 Report

Quoted By: >>12394724 >>12394728 >>12394757 >>12394873

https://images.nasa.gov/details-KSC-20201121-MH-MAT01-0001-Sentinel_6_Live_Launch_Coverage_USAF_30th_SW_Isolated_Views-3263265

this is really cool. End-to-end F9 booster tracking courtesy of the USAF

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 05:03:17 No.12394721 Report

Quoted By: >>12394723

>>12394627
Holy fuck what if they randomly go back to the ITS landing leg design for super heavy. Half of you would be pissed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 05:04:11 No.12394723 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394721
landing legs are a "contentious" design point right now at SpaceX

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 05:06:02 No.12394724 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394704
This is fucking awesome

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 05:06:48 No.12394728 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394704
neat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 05:06:53 No.12394729 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394304
Is cold and windy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 05:10:33 No.12394736 Report

Quoted By: >>12394741

>>12394369
Hydrogen a shit.
Methane is the good stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 05:12:29 No.12394741 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394736
If everyone farted in the direction of NASA, the space agency could recoup a lot of cost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 05:20:25 No.12394757 Report

Quoted By: >>12394891

>>12394704
Made a webm of the landing last thread >>12390699

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 05:39:55 No.12394785 Report

Quoted By: >>12394822

>>12394570
At least HL-20 (and X-38) lives on through the Dream Chaser

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 06:04:06 No.12394822 Report

Quoted By: >>12394832 >>12394904

>>12394785
I believe the HL design itself was not only inspired by, but was a direct descendent of the MiG-105

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 06:14:54 No.12394832 Report

Quoted By: >>12395181

>>12394822
You'd be right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 06:18:06 No.12394836 Report

Quoted By: >>12394841 >>12395602

>>12394696
No, scrap value will not pay for a billion dollar spaceplane... but government contracts to snatch Chinese birds out of the sky and return them to Earth would. That was DoD's whole desire for the Shuttle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 06:20:21 No.12394841 Report

Quoted By: >>12394847

>>12394836
>>12394696
if you're going to build a reusable spaceplane, it needs to have enough delta v to function as the upper stage of a reusable booster
hopefully you can just buy booster launches lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 06:20:21 No.12394842 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394304
the hard part isn't getting 200km up, it's going 7 km/s sideways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 06:24:13 No.12394847 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394841
And then SpaceX builds a Shuttle style clamshell+arm+cockpit satellite repair/retrieval Starship and puts you out of business. The only way a traditional spaceplane beats that is for cargos that can't handle the 3G flip burn at landing, like fragile satellites or injured people.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 06:31:12 No.12394858 Report

Quoted By: >>12394862

Will starship get a Canadarm?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 06:35:31 No.12394862 Report

Quoted By: >>12394871

>>12394858
No, it'll get an American arm thanks to ITAR.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 06:40:04 No.12394871 Report

Quoted By: >>12394885

>>12394862
Chad Arm•Erica vs. the virgin Canadarm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 06:41:27 No.12394873 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394704
The mach vapor is cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 06:49:28 No.12394885 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394871
Make Arm•Erica Grab Again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 06:52:30 No.12394891 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394757
Damn that's pure falcon kino

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 06:58:38 No.12394904 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394822
Which was inspired by Dyna Soar and direct descendant of X-24A, and by proxy the HL-10

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 07:18:40 No.12394927 Report

Quoted By: >>12395023

>believes space is real

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 07:22:57 No.12394935 Report

Quoted By: >>12394937 >>12394944

I cant fucking believe the hop is NET 2 DAYS
WhAT happened it was supposed to be Q2 2021 bros, did we get too cocky 600hz bros? oh no no NO NO i don t want to suck elon's cock

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 07:24:32 No.12394937 Report

Quoted By: >>12394943

>>12394935
boca chica is going to be scrub central

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 07:27:19 No.12394941 Report

Quoted By: >>12394947 >>12394961 >>12394994

>hydrolox sucks bro it's so weak

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 07:28:17 No.12394943 Report

Quoted By: >>12394947

>>12394937
I predict not only will the hop not scrub, it will happen exactly on time. And it will land perfectly first try. See you all monday

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 07:28:21 No.12394944 Report

Quoted By: >>12394948

>>12394935
>2020
>he STILL thinks shitship isn't going to be BTFO by baSedLS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 07:29:46 No.12394947 Report

Quoted By: >>12395003

>>12394943
it will land in a perfect fireball
>>12394941
how very undense of you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 07:30:16 No.12394948 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394944
>shitship
>not starshit
Come on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 07:38:26 No.12394961 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394941
>pic unrelated

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 07:57:19 No.12394994 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394941
where's the liquid oxygen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:00:03 No.12395000 Report

Quoted By: >>12395032 >>12395103

thunderf00t says there's no life on venus, he proved it in a debate with a real scientist. so i guess we shouldnt go there to check. i think nasa and peter beck should cancel the venus missions, waste of money and time. thankful for thunderf00t to run the numbers before we fall into suck cost fallacy. king of the debunkers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:01:10 No.12395001 Report

Quoted By: >>12395007

>>12393945
that girl is hot, what's her name?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:02:38 No.12395003 Report

Quoted By: >>12395005 >>12395011 >>12395078 >>12395360

>>12394947
You wanna know how I know it won't crash in fire? Pic related. Nuff said

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:03:16 No.12395005 Report

Quoted By: >>12395009

>>12395003
what is this and where is it from

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:04:18 No.12395007 Report

Quoted By: >>12395045

>>12395001
the endless eight math problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:04:48 No.12395009 Report

Quoted By: >>12395083 >>12395360

>>12395005
It's from the guys who developed X-Plane flight sim lmao
https://youtu.be/5xJkbCWVAHA

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:05:06 No.12395011 Report

Quoted By: >>12395016

>>12395003
some dork that made an iPad app flight sim and put in a starship version of it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:06:48 No.12395016 Report

Quoted By: >>12395024

>>12395011
That dork created the best flight sim known to man until MSFS 2020 was released

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:08:38 No.12395023 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394927
>believes he is real

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:09:22 No.12395024 Report

Quoted By: >>12395033 >>12395315

>>12395016
is dork derogatory?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:10:38 No.12395028 Report

Quoted By:

>>12393945
Starship is getting cancelled for environmental reasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:12:07 No.12395031 Report

Quoted By: >>12395563

>>12393998
Yes and that's why he's getting cancelled right after Tr*mp is jailed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:15:08 No.12395032 Report

Quoted By: >>12395047

>>12395000
I know right? I was reluctant to let my gf go on vacation with her work buddy, but then Thunderf00t debunked my concerns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:15:08 No.12395033 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395024
no?i agree he's still a dork. A special dork

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:21:11 No.12395045 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395007
i dont follow, i just want to kiss her or smell her

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:22:21 No.12395047 Report

Quoted By: >>12395049

>>12395032
Is her work buddy's name Phil Mason?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:23:53 No.12395049 Report

Quoted By: >>12395062

>>12395047
Not sure, she doesn't want to tell me and I don't want to intrude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:34:43 No.12395062 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395049
Yeah that's smart, jealousy is super unattractive to women. She might not want to fuck him now, but if you question her faithfulness she will :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:37:27 No.12395067 Report

Quoted By: >>12395073

>>12394666
You can only improve performance if you left that room in there to begin with
If you are already close to optimal numbers then it’s not like you can magically double chamber pressure

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:39:08 No.12395070 Report

Quoted By: >>12395077 >>12395079 >>12395086 >>12395087 >>12395090 >>12395094 >>12395096 >>12395121 >>12395124 >>12395570 >>12395767 >>12396342

>basically just repeates wikipedia with no rhyme reason or interesting addition to it
>Went to a shitty college and nonchalantly mentions his high grades there like if it he was being humble by not bringing up his achievement when in actuality is unimpressive as hell.
>wants to milk out sympathy by fixating on his speech disability which obviously doesnt impede his understanding, was obviously bullied to hell in high school but for being an obnoxious piece of shit and he thinks its because of this
>Avoids politics but literally everything he says is political support for the tamest version of left wing sjw imaginable. Oh it doesnt matter if were socialist or capitalist technology will fix all, YES ITDOESMATTERYOUFATFUCK
>Fucking can't go 2 seconds without mentioning he was in the military like if it made it look like this interesting and sort of macho man when in reality he's just like any other poor nigger who went to wageslave for the us army for college education and was probably refered to as lispy mcfat tits by his teammates and didnt even get buff while there
>cringely parades his "wife" who is clearly targeting him for his youtube money like if he suddenly stopped being an undesirable weirdo at age 35 (clearly he was a virgin before meeting her) when in reality what will happen is she will divorce her once shes pregnant with a real man and he will have to open two more youtube channels to raise someone elses children
>acts as if he was this sort of superior educatedly gentleman because their parents were so clinically retarded as to name their children after famous people, whenever he has to quote an author/source he uses the most uninspiring piece of shit taht a popsci writer would be afraid to quote for fear of appearing too unoriginal, he has the dullest blandest piece of shit books in display. He quotes the shitty objectively bad writer Larry Niven like if he was some sort of sci fi connoseur for naming someone other than Asimov.

did i forget something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:41:35 No.12395073 Report

Quoted By: >>12395081

>>12395067
The hypothetical assumes improvement. I'm wondering if Blue's improvements would pass along to ULA, effectively improving Vulcan's performance. I assume yes, but only because it'd be cheaper to maintain a single BE-4 line than a ULA one vs Blue one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:43:33 No.12395077 Report

Quoted By: >>12395085

>>12395070
tldr. imagine being this obsessed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:43:35 No.12395078 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395003
The sheer
S T A N C E

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:43:40 No.12395079 Report

Quoted By: >>12395082

>>12395070
have you been watching his streams or something? that's not healthy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:44:48 No.12395081 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395073
I would assume they would simply not upgrade their engine unless they are paid to do so, like every other old space operation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:44:48 No.12395082 Report

Quoted By: >>12395095

>>12395079
yes, and trying to make sense of it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:45:10 No.12395083 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395009
this guy is incredibly based and goofy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:45:50 No.12395085 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395077
>lets ignore bad stuff and let it take over the world because if you care to denounce wrongnes youre "obsessed"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:45:57 No.12395086 Report

Quoted By: >>12395097 >>12395121 >>12395663

>>12395070
You left off repeating obvious facts at length
>If you double the radius of the o'neill cylinder, while leaving the length unchanged, the volume quadruples
>if you TRIPLE the radius, the volume goes up by a factor of 6
>if you quadruple the radius, the volume goes up by a factor of 8
Thank you Isaac, we get it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:46:15 No.12395087 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395070
literally who

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:47:51 No.12395090 Report

Quoted By: >>12395102 >>12395108

>>12395070
Isn't he the one who's into shit eating? I can't remember which space e-celeb but I know for a fact one of them loves fecal play

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:49:26 No.12395094 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395070
Now kiss

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:49:37 No.12395095 Report

Quoted By: >>12395102

>>12395082
you should stop

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:50:23 No.12395096 Report

Quoted By: >>12395098 >>12395102 >>12396221

>>12395070
A lot of the esoteric sci fi stuff he discusses is kind of retarded too

>look at all this crazy shit you can do with infinite free materials, time and energy

Ok I guess?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:50:51 No.12395097 Report

Quoted By: >>12395112

>>12395086
At no point will anyone make an O’Neil cylinder anyways

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:50:55 No.12395098 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395096
It's also just machinery. He doesn't know enough about people to envision any sort of future society.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:51:16 No.12395099 Report

Quoted By: >>12395106 >>12395107 >>12395109 >>12395126 >>12395573

Would a $200,000 price ticket stop you from going to Mars?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:52:37 No.12395102 Report

Quoted By: >>12395107

>>12395096
esoteric is extremely generous for a character like him, hes just one of many fat youtubers who realized which random sounds get him money, a sad product of evolution
>>12395090
if thats a made up difamation thing its well deserved

>>12395095
you literally dont know what youre saying

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:52:44 No.12395103 Report

Quoted By: >>12395114 >>12395953

>>12395000
Link to the "debate" lmao-
https://youtu.be/SEilOUvxlvg

the funny thing is the paper doesnt say it was aliens, it just ruled out all other known phosphine generation processes. since life has not been ruled out it stands as a possibility, equally with some unknown abiotic process. We should go there and find out instead of debating clickbait popsci articles that reported the discovery as "ALIENS FOUND"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:53:39 No.12395106 Report

Quoted By: >>12395111 >>12395115 >>12395122 >>12395873

>>12395099
depends, what happens if i take out a loan and i cant pay it back while im on mars?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:54:00 No.12395107 Report

Quoted By: >>12395119

>>12395099
yes I'm poor
>>12395102
you should stop wasting time on cringe youtubers and instead waste time here with us
post pictures of Starship

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:54:23 No.12395108 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395090
lmao wtf? you could post this about anyone. just "speculation" hahaha

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:54:58 No.12395109 Report

Quoted By: >>12395115 >>12395873

>>12395099
I'd max out my globohomo earth-side credit cards, and default on the loan once i'm on Mars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:55:48 No.12395111 Report

Quoted By: >>12395118

>>12395106
Debt slaver

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:56:27 No.12395112 Report

Quoted By: >>12395364

>>12395097
or terraform Mars!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:57:16 No.12395114 Report

Quoted By: >>12395123

>>12395103
The paper authors were really pushing the alien angle hard though, with no real basis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:57:23 No.12395115 Report

Quoted By: >>12395141

>>12395106
>>12395109
Deportation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:57:39 No.12395118 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395111
((they)) won't be able to reach me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:58:17 No.12395119 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395107
>you should stop wasting time on cringe youtubers and instead waste time here with us
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:59:20 No.12395121 Report

Quoted By: >>12395143

>>12395086
but wait what happens if we sixtuple it? doeos it go up by a factor of six?
>>12395070

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 08:59:37 No.12395122 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395106
Inconvenient for you airlock de pressurization.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:00:07 No.12395123 Report

Quoted By: >>12395128 >>12395146 >>12395150 >>12395152

>>12395114
but life does make phosphine. it's the only known process they couldnt rule out. how can you argue harder for an unknown process without evidence?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:00:21 No.12395124 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395070
pic of his wife, im not good looking but im better than that at least, i wnat to know what i can reasonably expect

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:02:45 No.12395126 Report

Quoted By: >>12395137

>>12395099
I'm 24 and my net worth recently passed 100k, so I think by the time tickets are actually being offered to Mars and the Moon, I'll be fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:03:37 No.12395128 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395123
to add, my point is life does exist and does create phosphine. it's the only real lead short of sending a probe to look.

as a sidenote they def should talk up the alien angle, it's the reason we've been farting around mars for decades. venus gets no fucking love, and if this tiny circumstantial evidence can convince soneone to send a probe we shouldnt care about the reasons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:05:45 No.12395137 Report

Quoted By: >>12395148 >>12395294

>>12395126
>my net worth
i think you mean 60k savings plus 40k tesla shares

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:07:53 No.12395141 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395115
Earth laws don't apply to Mars

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:08:24 No.12395143 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395121
Have to watch the video to find out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:08:56 No.12395146 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395123
The way the refute vulcanism is flimsy at best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:09:23 No.12395148 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395137
It's actually the other way around

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:10:01 No.12395150 Report

Quoted By: >>12395167 >>12395185 >>12395857

>>12395123
There's a lot of things that can go unexpected when working with one lone sample from a planet millions of km away and figuring out a grandiloquent conclussion from it.

remember that less than 30 years ago scientists were convinced that there was no moon on the water no no no, forbidden to say it, donmt say it, youre wrong and im right bnecause im mr scientist, even tough the lunar landers found water but if you mentioned it you were a conspiracy nut.

mfw i literally known state tier of the art advanced scientifica knowledge (that there was water on the moon) before the mainstream west literally only because im not a slave and i have critical thinking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:10:27 No.12395152 Report

Quoted By: >>12395155 >>12395167 >>12395636

>>12395123
current scientific consensus is that they may have jumped the gun on detecting phosphine
we'll need to wait for more observations

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:12:16 No.12395155 Report

Quoted By: >>12395160

>>12395152
consensus is shit, its evil people telling you what to think, objective rationality is only right wrong once and forever.

a smart caveman could have figured out gravity, you dont need societys permission

the phosphene on venus is clearly wrong, theres no life there timestamp this, use your brain stop pretending as if the laws of physics can be determined by your feelings

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:12:38 No.12395157 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394644
Can't honk if you never fire it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:13:35 No.12395160 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395155
dumb nigger
anyway twelfth order polynomials lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:17:59 No.12395167 Report

Quoted By: >>12395168 >>12395182 >>12395668 >>12395680

>>12395150
>>12395152
Exactly. But we shouldn't go to Venus, we just don't have enough evidence that anything interesting is out there. Money spent on a Venus probe would be better spent on climate science anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:18:52 No.12395168 Report

Quoted By: >>12395171

>>12395167
sorry anon, too late, we're already going

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:22:07 No.12395171 Report

Quoted By: >>12395173

>>12395168
shut the fuck up venus kuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:22:35 No.12395173 Report

Quoted By: >>12395179

>>12395171
we've got to beat the russians

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:26:50 No.12395179 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395173
Russia's days in space are basically done. The country won't even survive this decade.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:27:38 No.12395181 Report

Quoted By: >>12395183

>>12394832
BOR-2 (1969)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:28:06 No.12395182 Report

Quoted By: >>12396030

>>12395167
>Money spent on a Venus probe would be better spent on climate science anyway
Donald Trump is going to win on Dec 14 and there is nothing you can do about it other than dilate.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:28:41 No.12395183 Report

Quoted By: >>12395229

>>12395181
X-23 (1966)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:29:24 No.12395185 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395150
>moon on the water
if you must take drugs please take better ones theyre absolutely destroying you

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 09:49:47 No.12395229 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395183
Fuckdammit, Sean!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 10:08:35 No.12395261 Report

Quoted By: >>12395367

>>12394542
They've run Raptors above 300 bar for minutes at a time

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 10:24:02 No.12395292 Report

Quoted By: >>12395335 >>12395368 >>12395370 >>12396019

>Huh? Now even CASIC, a defence contractor/missile maker and developer of solid rockets, is working on methalox engines. This is the Mingfeng-1 engine, around 10 tons of thrust
https://twitter.com/AJ_FI/status/1332588465704329217

Why is everyone getting in on the methalox game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 10:25:11 No.12395294 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395137
anon do you not know what net worth means

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 10:26:52 No.12395297 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394312
Starlink doesn't have lasers yet. The Starlink team said it's going to be awhile since it's too difficult.
>We did have an exciting flight test earlier this year with prototype space lasers on two Starlink satellites that managed to transmit gigabytes of data. But bringing down the cost of the space lasers and producing a lot of them fast is a really hard problem that the team is still working on.
https://old.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/jybmgn/we_are_the_starlink_team_ask_us_anything/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 10:40:58 No.12395315 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395024
we have d-word pass

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 10:54:22 No.12395335 Report

Quoted By: >>12395347

>>12395292
>Why is everyone getting in on the methalox game?
sooty exhaust is bad optics
we're headed for a clean climate-science based future, anon, and part of that reality involves using only certain fuels because they look less dirty

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 11:00:30 No.12395347 Report

Quoted By: >>12395354

>>12395335
look less dirty or are actually less dirty?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 11:06:02 No.12395354 Report

Quoted By: >>12395588 >>12395597

>>12395347
look less dirty
actually being less dirty is something only smelly nerds want and doesn't really matter
the elimination of soot, visible fumes, smoke in general, or any kind of visible exhaust is the future
the secret to getting what you want is pandering to the midwit

this completely sound logic is also why the SRB is the patrician's choice, because fuck normies

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 11:08:57 No.12395358 Report

Quoted By: >>12395392 >>12395408 >>12395465 >>12395474 >>12396413

>5 years to hop
The absolute state of Europe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 11:10:15 No.12395360 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395003
>>12395009
Great to see incredibly smart people who are able to explain things very simply. This guy needs more views.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 11:14:59 No.12395364 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395112
in contrast to o neill cylinders, terraforming would actually make sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 11:19:00 No.12395367 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394568
>>12395261
fucking nice. The Raptor is such a fucking cool engine. Wonder if they'll ever sell the thing to others? I mean if they really do achieve all their goals its basically going to make most other engines irrelevant.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 11:20:38 No.12395368 Report

Quoted By: >>12395382

>>12395292
it looks cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 11:24:32 No.12395370 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395292
The most plentiful gas there is, seemingly easy to tame now that more and more operators have working engines.
And you have no idea how much of this gas we have to spare as a by-product of drilling for oil, be it by fracking, jacking or deep sea drilling. We're fucking inundated with the shit. And then there's methane from other sources.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 11:34:22 No.12395382 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395368
Chinese rockets already look cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 11:43:06 No.12395392 Report

Quoted By: >>12395401 >>12395404 >>12395408

>>12395358
Are we now shamelessly copying like filthy chinks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 11:47:11 No.12395401 Report

Quoted By: >>12395403

>>12395392
Since when did Arianespace do anything that was original?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 11:48:00 No.12395403 Report

Quoted By: >>12395405

>>12395401
Arianne 5 looks original

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 11:48:06 No.12395404 Report

Quoted By: >>12395868

>>12395392
We're not shameless enough if you ask me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 11:48:26 No.12395405 Report

Quoted By: >>12395451

>>12395403
The tech behind it is anything but.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 11:49:34 No.12395408 Report

Quoted By: >>12395416 >>12395430 >>12396480

>>12395358
>>12395392
I'm not even convinced that it's a good use of resources. In order to be worth it their rocket would have to be better than the F9 in some areas or at least specialize in a niche that it doesn't. Its 2nd stage aside the F9 is pretty optimized and mature at this point so one-upping it is not an easy task.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 11:53:35 No.12395416 Report

Quoted By: >>12395420 >>12395430 >>12396480

>>12395408
Arianespace is practically a welfare project for the various aerospace companies operating in Europe. It's more to keep the companies alive than anything else. Why else would for instance two Norwegian aerospace companies both be delivering solid parts when one of them could have done the same? The answer is because there are two aerospace companies in Norway and they both specialize in solids and hybrids, we do make some pretty badass missiles here.

It's not about good use of resources, it's about keeping the light on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 11:57:07 No.12395420 Report

Quoted By: >>12395426

>>12395416
>it's about keeping the light on
But why didn't they copy SLS then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 11:58:55 No.12395426 Report

Quoted By: >>12395435 >>12395449

>>12395420
>SLS
Why the fuck would they do that? That's the opposite of keeping the light on, that's throwing money down an endless pit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 11:59:59 No.12395430 Report

Quoted By: >>12395433 >>12395436 >>12396480

>>12395408
I mean the merlin is a pretty insane booster engine. Does the ESA even have an engine that could be viable in a reusable rocket? Just look at this shit: https://twitter.com/flightclubio/status/1330954332112449537 . I'm really not sure if any of these oldspace entities can pull it off. SpaceX makes it look easy but it's clearly not.

>>12395416
I get the notion of supporting local industries, and I'm sure that Europe wants to retain its capabilities at least, but at the same time it strikes me as damn near sacrilegious to reduce space to economic support

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 12:01:31 No.12395433 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395430
>it strikes me as damn near sacrilegious to reduce space to economic support
Every single NASA rocket has done it the same way until SpaceX came along. ULA is continuing in the same vein, Blue Origin discovered government pork and is about to grow fat and complacent on BE-4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 12:02:07 No.12395435 Report

Quoted By: >>12395437

>>12395426
still cheaper than the staurn v

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 12:02:19 No.12395436 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395430
bigger image

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 12:03:29 No.12395437 Report

Quoted By: >>12395449 >>12395460 >>12395488

>>12395435
Are you so sure about that? Saturn V flew many times and produced results.
SLS is probably not flying until fucking 2030 if it's flying at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 12:10:18 No.12395449 Report

Quoted By: >>12395453

>>12395426
>Why the fuck would they do that?
>>12395437
>not flying until fucking 2030 if it's flying at all

If you want a milk cow, the SLS is the perfect funding device. It doesn't even need to fly. Which is good, since cows can't fly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 12:11:21 No.12395451 Report

Quoted By: >>12395453

>>12395405
How so? I'm completely unfamiliar with Ariane's development

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 12:13:17 No.12395453 Report

Quoted By: >>12395465 >>12396205

>>12395449
Milking a cow is not the same as keeping the light on. SLS is a propaganda device more than it's a rocket.

>>12395451
Solid boosters and hydromeme sustainer ring a bell? That's shittle tech. "Le americains are doing ze hydroloxe, oui? Ve must copy zem immediatemon!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 12:19:08 No.12395460 Report

Quoted By: >>12395484

>>12395437
>SLS is probably not flying until fucking 2030
Next year, Artemis 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G9h5MQ9lAU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 12:22:34 No.12395465 Report

Quoted By: >>12395467

>>12395453
I thought you meant the actual technology, not the broad concepts. You can hardly say using two SRB's is copying another rocket that's also used two SRB's before. It's like >>12395358, at some point you have to admit that there are only so many ways of doing things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 12:24:48 No.12395467 Report

Quoted By: >>12395505 >>12395669

>>12395465
That F9 copy shit is also using "broad concepts" if we're going down that road, because it's not using SpaceX tech or software.
But it is trying to recreate what SpaceX did with F9 just like Arianespace did with hydromeme and boosters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 12:32:05 No.12395474 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395358
BRuh wtF
it took SpaceX less than a year to hop Starhopper, and another year to hop Starship SN5

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 12:36:22 No.12395484 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395460

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 12:38:01 No.12395488 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395437
>results
We learned more through r&d than we did by physically setting foot upon the moon. Man walking on the moon was just the cherry on top.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 12:44:28 No.12395505 Report

Quoted By: >>12395557 >>12395669

>>12395467
>That F9 copy shit is also using "broad concepts" if we're going down that road
Well no shit, that's how you land first stages, any powered booster landing is going to look like it's copying F9. But that's what I mean, there's not many other ways you can do it. Don't get me wrong, I'm no ESA apologist but all reusable rockets are going down that path, because it works. With all due credits to SpaceX, it seems odd to me to go ''Bruh they're just copying SpaceX'' every time a new reusable concept appears.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 12:56:13 No.12395529 Report

Quoted By: >>12395539 >>12396104

... is the starhopper coming to kill me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 12:59:04 No.12395539 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395529
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 13:05:13 No.12395552 Report

Quoted By: >>12395565 >>12395617 >>12395672 >>12395687 >>12395714

So my uncle works at the FAA and he tells me no way they permit sn8 to fly unless they add more safety.
That's why there hasn't been a NOTAM yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 13:07:15 No.12395557 Report

Quoted By: >>12395656

>>12395505
Followers don't get to be offended when they're said to be copying the leader, because they are. Deal with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 13:08:23 No.12395563 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395031
what if he drops a rocket on your house? you know he lurks here and i don't think he'll be happy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 13:09:49 No.12395565 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395552
No he doesn't, either that or he's too low on the social ladder to know what's what

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 13:11:00 No.12395570 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395070
not really

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 13:12:29 No.12395573 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395099
nope, not even close

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 13:19:04 No.12395588 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395354
they actually are less dirty because they leave less soot in the engines, which is bad for reusability anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 13:22:15 No.12395597 Report

Quoted By: >>12395608

>>12395354
>the secret to getting what you want is pandering to the midwit
Ironic coming from a midwit post

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 13:24:32 No.12395602 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394836
> snatch Chinese birds out of the sky and return them to Earth

Good thing they have their own X-37B now

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 13:28:23 No.12395606 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394028
> there's one real tragedy of the BLM movement
Yeah it's definitely not the random lynching of people in the street.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 13:30:16 No.12395608 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395597
>not being able to spot a shitpost
ngmi

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 13:35:52 No.12395617 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395552
> why would someone do that, just go on the internet and tell lies?
They will just strap some safety to the fairing anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 13:45:00 No.12395636 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395152
Modern academia is truly fucked. They all clamber for attention and grants like drug addled hobos and fuck up constantly by doing so. Then they wonder why no one respects them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 13:56:29 No.12395656 Report

Quoted By: >>12395918

>>12395557
Like I said I'm not defending ESA nor am I saying their plans or original. I just don't see why one would act surprised at the next generation of reusables all looking the same

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 13:58:58 No.12395663 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395086
2^2 = 4
3^2 = 9
4^2 = 16
You must know mathematics to post here. Volume is area of the base times height.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 14:00:32 No.12395668 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395167
We should launch people like you on surplus minutemen so you can check the climate first hand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 14:01:41 No.12395669 Report

Quoted By: >>12395675

>>12395467
>>12395505
gettin some major déjà vu with these two posts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 14:02:44 No.12395672 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395552
>my uncle at the FAA just flew over my house

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 14:02:59 No.12395675 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395669
Welcome to 4chan, every post is a repost of a repost of a repost of a repost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 14:04:26 No.12395680 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395167
*climate studies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 14:06:54 No.12395687 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395552
Elon is actually my daddy, and he told that you're a massive fucking nigger who should neck himself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 14:19:57 No.12395714 Report

Quoted By: >>12396058

>>12395552
just cover the whole thin in osha lights and launch at night for dramatic effect

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 14:20:32 No.12395717 Report

Quoted By: >>12395736 >>12395792

???? got in the moon orbit.

????11?28?20?58?,??????????112??????,?????400???????3000??????,?17???,????????????????????,?????????????,?????????

???????????????????????????????????????,??“??”??,?????????????????,??????????

??????????????????2?????,?????????,???????????????????,??????????????????????????,?????????,???????????????

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 14:25:48 No.12395736 Report

Quoted By: >>12395849

>>12395717
source: just trust us, capitalist

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 14:27:10 No.12395741 Report

Quoted By:

Follow the Science

https://youtu.be/Ta0bnutAVLc

.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 14:42:29 No.12395767 Report

Quoted By: >>12395841 >>12395846

>>12395070

IA's channel has many problems but this post is incredibly pathetic.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 14:46:16 No.12395775 Report

Quoted By: >>12395795

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 14:54:59 No.12395792 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395717
ok chang

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 14:55:15 No.12395795 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395775
TRASH

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 15:16:27 No.12395841 Report

Quoted By: >>12396187

>>12395767
Ok isaac

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 15:19:15 No.12395846 Report

Quoted By: >>12396187

>>12395767
Fatty McFatFat :)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 15:20:15 No.12395849 Report

Quoted By: >>12395856 >>12396563

>>12395736
You do realize there's fucking thousands of amateur sat watchers across the planet? They find fucking spy satellites.
American cope regarding China is hilarious to watch. You cunts are laughably insecure and think no one sees through it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 15:20:25 No.12395850 Report

Quoted By: >>12395863

I noticed this diagram of a Super Heavy with what appear to be Falcon legs in the newest NSF video. Has anyone ever taken higher-res pictures of this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 15:23:28 No.12395856 Report

Quoted By: >>12395862 >>12395909

>>12395849
DIE DIE DIE DIE LEAVE SFG NO ONE WANT YOU CHINKY GET OUT GET OUT KILL KILL KILL GET THE BUG SPRAY FUCK

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 15:23:54 No.12395857 Report

Quoted By: >>12395879

>>12395150
> moon on the water
> i literally known state tier of the art advanced scientifica knowledge
> mfw (with no image reaction)
double digits as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 15:24:57 No.12395862 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395856
Great comeback mate. Really reacting well to being called out as insecure.
I'm whiter than you'll ever be little one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 15:25:01 No.12395863 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395850
design was thrown out ages ago

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 15:27:10 No.12395868 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395404
This. A Chinese person likened copying western tech to learning the piano. You start by playing other peoples' music to develop skill before making your own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 15:30:47 No.12395873 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395106
>>12395109
https://youtu.be/mPTCq3LiZSE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 15:34:13 No.12395879 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395857
and yet, smarter than you

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 15:48:38 No.12395908 Report

Quoted By: >>12395920 >>12395922 >>12395934

current Starship statuses

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 15:48:42 No.12395909 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395856
Nobody should be giving faggy larpers this much attention anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 15:51:19 No.12395918 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395656
Who's surprised?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 15:51:51 No.12395920 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395908
ugh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 15:52:18 No.12395922 Report

Quoted By: >>12395930 >>12395954

>>12395908
lmao, starshit will never fly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 15:56:13 No.12395930 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395922
we're calling it shitstar now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 15:57:46 No.12395934 Report

Quoted By: >>12395935 >>12395960

>>12395908
i have a deep hatred for infographics. i think it's because they make dumb people feel smart

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 15:59:05 No.12395935 Report

Quoted By: >>12395942

>>12395934
>picture with words, Grug angered

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:00:54 No.12395942 Report

Quoted By: >>12395951

>>12395935
i'm sorry retard, i forgot to translate it for you. i have a deep hatred for pictures with words. i think it's because they make dumb people (like you) feel smart

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:01:47 No.12395944 Report

Quoted By: >>12395972 >>12396039

Chinese rockets will never carry a living human being beyond LEO lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:05:09 No.12395951 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395942
>enraged, Grug shouts at the picture and the accompanying words, his guttural cry echoing off the cave walls and out into the prehistoric night

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:05:51 No.12395953 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395103
how can one thunderous f00t be so based bros? massive smackdown on venus peenuses. mars is the way, and even phillip mason knows that

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:06:11 No.12395954 Report

Quoted By: >>12395958

>>12395922
>but sls will guise

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:09:01 No.12395958 Report

Quoted By: >>12395961 >>12395975

>>12395954
Yah, pretty much. There's nothing that can slow SLS down at this point, it has massive momentum. You must be a fool to deny

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:09:32 No.12395960 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395934
It's not meant to make you feel smart. It's supposed to be an easy way to see information

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:10:04 No.12395961 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395958
>it has massive momentum
only a decade late, and several times over the budget

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:10:27 No.12395963 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394369
Hydrogen is underperforming in D-IV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:13:45 No.12395972 Report

Quoted By: >>12395976 >>12395978 >>12395985

>>12395944
>"This will be the end of China accession", says increasingly nervous neocon for the seventh time this year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:13:54 No.12395974 Report

Quoted By: >>12396391

>>12394322
even worse, the Angara 5 test launch is now NLT Nov 11. Which means Putin took notice, and now heads will roll if there are any more delays.

Russia is suffering these days, what with five Glonass navsats failing at once, and only able to launch two replacements this year.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:15:40 No.12395975 Report

Quoted By: >>12395982 >>12396024

>>12395958
>There's nothing that can slow SLS down at this point
>Boeing, NASA getting ready for SLS Core Stage Green Run campaign ahead of Stennis arrival
>December 14, 2019

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:17:00 No.12395976 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395972
cringe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:17:47 No.12395978 Report

Quoted By: >>12395994 >>12396036

>>12395972
>>12395972
>"This will be the beginning of China accession", says increasingly nervous larping chicom as Starship flies over his house

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:18:36 No.12395981 Report

Quoted By: >>12395989 >>12395996

>>12393984
Why don't they give actual wings to the starship so that it can glide back down instead of doing that stupid maneuver that will never work

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:18:44 No.12395982 Report

Quoted By: >>12395986 >>12396025 >>12396285

>>12395975
Hello SpaceX stan, I hope you will enjoy what I like to call our "November surprise"

Your precious SN8 is doomed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:19:54 No.12395985 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395972
isnt 4chan banned in china because of porn? someone post the copypasta

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:19:59 No.12395986 Report

Quoted By: >>12395993

>>12395982
>November surprise
Oh, I know this one! It's when you miss the date after slipping for the fourth time lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:20:58 No.12395989 Report

Quoted By: >>12395998

>>12395981
it already has worked on mini starship, where have you been

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:21:47 No.12395993 Report

Quoted By: >>12395999 >>12396007

>>12395986
>where you blow raptor innards out your ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:21:56 No.12395994 Report

Quoted By: >>12396003 >>12396007

>>12395978
Starship don't matter in the long run. What matter is a nation industrial capacity and technical skills, both which are collapsing in the land of the """"free"""" for quite a while and constantly increasing amongst the chinamen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:22:31 No.12395996 Report

Quoted By: >>12396005 >>12396016

>>12395981
because wings weigh a lot, and if you can do that kind of maneuver, which most likely will work since they've had a bit of practice with Falcon 9

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:23:24 No.12395998 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395989
What mini starship?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:23:33 No.12395999 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395993
>not-up-to-date information
same as it ever was

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:24:41 No.12396003 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395994
dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. asian american, please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:25:03 No.12396005 Report

Quoted By: >>12396010

>>12395996
>because wings weigh a lot
Ok let me redesign this airbus a380
I'll save on weight by removing the wings

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:25:37 No.12396007 Report

Quoted By: >>12396014 >>12396046

>>12395993
It sure is nice being able to fire and replace engines in testing instead of having to stop all work for two years because you have a stuck valve in a museum piece that costs as much as an F35 lmao
>>12395994
>Starship don't matter in the long run
mega chicope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:27:07 No.12396010 Report

Quoted By: >>12396023 >>12396029

>>12396005
airbus a380 is an airplane, starship is not this really isn't that complicated

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:28:09 No.12396014 Report

Quoted By: >>12396027 >>12396028

>>12396007
>two years development in boca chica
>nothing to show for
>no 20km hops
>no booster
>no water landings
>shortfall of gravitas missing in action
yeah, good luck SpaceX stan, you'll need it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:28:33 No.12396016 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395996
Not just the wings but all the shit that goes with a horizontal landing. Much more dry mass efficient to do a tail landing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:29:24 No.12396019 Report

Quoted By: >>12396156

>>12395292
I know, right? The crazy thing is that methane was never seriously looked at in the entire history of the Space Age. If you read "Ignition!", they researched literally every other possible rocket fuel/oxidizer combination, but plain-old methane is never mentioned. And suddenly everybody is trying it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:30:22 No.12396023 Report

Quoted By: >>12396034

>>12396010
a380 is not a fucking airplane, it's a capsule. retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:30:24 No.12396024 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395975
>There's nothing that can slow SLS down at this point
can't slow down something that's not moving

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:30:23 No.12396025 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395982
>stan
Use English words or get the fuck out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:30:47 No.12396027 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396014
>nothing to show for
other than 10 test articles but let's ignore those :^)
>no water landings
???
Thank god it's only taken 2 years, imagine taking a decade to build one tank

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:30:50 No.12396028 Report

Quoted By: >>12396033

>>12396014
>9 years of development
>20 billion dollars of funding
>hasn't even fired its engines

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:31:13 No.12396029 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396010
Starship is absolutely a plane, even the X-plane flight sim guy admitted it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:31:37 No.12396030 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395182
take your meds schizo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:32:20 No.12396033 Report

Quoted By: >>12396038 >>12396045

>>12396028
wrong, all of those engines flew on shuttle. who's the dumbass now? i'll give you a hint. you ;)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:32:48 No.12396034 Report

Quoted By: >>12396516

>>12396023
look at that magnificent capsule :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:33:11 No.12396036 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395978
What the fuck are you talking about?
Chinas accession began in the 70's

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:33:51 No.12396038 Report

Quoted By: >>12396051

>>12396033
Imagine using museum articles to boost your shitty excuse of a rocket

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:34:01 No.12396039 Report

Quoted By: >>12396044

>>12395944
indeed, they will only carry Chinese

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:34:50 No.12396044 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396039
bigot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:34:51 No.12396045 Report

Quoted By: >>12396057

>>12396033
>I've never fucked my wife, but her boyfriend did and that's just as good, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:35:12 No.12396046 Report

Quoted By: >>12396049 >>12396069

>>12396007
Starship won't matter for the same reason the Little Willie and Wright Flyer didn't. It is a crux of technical skill and engineering, but it will be quickly replaced by better iterations within a decade of being first introduced because of its experimental nature. What matter is the capacity to remain advancing the overall development loop to create improved designs, which depend on the industrial and educational health of the country.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:36:07 No.12396049 Report

Quoted By: >>12396062

>>12396046
I prefer making fun of the SLS guy, at least he doesn't actually believe it. This is actual cope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:36:14 No.12396051 Report

Quoted By: >>12396060

>>12396038
At least SMME actually works, unlike honking raptor that shids molten turbopump. Really nasty, and disrespectful

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:37:30 No.12396057 Report

Quoted By: >>12396064

>>12396045
You should keep that to yourself, it's embarrassing to others who have to read your fantasies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:37:57 No.12396058 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395714
>discoship
I can get behind that. What song would it play?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:38:41 No.12396060 Report

Quoted By: >>12396065

>>12396051
the RS-25 first fired 40 years ago, and it took over a decade to develop

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:39:44 No.12396062 Report

Quoted By: >>12396071

>>12396049
>This is actual cope.
Ask me again in 50 years and let's see who is coping

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:40:07 No.12396064 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396057
Sorry rocket cuck, your engines are old and busted. You will never have the satisfaction of blowing out her O ring seals for the first time and her valves clam up at the sight of you. It will never be the same again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:40:26 No.12396065 Report

Quoted By: >>12396076 >>12396079

>>12396060
Yes, tried and true engine. Still the king of all rocket engines. Most efficient rocket engine ever made and ever will be

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:42:11 No.12396069 Report

Quoted By: >>12396085

>>12396046
I ge twhat you mean, but Starship isn't Wright Flyer
Starship is more like Boeing 707

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:42:19 No.12396071 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396062
>in 50 years
During the interregnum lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:44:03 No.12396076 Report

Quoted By: >>12396078 >>12396084

>>12396065
It also costs 64 million dollars, which is more that a full falcon heavy when reused.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:45:03 No.12396078 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396076
*146 million

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:45:06 No.12396079 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396065
>tried and true engine
Can't try it though
>Most efficient rocket engine ever made
That's the RL10 for chem rockets and some who xenon thruster overall but sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:46:12 No.12396084 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396076
>1 engine costs as much as three rockets stuck together
In what realm can other companies even compete

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:47:00 No.12396085 Report

Quoted By: >>12396095 >>12396096 >>12396189 >>12396275

>>12396069
>Starship is more like Boeing 707
Not really. Starship is build on highly untested tech and reliant on tapping on a market that no one knows if it actually exists to actually make its money back. Beyond that, I think Musk himself said that Starship is meant to be phased out relatively fast for what is basically a bigger, 'roided up version once it gets going.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:49:30 No.12396094 Report

Quoted By: >>12396097 >>12396103 >>12396111

the cope in here from spacex stans really amazes me. they all crawl out of the woodwork when someone doesnt blindly suck starship cock. really embarrassing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:49:39 No.12396095 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396085
so it's a 737 MAX

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:50:11 No.12396096 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396085
>tapping on a market that no one knows if it actually exists
The virgin chicom hedger. "This is barely a start, just the wright flyer... but maybe it'll be too much!" You can't decide whether it's too little or too much but you're sure you're unsure. Pitiful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:50:45 No.12396097 Report

Quoted By: >>12396115

>>12396094
It's nice that your shitposts all contain the same calling card for easy identification. Happy fishing fren.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:51:15 No.12396102 Report

Quoted By:

Do you guys think Launcher will win small launch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:51:17 No.12396103 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396094
I didn't give you permission to stop posting SLS cope, fucktoy

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:51:16 No.12396104 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395529
No. He is the ultimate life form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:53:05 No.12396111 Report

Quoted By: >>12396119

>>12396094
Why don't you post the "reminder that SLS will reach orbit before starship" again? That'll get them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:53:55 No.12396115 Report

Quoted By: >>12396120 >>12396121

>>12396097
A wild Texas Tank Watcher crawls out of the wood work! Hello, tell me, is it venting as we speak haha

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:54:55 No.12396118 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:54:57 No.12396119 Report

Quoted By: >>12396127 >>12396239 >>12396255 >>12396310 >>12396314 >>12396454 >>12396533

>>12396111
that's a different anon, i'm against pedo/anime-posting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:55:41 No.12396120 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396115
I'm venting as I type.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:56:24 No.12396121 Report

Quoted By: >>12396123

>>12396115
Welcome, fellow Michoud Tank Watchers!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 16:58:15 No.12396123 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396121
Kek

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 17:00:22 No.12396127 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396119
Normally I'd be calling you out as pic related, but that no anime stance is based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 17:01:21 No.12396132 Report

Quoted By: >>12396161 >>12396235

I wish SLS had some more positive niches, like how ULA can differentiate from SpaceX

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 17:07:20 No.12396143 Report

Quoted By: >>12396148

>Hard in the Rocket Fuel
>Orbital Hoe Depot
>The Final Countdown (John King cover)
>Gravity of My Balls
>Aerogel (extra explicit)
>Stop! Rocket Time!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 17:08:52 No.12396148 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396143
>John King
Meant Jack King

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 17:13:56 No.12396156 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396019
that's super interesting. I've read halfway through Ignition, recently finished chapter on peroxide. they must have messed with methane, but were blinded performance of hydrogen or sonething, right? must not have been notable

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 17:13:59 No.12396157 Report

Quoted By: >>12396240

Space planes are the future
Down with the rocket lobby!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 17:16:40 No.12396161 Report

Quoted By: >>12396164

>>12396132
Technically it still does. Out of the ultra heavy rockets, it's the farthest along its development. The only thing standing in its way is that the contractors tasked in building it are motivated to take as long as possible to finish it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 17:18:38 No.12396164 Report

Quoted By: >>12396169 >>12396171

>>12396161
>its niche is that it can launch tomorrow
>editor's note: it cannot launch tomorrow

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 17:20:43 No.12396169 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396164

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 17:21:02 No.12396171 Report

Quoted By: >>12396176

>>12396164
it sucks. we didnt even need a green run. Jim entertained the idea skipping it altogether. they could've just launched Artemis-1 this year, it's unmanned anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 17:24:11 No.12396176 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396171
That would've been a cool way to end a lame year

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 17:30:55 No.12396187 Report

Quoted By: >>12396203

>>12395841
>>12395846

Predictable. Seriously, when did /sfg/ became /v/ lite with so much inane bullshit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 17:31:40 No.12396189 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396085
it's not a perfect analogy, but I don't think it's a bad one
>build on highly untested tech
turbofans weren't exactly untested, but they sure were barely off the drawing board
before it, they were still making planes with piston engines
>reliant on tapping on a market that no one knows if it actually exists
there wasn't really market for millions of passengers in 1950's either
most airports were not airports, but rather airfields at the time
and it took like 10 years until civilian market exceeded military contracts
>Beyond that, I think Musk himself said that Starship is meant to be phased out relatively fast for what is basically a bigger, 'roided up version once it gets going.
something more like 747, one could say

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 17:43:22 No.12396203 Report

Quoted By: >>12396211 >>12396214

>>12396187
just make one interesting episode you piece of shit, and stop saying you were in the army. Tell you what, make an episode on SLS vs STARSHIP and we might forgive you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 17:43:28 No.12396205 Report

Quoted By: >>12396485 >>12396541

>>12395453
>"Le americains are doing ze hydroloxe, oui? Ve must copy zem immediatemon!"
it's kinda amazing how many people copied the shuttle's flawed approach. Fortunately I think the "massive hydromeme 1st stage" is finally dead in the water

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 17:46:38 No.12396211 Report

Quoted By: >>12396267 >>12397420

>>12396203

Cool. Am I supposed to start calling you a tranny now so I can also assume you are someone that you aren't?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 17:48:14 No.12396214 Report

Quoted By: >>12396242 >>12396248 >>12396254

>>12396203
>wishing the evil of Isaac talking about modern rocketry on the world
He cucked himself into the "it will happen even if nothing ever happens" mentality, he doesn't have any perspective. Unironically his most watchable videos focus on planetary science.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 17:54:48 No.12396221 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395096
I don't get that either. How is that interesting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:01:26 No.12396235 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396132
pretty sure they can put that gigantic orange piece of shit in orbit. Would be pretty hilarious having a few of those things just floating around

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:03:08 No.12396239 Report

Quoted By: >>12396244

>>12396119
anybody have the reminder?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:03:39 No.12396240 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396157
>imagine if NASP got actually built and then some Karen shoots it down upon seeing this movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:04:21 No.12396242 Report

Quoted By: >>12396248

>>12396214
he has like 20 videos on mars colonization and not once does he mention starship or even SLS or reusability in general, he just mentions some obscure advocacy groups that'll never do anything

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:05:01 No.12396244 Report

Quoted By: >>12396245 >>12396249

>>12396239
This one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:06:05 No.12396245 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396244
yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:07:58 No.12396248 Report

Quoted By: >>12396252 >>12397423

>>12396214
>>12396242

His detachment from reality or anyone from the actual field is what makes Event Horizon a much superior channel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:09:34 No.12396249 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396244
Transexual Janitors are a very progressive move from 4chan administrators

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:12:47 No.12396252 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396248
John Michael Godier's channel is nice as well. It's more of an equivalent to IA but the topics aren't spastic like Awthur's. And there seems to be a lot more focus on actual science and its implications for the future (as opposed to 'hey guys what if we had unlimited energy and a replicator' )

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:13:42 No.12396254 Report

Quoted By: >>12396259 >>12396262 >>12396323

>>12396214
>"it will happen even if nothing ever happens" mentality
I don't watch alot of his videos, but what is that mentality exactly?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:13:45 No.12396255 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396119

So how much do you seethe by just refreshing the page?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:16:16 No.12396259 Report

Quoted By: >>12396276 >>12396293

>>12396254
Different anon, but I believe what he meant by that is that Arthur implies that humans are "obviously" going to have huge trade networks out to Neptune and other star systems and freighters and o'neill cylinders like star trek enterprise in the future and it's a 100% guarantee

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:16:41 No.12396262 Report

Quoted By: >>12396293

>>12396254

Not that poster but my main problem with IA is that he makes wild assumptions on how society will organize or how people will act and then he just keeps building on top of a potential flawed base. Some episodes are good but if the entire premise of his episode is faulty due to something silly at the start then the rest of the 30 minutes is just a waste of time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:18:53 No.12396267 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396211
Well, it's a free country, but that doesn't mean I have to accept you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:24:21 No.12396275 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396085
the market starship is tapping into is literally the current market, at a lower operational cost. it doesnt need massive payloads to pay for itself. it can do everything falcon 9 / heavy / dragon can do but fully reusable with lower overhead. it would be practical just for that. it doesnt need new markets. but it will create them

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:24:29 No.12396276 Report

Quoted By: >>12396287 >>12396299

>>12396259

One of his assumptions that annoy me the most and is a premise to a bunch of his episodes is that interstellar colonization is a given and that governments will want to promote it with seeder ships or whatnot. If FTL communications and transport truly won't ever be achievable then there is literally zero incentive for governments to expand to other stars because basically what you are doing is creating potentially deadly rivals due to the inability to command and control the colonies. It will be just like what happened to Europe but on fucking steroids since you can never tell if one of the colonies went super bad and are sending near light speed missiles your way. I believe a case for strictly controlled interstellar travel to be much more believable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:28:43 No.12396285 Report

Quoted By: >>12396289

>>12395982
>surprise
Also, it can't be a November surprise when it inevitably gets pushed back to December.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:29:36 No.12396287 Report

Quoted By: >>12396295

>>12396276
uncontrolled could work if you dont mind losing mother colonies once in awhile. i guess the goal would be to have net gain, and losing some wont be an issue

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:30:38 No.12396289 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396285
Oh it'll be pushed back hahaha
Q2 2021 BUDDY BOY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:31:47 No.12396293 Report

Quoted By: >>12396303 >>12396304 >>12396311

>>12396259
>>12396262
Seems lame. I know that most people are interested in a sci-fi future in space, but spaceflight has a significant starting problem. There needs to be more talk in how to start a space economy rather than what would a developed space economy with unlimited resources look like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:33:12 No.12396295 Report

Quoted By: >>12396302

>>12396287

It what universe would any sort of government think that potentially sacrificing their home capital planet to be a worthy trade? Do you not see the lengths that the US and China go for national security?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:34:39 No.12396299 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396276
>basically what you are doing is creating potentially deadly rivals due to the inability to command and control the colonies
Such a government could go with the 1984 route, and make the colony culture such that a revolt against Earth is unthinkably evil. Undoing it would be difficult because the colonists would have no way to directly verify the information they have on Earth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:35:35 No.12396302 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396295
i dont think ((they)) have a choice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:36:26 No.12396303 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396293
Well it would start with a prototype mining probe (think comet toucher but bigger)
And experiment with isru propellant on the same or another probe. I guess we could start at Phobos or Deimos

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:36:33 No.12396304 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396293
You could probably make millions by writing a book similar to John Locke or Thomas Paine’s common sense or something, but aimed at the government and economic structure of future Mars colonists. They might be inspired by your thinking... Although you might also pull a van gogh and write all your shit and die penny-less only for your works to get rediscovered one hundred years from now

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:37:50 No.12396310 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396119
you're on the wrong website then buddy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:38:29 No.12396311 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396293
Check out Spacefund and people like Rick Tumlinson. Him and those of similar mind have been working at the starting problem for decades. Traction is building recently however

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:40:29 No.12396314 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396119

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:43:35 No.12396323 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396254
Although others elaborated it somewhat already, the other thing is he just doesn't care how long it takes, favoring the BO "do it slow and 'right' by never ever accepting any perceived risk" approach.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:52:55 No.12396340 Report

Quoted By: >>12396362

If the Sentinel-6 can eventually map the ocean floor down to mm accuracy, could we find thousands of shipwrecks and crashed planes?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 18:54:05 No.12396342 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395070
Imagine being this much of a realism autist you can't appreciate some good science fiction/fantasy

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:01:24 No.12396362 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396340

>could we find thousands of shipwrecks and crashed planes?

With that accuracy? Yeah. Maybe we can finaly find MH-370, get the boxes and figure out what happend.

Speaking of planes, could they be outfitted with Starlink dishes for broadband, fast onboard wifi? It could also serve as some sort of tracking system so that planes (at least the big ones) can never disappear again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:15:44 No.12396391 Report

Quoted By:

>>12394366

After the Soviet Union collapsed, Lockheed-Martin went to the former Soviet republics to see what companies over there had technology that they could use and in return, helped fund many projects and/or setup joint ventures.

Examples are buying flightdata of the Yak-141 from Yakolev design bureau to aid them with the development of their X-35 wich has become the F-35, buying RD-180 engines for their Atlas-V's and as mentioned, ILS to help the Russians with commercial uses of Proton and future Angara launches.

>>12395974

I did not expect the launch date to be pushed back again. For a long time, end of November/early December was seemingly set in stone but not mid December.

>what with five Glonass navsats failing at once,

Do you have a source for that? I find that hard to believe to be quite honest with you.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:17:09 No.12396392 Report

Quoted By: >>12396404 >>12396411

Holy fucking shit let’s go recover it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:21:05 No.12396404 Report

Quoted By: >>12396415 >>12396421

>>12396392
wakka wakka wakka

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:23:54 No.12396411 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396392
>let’s go recover it
ayy lmao

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:24:13 No.12396413 Report

Quoted By: >>12396422

>>12395358
This is the ultimate proof that "job security in government subsidized positions" needs to be vibe-checked every so often by private industry.

The last thing in rocketry we needed is the same old shit being pushed as "mind-blowingly awesome" to a dwindling public interest like in so many other fields (I'M LOOKING AT YOU, FUNDAMENTAL PHYSICS!).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:24:30 No.12396415 Report

Quoted By: >>12396420

>>12396404
What actually are the recovery capabilities of Starship?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:25:37 No.12396420 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396415
100 tons downmass

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:26:26 No.12396421 Report

Quoted By: >>12396424

>>12396404
It's a centaur stage I believe. We could go capture it. There is only one other example of a rocket stage returning to Earth; Apollo 12's upper stage. Launched in 69' and burned up in Earth's atmosphere in 2002

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:27:39 No.12396422 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396413
Really it's proof that government subsidized positions should all be eliminated, along with much of the third world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:29:16 No.12396424 Report

Quoted By: >>12396434

>>12396421
Why isn't there a universal stage (like centaur) that carries satellites to their destination and saves enough fuel for an Earth return? Would it cost too much fuel or dv? I'm imagining a network of kick stages and tugs that can be refueled in Earth orbit and taken back via starship for inspection

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:32:30 No.12396434 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396424
that was one of the main point of the shuttle, to bring things to space and bring them to back to earth if need be. There where plans to bring back the hubble and put it in a museum before the shuttle program was shutdown I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:36:53 No.12396451 Report

Quoted By: >>12396456 >>12396459 >>12396465

I'm bored. What are some essential Martian anime? inb4 anime is shit. Of course it's shit but I'm that bored.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:38:03 No.12396454 Report

Quoted By: >>12396692

>>12396119
Based. Animefags are wretched man children who unironically get upset that people here want see spaceflight related images instead of their autistic Jap cartoon spam, despite a whole board dedicated to that very subject. They're enabled by a faggot moderator and they pretend like fellating him for censoring people who just want them to stop shit posting means anything.

In before:
>User was banned for this post
>YUSSSS SLAY!!! That bad man insulted my cartoons1111!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:39:05 No.12396456 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396451
>I'm bored.
Kill yourself, for fun of course, not just because you're a faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:39:35 No.12396459 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396451
My Little Belter Can't Be This Cute

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:41:51 No.12396465 Report

Quoted By: >>12396481

>>12396451
Rocket Girls is trash but has anime tiddies and tries for some kind of realism in the technical aspects of spaceflight.
Planetes is a must, in fact I should rewatch it soon too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:46:29 No.12396480 Report

Quoted By: >>12396569

>>12395408
>>12395416
>>12395430
all you need to do to beat the Falcon 9 is not be limited by road transportation size limits

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:46:32 No.12396481 Report

Quoted By: >>12396486 >>12396487 >>12396529

>>12396465
Neither of those have anything to do with Mars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:47:49 No.12396485 Report

Quoted By: >>12396573

>>12396205
>Fortunately I think the "massive hydromeme 1st stage" is finally dead in the water
He says, as they're hyping "THE MOST POWERFUL ROCKET EVER BUILT" which is Yet Another SRBs bolted onto a hydromeme sustainer stage.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:48:37 No.12396486 Report

Quoted By: >>12396520

>>12396481
I don't think there are anime about mars, just space in general.
Speaking of, did this ever release? Or did covid kill it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:48:51 No.12396487 Report

Quoted By: >>12396493

>>12396481
Oh. Well then Cowboy Bebop I guess, Spike is from Mars. I dunno, Trigun? Not Mars but it's on a desert shithole planet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:51:09 No.12396493 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396487
I can think of a few Mars related ones but only Cowboy Bebop and Aldnoah Zero are any good.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 19:59:49 No.12396516 Report

Quoted By: >>12396543 >>12396584 >>12396603

>>12396034
here you go, I've highlighted the portion of this vehicle that is a capsule

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:01:33 No.12396520 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396486
In production. Anime movies takes years to make, it's not some weekly trash show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:03:55 No.12396529 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396481
Mars Daybreak - you'll hate it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:04:48 No.12396533 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396119

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:07:34 No.12396541 Report

Quoted By: >>12396573

>>12396205
there are at least three rockets either flying or on the drawing board to fly "soon(tm)" that are hydrolox sustainer cores surrounded by either solids or kerolox

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:07:53 No.12396543 Report

Quoted By: >>12396547 >>12396584

>>12396516
The cockpit is unable to detach from the rest of the craft, therefor it is not a capsule, but a part of the plane

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:08:27 No.12396547 Report

Quoted By: >>12396553 >>12396584

>>12396543
>he is unaware

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:09:40 No.12396553 Report

Quoted By: >>12396584

>>12396547
It can detach, but not without compromising it's ability to be a capsule

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:11:21 No.12396558 Report

Quoted By: >>12396568 >>12396579

>Go for stage-sep, flight 800

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:12:30 No.12396563 Report

Quoted By:

>>12395849
>cunts
not sure if white aussie or chink aussie, but the amount of projection here is hilarious

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:13:05 No.12396568 Report

Quoted By: >>12396576

>>12396558
TWA 800?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:13:08 No.12396569 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396480
Meaning it’s max diameter would have to be 4.3~ meters

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:14:48 No.12396573 Report

Quoted By: >>12396589

>>12396485
"dead in the water" as in the idea itself is out of-

>>12396541
>there are at least three rockets either flying or on the drawing board to fly "soon(tm)" that are hydrolox sustainer cores surrounded by either solids or kerolox
Oh. Well fuck me nevermind.

But WHY? Do other countries have SLS-like situations where they've built up infrastructure/industry around chunky hydrogen boosters and thus are determined to make more of them not for performance reasons but in order to keep the gravy train going?

Maybe I should be more appreciative of ULA and their vulcan. Oldspace going methalox is probably a miracle in and of itself.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:15:14 No.12396576 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396568
Yep

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:16:23 No.12396579 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396558

The center fuel tank exploding will do that too, no need for conspiracy-tier schizo inane babble when the official version of events are much more plausible.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:16:58 No.12396581 Report

Quoted By: >>12396586

when do you guys predict we'll see super heavy begin testing? Pic not really related.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:17:29 No.12396584 Report

Quoted By: >>12396589

>>12396516
>>12396553
>>12396543
>>12396547
> I can not view anything except in the limited terminology that has already been used to express those things. Any innovation must fit within my definitions.
Starship is a new animal, kids. Bickering over which inaccurate term to use to describe it will only make you both look like dummies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:17:44 No.12396586 Report

Quoted By: >>12396592 >>12396827

>>12396581
could...could this work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:18:53 No.12396589 Report

Quoted By: >>12396592 >>12396597

>>12396573
four rockets, I think
Ariane 5, Ariane 6, SLS, Long March 5
Delta IV medium only recently died,
>>12396584
we decided that Starship was a rocket ship earlier
it needs to do horizontal landing to be a spaceplane and if it has wings it's not a capsule

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:19:59 No.12396592 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396586
yeah, if you can get the RS-25 to start in flight
>>12396589
and STS and Energiya have been dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:21:18 No.12396597 Report

Quoted By: >>12396600 >>12396615

>>12396589
You’re a capsule

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:22:06 No.12396600 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396597
I'm a suppository, now bend over

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:22:47 No.12396603 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396516
The pressurized part of the aircraft is the majority of the fuselage. There are no sub-compartments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:24:42 No.12396604 Report

Quoted By: >>12396614

15 KM SOON
how's the weather on the 30th by the way? better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:25:42 No.12396606 Report

Quoted By:

>>12393954
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:31:27 No.12396614 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396604
not optimal. they may be targeting later in the week now
https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1332773143035961354

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:31:29 No.12396615 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396597
Your MOM's a capsule!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:34:25 No.12396619 Report

Quoted By: >>12396623 >>12396624 >>12396625 >>12396627 >>12396628 >>12396632 >>12396637 >>12396640 >>12396825

oh no no no no, HOP bros, we got too cocky....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:35:07 No.12396622 Report

Quoted By:

>Merlin engines at Boca
Wha-what are they planning bros? Lunar starship mockup?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:35:39 No.12396623 Report

Quoted By: >>12396639 >>12396825

>>12396619
>That crop job

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:35:50 No.12396624 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396619
oh boy, that amazing crop, sorry /sfg/ bros, pour some LOX on me please

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:35:52 No.12396625 Report

Quoted By: >>12396639

>>12396619
Paint.exe has become hostile

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:36:07 No.12396627 Report

Quoted By: >>12396637 >>12396639

>>12396619
Nice flag lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:36:32 No.12396628 Report

Quoted By: >>12396633 >>12396639

>>12396619
The delay comes to no one's surprise, but that white space does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:38:12 No.12396632 Report

Quoted By: >>12396639

>>12396619
oh no no no no, CROP bros, we got too cocky....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:38:57 No.12396633 Report

Quoted By: >>12396639

>>12396628
MSPaint just does that sometimes to me too.
"Today I'm going to randomly open with a 3000x3000 resolution image when I copypaste a 1920x1080 printscreen into it". I guess it's to get me to move onto whatever piece of shit they're planning to replace it with in win10.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:40:10 No.12396637 Report

Quoted By: >>12396654

>>12396619
>>12396627
https://krikienoid.github.io/flagwaver/

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:40:35 No.12396639 Report

Quoted By: >>12396641 >>12396643

>>12396633
>>12396632
>>12396628
>>12396627
>>12396625
>>12396623
I'm sorry /sfg/ bros... Feel free to put a bullet in my head, but not until I see SN8 HOP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:40:39 No.12396640 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396619
holy shit am I on /rlg/ or does /sfg/ also suffer from an ancient morgothian curse

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:42:32 No.12396641 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396639
I forgive you. MSPaint did the same to me about a week or two ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:43:06 No.12396643 Report

Quoted By: >>12396645 >>12396650 >>12396683

>>12396639
Use the Snipping Tool next time

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:44:16 No.12396645 Report

Quoted By: >>12396683

>>12396643
if you're on windows, get paint.net

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:45:18 No.12396646 Report

Quoted By:

excuse me
getpaint.net

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:47:04 No.12396649 Report

Quoted By: >>12396716

>>12393928
Soyuz-2 with that fairing looks kerbal as hell to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:47:40 No.12396650 Report

Quoted By: >>12396669

>>12396643
I did actually, but I'm using the newer snipping tool (win shift x) that just copies to the screencap to your clipboard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:49:03 No.12396654 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396637
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 20:54:14 No.12396669 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396650
win shift S*****

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:00:57 No.12396683 Report

Quoted By: >>12396689 >>12396825

>>12396643
>>12396645
just use firefox and press ctrl+shift+s. Automatically selects what you want most of the time. Really convenient.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:02:33 No.12396689 Report

Quoted By: >>12396702 >>12396707 >>12396716

>>12396683
if you're on firefox you can just paste into the 4chan window once you've either used the Firefox screenshot tool or the windows snipping tool

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:03:03 No.12396692 Report

Quoted By: >>12396709

>>12396454
Show me on the doll where the anime girl touched you

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:03:26 No.12396693 Report

Quoted By: >>12396697 >>12396716

oh shit. Nice.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:05:16 No.12396697 Report

Quoted By: >>12396716

>>12396693
it's very helpful

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:06:37 No.12396702 Report

Quoted By: >>12396703 >>12396705 >>12396798

>>12396689
Is firefox better than chrome?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:07:25 No.12396703 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396702
dunno, Chrome isn't FREE SOFTWARE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:07:26 No.12396705 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396702
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:07:31 No.12396707 Report

Quoted By: >>12396710

>>12396689
>you can just paste into the 4chan window
how, am brainlet, it just pastes spoiler tags?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:07:48 No.12396709 Report

Quoted By: >>12396710 >>12396715 >>12396825

>>12396692
I don't give a fuck about anime, but vtuber shit posters should be castrated then shot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:08:25 No.12396710 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396707
ctrl-v, bro
>>12396709

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:08:56 No.12396712 Report

Quoted By:

Apparently NASA uses Ultron

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:09:29 No.12396713 Report

Quoted By: >>12396723 >>12396730 >>12397122

when's moon rallying

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:10:32 No.12396715 Report

Quoted By: >>12396720 >>12396983

>>12396709
ogey

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:11:05 No.12396716 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396649
reminds me of this channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWARraXlBgkBU5YYY8XPJxw/videos

Some autist recreates SpaceX launches in KSP. As in they scrape the audio and recreate the visuals near 1:1. Here's the recent Vandenberg launch, starting at t-15. Frankly it's in some ways better than that shitty NASA cast: https://youtu.be/ZgMNT3Nwx4s?t=31

>>12396693
>>12396689
meant to quote

>>12396697
yeah not having to save the img is pretty great

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:11:30 No.12396720 Report

Quoted By: >>12396733

>>12396715
don't avatarfag

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:12:30 No.12396723 Report

Quoted By: >>12396725

>>12396713
I unironically want this so bad. Having to compensate for all the air time they'd be getting would require a ton of skill.
Really, if all goes well in the future the moon is just going to be a giant playground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:13:32 No.12396725 Report

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>>12396723
I want to dress up like Casval and then drop rocks on governments

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:16:25 No.12396730 Report

Quoted By: >>12396735 >>12396736 >>12396740

>>12396713
Probably when Starship goes online. It'll most likely be with smaller remote controlled rovers at first with larger manned rovers splitting off into their own league once they're developed. A sport of that level of novelty would make large amounts of money in sponsorships alone.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:17:00 No.12396733 Report

Quoted By: >>12396735

>>12396720
Or what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:18:10 No.12396735 Report

Quoted By: >>12396739

>>12396730
can't wait for Group B when they need to ban hydrazine and UDMH
>>12396733
keep fucking around and find out

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:18:21 No.12396736 Report

Quoted By: >>12396742 >>12396744

>>12396730
I guess the rovers would to have RCS thrusters firing up, pushing the rovers into the ground? Otherwise probably too floaty to get consistent traction

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:19:11 No.12396738 Report

Quoted By:

excuse me
Group B Moon Rally gets banned after somebody almost dies of spicy orange and cancer juice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:19:31 No.12396739 Report

Quoted By: >>12396744

>>12396735
>each rover has a few rockets strapped on for a few seconds of MAX FAST

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:19:36 No.12396740 Report

Quoted By: >>12396748

>>12396730
>muh remote control
keep your health-and-safety-pilled commie nonsense on t*rra

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:20:26 No.12396742 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396736
Maybe for later developments, but the first ones would most likely lack thrusters beyond the first landing and be purely solar powered. That way they can be reused for later races with little to no supporting infrastructure needed. Plus the floatiness would be novel and funny to watch for the first couple of races.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:20:38 No.12396744 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396736
upwards thrusters and forwards thrusters are banned
RCS is only for controlling orientation in flight
>>12396739
rockets are banned, RCS is for aerial control only

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:22:50 No.12396748 Report

Quoted By: >>12396781

>>12396740
It's not for safety, but development cost. It's hard to say if the sport would truly be popular enough to be self sustaining financially. Smaller remote controlled rovers are cheaper to develop and drive. If they turn out to not be as popular as needed, then the financial loss isn't terribly high.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:24:24 No.12396756 Report

Quoted By: >>12396802

>>12393984
Imagine two falcon9’s attached to the star ship.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:27:28 No.12396763 Report

Quoted By: >>12396773 >>12396778 >>12396796 >>12397358

oh no no no no, HOP bros, we got too cocky....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:31:07 No.12396769 Report

Quoted By:

Reminder, SN8 will fail and crash. SpaceX is going bankrupt and Elon Musk's fraud will be exposed. He's not an engineer. He's a businessman. He's a fraud. Anyone with a billion dollar can make a rocket.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:32:28 No.12396773 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396763
Holy BASED

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:33:29 No.12396777 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:33:52 No.12396778 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396763
We wont need a hop if that screenshot keeps expanding upwardly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:34:56 No.12396781 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396748
Gonna be rovers on mars/the moon anyway and once you have people and buggies you will have cernans going all out on them, doesn't matter what they cost or what the audience is

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:40:37 No.12396796 Report

Quoted By: >>12396815

>>12396763
oh no no no no, HOP bros, we got too cocky....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:41:20 No.12396798 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396702
I like it better.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:43:34 No.12396802 Report

Quoted By: >>12396836 >>12396886 >>12396891

>>12396756

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:47:53 No.12396815 Report

Quoted By: >>12396835

>>12396796
That's ONLY 64KB, and the limit is 2MB.
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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:53:59 No.12396825 Report

Quoted By: >>12396841

>>12396619
>>12396623
SpaceX needs a new fairing recovery ship called "MS Paint".
>>12396683
Macfags smug, they've had a partial screen capture for decades.
>>12396709
This, vtuber shit is cancer no matter what you think about anime.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:54:29 No.12396827 Report

Quoted By: >>12396906

>>12396586
now it will

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:57:19 No.12396835 Report

Quoted By: >>12396844

>>12396815
There's a resolution limit bro

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:57:24 No.12396836 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396802
what a cute bundle of sticks...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 21:59:33 No.12396841 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396825
Win + Shift + S retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 22:00:37 No.12396844 Report

Quoted By: >>12397362

>>12396835
THIS SITE CANNOT CONTAIN THE E L O N G A T I O N OF PAINT

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 22:10:11 No.12396865 Report

Quoted By: >>12396870 >>12396881

>*distant screaming*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 22:11:57 No.12396870 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396865
wow, china's space program is pretty hardcore

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 22:16:09 No.12396881 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396865
This is the future when Elon Starship begins to take shape

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 22:18:39 No.12396886 Report

Quoted By: >>12396926

>>12396802
Energia II: reusable booster crew

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 22:20:09 No.12396891 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396802
Jeremy Clarkson jumps the throttle, screaming POWWEEEERRRRR

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 22:28:35 No.12396906 Report

Quoted By: >>12397033

>>12396827
you don't need the SRBs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 22:37:45 No.12396922 Report

Quoted By:

I wonder how much Tesla is going to make selling power-packs to SpaceX. It's one Model X battery pack and four motors per Starship, right?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 22:39:27 No.12396926 Report

Quoted By: >>12396935 >>12397041

>>12396886
>Energia II
Don't even get me started on Energia 2, anon. It should be illegal to design something so beautiful yet never build it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 22:41:31 No.12396935 Report

Quoted By: >>12396958

>>12396926
Kino shit never lasts long when the government is doing the spending

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 22:50:06 No.12396958 Report

Quoted By: >>12396968

>>12396935
>somehow costs more than a Titan
Gee I wonder why they didn’t keep it around

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 22:53:23 No.12396968 Report

Quoted By: >>12396984 >>12396986 >>12397006

>>12396958
>literally cluster a bunch of redstones together
>still costs more than Titan
has NASA ever not been a meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 22:58:07 No.12396983 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396715
Fucking onions avatar fag fucking consumer zoomer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 22:58:27 No.12396984 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396968
One big tank costs way less than a bunch of small ones, but at that point it was still difficult to make such a massive tank

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:00:03 No.12396986 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396968
I don’t see anything for their medium lift rocket other than that they are going to take a core jupiter stage and slap on redstone stages. It’s not that easy in rocketry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:04:49 No.12396999 Report

Quoted By: >>12397010

hippity hoopity hoop when

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:09:06 No.12397006 Report

Quoted By: >>12397012

>>12396968
To be fair, the Saturn I came before the lifter versions of the Titan, and it was a rushed project.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:10:04 No.12397010 Report

Quoted By: >>12397029 >>12397053

>>12396999
Prob not this coming monday, may tuesday or wed. There's some wind issues on monday.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:10:35 No.12397012 Report

Quoted By:

>>12397006
Everything back then was rushed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:16:07 No.12397029 Report

Quoted By: >>12397032

>>12397010
>There's some wind issues on monday.
just build a wind barrier

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:17:05 No.12397032 Report

Quoted By:

>>12397029
Easier to wait a day.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:18:07 No.12397033 Report

Quoted By: >>12397035 >>12397044

>>12396906
would super heavy really have positive thrust/weight with SLS block 2 stacked on top of it? Pretty fucking nuts if so.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:18:51 No.12397035 Report

Quoted By:

>>12397033
yeah, easily

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:19:45 No.12397041 Report

Quoted By: >>12397068

>>12396926
just imagine watching the boosters separate, spread their wings, and gracefully fly down and land one after the other

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:20:33 No.12397044 Report

Quoted By:

>>12397033

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:21:40 No.12397052 Report

Quoted By: >>12397062

I think it's closer than I thought, actually
the core stage has a wet mass of 2000 tons

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:21:52 No.12397053 Report

Quoted By: >>12397060

>>12397010
>hums ominously

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:24:47 No.12397060 Report

Quoted By:

>>12397053
so this is the bastard responsible for all the hurricanes this season huh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:25:24 No.12397062 Report

Quoted By: >>12397065 >>12397066

>>12397052
could just use the original Super Heavy design with 42 raptors

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:25:50 No.12397065 Report

Quoted By:

>>12397062
yeah

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:28:15 No.12397066 Report

Quoted By: >>12397072

>>12397062
wew

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:29:23 No.12397068 Report

Quoted By:

>>12397041
>this will never happen
Why does it have to be this way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:29:50 No.12397072 Report

Quoted By: >>12397074 >>12397078 >>12397080 >>12397090 >>12397094 >>12397100

>>12397066
...in what world would this work

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:31:08 No.12397074 Report

Quoted By:

>>12397072
this one, looks good to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:31:50 No.12397078 Report

Quoted By: >>12397097

>>12397072
What's wrong with it? They got 27 engines working on Falcon Heavy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:32:15 No.12397080 Report

Quoted By:

>>12397072
>rough waves send the booster into the ocean
>loses months of engine production in an instant

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:34:06 No.12397090 Report

Quoted By:

>>12397072
The one where SpaceX has engineers that aren't just occupying space for the welfare.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:35:22 No.12397094 Report

Quoted By:

>>12397072
the one where raptor would have been much weaker than it is now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:36:24 No.12397097 Report

Quoted By: >>12397101

>>12397078
Not really comparable, since FH has 3 thrust pucks to take the force

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:37:22 No.12397100 Report

Quoted By: >>12397104

>>12397072
A nice world where hopes for spaceflight are restored.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:37:43 No.12397101 Report

Quoted By: >>12397106

>>12397097
Then make one big thrust puck

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:39:04 No.12397104 Report

Quoted By: >>12397111 >>12397112 >>12397287

>>12397100
imagine...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:39:58 No.12397106 Report

Quoted By:

>>12397101
Well they did

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:41:21 No.12397111 Report

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>>12397104
I can only get so erect, anon, don't push me..

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:41:28 No.12397112 Report

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>>12397104
Holy shit

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 23:45:20 No.12397122 Report

Quoted By: >>12397295

>>12396713
With Dragon 2 carrying movie stars soon, sooner than you might think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 00:35:27 No.12397202 Report

Quoted By: >>12397269 >>12397273 >>12397299

Chang'e 5 capture burn successful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pNj0cJpYa0

First braking took 17 min and reached an orbit of 400 km (apo?).
A second braking one day later will lower the orbit to 200 km.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 00:58:21 No.12397269 Report

Quoted By:

>>12397202
very noice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 00:59:58 No.12397273 Report

Quoted By:

>>12397202
Good work for them

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Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 01:05:32 No.12397287 Report

Quoted By:

>>12397104
THICC

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 01:08:11 No.12397295 Report

Quoted By: >>12397300

>>12397122
Isn't Tom Cruise also going to space?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 01:10:05 No.12397299 Report

Quoted By:

>>12397202
>17 min
That is a hell of a maneuver. Apollo's LOI took 6.5 minutes on a 91kN engine (vs Chang'e's 3kN).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 01:10:09 No.12397300 Report

Quoted By: >>12397305

>>12397295
hes going to find menu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 01:11:20 No.12397302 Report

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>Page 10

Staging: >>12397301

>>12397301

>>12397301

>>12397301

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Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 01:12:12 No.12397305 Report

Quoted By:

>>12397300
xenu fuck autocorrect

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 01:32:14 No.12397358 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396763
a level of based not thought possible....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 01:33:45 No.12397362 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396844
anyone got the abaurdly wide N1 pic? i think it's just below to width limit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 01:59:08 No.12397420 Report

Quoted By:

>>12396211
LOL good work isaac, youre the one on the tranny sjw bullshit side

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 02:00:19 No.12397423 Report

Quoted By: >>12397429 >>12397502

>>12396248
i just know its probably the actual isaac asimov and the actual event horizon dude hwoever that is just shilling for themselves, but fuck you convinced me, ill give that event horizon stuff a chance

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 02:01:20 No.12397429 Report

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>>12397423
>the actual isaac asimov
nigga what

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Anonymous Sun 29 Nov 2020 02:34:31 No.12397502 Report

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>>12397423

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