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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 23:19:23 2020 No.12280433 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12280556 >>12280629 >>12280779 >>12281943 >>12281985 >>12282728 >>12284520 >>12285060 >>12286034 >>12286457 >>12286484 >>12286743

Who is the greatest contemporary physicist? Is it Penrose?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 00:01:09 No.12280556 Report

Quoted By: >>12280746 >>12280763

>>12280433
Witten and that middle eastern fella with long hair whose name I can't recall right now

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 00:26:52 No.12280623 Report

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He came to our university a few years ago, pretty cool guy

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 00:28:30 No.12280629 Report

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>>12280433
It was hawking
F

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 00:36:30 No.12280661 Report

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>>12280629
Hawking is a meme

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 00:56:53 No.12280746 Report

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>>12280556
>Witten
That's a mathematician.
>>12280629
>Hawking
That's an astronomer

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 01:01:15 No.12280763 Report

Quoted By: >>12280973 >>12281208

my votes are
1) Steven Weinberg
2) Gerard ‘t Hooft
3) Edward Witten
4) Cumrun Vafa
5) Roger Penrose

>>12280556
you mean Nima Arkani-Hamed? he’s cool but i haven’t seen his work enjoy much success. ADD basically got debunked and his amplituhedron/polytope stuff doesn’t seem to really have materialized yet

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 01:05:21 No.12280779 Report

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>>12280433
>contemporary physicist
>Penrose
his most notable work was done in the 70's.
there's plenty of other people who did work around the same time and then died.
just because he still happens to be alive(and good for him) doesn't make him a great contemporary physicist(emphasis on contemporary).

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 01:07:10 No.12280787 Report

Quoted By: >>12281111 >>12285989 >>12287933

Sean Carroll, obviously

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 01:08:03 No.12280793 Report

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>>12280779
>t. the ghost of Steven Gubser

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 01:09:58 No.12280801 Report

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Eric Weinstein, didn't you see the JRE episode where he BTFO'd Einstein and Dirac?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 01:16:06 No.12280819 Report

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>>12280746
The man was an astrophysicist

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 01:18:02 No.12280828 Report

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>>12280779
Yeah, you're right. I'm new to physics so I'm not familiar with all the big names.

Also, what do you guys think of string theory? Cutting edge or unfalsifiable abstraction?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 01:27:47 No.12280872 Report

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>>12280828
>unfalsifiable abstraction
no, it's clearly falsifiable. and almost certainly is false. Absolutely zero empirical basis.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 01:30:06 No.12280883 Report

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>>12280819
That's an unfalsifiable claim

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 01:31:15 No.12280886 Report

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>>12280872
Then what went wrong for it to be promoted so heavily?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 01:32:35 No.12280890 Report

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>>12280886
Theoretical physics reached a dead-end, and modern academic set in, where it's more what institution you work at and how elegant appearing your papers are, rather than is that shit actually true.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 01:32:55 No.12280891 Report

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The future members of secret academia and me

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 01:59:55 No.12280973 Report

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>>12280763
>Steven Weinberg
>Gerard 't Hooft
>Edward Witten
>Cumrun Vafa
>Roger Penrose
All of these are mathematicians, not physicists.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 02:19:51 No.12281033 Report

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>>12280973
is that what sabine told you?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 02:23:49 No.12281044 Report

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The interesting thing about this guy is that he is actively at war with mainstream cosmology. Is he deranged, or is everyone else? Only time can tell.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 02:32:52 No.12281070 Report

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It was Dimebag Darryl
F

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 02:32:54 No.12281071 Report

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>>12281044
my understanding was that Penrose's ideas on cosmology ("conformal cyclic cosmology") aren't directly at odds with anything in the LambdaCDM model. his ideas, as far as i can tell, are more just of an "interpretation" of cosmology and the implications of the very late future of a cold heat death. correct me if i'm wrong, though.

if you want somebody who is at war with mainstream cosmology, look at a fellow Nobel winner: Bob Laughlin
https://youtu.be/beQ9fZ0jVdE

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 02:46:40 No.12281111 Report

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>>12280787

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 02:49:57 No.12281119 Report

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>>12281033
? no

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 02:57:06 No.12281137 Report

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>>12281111
checked and based

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 03:30:45 No.12281208 Report

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>>12280763
>Cumrun vafa
>Cumrun
Kek

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 04:16:52 No.12281291 Report

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>>12281070
rip

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 04:21:00 No.12281297 Report

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kitaev

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 04:22:36 No.12281299 Report

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>>12281297
seems like SYK turned into JT gravity like a few years ago. he tried to do HEP but he got beat by the pros

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 04:27:08 No.12281307 Report

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>>12281070
RIP Dime. Guitarist. Philosopher. Physicist. Pioneer. Legend.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 04:29:45 No.12281309 Report

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>>12281070
redpill me on this guy. i apparently missed out

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 04:56:37 No.12281356 Report

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>>12281309
Awesome metal guitarist who founded the band Pantera with his brother who played drums.
Eventually they left the band over a falling out with the lead singer.
Started another band, Damage Plan.
Ultimately was shot to death on stage by a scziophrenic fan. Buried with one of Van Halen's guitars in the casket.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 11:03:14 No.12281835 Report

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>>12281356
lol hedonists always deserve to be miserable

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 11:07:06 No.12281837 Report

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>>12281835
?
>musician killed by nutcase
>totally deserved it!

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 11:12:00 No.12281843 Report

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>>12281837
yes

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 11:15:02 No.12281850 Report

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>>12281843
ah, ok
you're either a jackass or you play one on the internet.
own it, or pretend to own it, don't expect to get taken seriously.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 12:06:42 No.12281943 Report

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>>12280661
>>12280746
>>12280973
>>12280890

Brainlets who lick Woit's dick & Sabine's pussy detected. Keep seething, faggots.

>>12280433
In the fundamental area, Witten (quantity) and Maldacena (quality). I don't know about applied fields.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 12:11:10 No.12281949 Report

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Guarantee its a list you’ve never heard of in USA, China, Russia working on things you’ve never imagined with means beyond any conceived. All hushity hush and toppity secret classidy classified blackity black sited of course.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 12:12:23 No.12281953 Report

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>>12280828
String theory is the extremely mainstream theory in the fundamental area such as high-energy physics and cosmology. Don't listen the stupid fag like >>12280872. This board is just a piece of brain-dead shit, those who can't even understand high-school level math. This is why modern society is fucking cringe. Stupid people who drop out the single-variable calculus class talk about string theory. KEK

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 12:17:58 No.12281959 Report

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>>12281953
>This board is just a piece of brain-dead shit, those who can't even understand high-school level math.

ahem... you’re here too. but oh i suppose you’re excluded with your big big brain

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 12:22:42 No.12281966 Report

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>>12281959
At least I don't contempt what I don't understand well. Look at this board. Brainlet fags always keep pooping shits like 'hurr durr string theory bad! muh experiment!'. This fucktards have nothing but just the huge ego and arrogance.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 12:35:48 No.12281985 Report

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>>12280433
too bad the guy has gone batshit crazy trying to explain consciousness with quantum gravity effects in microtubules

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 12:40:43 No.12281995 Report

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 12:42:37 No.12281999 Report

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>>12281995
This. Lenny is based

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 12:46:36 No.12282010 Report

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>>12281071
>Penrose's ideas on cosmology ("conformal cyclic cosmology") aren't directly at odds with anything in the LambdaCDM model
Nah, they are bonkers theoretically

>if you want somebody who is at war with mainstream cosmology, look at a fellow Nobel winner: Bob Laughlin
what an awkward video, especially to bits with only the students.
watching gross seethe anytime laughlin says anything is surprisingly satisfying though

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 12:52:11 No.12282021 Report

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>>12281999
I will be very sad when he’s gone. He’s got the right spirit, something just makes you respect him.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 16:42:43 No.12282573 Report

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>>12281966
So can it be experimentally tested?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 17:32:50 No.12282711 Report

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>>12282573
in principle? sure
in reality limited by our engineering capacity? no

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2020 17:38:47 No.12282728 Report

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>>12280433
Elon Musk

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 01:49:34 No.12284520 Report

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>>12280433
Alexi Kitaev

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 01:50:06 No.12284521 Report

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Me once I finish my undergrad

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 02:01:19 No.12284544 Report

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>greatest contemporary physicist
Markus P. Mueller
>inb4 >t. shill
just look at his ARXIV for proof:
https://arxiv.org/abs/1712.01826
https://arxiv.org/abs/2008.09821
https://arxiv.org/abs/1901.11412

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 05:13:16 No.12285040 Report

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>>12282711
Will we ever have the engineering capacity to test it?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 05:25:52 No.12285060 Report

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>>12280433
Lee Smolin.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 05:44:42 No.12285092 Report

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>>12285060
>Lee Smolin (/?smo?lJn/; born June 6, 1955) is an American theoretical physicist, a faculty member at the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics, an adjunct professor of physics at the University of Waterloo and a member of the graduate faculty of the philosophy department at the University of Toronto. Smolin's 2006 book The Trouble with Physics criticized string theory as a viable scientific theory.
>The Trouble with Physics: The Rise of String Theory, the Fall of a Science, and What Comes Next is a 2006 book by the theoretical physicist Lee Smolin about the problems with string theory. The book strongly criticizes string theory and its prominence in contemporary theoretical physics, on the grounds that string theory has yet to come up with a single prediction that can be verified using any technology that is likely to be feasible within our lifetimes.
I haven't seen any defender of string theory sufficiently respond to these pointed out flaws so I'm inclined to side with the anti-string theorists.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 05:49:03 No.12285101 Report

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>>12285092
I'm also a huge fan of his theory that the our universe is inside a black hole, and the pre-big-bang matter was the formation of a singularity that pushes so hard inwards it expands space, time, gravity, and best of all, that expansion causing particles to form by virtue of fighting against itself in n dimensions

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 05:50:28 No.12285103 Report

Quoted By: >>12285145

>>12285092
> I haven't seen any defender of string theory sufficiently respond to these pointed out flaws
which flaws?

smolin is a hack, also he dedicated a passage in that book to praise epstein, also he has ruined Jacob Barnett’s career by keeping him on to year 9 as his supervisor. so as far as i know he is a terrible physicist, like basically the worst anyone could name

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 06:16:42 No.12285145 Report

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>>12285103
>which flaws
The same accusation that's always thrown out when string theory comes up: that it can't be tested. I've found no real counter to this.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 14:26:26 No.12285952 Report

Quoted By: >>12285979

Idk but i like listening to Frank the most:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuAJ5Opdp5k

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 14:38:26 No.12285979 Report

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>>12285952
don't agree with him on SUSY, but man his voice is as smooth as a top notch vodka

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 14:42:07 No.12285989 Report

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>>12280787
how?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 15:01:44 No.12286034 Report

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>>12280433
Eric Weinstein

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 17:13:19 No.12286457 Report

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>>12280433
Mike McCulloch. Doing science that could actually revolutionize some fields of engineering.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 17:17:22 No.12286484 Report

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>>12280433
Me

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 17:27:59 No.12286535 Report

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String Theory is basically something like Weyl symmetry was back in the day. So beautiful it forces you to think it must be correct, but it is ultimately punishingly wrong and universe doesn't give a fuck about beauty in math.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 17:28:10 No.12286537 Report

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>>12286457
>quantized inertia

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 17:48:38 No.12286625 Report

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>>12286537
>dark matter believer

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 17:52:37 No.12286645 Report

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>>12286625
hit and miss buddy

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2020 18:15:50 No.12286743 Report

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>>12280433
No. Its me.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2020 00:42:31 No.12287933 Report

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>>12280787
kys reddit fag – Sean Carroll is also a brainwashed liberal cuck.

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