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Axiomatize Physics

Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 11:08:17 2020 No.12238082 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12238338 >>12238361 >>12238644 >>12240919 >>12242962 >>12243086 >>12243526

LETS FUCKING GOOOO FAGGOTS. LETS FUCKING DO THIS FUCK YEAA YEAAA YEAAAAAAAA.
>this ain't no joke lets go fuckers

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2020 11:17:06 No.12238107 Report

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I feel like statistical mechanics is a good place to start, we already have axiomatized probability theory so we can maybe start with boltzman distribuitions and go from there until we can develop the concept of temperature, by then we will already have developed a set of axioms for collections of particles with a set size, then we'll just have to fit bits and pieces until we get to the already established axioms in qm.

However, I've got no fucking clue how to fit relativity in the whole picture since all that shit's pretty negligible on small scales, lets go bros we can do this lets go lets go faggots

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2020 13:11:18 No.12238338 Report

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>>12238082
>axiomatizing an empirical field

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2020 13:25:38 No.12238361 Report

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>>12238082
There's already the Wightman's axiom on QFT, but it doesn't reflect physicist's view on QFT now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2020 14:39:41 No.12238574 Report

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>the proof is left to god

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2020 14:47:36 No.12238601 Report

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love is the only axiom you need

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2020 14:54:59 No.12238628 Report

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>>12238601
based

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2020 14:59:45 No.12238644 Report

Quoted By: >>12239750 >>12240515

>>12238082
>LETS FUCKING GOOOO
ok nigga where

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2020 21:05:04 No.12239750 Report

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>>12238644
Well it would be nice if someone could contribute to the discussion

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2020 21:11:34 No.12239780 Report

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>>12239750
well then suggest something that can be considered an axiome in physics, oh wait, you fucking cant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2020 21:38:42 No.12239877 Report

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>>12238574
Based
I really want to try writing that next down the professor tries to push everything he couldn't do in the lecture onto the homework to derive for yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2020 21:53:53 No.12239935 Report

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What about the conservation of energy as an axiom?

t. not a physicist

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2020 22:03:06 No.12239991 Report

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>>12239935
>What about the conservation of energy as an axiom?
Energy isn't conserved in general. For example in general relativity or in open systems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2020 22:11:04 No.12240051 Report

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>>12239877
My undergrad calc prof used to do this all the time and for the first few lectures I used to actually do them expecting he would take them up next class, quickly realized what really happened is he had dug himself a hole and didn't feel like being wrong in front of the class so he'd babble something about it being trivial and you should figure it out on your own time. Bunch of fucking nonsense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2020 00:08:24 No.12240495 Report

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>>12239780
The least action principle holds up pretty well applied to any current model

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2020 00:15:26 No.12240511 Report

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>>12240495
The thing with physics is that its all bits and pieces because of the shit ton of approximations me make which change in every branch, while an electron's charge is negligible in a classical mechanics problem it's crucial in E&M. I think we must first axiomatize classical physics and both g/s relativity, we might be able to tie up the ends with qft. While this wouldn't be a toe, it could very well become a sensible way to approach any and all physical models

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Based Negroid Sat 17 Oct 2020 00:18:11 No.12240515 Report

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>>12238644
in your mom

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2020 00:34:20 No.12240560 Report

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>>12239780
Physics is what we use to describe reality. There's not just one set of axioms, people actually propose different set of axioms to describe their observations of reality, some clashing with others.
One widely accepted axiom is that spacetime exists, that is, 4 dimensions seem to exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2020 03:28:07 No.12240919 Report

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>>12238082
>Axiomise a fractal whose pattern isn't deterministic

Based retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2020 10:09:19 No.12241636 Report

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>>12238338
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2020 10:12:15 No.12241641 Report

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>>12238601
this

.t PhD in physics (with a minor in love)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2020 21:00:49 No.12242905 Report

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>>12240919
>axiomatize a fractal whose pattern isn't deterministic

Fucking seethe, it not like you can't establish basic underlying all encompassing axioms that can say shit about how it could evolve in time

>>12241641
Incredibly based and love pilled

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2020 21:15:43 No.12242962 Report

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>>12238082
This is Hilbert's sixth problem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert%27s_sixth_problem

2018 Theme issue on ‘Hilbert's sixth problem’: https://royalsocietypublishing.org/toc/rsta/376/2118

See also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wightman_axioms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_quantum_field_theory

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2020 21:41:43 No.12243041 Report

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>>12242905
>it not like you can't establish basic underlying all encompassing axioms

Please, do go on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2020 21:55:50 No.12243086 Report

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>>12238082
How about this as a start?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twistor_theory#:~:text=In%20theoretical%20physics%2C%20twistor%20theory,space-time%20itself%20should%20emerge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2020 00:19:05 No.12243526 Report

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>>12238082
Isn't that like field theory or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2020 13:02:32 No.12245288 Report

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is the axiom of statistical thermodynamics that all microstates are equally likely valid?

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