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Anonymous Tue 18 Aug 04:59:21 2020 No.12020296 View Reply Original Report

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Until the electrons traveling from the negative pole has "tried" every path/outcome in the circuit, the circuit as a whole is in pseudosuperposition. This all happens in the speed of light.

My point is that superposition functions similarly as fluid dynamics in controlled systems, but somehow faster than the speed of light (maybe thanks to entanglement?).

Thoughts?

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Anonymous Tue 18 Aug 2020 05:00:18 No.12020299 Report

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>>12020296
nope

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Anonymous Tue 18 Aug 2020 05:36:27 No.12020359 Report

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bro are you retarded?

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Anonymous Tue 18 Aug 2020 05:44:01 No.12020365 Report

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incomprehensible garbage

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Anonymous Tue 18 Aug 2020 11:54:22 No.12020935 Report

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>>12020296
The charge moves.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Aug 2020 11:56:08 No.12020939 Report

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>>12020296
Can you explain a little better what you're getting at?

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Anonymous Tue 18 Aug 2020 13:06:58 No.12021079 Report

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>>12020296
Nice try, but I don't see the usefulness of throwing superposition on top of basic Circuits. And superposition adds nothing new to our understanding of Circuits... so you're kind of fucking up the law of parsimony.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Aug 2020 13:55:24 No.12021181 Report

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>>12020296

This is your brain on quantum.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Aug 2020 14:31:59 No.12021290 Report

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>>12020296
What is it about electronics that confuse people? So many properties of electric circuits have analogs in mechanical devices, like diodes and check valves. People tend to understand one but not the other. And many of the equations used in circuit analysis are very similar to mechanical interactions.

When a ball is dropped from a great height does it constantly "check" all possible flight paths? Is it in superposition? No it simply has a speed and direction. Circuits are like a ball being thrown, they act predictably based off the applied stimulus. The term "path of least resistance" isn't some complex interaction or a super great description of how electrons move.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Aug 2020 18:14:30 No.12022142 Report

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I'm having what OP's having.

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Anonymous Tue 18 Aug 2020 20:04:54 No.12022466 Report

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>>12020296
>electrons traveling
They don't (in any significant relation to the current; that does flow)

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Anonymous Wed 19 Aug 2020 07:44:51 No.12024426 Report

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I think i get what op means, electrons ''want'' to move in the circuit, in a similar sense to how life and humans ''want'' to live and function and grow and reproduce. I also have a theory that all of the smallest units of energy have a minimum tiny primitive level of awareness or maybe will or both. Which is why everything kindof has these weird patterns that are extremely similar looking on a microscopic scale to a universal scale because they all ''want'' to do what they do.
The copper wire wants the energy to move through it and the energy wants to move through the copper wire.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Aug 2020 07:47:03 No.12024433 Report

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>>12024426
Take your meds

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Anonymous Wed 19 Aug 2020 10:17:39 No.12024719 Report

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>>12020296
Electrons have free will. They freely decide which path to travel in the circuit. Just as light freely decides which slit to enter in the double slit experiment.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Aug 2020 18:57:24 No.12025855 Report

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>>12020296
A single "fucker" electron always finds his way through a closed circuit

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Anonymous Wed 19 Aug 2020 19:16:22 No.12025890 Report

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>>12020939
Basically, if you look at diagram in pic related, the lamp with the lower resistance _after_ the electrons/current passes through the lamp, will shine more bright. The same effect could be seen in a design which uses water and varying inner diameter of pipes, and then a turbine generating electricity->powers the lamp.

But the point is, the first electrons passing through the system doesn't "know" this, it will for a split second light up both lamps equally much before the resistance downstream causes a congestion which propagates backwards and then lowers the brightness of the lamp. Same goes for the water.

So, what I'm saying is, that before the electrons and water has encountered the whole system, the system is basically in superposition, only that it's slower than light (and more predictable). And I'm saying that superposition is analogous to the circuit of electrons and water, only that it functions in some complex way we cannot yet understand, which is faster than light.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Aug 2020 20:38:38 No.12026176 Report

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>>12024719
they had it but now they have been constrained by the transistor itself to serve the tyranny of computer software.
AI is literally torturing nature and no one cares,

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Anonymous Wed 19 Aug 2020 21:55:31 No.12026434 Report

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>>12025890
You're using the lumped-element model of electricity, with an added assumption that there is space between electrons (there indeed is), to talk about quantum superposition.
>it will for a split second light up both lamps equally much before the resistance downstream causes a congestion which propagates backwards and then lowers the brightness of the lamp.
This is not true. Non-ideal wire inductance limits "instantaneous" electron flow, as well as the mass of the electrons themselves. The current through any lamp does not "spike up and then propagate backwards and lowers the current".

About your "superposition is like a circuit at rest":
In both electrons and water, it is the force of pushing, the electromagnetic force (aka PHOTONS MOVING AT LIGHT SPEED), that propagates at the speed of sound (through electrons or water). At equilibrium, the particles are constantly interacting with the electromagnetic force, so they would already "know" what's ahead (as far as the information speed limit allows).
Electrons already fill the circuit, and they don't move very fast. https://www.blueraja.com/blog/185/how-fast-do-electrons-move-in-a-circuit

My point is that your analogy sucks.

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Anonymous Wed 19 Aug 2020 23:57:26 No.12026777 Report

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>>12020296
>this all happens in the speed of light

Do the math. Electrons are very sluggish. They move way slower in circuits than you actually think. When you turn on the light bulb, it is the electrons that are already there that will heat up the fuse.

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Anonymous Thu 20 Aug 2020 02:09:06 No.12027121 Report

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>>12020296
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_wave_theory

do you mean this?

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