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Is ethics in the science research field stupid?

Anonymous Sat 29 Aug 21:21:28 2020 No.12063816 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12063819 >>12063847 >>12063905

Whats the point? It seems very ideological and people disagree on ethics all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Aug 2020 21:22:17 No.12063819 Report

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>>12063816
No, ethics prevents things like Unit 731.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Aug 2020 21:23:38 No.12063825 Report

Quoted By: >>12063844 >>12063919

>should we experiment on an entire group of people without their prior consent in a way that might end up killing them
gee I wonder why ethics might be important. go back to your high school homework

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Aug 2020 21:28:28 No.12063844 Report

Quoted By: >>12063850

>>12063825
A person is born every second though.
Many more people may die overtime because of the slow down of research because of ethics restraints.
The polio vaccine killed many people unethically in its early stages but it saved far more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Aug 2020 21:28:41 No.12063847 Report

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>>12063816
science should only care about research like businesses only care about profit. leave ethics to the government

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Aug 2020 21:29:56 No.12063850 Report

Quoted By: >>12063871

>>12063844
this is the epitome of an underaged argument
it sounds so good in theory until you're the one who has to be killed for "research"

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Anonymous Sat 29 Aug 2020 21:34:53 No.12063871 Report

Quoted By: >>12063899

>>12063850
Then why not just create a farm of test subjects? Children raised in a lab then reproduce then tested on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Aug 2020 21:44:39 No.12063899 Report

Quoted By: >>12063928

>>12063871
Because, imagine if you were one of those test subjects to be farmed for deadly research, like Injecting mercury into your veins to observe the results. Do you want that? Obviously not, it’s a universal ethic to not harm living organisms, since they do not want to be harmed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Aug 2020 21:46:49 No.12063905 Report

Quoted By: >>12063923

>>12063816
One has to know where to stop.
If you cause suffering to animals or fellow humans its probably time to stop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Aug 2020 21:52:27 No.12063919 Report

Quoted By: >>12063946

>>12063825
we should use people convicted of 1st degree murder without a doubt for research purposes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Aug 2020 21:53:29 No.12063923 Report

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>>12063905
>If you cause suffering to animals
and say good bye to medical research.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Aug 2020 21:54:28 No.12063928 Report

Quoted By: >>12063935

>>12063899
Yes but it's not me so who cares ?

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Anonymous Sat 29 Aug 2020 21:56:54 No.12063935 Report

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>>12063928
Because, I'd put you in it. You see, when you debase society, you leave it to nothing more than might is right, what can be enforced through implicit and explicit violence. Between me and you, I have the monopoly on violence, small fry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Aug 2020 22:01:04 No.12063946 Report

Quoted By: >>12063956

>>12063919
2nded.

There is no good reason to not be using abhorrent criminals as test subjects

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Aug 2020 22:04:04 No.12063956 Report

Quoted By: >>12063960

>>12063946
instead the state takes tax dollars to keep them behind bars for life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Aug 2020 22:06:08 No.12063960 Report

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>>12063956
While claiming its "all about reform".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 29 Aug 2020 22:11:24 No.12063968 Report

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Because creating sentient beings capable of feeling suffering is horrible itself. But creating sentient beings to exploit and torture them is totally evil.

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