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Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 09:33:01 2020 No.12083785 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12084472 >>12084477 >>12084489 >>12084837 >>12085015 >>12085516 >>12085798 >>12086365 >>12086581 >>12087352 >>12090775 >>12092194 >>12092436 >>12093419 >>12093761

>be me
>buy some introductory math textbooks
>learn math up to first year university level
>stop
>buy some physics textbooks and do the same thing
>stop again
>do the same for chemistry and biology
>repeat for economics, geography etc.
>never get to advanced level for anything

Is there anything wrong with being a generalist?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 09:34:48 No.12083791 Report

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Partly I have a very wide variety of interests, and partly I don't see the point in specialising in one field alone unless you plan to devote your career to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 11:06:56 No.12083953 Report

Quoted By: >>12084048

"But the truth is that the dilettante treats his subject as an end, whereas the professional, pure and simple, treats it merely as a means. He alone will be really in earnest about a matter, who has a direct interest therein, takes to it because he likes it, and pursues it con amore. It is these, and not hirelings, that have always done the greatest work"
>based bro Schopenhauer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 11:54:19 No.12084048 Report

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>>12083953
>But the truth is that the dilettante treats his subject as an end, whereas the professional, pure and simple, treats it merely as a means
True for dilettantes maybe, but not true for everyone who has eclectic interests.
> It is these, and not hirelings, that have always done the greatest work"
Not all great works come from specialists, considering all the polymaths in history. Schopenhauer is indeed based but he is clearly coping here since the statement is false on both levels.

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Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 13:43:32 No.12084272 Report

Quoted By: >>12084281 >>12084395 >>12087107 >>12087523 >>12089035

jack of all trades, master of none. you are willingfully choosing mediocrity

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 13:47:41 No.12084281 Report

Quoted By: >>12084287

>>12084272
but a specialist is a connector of none

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 13:50:40 No.12084287 Report

Quoted By: >>12094422

>>12084281
now days you need to have high school/undergrad level understanding in everything and be specialized in one thing, for example medical research is impossible without knowing at least undergrad math and chemistry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 14:41:02 No.12084395 Report

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>>12084272
>wilfully choosing to restrict yourself to one thing
t. ant

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Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 15:09:22 No.12084453 Report

Quoted By: >>12087579

"Specialization is for insects"
- Robert Heinlein

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Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 15:17:09 No.12084472 Report

Quoted By: >>12092855

>>12083785
You basically self taught yourself into an associates degree

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 15:19:45 No.12084477 Report

Quoted By: >>12084626

>>12083785
Based, the antiquarian education is patrician. Knowledge divided is a mind disconnected

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 15:24:38 No.12084489 Report

Quoted By: >>12084493 >>12084595

>>12083785
>>be me
Stopped reading, fuck off back to plebbit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 15:26:18 No.12084493 Report

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>>12084489
triggered

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 15:58:50 No.12084595 Report

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>>12084489
how new are you lmao? "be me" is classic greentext

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 16:07:07 No.12084626 Report

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>>12084477
>Knowledge divided is a mind disconnected
should be a well known quote

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 17:17:47 No.12084837 Report

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>>12083785
Not as long as you train and practice your integrative creativity.

https://psyche.co/ideas/to-be-creative-chinese-philosophy-teaches-us-to-abandon-originality

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Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 18:08:02 No.12084966 Report

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>undergraduate degree in everything

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Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 18:26:10 No.12085015 Report

Quoted By: >>12085161

>>12083785
knowledge without application is vanity

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 19:20:16 No.12085161 Report

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>>12085015
yeah I'm sure you're applying your phd level knowledge to anything useful

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 20:57:06 No.12085372 Report

Quoted By: >>12087584

The chad autodidact vs the virgin 'pay someone $100,000 to put a textbook on some Powerpoint slides'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 21:47:29 No.12085516 Report

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>>12083785
>Is there anything wrong with being a generalist?
no, I think everyone should do that, but once they've obtained a broad enough knowledge they should home in one specific field. Once you know a reasonable amount of a lot of fields it can help give you insight into problems you can solve in the field you want to specialize in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Sep 2020 23:15:28 No.12085798 Report

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>>12083785
>>Is there anything wrong with being a generalist?
it's unsatisfying

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 02:35:01 No.12086365 Report

Quoted By: >>12094426 >>12094431

>>12083785
>learn math up to first year university level
So, not enough to do literally anything?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 04:09:39 No.12086558 Report

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they expect you to know everything and sneer if you don't

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 04:16:55 No.12086577 Report

Quoted By: >>12087099

All of the previous posters are absolute retards.

You have the basics down, yes anon. Good job. Now you need to figure out a problem that intrigues. Find a question that fills you with passion. Keep generalizing until it hits you.

Then realize that all science is connected. Biology to Chemistry to Physics to Math. If you have a good foundation in science, you begin to answer your question.

Keep learning anon. Answer your question.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 04:20:23 No.12086581 Report

Quoted By: >>12087111 >>12092695

>>12083785
All STEMfags should know up to second year Chem, Bio, Math and Phys including orgo, diff eq, stats, analysis, lin alg, basic physiology and evolutionary theory, mechanics, EM, waves and thermochem+acid-base equilibria, throw in enough coding to do simulations and statistical analysis and you have a well educated substrate to mold into the specialists necessary for high civilization. no different from making kids learn their latin, greek, grammar, history.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 08:27:20 No.12087099 Report

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>>12086577
This to be honest I don't see how anyone can work on serious problems (outside of mathematics) without at least knowing a little about everything else. Like imagine you're trying to cure some disease, there's at least five subjects you'd need to get a grip on before even being competent enough to formulate the problem itself. And if we're talking about bigger things like economic problems, then good luck with that unless you basically understand the entire system.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 08:29:41 No.12087107 Report

Quoted By: >>12087265

>>12084272
Jack of all trades, master of none; but better by far, than a master of one.

Learn the full saying or you just look like an idiot trying to use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 08:32:10 No.12087111 Report

Quoted By: >>12087129 >>12092695

>>12086581
>Chem, Bio, Math and Phys including orgo, diff eq, stats, analysis, lin alg, basic physiology and evolutionary theory, mechanics, EM, waves and thermochem+acid-base equilibria, throw in enough coding to do simulations and statistical analysis

All of this plus require the following readings: classics (Homer, Dante, Dostoyevsky, Shakespeare...), essential philosophy (Plato, Aristotle...), and history (Western Civilisation) for the ultimate patrician chad education.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 08:37:40 No.12087129 Report

Quoted By: >>12087310 >>12092452

>>12087111
I dispute that reading classics alone is a solid grounding. Many contemporary sources of literature match or even exceed these writings in terms of readability and relavence of similar concepts to modern humans. Although philosophy is a bit more static. Sticking to a pure western philosophical tradition of the greek -> european scholars is pretty unbalanced though. Best to build up both east and west philosophical traditions simeltaneously in order to create a balenced view of both

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Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 08:57:38 No.12087178 Report

Quoted By: >>12087312

This is how you know everyone on sci is actually mentally challenged. This guy has been reading books written for mongoloids for years. How you manage to romanticize this is beyond me.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 09:32:50 No.12087265 Report

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>>12087107
That's not actually the full saying, it's something that was added later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 09:49:32 No.12087310 Report

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>>12087129
>Many contemporary sources of literature match or even exceed these writings in terms of readability and relavence of similar concepts to modern humans
Care to share some for my own reading?
I think reading classics has the added benefit of learning how ideas developed historically.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 09:50:50 No.12087312 Report

Quoted By: >>12087377

>>12087178
>give me attention! I'm so much smarter than everyone else

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 10:08:00 No.12087352 Report

Quoted By: >>12087398

>>12083785
This is brainlet cope. There is nothing wrong with having vast knowledge as long as it is usefull to you in some way (i.e. directly using it, using it to advance your way of thinking in other fields,cetc). If you learn little about everything then this is not usefull to you, cause you can neither use it direclty nor use it to advance your thinking (it is elementary knowledge afterall) nor can you use it in any other way. If you have knowledge but can't use it in any way then this is not different from not having knowledge

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Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 10:20:03 No.12087377 Report

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>>12087312
That's not what this is about. Most of you are just playing charades, those books aren't written for actual human beings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 10:30:36 No.12087398 Report

Quoted By: >>12087429 >>12087610

>>12087352
>If you have knowledge but can't use it in any way then this is not different from not having knowledge
Fortunately it is impossible to 'not use knowledge'. Every time you read a newspaper, interact with people, purchase something, make a decision, etc. the knowledge you gain helps you in these actions.

The brainlet fallacy is to think using knowledge means writing papers or working in a lab. Only a child would think this, but I know you're 17 years old.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 10:42:18 No.12087429 Report

Quoted By: >>12087551 >>12090498

>>12087398
tell me one good thing that can come out from knowing that we all will inevitably die and using it in some way

no bullshit like "muh eternal life" allowed, will never happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 11:16:28 No.12087523 Report

Quoted By: >>12087615

>>12084272
>jack of all trades, master of none

Is still better than a one who knows none.

Why do people forget the FULL saying? Being broad generalist is still better than someone who knows jackshit about anything and realistically there are very few who are actually 'master' of anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 11:25:13 No.12087551 Report

Quoted By: >>12087557

>>12087429
>tell me one good thing that can come out from knowing that we all will inevitably die and using it in some way
Simple. Making the most of the time you have here. Come on dude wake up, use that big brain of yours.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 11:29:23 No.12087557 Report

Quoted By: >>12087566

>>12087551
>Making the most of the time you have here.
for what purpose? Knowing that I will die anyway, there's no point in even thinking of what to do, let alone do it in a way that I'd get the maximum satisfaction.

Ironically, you cannot deny this in any way, otherwise you contradict yourself
>Fortunately it is impossible to 'not use knowledge'.

Cope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 11:34:08 No.12087566 Report

Quoted By: >>12087598

>>12087557
I answered your silly question. The conclusion you drew ('there's no point in even thinking of what to do') doesn't follow. It seems like you could do with a basic education in things like logic and English, because you argue like a retard.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 11:42:28 No.12087579 Report

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>>12084453
based

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Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 11:45:32 No.12087584 Report

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>>12085372
kek and true

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Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 11:51:55 No.12087598 Report

Quoted By: >>12090205 >>12090501

>>12087566
You didn't answer anything.

I have knowledge of the end, the end is nothingness for me as individual and nothing I do will change it. My memories, whether good or bad, will go away when I die aswell, so making the best of it is also completely and utterly pointless.

You can't just claim that its impossible for me to do anything but ignore this knowledge and do indeed make the best of it while I'm here, then tell me that I argue like a retard when I just paraphrased your retarded idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 11:57:46 No.12087607 Report

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>Is there anything wrong with being a generalist?
I think you meant being a brainlet.

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Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 11:59:44 No.12087610 Report

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>>12087398
17 years old are still children though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 12:02:33 No.12087615 Report

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>>12087523
jack of all trades is a master of jacking off and failing everything, cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 12:16:05 No.12087639 Report

Quoted By: >>12088890

you cant do any research as a generalist, because you wont know enough of any topic to pick even the lowest hanging fruit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 19:56:12 No.12088890 Report

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>>12087639
You can research new interdisciplinary fields that don't require specialisation.

But who the fuck cares? What if you have a job, a family, and other shit to do? Most people don't get to research at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 05 Sep 2020 20:36:49 No.12089035 Report

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>>12084272
I’m a his genius and I did what op did for stem just to be a rounded human. So now I can code and understand biophysics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 04:09:37 No.12090189 Report

Quoted By: >>12090768

pick 1 or 2 to get good at. nobody cares if you know something about everything, you get hired because you are good at 1 or 2 things

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 04:19:07 No.12090205 Report

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>>12087598
We aren't what we keep
We are right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 07:00:59 No.12090498 Report

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>>12087429
that knowledge frames the relativity of every single thing you do, say, and experience.
precisely because it teaches you scale, it reveals the meaning and value of all things that follow

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 07:02:02 No.12090501 Report

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>>12087598
dude who's never had a present moment...
sad

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Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 09:04:34 No.12090768 Report

Quoted By:

>>12090189
>putting money before anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 09:06:12 No.12090775 Report

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>>12083785
I think it's admirable to know a little about a lot of topics, but if you also want to be usefull to society in some way, at least specialize a little in one subject.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 18:16:28 No.12092174 Report

Quoted By: >>12092194

the Chad way is to heavily specialize and then draw from other disciplines to your craft, and also export shit you learn to other fields and see if it helps.

t. computational biophysics (with ee minor) pee eich dee

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 18:22:03 No.12092194 Report

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>>12083785
Cringe
>>12092174
Based

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Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 19:32:30 No.12092436 Report

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>>12083785
if your a jack of all trades you need to specialize in finance and not be a sperg.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 19:36:52 No.12092452 Report

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>>12087129
imagine wasting your time on this non sense when you could learn financial jew magic and make millions off of autistic stem niggers

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Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 21:12:33 No.12092695 Report

Quoted By: >>12092822

>>12086581
>>12087111
Holy based.

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Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 21:59:38 No.12092822 Report

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>>12092695
fucking filename lmao

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Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 22:11:13 No.12092855 Report

Quoted By: >>12092878

>>12084472
I hate this disgusting webm

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Anonymous Sun 06 Sep 2020 22:18:38 No.12092878 Report

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>>12092855
the disease isn't that bad if it makes you feel any better. it just deforms your face, not your brain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 2020 02:04:51 No.12093419 Report

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>>12083785
It's definitely beneficial to have a basic understanding of those areas of knowledge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 2020 02:20:55 No.12093455 Report

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This is an essence the fundamental idea behind a liberal arts education. You are exposed to introductory levels of many subjects without ever going into depth in any one in particular.
There is nothing wrong with it, but try to find one that you enjoy and study it further.

Breadth of knowledge is important, but depth of knowledge is even more so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 2020 04:50:47 No.12093761 Report

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>>12083785
not enough, you need up to 4th year university to be useful

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 2020 10:37:32 No.12094422 Report

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>>12084287
?? Einstein had to do several topics on electricity in his undergrad.
it sounds like you're saying people have to get a BA just to get an MA which is obvious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 2020 10:40:36 No.12094426 Report

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>>12086365
lmao

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Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 2020 10:41:46 No.12094431 Report

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>>12086365
he can do well in a trades course lol

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