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Could the environment perpetually exist, if had humans never interfered?

Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 09:32:28 2020 No.12158823 View Reply Original Report

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Lets say we don't account for the possibility that natural selecting brings forth a new human like species
>aliens can't be evolved that make civilizations ect.

How much longer would life on a pre-human world exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 09:38:00 No.12158834 Report

Quoted By: >>12158838

Humans are just another animal species.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 09:39:48 No.12158838 Report

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>>12158834
OK, I never denied that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 09:42:28 No.12158844 Report

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>>12158823
This post reads like it was written by someone who thinks humans aren't animals

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 09:42:31 No.12158845 Report

Quoted By: >>12159764

Life has been around 4 billion years so its fairly taciturn. The biggest challenge is of course the climate, if it gets too cold, say an ice age is too expansive it can reach a tipping point where the albedo is so high it will reflect most of the energy back into space. On the opposite end you have the Venus scenario.

On climate stable worlds like Earth you can resonably expect something like humans to eventually emerge. If they dont, life just goes on until the above happens.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 09:43:02 No.12158847 Report

Quoted By: >>12158850

Humans have and always had zero impact on the state of the Earth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 09:43:40 No.12158848 Report

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>>12158844
Humans are definitely animals but sentience is such a game changer we are definitely justified in putting ourselves in a separate category.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 09:44:42 No.12158850 Report

Quoted By: >>12161833

>>12158847
You have to be a genuine retard to claim this.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 09:45:46 No.12158854 Report

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>>12158848
I dunno dude it really seems like u think humans aren't animals

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 09:46:48 No.12158857 Report

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>>12158823
barring any rare catastrophic event that totally blasts the place, about 800 million - 1.2 billion years for the current sort of stuff you see outside, after that carbon dioxide levels are too low for C4 photosynthesis and plants start dying out and bigger organisms go with them
couple more hundred million years after that and eukaryotes will probably be gone, but prokaryotes can hang on for a lot longer underground and such and they should last until about 3.8 billion years
after that shits fucking dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 09:52:16 No.12158867 Report

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>>12158854
This guy is clearly trolling, OP.

Obviously OP is referring to technology-related pollution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 12:36:32 No.12159191 Report

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>>12158823
It would be uproariously violent. Eventually creatures would either evolve a biological thermal combustion chamber or become sentient. However if violence weren't an issue, then it would last a good while, before losing all energy to cosmic radiation or the sun blows out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 13:01:30 No.12159266 Report

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There have been many mass extinction events before, but life has always pulled through. This might be sampling bias, though I suppose it means something that we haven't seen life completely extinguished followed by an independent development of life.

Ultimately, unless somebody intervenes, the sun will warm up enough to roast the Earth. This should take a few billion years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 15:19:52 No.12159594 Report

Quoted By: >>12159817

>>12158823
It would exist forever
t. Aristotle

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Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 16:01:02 No.12159745 Report

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>>12158823
Comets, asteroids, Vulcanos

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 16:06:07 No.12159764 Report

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>>12158845
It was some kind of cyanobacteria that brapped hard enough to go from the snowball Earth to one that had liquid water again.
So more or less the same as it was 5 million years before some chimps decided that throwing rocks was useful to get their food. Until the Sun starts dying of course, then massive changes would emerge.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 16:11:01 No.12159783 Report

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>>12158823
Couldn't you just run through that fire? wtf it's like 20 feet

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 16:21:35 No.12159817 Report

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>>12159594
this.
but i doubt humans are having a positive effect on its longevity.
entropy and all...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 16:51:31 No.12159900 Report

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>>12158823
well another intelligent species would have existed and destroyed the environment

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Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 21:45:32 No.12161223 Report

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>>12158823
>Perpetually
No chance lol the sun will fucking destroy the earth one day

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Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 21:46:53 No.12161231 Report

Quoted By: >>12161240

>>12158823
>implying the environment deserves to exist

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Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 21:48:46 No.12161238 Report

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>>12158823
you do realize the environment is still a thing even without trees and and all that gay hippie shit right? the environment is a surrounding, it will be a thing till the end of time. even when swallowed up by a black hole it will be the environment, just that of a black hole.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 21:49:03 No.12161240 Report

Quoted By: >>12161253 >>12161789

>>12161231
Why do you hate the environment?

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Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 21:51:09 No.12161253 Report

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>>12161240
>annoying bugs
>smelly creatures
>disease
>scorching sunlight
>uncomfortable temperature
i can go on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2020 22:13:59 No.12161367 Report

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>>12161238
autist, you know what he means

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Anonymous Sat 26 Sep 2020 00:07:51 No.12161659 Report

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>>12158823
No, there's a beginning and there's an end.

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Anonymous Sat 26 Sep 2020 00:48:01 No.12161781 Report

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>>12158848
>sentience is such a game changer
Don't confuse sentience with sapience.
A jelly fish is sentient.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Sep 2020 00:51:17 No.12161789 Report

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>>12161240
>be me in college
>environmental biology class
>our school has a bunch of land that they're using for tall grass prairie reclamation
>get to be friends with the professor
>he invites me to go out and work with him on it
>five minutes into trying to help heal the native ecology I get attacked by a swarm of bees and have to be taken to an emergency clinic because I was swelling up like a balloon
Nature can go fuck itself

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Sep 2020 00:56:13 No.12161808 Report

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True entropy cannot exist as cocklust will always remain a motive force for OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Sep 2020 01:00:57 No.12161833 Report

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>>12158850
George Carlin had a pretty good bit about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c

Humans are savage.

Humans are savage. Sat 26 Sep 2020 01:58:45 No.12162047 Report

Quoted By: >>12162179

Life doesn't always find a way. Earth is one of millions we k me of that can actually sustain life. Life is extremely precious. This is why I get mad when people act such assholes to each other.

We should understand we all get to live and enjoy each other. We should work and further the sciences and live nicely to one another.

I really wish human we're more nice and peaceful with each other. Maybe in 10000 years but we are still primitive. Just look at America or north Korea or any nation really. Why do we act like this to each other?

I have a lot of questions for God when I meet him. Too much bad shit is allowed to happen.

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Anonymous Sat 26 Sep 2020 02:06:14 No.12162072 Report

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>humans arent environmental
arent yuo lot special

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Anonymous Sat 26 Sep 2020 02:07:36 No.12162079 Report

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>>12158823
>"the environment"
Ask me how I know you aren't actually a scientist and just gobble up the mainstream meteor whole

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Sep 2020 02:46:31 No.12162179 Report

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>>12162047
Dunbar's Number. Our primitive little monkey brains have a finite amount of meaningful connections we can make with people at any given time, after a certain threshold is reached your brain just starts lumping them into a faceless mass of less important people.
Technology and civilization has allowed us to advance ourselves at a much faster race that biology just can't keep up.
If you haven't seen it yet check out these two docs from the 70's and 80's
https://youtu.be/DDrXEK4bClc
Future shock
https://youtu.be/fkUwXenBokU
and Killing America (which has an 11/10 sound track)
They're both even more relevant now in 2020.

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Anonymous Sat 26 Sep 2020 07:12:40 No.12162863 Report

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>>12158823
In about a billion years the sun will expand, heat up the oceans and earth will become as hat and deadly as Venus. Burning fossil fuels like mad can make this happen early.

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