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Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 08:15:08 2020 No.12225794 View Reply Original Report

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Why are humans the only species that commits suicide?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 08:18:03 No.12225806 Report

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We are capable of understanding the futility of everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 08:19:16 No.12225815 Report

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>>12225794
Technically whales do suicide by stranding themselves on land.
Your question is invalid, next.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 08:20:20 No.12225822 Report

Quoted By: >>12225825 >>12225845

Animals are not sentient and do not understand their mortality or even death as a concept.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 08:21:02 No.12225825 Report

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>>12225822
objectively not true

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 08:28:04 No.12225845 Report

Quoted By: >>12225930 >>12226910

>>12225822
Animals do have sentience, what they lack is our level of consciousness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 08:28:27 No.12225848 Report

Quoted By: >>12225893 >>12226334 >>12229983

>>12225815
They don't do so intentionally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 08:31:12 No.12225857 Report

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>>12225794
We're not though. Plenty of animals commit suicide. Insects commit suicide in defense of the hive. Parasites drive animals to commit suicide. Suicide as we view it is on a case-by-case basis but there have been definitely been reports of animals committing suicide.
>OP is a retard

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Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 08:34:04 No.12225863 Report

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>>12225794
bubba-monkeys do too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 08:44:58 No.12225893 Report

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>>12225848
No, must've been the wind then

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Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 09:00:32 No.12225924 Report

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>>12225794
Becuase we are the most efficient species and unproductive members are fucked, despite all our pretensions to poetry and beauty and soul.
Note even rich degenerate fags can be productive, if nothing else by consuming others production vis their parents stored value of other peoples productions. That’s why people who are busy rarely commit suicide. It’s the ones that can’t even bother to do that do.
Miserable people with purpose muddling through don’t commit suicide

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 09:02:19 No.12225930 Report

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>>12225845
even other humans lack certain degrees of consciousness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 09:31:13 No.12225996 Report

Quoted By: >>12226018

>>12225924
Japan is a workaholic country and suicide is a major trouble there.
It's not about being busy, it's about finding meaning in your life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 09:42:41 No.12226018 Report

Quoted By: >>12226039 >>12226042 >>12226109

>>12225996
The ones in the system don’t commit suicide. It’s the unemployed in japan That commit suicide, not the overworked salaryman,
> 59.3% of Japanese suicide victims were in the broad "Not Employed" category
>the void experienced after being forced to retire from the workplace is said to be partly responsible for the large number of elderly suicides every year
> losing a job or financial pressure also caused a lot
The last point reforces my point, if they are not being efficient they commit suicide,

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 09:53:01 No.12226039 Report

Quoted By: >>12226081

>>12226018
Huh?
>A contributing factor to the suicide statistics among those who were employed was the increasing pressure of retaining jobs by putting in more hours of overtime and taking fewer holidays and sick days. According to government figures, "fatigue from work" and health problems, including work-related depression, were prime motives for suicides, adversely affecting the social wellbeing of salarymen and accounting for 47 percent of the suicides in 2008

Suicide out of poverty is normal. But we're talking about a full blown half of suicides to be from overworked people

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Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 09:54:26 No.12226042 Report

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>>12225924
>>12226018
Oh, and let us not forget the student suicide in S.Korea

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 10:14:55 No.12226081 Report

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>>12226039
They probably commit suicide from keeping up the appearance of being overworked. Japan work culture is extremely inefficient

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 10:17:45 No.12226089 Report

Quoted By: >>12226096 >>12226144

>>12226081
It's literally a trend called Karoshi

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 10:22:29 No.12226096 Report

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>>12226089
Yeah sleeping at your desk and taking 10 hours to do what takes say a German worker 1 hour is super hard work.

I'd kill myself too if this was my pathetic, useless existence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 10:22:55 No.12226097 Report

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>>12225863
Please, most bubbas wouldn't dare hold a scary black gun

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 10:33:35 No.12226109 Report

Quoted By: >>12226133

>>12226018
>killing yourself in your retirement
>have the richest retirement in the entire human history and highest standard of living

hooly fucking shit what cucks

this is like donating your house to the guy you catch fucking your wife after he's been doing it for 20 years and you've been paying the mortgage.

>>>void left by work
>void

its like they don't even understand living...

my entire reason for working is so that I don't have to work at some point, fuck I work specifically in AI and eventually will have automated my entire life, down to ordering hookers and opening the door to allow them in to perform fellatio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 10:33:40 No.12226110 Report

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>>12225794
>Why are humans the only species that commits suicide?
Wrrong!

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Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 10:43:40 No.12226133 Report

Quoted By: >>12226157 >>12229745

>>12226109
>my entire reason for working is so that I don't have to work at some point,
That’s what everyone says but retirement is the number one killer t. Bills brother

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 10:44:54 No.12226136 Report

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>>12225794
Dolphins do

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 10:48:22 No.12226144 Report

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>>12226089
karoshi is not suicide its aneurism or cardiac arrest i think

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 10:55:36 No.12226157 Report

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>>12226133
at this point I spend more than 80% of my active work day "in retirement"

the remaining 20% where I actually am doing stuff in a panic worrying that i'll get fired/caught is a constant source of pain.

maybe retirement would suck if you were poor...

but these fucking pieces of shit have rigged it to the point that their homes are worth 50x what the paid and they could rent a room out and have enough for dozens of prime escorts a month

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 10:55:59 No.12226158 Report

Quoted By: >>12226296 >>12230357

>>12225857
>Insects commit suicide in defense of the hive
to be fair in the case of bees it's more like an instinct rather than a premeditated action that goes strictly against their evolutionary best interest
>Parasites drive animals to commit suicide
same as above
>OP is a retard
you're a disingenuous retard that intentionally misconstrued his question. you bring the quality of this board down, kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 12:04:17 No.12226289 Report

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Suicide is a natural part of life. See apoptosis in cells. You can project this view onto social animals. There arent any solitary animals that commit suicide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 12:06:08 No.12226296 Report

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>>12226158
>Asks if animals can commit suicide
>Doesn't exclude autothysis
>gets mad when autothysis is given as an example
You're also ignoring my third point. If you want a specific answer ask a specific question faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 12:33:49 No.12226334 Report

Quoted By: >>12229983

>>12225848
how do you know?

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Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 16:00:53 No.12226790 Report

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>>12225794
Are humans the only species that experience depression and anxiety?
Probably not.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 16:38:52 No.12226901 Report

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the frontal lobe development was a mistake, those few millimeters are the reason you are still not happy even though you have food, water and shelter. an orangutan never complained about existential dread or what career to choose

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Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 16:42:59 No.12226910 Report

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>>12225845
Animals have sentience, are conscious (nigger, how the fuck would they be unconscious, they move around), at least mammals and birds are capable of learning and have emotions, they just don't understand their own mortality. Animals are like 3 year old kids.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 16:47:43 No.12226916 Report

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>>12225794
because we're smart and know it fucking sucks here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2020 18:11:23 No.12227188 Report

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penguin walking towards the mountains.webm

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 03:59:42 No.12229076 Report

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>>12225794
dolphins in early captive research settings were known to drown themselves or beat themselves against walls

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 04:08:27 No.12229109 Report

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>>12225794
because we're the only ones in an environment that we didn't evolve in. how many protohumans killed themselves. how many african tribesmen kill themselves

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 04:31:20 No.12229193 Report

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>>12225794
We plan ahead and decide to opt out.
Plenty of animals stop taking care of themselves when depressed. That's a slow form of self-destruction a ton of humans engage in. Might even be the majority of the population.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 05:41:31 No.12229380 Report

Quoted By: >>12229705

>>12225794
Not only do humans kill themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBk9lLFWGcI

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 07:50:14 No.12229705 Report

Quoted By: >>12230134

>>12229380
I hate this video more than anything. It's one of the darkest videos I've ever seen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 08:02:40 No.12229739 Report

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>>12225825
sauce

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 08:05:42 No.12229745 Report

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>>12226133
>my entire reason for working is so that I don't have to work at some point

enjoy your life while you're young don't wait to be old who knows what will happens, plus when ur old you could be alive but be fucking defective and ill so dont be a retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 09:49:24 No.12229983 Report

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>>12225848
Not OR but...
>>12226334
>>12225893
These guys are joking right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 10:48:23 No.12230098 Report

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>>12225893
There is no wind underwater silly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 11:01:41 No.12230134 Report

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>>12229705
It's amazing and inspiring. He's so determined.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2020 12:27:14 No.12230357 Report

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>>12226158
>why don't animals [x]
>ah, but animals [x], here's an example
>no, that's not [x], that's just an instinct!
every time

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