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Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 09:12:10 2020 No.12388433 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12388471 >>12388489 >>12388657

4 dimensional space doesn't exist and is intrinsically impossible. And no, it's not because our brains are 'trapped' in 3D; 4D space is genuinely just impossible. Prove me wrong.

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Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2020 09:29:42 No.12388471 Report

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>>12388433
It is always possible to visualize 4D objects by animating a 3D object along a scrollable interval

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Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2020 09:43:19 No.12388489 Report

Quoted By: >>12388493 >>12388495 >>12388505

>>12388433
I do tensor product of 3 dimensional space on 1 dimensional space and obtain 4 dimensional space. It exists as it satisfies all required axioms and rules. What more do you want?

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Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2020 09:47:31 No.12388493 Report

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>>12388489
>What more do you want?
He wants an ELI5 explanation and gets angry when there isn't one.

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Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2020 09:49:13 No.12388495 Report

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>>12388489
He's probably referring to the 'real world'. It's obvious that vectors in $\mathbb{R}^4$ do exist as objects, I guess OP won't have problems with that.

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Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2020 09:56:15 No.12388503 Report

Quoted By: >>12388514 >>12388785

Simply put, is there a 'real' 'spatial' 4D that actually exists where conscious 4D entities are inside it experiencing that 4D realm visually right now? The answer is no there isn't.

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Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2020 09:57:21 No.12388505 Report

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>>12388489
$\mathbb{R}^3 \otimes \mathbb{R} \cong \mathbb{R}^3$

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Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2020 10:03:02 No.12388514 Report

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>>12388503
you cannot exclude this a priori. 'Entities' that see time as a spatial dimension may exist, but they would defy any definition of 'entity' we have. In any case we have never seen any manifestation of any such entity. However to rule out the possibility is just silly and pretentious.

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Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2020 12:04:45 No.12388657 Report

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>>12388433
We can't prove you wrong, until you state your argument.

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Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2020 12:20:19 No.12388671 Report

Quoted By: >>12388711

Arent we able to conceptualise 4 dimensions and greater though?

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Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2020 12:54:34 No.12388711 Report

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>>12388671
of course we can and it's not even complicated. it's just that retards think

4D = our universe is embedded in an actual four-dimensional physical space inhabitated by four-dimensional beings who are observing us on a petri dish

but it just means that you need 4 coordinates instead of 3 to specify a point. that's all.

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Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2020 13:43:58 No.12388785 Report

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>>12388503
you would see a 3d thing if you meet a 4d entity.

>be 2d human
>live in 2d house
>3d god comes along
>god "I can look in your bathroom and kitchen at the same time."
>you "how can you do that, i cannot imagine."
>god "ez."

imagine a 4d entity. he could look on your desk. and under the desk. at the same time. he could look even into your desk, or the bathroom or the middle of the earth.

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Anonymous Thu 26 Nov 2020 13:45:19 No.12388788 Report

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>>12388711
>but it just means that you need 4 coordinates instead of 3 to specify a point. that's all.
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