>>12296154>Take one look at /gif/ and tell me nofap is bullshit. What about /gif/? Also, /gif/ is going to be a nonrepresentational sample of people who masturbate or watch porn, certainly.
>The problem with noporn is that you probably wont have willpower to not look at porn once you start fapping if you are preconditioned to it alreadyThere are plenty of people who do not look at porn and still masturbate, I thought. Noporn just seems like removing the habit of watching porn which sounds easy enough if you block it. Also, why would you want to stop watching porn?
>>12296209You can break operant conditioning with watching porn, most assuredly incomparably easier than you can with heroin addicts and heroin. But wouldn't it be classical condition to have urges to watch porn once you start fapping because they occur together or something?
>>12296187I know I don't have anything better to do. What's wrong with that? There's nothing I would rather do.
>>12296193I could see how there could be problems with masturbating too much or watching porn for too much time, but how could there be an addiction, exactly?
>>12296277>quitting just porn and not fap will probably be harder for most peoplePerhaps, but why would you want to do either? I still wouldn't think it would be that hard unless you don't understand masturbating to fantasies or what have you.
>The only reason we dont view porn in the same is because its relativly new and also useful for pacifying populationHow do you know that's "the only reason" and how do you know it's useful for pacifying the population?
>>12296284>Because if you are going to let yourself fap, the reasons to stop yourself from watching porn will be pretty weakThat's not what he was saying, though, and if you are doing noporn yesfap, you're not "let[ting] yourself fap" as if it is abnormal, so that reason fails.
