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Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 10:06:05 2020 No.12094340 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12094894 >>12094942 >>12095075 >>12101073

A wave function collapse is nothing but a quantum particle reaching a steady state.

1v1 me on rust on this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 2020 15:17:07 No.12094894 Report

Quoted By: >>12094912 >>12095065 >>12095085 >>12095125 >>12098325

>>12094340
Copenhagen is a cope for brainlets who can’t see how “collapse” is just you being entangled with your experiment. Everett is for the enlightened.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 2020 15:27:18 No.12094912 Report

Quoted By: >>12101016

>>12094894
I'm not entangled with the experiment though. You're wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 2020 15:40:01 No.12094942 Report

Quoted By: >>12099107

>>12094340
It's the other way around - superposition is the quantum equivalent of equilibrium, and momentary collapse into a single state is the quantum equivalent of fluctuation theorem.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 2020 16:29:21 No.12095065 Report

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>>12094894
How do you derive the Born Rule, then? Because the probability of the measurement isn't just one world out of the total number of worlds, it's one world out of the total number of worlds, SQUARED.

Transactional Interpretation solves this.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 2020 16:33:29 No.12095075 Report

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>>12094340
>1v1 me on rust on this
No scope only.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 2020 16:41:36 No.12095085 Report

Quoted By: >>12095125 >>12095875 >>12097719 >>12101394

>>12094894
Exactly. Never in the history of science something was so ironically and rightfully named.
The Cope-nhagen interpretation is the biggest cope in the history of science.
Statistic is a convenient tool we invented to describe what we don't fully know, but you're a massive fool if you believe the fabric of reality is statistics.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 2020 16:56:40 No.12095125 Report

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>>12094894
>>12095085
The copenhagen interpretation is only used because it's simple and it works. Science isn't necessarily about what the nature of reality is as what you can predict about nature. These interpretations are all cope because it's just philosophy and they are probably all wrong. Everet is just a massive cope as well, not based on any kind of evidence.
>Bruuuuh the universe just kinda... splits bro...

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Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 2020 17:03:36 No.12095146 Report

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>>12095125
I know. I'm merely roasting copingfags for believing that tools for describing uncertainty are the ultimate truth.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 2020 20:51:41 No.12095817 Report

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Yes yes CS is a real study yes yes https://github.com/mxgmn/WaveFunctionCollapse hipster algorithme lol

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Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 2020 20:59:10 No.12095840 Report

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>>12095065
Transactionele handshake looks very interesting buy the wiki and .edu pages explaining it all read like a bunch of ass max electrical universe pseuds.
Any source not written by a massive sperg?

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Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 2020 21:07:18 No.12095860 Report

Quoted By: >>12098387

Preference for anything else but Copenhagen is a very quick way to identify someone who has no clue about physics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 2020 21:11:44 No.12095875 Report

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>>12095085
>The Cope-nhagen interpretation
Fucking kek

I myself prefer quantum information theories of QM interpretations.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Sep 2020 14:05:18 No.12097719 Report

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>>12095085
>Cope-nhagen

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Anonymous Tue 08 Sep 2020 17:22:56 No.12098271 Report

Quoted By: >>12098347

>this thread

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Anonymous Tue 08 Sep 2020 17:42:48 No.12098325 Report

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>>12094894
>>>/tv/

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Anonymous Tue 08 Sep 2020 17:48:16 No.12098347 Report

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>>12098271
This guy is based, can't stop laughing at his every sentence triggering the commies.
Such a shame his comment section has more schizos than Aaronson's household.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Sep 2020 18:01:36 No.12098387 Report

Quoted By: >>12100480

>>12095860
>taking observation bias into account when performing a measurement is something no true physicist should do

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Anonymous Tue 08 Sep 2020 18:08:01 No.12098404 Report

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>>12097719
Cope and hags like I like to say
But let's not state the obvious

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Sep 2020 18:38:46 No.12098520 Report

Quoted By: >>12098527 >>12098551

No its not. Steady state conditions are for the underlying wavefunctions time evolution, not for wave function collapse. Trust me, theres a 95% chance im more informed on this than you.

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Anonymous Tue 08 Sep 2020 18:40:28 No.12098527 Report

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>>12098520
There's 122.5% chance all stats on this board come from our behinds

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Anonymous Tue 08 Sep 2020 18:46:53 No.12098551 Report

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>>12098520
Since when do quantum particles change after a collapse? I'm not sure I'm following what you're saying

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Anonymous Tue 08 Sep 2020 21:24:55 No.12099107 Report

Quoted By: >>12101310

>>12094942
Can you elaborat?
I don't see the connection with the fluctuation theorem.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Sep 2020 05:31:55 No.12100480 Report

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>>12098387
>taking observation bias into account when performing a measurement is something a true physicist should do
Yes, that's what Copenhagen is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Sep 2020 09:22:56 No.12101016 Report

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>>12094912
unless you seclude yourself into an isolation chamber that doesn't let (too much) information through, then yes you are entangled with any experiment on earth.

entanglement happens as soon as the physics experiment is done here because we don't quarantine the result of the experiment.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Sep 2020 09:51:30 No.12101073 Report

Quoted By: >>12101502

>>12094340
I can interprete the wave function with a 5th spatial dimension

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Anonymous Wed 09 Sep 2020 12:11:41 No.12101310 Report

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>>12099107
Not him but probably referring the metaphor of a system not being in "thermodynamic equilibrium", i.e., superposition, as being in a collapsed state. Which then returns to equilibrium/superposition when the disturbance to the system i.e. observation is removed.

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Anonymous Wed 09 Sep 2020 13:02:10 No.12101394 Report

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>>12095085
You don't understand QM which is why you think that this idea that the uncertainty is due to our tools/measuring.
If you ACTUALLY understood the mathematics of QM, you'd understand why the fundamental randomness can not be just an artifact of our experiments/tools, but rather is intrinsic to the particles evolution.
The universe does NOT evolve deterministically. QM disproves determinism outright. It is not due to "Unknown information".

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Anonymous Wed 09 Sep 2020 14:02:32 No.12101502 Report

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>>12101073
>i can choose to be retarded
Ok, bud

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