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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 00:11:08 2020 No.12383481 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12383596

If the Universe is deterministic, then were all negative events that happen to you already destined to occur?

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 00:17:21 No.12383505 Report

Quoted By: >>12383570 >>12383580 >>12383603 >>12384713

No, determinism isn't the same as predeterminism. We are all characters in an ongoing story that has yet to finish. The outcome of the story is influenced by you. So determinism coexists with free will.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 00:35:06 No.12383570 Report

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>>12383505
Yeah but you can't do anything other than what is in fact going to occur

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 00:36:41 No.12383580 Report

Quoted By: >>12383603 >>12385611

>>12383505
Nonsense. If determinism is true, then all your actions, thoughts and decisions are the inevitable outcome of what happened before you even existed. That means none of the actions are actually yours, you aren't influencing anything.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 00:39:22 No.12383593 Report

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If the universe is limitless is there a copy of earth with exact same dude as you actually getting answer to that question?

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 00:39:46 No.12383596 Report

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>>12383481
ESL?
Short answer yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 00:41:24 No.12383603 Report

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>>12383505
>>12383570
this
>>12383580
are you okay anon you just posted incoherent babbling

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 00:42:06 No.12383609 Report

Quoted By: >>12383633 >>12384719 >>12384723

'Determinism / free will' are IRRELEVANT.
What are you going to do if it doesn't cut your way? Kill yourselves?
It literally doesn't matter. You're going to live your life regardless. You can gum up your brain with pointless nonsense like this and be miserable, or you can forget it and JUST LIVE.
The latter is what I'm doing. I recommend you all follow suit.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 00:49:07 No.12383633 Report

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>>12383609

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 00:52:46 No.12383649 Report

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Yes the universe is deterministic and yes all the negative events in history are done for a reason.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 06:06:38 No.12384713 Report

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>>12383505
You almost had it. Free will actually doesn’t exist but it feels like it does.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 06:10:02 No.12384719 Report

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>>12383609
>or you can forget it and JUST LIVE
>JUST
>LIVE

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 06:11:35 No.12384723 Report

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>>12383609
>What are you going to do if it doesn't cut your way? Kill yourselves?
You will only kill yourself if and when you're made to do so by foregoing deterministic causes.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 15:17:18 No.12385585 Report

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>not taking the compatibalism pill

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 15:31:29 No.12385611 Report

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>>12383580
There's only adequate determinism, nothing is strictly determined, epigenetics and neuroplasticity destroy notions like predeterminism, you being chained forever to predeterminism is nonsense.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 15:32:29 No.12385615 Report

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