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Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 15:37:06 2020 No.12178091 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12178104 >>12178106 >>12178119 >>12178245 >>12178253 >>12178256 >>12179231 >>12179327 >>12179486

Why do we lock people up for murder if free will isnt real?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2020 15:39:21 No.12178097 Report

Quoted By: >>12178243 >>12179327

Because we also don't have free will

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2020 15:39:58 No.12178099 Report

Quoted By: >>12179327

because they will probably do it again due to their violent genes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2020 15:41:16 No.12178104 Report

Quoted By: >>12179327

>>12178091
Because societies with lots of murders aren't very successful and thus don't propagate in to the future and because despite not having free will, people are afraid to do things that will anger power against them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2020 15:41:22 No.12178106 Report

Quoted By: >>12178116 >>12179327

>>12178091
Because a deterrent can still change outcomes whether you are deterministic or not. Maybe you'll commit one murder with deterrent, but 3 without.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2020 15:45:17 No.12178116 Report

Quoted By: >>12179327

>>12178106
>Because a deterrent can still change outcomes whether you are deterministic or not.
not only that, the stronger any kind of quantum RNG factor affecting human behavior is, the less influence deterrents have

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2020 15:46:03 No.12178119 Report

Quoted By: >>12179327

>>12178091
>implying we have a choice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2020 15:53:47 No.12178135 Report

Quoted By: >>12179327

So that they are safe and other people are safe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2020 16:38:32 No.12178243 Report

Quoted By: >>12179327

>>12178097
asking a question such as "why do humans do X when Y" is retarded if you're asserting we have no free will.
question does not make sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2020 16:39:02 No.12178245 Report

Quoted By: >>12179327

>>12178091
If free will isn't real, then how come pssst...

It's free real estate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2020 16:40:22 No.12178253 Report

Quoted By: >>12179327

>>12178091
Why do people think this is a good argument against determinism?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2020 16:41:09 No.12178256 Report

Quoted By: >>12179327

>>12178091
I had no choice but to imprison them, it was my predetermined path

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2020 21:12:54 No.12179231 Report

Quoted By: >>12179327

>>12178091
Why not? It doesn't make a difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2020 21:23:45 No.12179271 Report

Quoted By: >>12179305 >>12179327

We have free will. Only retards think otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2020 21:30:43 No.12179305 Report

Quoted By: >>12179327

>>12179271
Why do you think so anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2020 21:35:23 No.12179327 Report

Quoted By: >>12179331 >>12179461

>>12178091
>>12178097
>>12178099
>>12178104
>>12178106
>>12178116
>>12178119
>>12178135
>>12178243
>>12178245
>>12178253
>>12178256
>>12179231
>>12179271
>>12179305
Sasuke should have lost to Danzo, scientifically speaking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2020 21:36:29 No.12179331 Report

Quoted By: >>12179400 >>12179461

>>12179327
100% agree, how the fuck did Danzo lose?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2020 21:50:25 No.12179400 Report

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>>12179331
Plot points

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2020 22:08:21 No.12179461 Report

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>>12179327
>>12179331
Hank would have fucked either or both of them up. He would bring the pro-pain

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2020 22:13:59 No.12179486 Report

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>>12178091
because we're predetermined to do it. easy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 01:11:09 No.12180044 Report

Quoted By: >>12180811

When you are dealt a deck of cards, you don't know the outcome, but you know the rules, that's what makes it an interesting game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2020 04:58:40 No.12180811 Report

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>>12180044
and you can get fucked over by having the shittiest deck out of everyone else. how fun!

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