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Anonymous Sun 30 Aug 21:20:21 2020 No.12067566 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12068474 >>12068477 >>12068488 >>12068499 >>12068506

>Why do atoms have electronegativity?
"oh it's cause they wanna fill their outer shells"
>Why do atoms want to fill their outer shells?
"because of their electronegativity"

Why are chemists like this

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 01:15:33 No.12068474 Report

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>>12067566
Because if things weren't the way they are now, they would be another way and we would ask the same thing.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 01:16:58 No.12068477 Report

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>>12067566
because "chemists" often don't have to learn the physical reasoning behind why things are the way they are, they just learn the rules.
there's a more correct way to answer your second question.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 01:20:03 No.12068488 Report

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>>12067566
Because knowing the math that tells you why atoms want to fill their outer shells gains you NOTHING in chemistry. Chemists are more concerned with the emergent properties of a system.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 01:24:37 No.12068499 Report

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>>12067566
Similar memes pop up in physics, just with nucleons instead of electrons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_number_(physics)

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 01:27:41 No.12068506 Report

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>>12067566
Usually the answer for such questions is always
>Because of the principle of least action

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 01:37:23 No.12068531 Report

Quoted By: >>12070703

>>12068488
Because knowing the math that tells you why atoms want to fill their outer shells gains you NOTHING in chemistry. Chemists are more concerned with the emergent properties of a system
what about in quantum and physical chemistry where they study the quantum mechanical properties of chemical species?

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 10:02:12 No.12069406 Report

Quoted By: >>12069426

lol. this is why I switched my major to math. If we're not going even derive everything during class, why are we doing this?

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 10:21:30 No.12069426 Report

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>>12069406
we cannot currently derive some things in chemistry. Some problems are forms of the n-body problem. We also can't exactly solve the Schrödinger equation for more complex things than the hydrogen molecule

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 10:35:43 No.12069439 Report

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>Unicorn Jelly reaction image
Good taste, OP.
It's one of the best pieces of fiction I've ever read.

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Anonymous Mon 31 Aug 2020 18:44:53 No.12070703 Report

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>>12068531
They would probably give you a different answer then.

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