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Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 09:39:18 2020 No.12087284 View Reply Original Report

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Which is scientifically cooler?
Fire or Electricity?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 09:44:09 No.12087296 Report

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>>12087284
the Logos/logic behind the two

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 09:47:27 No.12087306 Report

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>>12087284
you think flames come from gravity, or are nuclear reactions?
flames and electricity are both EM

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 09:54:42 No.12087319 Report

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>>12087284
Electricity. Fire is more fantasy related.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 12:35:45 No.12087668 Report

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>>12087306
>flames and electricity are both EM
As a physical chemist I am super disapointed with your level of comprehension.

The visual part of fire is EM radiation, but fire itself is a rapid exothermic chemical reaction.

Electricity is the flow of potential provided exclusively by electrons.

Simply defining these two phenomena as 'EM' only serves to demonstrate how shallow your understanding of the physical world is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 14:03:53 No.12087817 Report

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If you're talking about heat produced then fire.

>>12087668
as what this guy said, fire/combustion is an exothermic reaction meaning conversion of energy to heat

electricity is not directly related to heat unless you're introducing the topic of electrical resistance like a lightning strike that produces fire or an electric stove

in any case:
>fire produces heat
>electricity is a different form of energy

the potential amount of heat they can produce? it depends on the source and efficiency of the energy transformation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 14:05:19 No.12087819 Report

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>>12087817
wao, lemme correct myself
I forgot that the OP is asking for coolness not hotness, the answer should be electricity

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 14:20:38 No.12087840 Report

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>>12087817
>>12087819
go back to le eddit you niggerfaggots

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 14:34:35 No.12087861 Report

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Flames are just hot particles in the air.
Yes, flame, by definition. is an aerosol... that's why it's so easy to get your spray deodorant a flame. You have the particles, so all you need to do is just heat them.

Petrol is so easy to set aflame because it evapaorates really easily (it's why it stinks so much!), so seeting its particles in the air is so easy.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 14:37:38 No.12087865 Report

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Hot particles are EM

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Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 14:39:01 No.12087870 Report

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>>12087840
that feel when u don't use reddit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 14:59:57 No.12087918 Report

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>>12087284
Fire is hot, clearly electricity is cooler

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 15:11:55 No.12087950 Report

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>>12087668
they are both plasma you egg head pseud

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 15:13:27 No.12087955 Report

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>>12087284
electricity causes heat because of friction it isnt that hot in itself I dont think

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 15:28:10 No.12087998 Report

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>>12087668
soo-o, gravity then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 16:18:49 No.12088158 Report

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>>12087306
>>12087998

gravity has something to do with mass or density, can't say it is related to both until you give me an example on when it becomes relevant

burning is an exothermic reaction, most common example would be a chemical reaction where the fuel combines with oxygen to into water vapour, carbon dioxide and energy

the visual part of fire is an electromagnetic wave (light and variations of light are EM like ultraviolet, infrared, radio waves etc)

Electricity is not electromagnetic, it is.. you know electrical energy...
electromagnetic is also not magnetic energy.

Regarding nuclear reactions like the sun, is it still considered fire? I am not a physicist, and I can't answer that.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 16:45:10 No.12088269 Report

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>>12087284
Electricity and magnetic fields get weaker the hotter it is.
Superconductors exist only at temperatures below zero and the only time electricity generates heat is when is through the resistance in its path. The human body for example is 30% not-water and thus would recieve 30% of the voltage as while the rest escapes to the ground.

I doubt electricity could run past 100c

Meanwhile: fire is combustion of materials that breaks down fuel sources and oxygen into carbon dioxide, carbon dioxide, heat and light, and whatever chemical compounds would result from igniting the fuel.

The hottest fire on record comes from Oxy–dicyanoacetylene which reaches 4,990 °C

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Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 16:48:44 No.12088276 Report

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Electricity and magnetic fields get weaker the hotter it is.
Superconductors exist only at temperatures below zero and the only time electricity generates heat is when is through the resistance in its path. The human body for example is 30% not-water and thus would recieve 30% of the voltage as while the rest escapes to the ground.

I doubt electricity could run past 100c

Meanwhile: fire is combustion of materials that breaks down fuel sources and oxygen into carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, heat and light, and whatever chemical compounds would result from igniting the fuel. (like sulfur and charcoal)

The hottest fire on record comes from Oxy–dicyanoacetylene which reaches 4,990 °C

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 16:50:51 No.12088284 Report

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>>12087296
what's the one on the right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 17:03:28 No.12088328 Report

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>>12087284
Fire is cause by electric bond. And you must be 18 to post here as far as I remember. By the age of 18 you should know this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 17:06:25 No.12088344 Report

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>>12088158
>Electricity is not electromagnetic
sure bud, it's pudding
your Nobel is in the mail

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Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 17:07:28 No.12088353 Report

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>>12088158
>I am not a physicist
noooooooo really?

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Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 17:09:28 No.12088359 Report

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>>12088158

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Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 17:45:57 No.12088495 Report

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>>12088158
>sun
It's not fire, yet it burns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 18:55:53 No.12088671 Report

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>>12087955
Electricity is the movement of electrons from one electron field to the next. How freely they are able to do this depends at the atomic level of the materials. Causing more motion of atoms and fields is heat. This would depend on the potential for current to flow combined with the resistivity of the materials.

I haven't taken thermo, but there's surely greater understanding to be had.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 20:01:05 No.12088911 Report

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>>12088495
are you sure about that? xD

Mind explaining though? I'm the one who posted that, I'm interested in your reasoning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 20:10:12 No.12088946 Report

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>>12088353
I'm in engineering bud, we have chemistry classes and physics classes but the focus of my curriculum is economics

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 20:27:06 No.12089006 Report

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>>12088344

>The electromagnetic force, a type of physical interaction that occurs between electrically charged particles. The electromagnetic force is carried by electromagnetic fields composed of electric fields and magnetic fields, and it is responsible for electromagnetic radiation such as light.

don't tell me you don't know the difference between electricity and electromagnetism?

electromagnets works when you have both magnetism and electricity it should be super obvious that electricity is not electromagnetic without the magnet part

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 20:37:01 No.12089036 Report

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>>12088946
You take the same chemistry and physics that biology majors do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 02:30:25 No.12089971 Report

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>>12088284
>????? / ????3 (Logos, Legos): reason, computation, inward debate of the soul...word, discussion, debate, deliberation, proportion, language...Wisdom of God personified as his agent in creation, in the New Testament identified with the person of Christ

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=lo%2Fgos&la=greek&can=lo%2Fgos0#lexicon

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Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 04:15:04 No.12090197 Report

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>>12089971
I meant to ask which political movement was the icon on the right representative of

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Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 15:05:10 No.12091578 Report

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>>12087284
/sci/ I always wanted someone to help me with this question :
If fire and electricity clashed , which one would win ? which one is the stronger element ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 15:20:11 No.12091642 Report

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>>12091578
Electricity cannot run in a hot atmospheric condition.

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Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 17:17:54 No.12091970 Report

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>>12091642
look, more pudding
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4I-eoikYcs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 18:30:35 No.12092215 Report

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>>12087284
>electricty
btfo by IR=V

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Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 18:47:53 No.12092276 Report

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>>12087284
They're the same thing, retard

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Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 18:50:06 No.12092282 Report

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>>12087668
It's just electron energy. How you get it worked up is irrelevant.
OP is basically asking
>What's a cooler way of moving water, a river or rain?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 19:45:27 No.12092473 Report

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>>12091970
That's called Volcanic Lightning
>Volcanic lightning arises from colliding, fragmenting particles of volcanic ash (and sometimes ice),[1][2] which generate static electricity within the volcanic plume[3], leading to the name dirty thunderstorm.[4][5] Moist convection and ice formation also drive the eruption plume dynamics[6][7] and can trigger volcanic lightning.[8][9] But unlike ordinary thunderstorms, volcanic lightning can also occur before any ice crystals have formed in the ash cloud.[10][11]
It has more to do with the ash and ice crystals than the volcano itself

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Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 19:49:08 No.12092488 Report

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>>12091970
Also, it's pretty common knowledge
>Temperature affects how electricity flows through an electrical circuit by changing the speed at which the electrons travel. This is due to an increase in resistance of the circuit that results from an increase in temperature. Likewise, resistance is decreased with decreasing temperatures.

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