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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 16:25:29 2020 No.12077141 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12077174 >>12077592 >>12077724 >>12077769

>non existence
>be born
>die
>non existence
>???

The last one is “be born” isn’t it? IT BETTER FUCKING NOT BE I WANT OFF THIS RIDE

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 16:32:44 No.12077172 Report

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How do you get born after you die?
You were "born" from gametes.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 16:33:37 No.12077174 Report

Quoted By: >>12077184 >>12077217 >>12077241

>>12077141
>The last one is “be born” isn’t it?
This is based on the idea that your life is part of a possibly infinite cycle and your consciousness only shifts from one life to another. However, once you have died, the question whether or not your consciousness shifts becomes non-sensical because there's no consciousness to begin with.
The idea above is as logically sound as the idea that, based on the assumption that other people have consciousness, their consciousness is actually identical to your consciousness.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 16:36:48 No.12077184 Report

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>>12077174
To put it short. No, I can't rigorously disprove that we're not all living in a cycle where we're forced for eternity to live through mostly horrid lives. However, I will also point out that this question is ultimately metaphysical. To cite Wittgenstein, your philosophical problem is actually a semantic problem. A problem that does not exist because it's not really making sense in the first place.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 16:47:19 No.12077217 Report

Quoted By: >>12077241 >>12077789

>>12077174
this
consider how much of your consciousness relies on you being able to recall memories
without memory recall you only exist one frame at a time, as if you never existed in the previous frames at all
be born implies no memory

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 16:55:15 No.12077241 Report

Quoted By: >>12077255

>>12077174
>>12077184
>>12077217

So it's an infinite cycle of amnesia and suffering? This is not ideal.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 17:00:47 No.12077255 Report

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>>12077241
To be honest, the variety of possibilites that may exist, I at least claim so, means that if it's an cycle, it's only an infinite cycle of amnesia. Suffering might be possible in only some universes whereas in others, it's a completely impossible concept.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 18:42:12 No.12077592 Report

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>>12077141
>he thinks the ride will end

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 19:04:35 No.12077724 Report

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>>12077141
It probaly is, just make the most of your life because you will experience it eternally.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 19:10:51 No.12077769 Report

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>>12077141
>plucked from infinity
>is right here right now surrounded by people all the same
>is surrounded on all sides by infinity
>still thinks his place in space and time is arbitrary
This is an argt of pascal that stuck with me

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 19:12:36 No.12077789 Report

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>>12077217
>your consciousness relies on you being able to recall memories
>without memory recall you only exist one frame at a time, as if you never existed in the previous frames at all
So close yet so far away
You don't get what conscousness is and your arrogance prevents growth into the next level of awareness

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 19:13:51 No.12077802 Report

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just look at the vatican hall. A serpent.
You are in hell and most are pretending.
Are you being punished? Are you being trained? Who knows.

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 19:14:47 No.12077809 Report

Quoted By: >>12077836

>Another consciousness thread

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Anonymous Wed 02 Sep 2020 19:19:54 No.12077836 Report

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>>12077809
>Another number thread

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