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Memetics and social science

!niqjediPCA Fri 27 Nov 22:24:58 2020 No.12393562 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12393571 >>12393764 >>12394069 >>12394227 >>12394284

what is the most successful meme on the planet earth?

10 points for the correct answer.

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!niqjediPCA Fri 27 Nov 2020 22:29:50 No.12393571 Report

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>>12393562
if no correct responses, and the thread is still up, I will post the answer in one hour (18:24 EST)

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!niqjediPCA Fri 27 Nov 2020 22:36:41 No.12393591 Report

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wow, not even guesses... I thought /sci/ would be all over this one.

especially since it's so different from the usual 0.999999 = 1 and P=NP threads.

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!niqjediPCA Fri 27 Nov 2020 22:57:22 No.12393657 Report

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alright, one half hour remains.

if you have any guesses, now's the time.

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!niqjediPCA Fri 27 Nov 2020 23:01:23 No.12393670 Report

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you're going to kick yourself when I finally tell you.

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!niqjediPCA Fri 27 Nov 2020 23:05:02 No.12393686 Report

Quoted By: >>12394073

and yes, there is a correct answer, objectively.

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!niqjediPCA Fri 27 Nov 2020 23:15:08 No.12393733 Report

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10 minutes remain.

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!niqjediPCA Fri 27 Nov 2020 23:20:39 No.12393755 Report

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4 minutes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Nov 2020 23:23:09 No.12393764 Report

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>>12393562
The Bible

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!niqjediPCA Fri 27 Nov 2020 23:25:08 No.12393769 Report

Quoted By: >>12393786

The most successful meme on the planet earth is:

Language.

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!niqjediPCA Fri 27 Nov 2020 23:28:23 No.12393780 Report

Quoted By: >>12393814 >>12393815

>sounds of /sci/ anons furiously looking up the definition of the word "meme"

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!niqjediPCA Fri 27 Nov 2020 23:30:45 No.12393785 Report

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Debate me...

you *WILL* lose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Nov 2020 23:30:47 No.12393786 Report

Quoted By: >>12393814

>>12393769
You have my attention, sir.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Nov 2020 23:35:04 No.12393802 Report

Quoted By: >>12394212

Life's like a road that you travel on
When there's one day here and the next day gone
Sometimes you bend and sometimes you stand
Sometimes you turn your back to the wind
There's a world outside every darkened door
Where blues won't haunt you anymore
Where brave are free and lovers soar
Come ride with me to the distant shore
We won't hesitate
To break down the garden gate
There's not much time left today
Life is a highway
I wanna ride it all night long
If you're going my way
I wanna drive it all night long
Through all these cities and all these towns
It's in my blood, and it's all around
I love you now like I loved you then
This is the road, and these are the hands
From Mozambique to those Memphis nights
The Khyber Pass to Vancouver's lights
Knock me down and back up again
You're in my blood, I'm not a lonely man
There's no load I can't hold
A road so rough this I know
I'll be there when the light comes in
Tell 'em we're survivors
Life is a highway
I wanna ride it all night long
If you're going my way
I wanna drive it all night long
Life is a highway
I wanna ride it all night long
If you're going my way
I wanna drive it all night long
There was a distance between you and I
A misunderstanding once
But now we look in the eye
There ain't no load that I can't hold
A road so rough this I know
I'll be there when the light comes in
Tell 'em we're survivors
Life is a highway
I wanna ride it all night long
If you're going my way
I wanna drive it all night long
Life is a highway
I wanna ride it all night long
If you're going my way
I wanna drive it all night long
Gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, yeah
Life is a highway
I wanna ride it all night long
If you're going my way
I wanna drive it all night long

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!niqjediPCA Fri 27 Nov 2020 23:37:52 No.12393814 Report

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>>12393786

thank you, but the entire point of this thread was this post:

>>12393780

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Nov 2020 23:37:53 No.12393815 Report

Quoted By: >>12393820

>>12393780
Meme theory isn't so obscure you're the only person who knows about it.

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!niqjediPCA Fri 27 Nov 2020 23:38:54 No.12393820 Report

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>>12393815
and you didn't post the correct answer, why?

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!niqjediPCA Fri 27 Nov 2020 23:44:48 No.12393842 Report

Quoted By: >>12393848

They say that the pen is mightier than the sword...

but everyone looks at the pen, and everyone looks at the sword....

>"How can a pen be mightier than a sword?"
>"A sword is made to kill, a pen is merely an instrument to write language!"

Indeed, a sword looks more formidable than a sword, until you realize the lesson that jack's father tried to impart upon him, in the show "samurai Jack"

>"What power does a sword have, over the hand that wields it?"

Men do not use force of arms aimlessly, or without purpose.... they use it for REASONS.

these reasons need not be logical, indeed many of these reasons can be strictly emotional, but the only way to sway mens minds, is through language.

there can be no other way.

for symbolic communication, the idea that a noise or symbol written in stone or on paper, or even on an electronic display, can convey an idea from one mind to anouther, is the most fundamental of all memes...

A meme that trace their lineage alongside the genetic markers we tend to ascribe to the various races and lineages of the planet.

it is the most fundamental meme on the planet, true to the definition, it spreads from mind to mind, and so successfully, that it not only inhabits the minds of nearly all humans on the planet, but can stay the hand that wields the sword, or provoke it to action.

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!niqjediPCA Fri 27 Nov 2020 23:45:50 No.12393848 Report

Quoted By: >>12394073

>>12393842
>Indeed, a sword looks more formidable than a *sword

*pen

fixed that for myself.

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!niqjediPCA Fri 27 Nov 2020 23:50:57 No.12393858 Report

Quoted By: >>12393863 >>12394073

this concludes today's object lesson on memetics.

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!niqjediPCA Fri 27 Nov 2020 23:52:39 No.12393863 Report

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>>12393858

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:03:57 No.12393902 Report

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and greetings from /pol/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:05:58 No.12393914 Report

Quoted By: >>12393933

Thanks bro, very entertaining

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:11:11 No.12393933 Report

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>>12393914
you're very welcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YhJxJZOWBw

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:22:13 No.12393970 Report

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>what is the most successful meme on the planet earth?

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:24:41 No.12393983 Report

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The peer review process is useless without courage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair

and to believe that politics has no sway on science is the height of ignorance.

considering historic examples.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpP1LH9tlY8

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:25:52 No.12393985 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHjMhYoY4Mg

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:33:23 No.12394010 Report

Quoted By: >>12394073

if the fear of negative social proof trumps your quest for knowledge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_proof

you are not a scientist...

you are a sycophant

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:47:18 No.12394062 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPhT2HTLKLI

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:50:54 No.12394069 Report

Quoted By: >>12394078 >>12394079

>>12393562
I saw that you wrote language latter in thread and would argue that this is not the most successful, just one of the most successful.
Mythological interpretations of the monomyth is the biggest meme of all. The older we find languages the older examples of the monomyth can be found.
Carl Jung laid ground work
Joseph Campbell explained it
Understanding the psychological pressures of the monomyth allows you to have a rosetta stone of all memes.

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:52:06 No.12394073 Report

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>>12394010
>>12393858
>>12393848
>>12393686

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:53:00 No.12394078 Report

Quoted By: >>12394083

>>12394069
the biggest meme of all is probably sex. Even animals are doing it.

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:53:33 No.12394079 Report

Quoted By: >>12394189

>>12394069
>Mythological interpretations of the monomyth is the biggest meme of all.

and you're using language to say this to me?

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:55:45 No.12394083 Report

Quoted By: >>12394092

>>12394078
>the biggest meme of all is probably sex.

trees have gender.... and yet no neural system to accept memes.

by definition, sex isn't a meme, it's a biological reality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 00:59:04 No.12394092 Report

Quoted By: >>12394097

>>12394083
Then language isn't a meme, it's a biological reality.

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:00:29 No.12394097 Report

Quoted By: >>12394120

>>12394092
list every biological species that has language.

go ahead, i'll wait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:06:32 No.12394120 Report

Quoted By: >>12394162 >>12394165

>>12394097
humans
dolphins/whales
meercats
dogs
parrots
songbirds

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:19:49 No.12394162 Report

Quoted By: >>12394225

>>12394120
memes are ideas that are transferred from one organism to anouther....

sex is a inerrant biological drive to reproduce among gendered species.

you can see how sex isn't a meme, if you are an actual scientist, right?

gendered reproduction doesn't require a central nervous system....

therefore, is not a meme. since the "Idea" cannot be transferred from one mind to anouther.

if you were honest, you would admit this....

but like the catholic church, you are still attempting to imprison Galileo for being right, and yet, politically incorrect.

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:21:14 No.12394165 Report

Quoted By: >>12394225

>>12394120
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_reproductive_morphology

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:27:27 No.12394189 Report

Quoted By: >>12394207

>>12394079
Proto language and symbols laid the ground work to express what was already a shared experience. It's okay to be wrong.

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:34:31 No.12394207 Report

Quoted By: >>12394211

>>12394189
>Proto language

proto what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:36:01 No.12394211 Report

Quoted By: >>12394236

>>12394207
The grunts, sounds, and cues that existed prior to language. Pre language. Not actual language. Pseud thread is becoming annoying as you show off your lack of reading comprehension

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:36:03 No.12394212 Report

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>>12393802
kek but irrelevant

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:39:56 No.12394225 Report

Quoted By: >>12394236

>>12394162
>>12394165
don't know why you keep bringing up trees. Trees also communicate with each other using pheromones, so the same argument you use against sex because trees do it without brains, can also be used against language because trees also communicate without a central nervous system.

>sex is a inerrant biological drive to reproduce among gendered species.

I can just as easily say language is a inerrant biological drive to communicate among like-species.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:41:21 No.12394227 Report

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>>12393562

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:44:33 No.12394236 Report

Quoted By: >>12394241 >>12394250

>>12394211
>The grunts, sounds, and cues that existed prior to language.

weren't those language?

>>12394225
>don't know why you keep bringing up trees

because some trees have gender, and yet no neural system to have memes.

therefore, you are wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:48:23 No.12394241 Report

Quoted By: >>12394291

>>12394236
>weren't those language?
No, moron, they were meant convey feelings and emotion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 01:50:40 No.12394250 Report

Quoted By: >>12394291

>>12394236
face it, your arguments don't hold up. You're just a sub-IQ tripfag who can't even construct a basic argument and have yet to address any of the points brought against you in a coherent matter. You haven't even given a definition for what you're defining a meme to be, nor what you define language to be, deliberately, so that what ever counterpoint anyone claims you can just say it arbitrarily doesn't match your own definition and win by default.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:01:04 No.12394284 Report

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>>12393562
corona virus

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:05:00 No.12394291 Report

Quoted By: >>12394297

>>12394241
>No, moron, they were meant convey feelings and emotion.

>meant to convey

and what do you call that?

>>12394250
>face it, your arguments don't hold up.

nice appeal to authority, shame if someone refuted it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:06:13 No.12394297 Report

Quoted By: >>12394315

>>12394291
>still no definition of meme or language

try again

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:11:06 No.12394315 Report

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>>12394297
>>still no definition of meme

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme

oh, i'll have you fucking know....

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:47:14 No.12394405 Report

Quoted By: >>12394417 >>12394437

>meemings

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:50:15 No.12394417 Report

Quoted By: >>12394441

>>12394405
wow, what a great retort.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:55:15 No.12394431 Report

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Sneed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:56:42 No.12394437 Report

Quoted By: >>12394441 >>12394442

>>12394405
that was not directed at anyone directly.
it just came to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:58:06 No.12394441 Report

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>>12394437
>>12394417

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 02:58:12 No.12394442 Report

Quoted By: >>12394471

>>12394437
>that was not directed at anyone directly.

good luck with that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZZvmHWEu5E

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:06:34 No.12394471 Report

Quoted By: >>12394480

>>12394442
i dont mind.
they can all come at me.

finished alyx 5 mins ago.
4 am now.
Im bored.

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:09:28 No.12394480 Report

Quoted By: >>12394484

>>12394471
>they can all come at me.

okay.

i'll let them know you said that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:11:01 No.12394484 Report

Quoted By: >>12394508

>>12394480
i will put on my robe and a wizard hat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:13:03 No.12394487 Report

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This

https://youtu.be/Ta0bnutAVLc

.

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Anonymous Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:18:58 No.12394504 Report

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something interesting happening right now on the 4chin? anywhere?

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 03:20:22 No.12394508 Report

Quoted By: >>12394783

>>12394484
BASF.

it's going to take more than a robe and wizard hat.

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!niqjediPCA Sat 28 Nov 2020 05:39:06 No.12394783 Report

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>>12394508
>it's going to take more than a robe and wizard hat.

a LOT more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBJe53IA9DE

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