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Is mathematics invented or discovered?

Anonymous Fri 13 Nov 15:25:39 2020 No.12337383 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12337392 >>12337693 >>12337969 >>12339410

Let's settle this debate once and forever.
>Arguments for discovery: our universe that we've described in mathematical formulas and it's laws
>Arguments for invention: imagine if the extraterrestrial beings come to the Earth? Do they understand our mathematics and laws
Discuss

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Anonymous Fri 13 Nov 2020 15:29:22 No.12337392 Report

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>>12337383
2 hydrogen atoms became 1 helium atom before humans ever existed. There's a sociologically-defined math and a universally-present math. 1+1=2 throughout time and space and we just discovered and rediscovered it over time

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Anonymous Fri 13 Nov 2020 15:33:16 No.12337404 Report

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it's an apparent problem. Math as a language is of course invented. Law of physics are discovered because they existed before man. So we can say it's both discovered and then invented a language to express what was discovered because it would be impossible to understand each other with natural language

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Anonymous Fri 13 Nov 2020 17:16:34 No.12337683 Report

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Axioms are invented and the logical implications of those axioms are discovered.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Nov 2020 17:21:01 No.12337693 Report

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>>12337383
>Invented vs discovered
What's the difference?

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Anonymous Fri 13 Nov 2020 18:36:54 No.12337969 Report

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>>12337383
Invented.
>but math relationships exist outside of humans
Yes, so do linguistic relationships and we aren't saying English was discovered. It's a way to describe the world.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Nov 2020 20:50:31 No.12338381 Report

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Yeah but some linguistic relationships are kind of discovered, like how zipfs law applies to pretty much every language

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Anonymous Sat 14 Nov 2020 02:28:53 No.12339410 Report

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Languages are a bit of a middle ground. For example, plants themselves existed way before us but the concept and word plant is an invention to describe, communicate and think about plants. Same happens with physical laws..

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