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Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 21:27:56 2020 No.12382642 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12382653 >>12382664 >>12382688 >>12382717 >>12382720 >>12382724 >>12382836 >>12385405

How come we can't have some who has accomplished something in the field as climate czar? John Kerry already had years as secretary of state to do something on the issue and he failed to act.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 21:29:41 No.12382653 Report

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>>12382642
>How come we can't have some who has accomplished something in the field as climate czar?
This is how "politics" should be
Genuine representatives from the field who are best in class deciding policy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 21:32:01 No.12382664 Report

Quoted By: >>12383849 >>12383861

>>12382642
Thats only wired for you cause you believe a warmer climate is bad for us. But thats a lie.

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Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 21:33:48 No.12382672 Report

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What if we just had an emperor? wouldn't that solve a lot of problems?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 21:33:49 No.12382674 Report

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Paris Agreement?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 21:35:18 No.12382678 Report

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>>12382674
That was just a load of bullshit about cloud seeding and trading atmospheric water.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 21:37:19 No.12382688 Report

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>>12382642
That's how politics work.
You create laws for the little people as a means of posturing and enriching yourself.
But when it comes to climate legislation it's good that it's a corrupt moneygrubber in charge, actual climate action as some of you zealots suggest would annihilate society.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 21:42:47 No.12382717 Report

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>>12382642
Because
>Orange Man = bad
>He ? Orange Man
Thus
>He ? bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 21:45:09 No.12382720 Report

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>>12382642
Yeah, I sure hope this guy doesn't pull us out of the paris climate agreement. What kind of retard would do that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 21:46:39 No.12382724 Report

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>>12382642
It's nothing about taking buses.

It's about taking systematic measurements so you'll tank a eco friendly tank made from sea weed in your tank on your way to get ice cream across 2 states.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:16:14 No.12382830 Report

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>>12382724
lol

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Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:17:39 No.12382836 Report

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>>12382642
And he is in a somewhat roundabout way, Trump's cousin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:24:47 No.12382875 Report

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>>12382674
A meaningless, self-harm pact if China, India, or other "developing nations", to use their own words, are not also on board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:26:31 No.12382880 Report

Quoted By: >>12382886 >>12383153

>>12382875
I mean india and china are pursuing EVs and renewable energy sources far more aggressively than most western nations (especially the US) if anyone should be making this argument it's them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:28:12 No.12382886 Report

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>>12382880
That's like tax evasion being justified through charity donations. Sure they may be doing some good things, but you have to take in the whole picture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:32:26 No.12382903 Report

Quoted By: >>12382918 >>12382925 >>12382929 >>12383167 >>12383179

>>12382886
And the whole picture is we're doing jack shit, while china is the reason the price of solar has fallen off a cliff over the last decade. Has poured billions into public transportation and affordable electric vehicles. Have per capita emissions of under 50% of the U.S while doing virtually all their manufacturing. Yet they aren't whining about how the US isn't doing their fair share, they're accelerating all their investments. It's honestly just one example of how China is a world leader while the US just cries in the corner and hands lobbyists more money.

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Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:37:04 No.12382918 Report

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>>12382903
Sweety, this thread is about the hypocrisy of vile, corrupt, money grubbing western politicians, not the feel-good green washing of expansionist dictatorships.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:38:30 No.12382925 Report

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>>12382903
??????????????????Free Tibet ???????The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 ??????The Tiananmen Square Massacre ?????The Anti-Rightist Struggle ?????The Great Leap Forward ?????The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution ??Human Rights ??Democratization ??Freedom ??Independence ???Multi-party system ????Taiwan Formosa ????Republic of China ????????Tibet ????Dalai Lama ???Falun Dafa ????????The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region ??????Nobel Peace Prize ???Liu Xiaobo ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ???? ?? ???? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Winnie the Pooh ?????????

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Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:38:59 No.12382928 Report

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>>12382918
>>12382875
>NOOOOOOO WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING INDIA AND CHINA AREN'T DOING THEIR FAIR SHAAARRRREEEE WAAAAAAHHHHHH
I mean you brought it up. Not my fault you're either ignorant or a terrible liar.

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Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:39:23 No.12382929 Report

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>>12382903
China is a world leader of human rights violations.

Look at the chart. The US number is unacceptable, but it actually is decreasing. Look at that fucking increase for China and India though.

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Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:40:01 No.12382934 Report

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>>12382925
cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:41:24 No.12382939 Report

Quoted By: >>12382958 >>12383192

>>12382929
good job, you moved all your heavy industry to china because you didn't want to pay Americans a living wage and STILL didn't even manage to reduce CO2 emissions just flatline them. Impressive! Is this the power of the free market??

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Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:42:22 No.12382942 Report

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Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:42:49 No.12382946 Report

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>>12382928
china and india are doing the bare minimum necessary to appease retarded sheep like you. meanwhile "economic growth" will erase any paltry gains they achieve in less than a week.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:43:35 No.12382952 Report

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>>12382929
>humans rights violations
don't you have niggers to lock up for life in for profit prisons for shoplifting, spics to lock in cages, and brown hospitals drone strike in the middle east?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:44:54 No.12382958 Report

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>>12382939
And that occured because regulations increased in the US without changing in China. That's the problem. You have to do it globally or else it doesn't matter. Companies will move away from countries with regulations and move to those without.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:46:33 No.12382966 Report

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>>12382952
It's terrible, I know. It blows my mind that China manages to outdo corporate politicians and their military industrial complex. Both need to be ended.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 22:48:04 No.12382974 Report

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>>12382958
Imagine being this much of a cuck. Imagine thinking the only way to keep jobs is by allowing child labor and slave tier wages. You unironically deserve to die in a coal mine at 18 for 20 cents an hour.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 23:09:34 No.12383065 Report

Quoted By: >>12383091 >>12383237

>>12382974
How in the world did you read my post and get to that point?

I favor environmental and labor regulations, but my point is that they are meaningless and self destructive if you do it to your own country while allowing other countries not to. That China is doing these things is a travesty, but if you damage your own economy, you lose your bargaining power and lose everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 23:15:19 No.12383091 Report

Quoted By: >>12383134

>>12383065
exactly my point, was it too hard to slap tariffs on imports equal to the profits of moving to a country with zero labor or environmental regulations? It's not exactly difficult, but that would require America to be anything other than a corrupt Corporatocracy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 23:22:07 No.12383134 Report

Quoted By: >>12384032 >>12384218

>>12383091
Trump unironically was attempting to do this. The mainstream media went nuts about starting "trade wars" and attacked Trump for it. Shit's real bad. I hate this shit as much as you do, but unfortunately there are global powers keeping this shit in place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 23:23:57 No.12383153 Report

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>>12382880
that's because a lot of the oil industry is globally established by the US, and mining for EV is relatively new.
China has more sway in Africa where a lot of shit comes from

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 23:24:59 No.12383167 Report

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>>12382903
>Have per capita emissions of under 50% of the U.S
guy do you know how many chinese are lowly rural peasants
even rural americans are afforded a lot of first world luxuries

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 23:26:01 No.12383179 Report

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>>12382903
Also China is now outsourcing a lot of their "dirty work" to other countries so their pollution footprint looks better on paper

This is why stats are a load of dog shit and its foolish to blindly follow them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 23:27:59 No.12383192 Report

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>>12382939
Who's "you" exactly?
Reagan and Nixon and practically every president since?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Nov 2020 23:32:55 No.12383237 Report

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>>12383065
buddy elite capitalists basically paid off lobbyists to make this happen
politicians are spineless. it doesn't have to be that way

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 01:41:13 No.12383840 Report

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>>12382875
Isn't China hitting developed nation status soon? According to Chinese media they just erradicated poverty

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 01:43:15 No.12383849 Report

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>>12382664
Hi Canada.

Lautrec (based)

Lautrec (based) Wed 25 Nov 2020 01:45:56 No.12383861 Report

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>>12382664
Just watch and see how much we enjoy the "warmer climate"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 02:14:37 No.12384022 Report

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>>12383840
>According to Chinese media they just erradicated poverty

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 02:15:49 No.12384032 Report

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>>12383134
A lot of people just stop at orange man bad without looking at what he actually did...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 02:43:14 No.12384218 Report

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>>12383134
unconditional tariffs on everything without actually providing incentives for companies to bring manufacturing back does nothing but raise prices for American consumers, and fuck over farmers who rely on china to buy their crops. Trump didn't have a plan and fucked over Americans, while barely hurting china. It brought zero manufacturing jobs back. But hey Mexico Vietnam and South Korea made fucking bank, so hey thanks Trump.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 02:46:39 No.12384227 Report

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hey look at this, primate life on this planet has thrived in historical environments with co2 levels over 1000ppm

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 02:48:47 No.12384236 Report

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>>12384227
if you go back to the late triassic, proto-mammals have thrived at nearly 2000ppm

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 02:48:49 No.12384238 Report

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>>12384227
Don't care. The current warming is still completely terrible for humanity. Whine more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 02:49:37 No.12384242 Report

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>>12384227
They say Devonian industrial agriculture was the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 04:33:57 No.12384550 Report

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>>12382717
1 term

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 04:35:33 No.12384552 Report

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>>12382929

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 06:21:16 No.12384745 Report

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>>12384227
>Life thrived 200-500 million years ago in 1000+ ppm
>Therefore life now, which is evolved over the last few hundred thousand years in a low carbon environment must thrive too LMAO
The isn't whether humanity can handle more carbon in the atmosphere, the issue is whether our industrial farming systems can

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 07:03:43 No.12384799 Report

Quoted By: >>12385494 >>12385495

>>12384745
Carbon in itself isn't the problem, it's the heat/droughts/fire that comes with it that's going to hammer the crop yields.
It's started already, and the '30s will see a huge acceleration when the pic's two 800 lbs gorillas will stall instead of removing CO2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 13:49:46 No.12385405 Report

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>>12382642
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 14:35:08 No.12385487 Report

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>>12382929
>Look at the chart.
That assumes other countries do not lie. And we know they lie. The Swiss atmospheric observatory have caught Italy and China red handed already. And both denied it, of course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 14:38:20 No.12385494 Report

Quoted By: >>12385518

>>12384799
>12 more years then dramatic climatocalypse tipping point action
Your kin have been shouting about this since the 1960s, 100% of their predictions have been wrong.
Why is this time different?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 14:38:29 No.12385495 Report

Quoted By: >>12385506

>>12384799
Oceans cover 70% of the Earth, who so slow oceanic carbon cycle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 14:39:25 No.12385500 Report

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Why don't we just generate electricity from poo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 14:40:38 No.12385506 Report

Quoted By: >>12385536

>>12385495
>who so slow
wtf are you stammering

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 14:42:53 No.12385514 Report

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>>12382929
The Jewnited States is starting proxy wars and directly bombing people in other continents. Get real.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 14:46:19 No.12385518 Report

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>>12385494
>predictions have been
on the spot
Models from 1982 predicted 2019 accurately.
Big oil knew exactly what it was doing.
https://youtu.be/FGVW9vJ773k

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Nov 2020 14:54:50 No.12385536 Report

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>>12385506
Obviously I meant "why". It was a typo, anon, a typo.

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