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Planck Satellite - Analysis of the 4K Blackbodies!

Anonymous Sun 16 Aug 18:45:20 2020 No.12015287 View Reply Original Report

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New Sky Scholar video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUIuxM9AHPw

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Description:

> Real Physics Talk - Munich, Germany:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH9h6eXyMcQ

> Have Astronomers Assigned a Signal Produced by the Oceans to the Cosmos?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QVm_50-BDg

> The Cosmic Microwave Background:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ijbu3bSqI

> WMAP: A Radiological Analysis (Progr. Phys. 2007, v. 3, no. 1, 3-18)
http://ptep-online.com/2007/PP-08-01.PDF

> COBE: A Radiological Analysis (Progr. Phys. 2009, v. 5, no. 4, 17-42)
http://ptep-online.com/2009/PP-19-03.PDF

> You can find all the PLANCK Images here:
https://irsa.ipac.caltech.edu/data/Planck/release_2/all-sky-maps/

> Collection of papers describing the Planck Low Frequency Instrument:
https://iopscience.iop.org/journal/1748-0221/page/extra.proc5

> The Planck Satellite LFI and the Microwave Background: Importance of the 4 K Reference Targets (Progr. Phys. 2010, v. 6, no. 3, 11-18)
http://ptep-online.com/2010/PP-22-02.PDF

> Calibration of Microwave Reference Blackbodies and Targets for Use in Satellite Observations: An Analysis of Errors in Theoretical Outlooks and Testing Procedures (Progr. Phys. 2010, v. 6, no. 3, 3-10)
http://ptep-online.com/2010/PP-22-01.PDF

> Planck-LFI: design and performance of the 4 Kelvin Reference Load Unit (JINST,2009, v. 4, T12006)
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-0221/4/12/T12006/pdf

> New RF data on Eccosorb CR/MF absorber (Proc. of SPIE, 2014, v. 9153, 91532X)
https://www.spiedigitallibrary.org/conference-proceedings-of-spie/9153/1/New-RF-data-on-ECCOSORB-CRMF-absorber/10.1117/12.2056315.short

> Laird, Eccosorb CRS: Two Part Castable Silicone Load Absorber (CRS is said to be electrically similar to CR)
https://www.laird.com/sites/default/files/2018-11/RFP-DS-CRS%20011216.pdf

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Anonymous Sun 16 Aug 2020 18:47:40 No.12015294 Report

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>>12015287
No.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Aug 2020 18:47:54 No.12015298 Report

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>>12015287
>sky scholar
>>>/x/

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Anonymous Sun 16 Aug 2020 18:49:33 No.12015306 Report

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>>12015287
Great! I'm so glad I subbed to this channel. He has such and eager and endearing way of teaching.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Aug 2020 18:56:20 No.12015326 Report

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>>12015287
It appears the Planck team intentionally designed their instrument in such a way as to help validate their own hypothesis and thus perpetuate their funding. That's pretty sad, as it violates the pursuit of scientific progress and betterment of human understanding. A clear conflict of interest.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Aug 2020 19:02:01 No.12015351 Report

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>>12015287
>eu garbage
into the trash it goes

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Anonymous Sun 16 Aug 2020 19:10:44 No.12015370 Report

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>>12015287
if you want an honest answer about sky scholar is he is a schizo. FIRST OFF the actual measurement that's IMPORTANT about the big bang is 2.72548±0.00057 K (copied from wikipedia). This was what was close to the predictions made by the big bang theory. every single satellite that was created measured this number with more or less precision. if they are all faulty why do they always measure the same number? if they werent all faulty but measuring dust emissions (its not) or some shit why would it just randomly end up being the number predicted by the big bang. those CMB "maps" of the the really tiny difference between slightly hot spots and the cold spots don't actually matter for attacking CMB. Im not 100% familiar with the design and use of the CMB measuring satellites, however if you do some research on the use of these maps is that they were actually used to find things in space. if they were all faulty garbage could people use them to find things in space? he is a retarded schizo spraying conjecture over the internet.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Aug 2020 19:12:29 No.12015378 Report

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>>12015326
Its fine they will just ignore him.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Aug 2020 19:17:48 No.12015388 Report

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>>12015287
The Planck's team's CMB results are strongly reminiscent of the results from the BICEP2 telescope at the South Pole, claiming to have discovered "primordial gravitational waves", a signal from the very early universe, which turned out to be very wrong. Not even those people could fake it to that degree. Or the claim they had taken a photo of a so-called black hole (by "interpreting" the 5 petabytes of data). Or the convenient eureka-moment of LIGO when after 15 years of zero results whatsoever, just as their funding was about to dry up completely, they suddenly began recording "gravitational waves" left and right from supposed collisions of black holes, white holes, neutron stars, and other deep space easter bunnies.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Aug 2020 20:18:04 No.12015579 Report

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>>12015287
Based and redpilled.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Aug 2020 20:47:14 No.12015686 Report

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Robitaille is a fraud and has no idea what he's talking about. Note that Planck had two instruments which used different detection methods, Robitaille only talks about one and yet both LFI and HFI get consistent results.

No matter how many times this shit is spammed it has still already proven wrong with empirical evidence. The Sunyaev–Zel'dovich Effect which shows where galaxy clusters have boosted the energy of CMBR photons to higher energies via the inverse Compton effect. Now this could be explained if it was just increased intensity from clusters adding to the local background BUT it's not just that. In certain frequencies it reduces the background radiation because photons have been promoted to higher energies. These galaxy clusters leave shadows on the CMB as we observe it, like this beautiful example from Planck. This is not explainable in a local model and it is commonly observed where we detect these signals and find an cluster in optical or x-ray. Furthermore the SZ effect is not only observed in known galaxy clusters but has actually been used to find hundreds of new confirmed ones. This would absolutely not be possible if Robitaille was correct, yet it is, finding hundreds is not an accident. More recently gravitational lensing of the CMB has been measured, this is further disproof of Robitaille's strange claims.

Robitaille isn't a scientist. He declares all this shit without ever doing an experiment or reducing observational data himself. He's a dogmatic hack, who isn't interested in what reality has to say.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Aug 2020 21:00:57 No.12015729 Report

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>>12015388
>The Planck's team's CMB results are strongly reminiscent of the results from the BICEP2 telescope at the South Pole, claiming to have discovered "primordial gravitational waves", a signal from the very early universe, which turned out to be very wrong.
And who disproved the BICEP2 result, you ass monkey? Planck.

>Or the convenient eureka-moment of LIGO when after 15 years of zero results whatsoever
After a huge leap in sensitivity that came from a 5 year long upgrade. NSF were not about to cancel LIGO just after they had invested a huge amount of money in the advanced upgrade, you're literally just making shit up

This sad conspiracy has been destroyed by GW170817. There LIGO and Virgo saw the binary neutron star collision and predicted the sky area and the distance. The coincident gamma ray detection could not predict the distance, and the sky constraint was worse. After a few hours a remarkable kilonova was found right at the distance the gravitational waves detectors had predicted. They published this prediction before it was confirmed by other telescopes.

It's easy to be critical of shit when you're wilfully ignorant of the facts.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Aug 2020 21:27:02 No.12015819 Report

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Robitaille fails to mention that only the low frequency unit uses raditive loads. The high frequency instrument is independent and uses bolometers.

This figure clearly debunks his bullshit.

In the top left there is the map at 70 GHz from LFI. In the lower right is the exact same part of the sky viewed by HFI at 100 GHz. Note how closely they match even tough these are entirely different instruments, only one of which uses the loads that Robitaille obsesses over. The upper right shows the difference between these two maps, note that most of the CMB fluctuations completely disappear, because they are the same at all wavelengths. This clearly shows that the fluctuations are not noise. The remaining features are foregrounds, emission from the Galaxy and other galaxies, unlike the CMB they are not independent of frequency.

https://arxiv.org/abs/1807.06205

If these maps were really just noise as he claims then this would not be possible.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Aug 2020 21:48:59 No.12015861 Report

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>>12015287
It's unthinkable that the Planck Team wouldn't measure the loss/effect from the 1.5mm separation in the assembly. The only reasonable conclusion for such a dubious gap in the data is that accounting for it would only undermine their preordained targets/results.

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Anonymous Sun 16 Aug 2020 22:10:32 No.12015929 Report

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>>12015861
Stop samefagging.

> The only reasonable conclusion supports my sad conspiracy theory which is clearly debunked by the data.
>>>/x/

Fuck off. Robitaille's pathetic excuses have been debunked.

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Anonymous Mon 17 Aug 2020 00:15:54 No.12016308 Report

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>>12015287

So... basically, a bunch of people who study theoreticals all day cobbled together a super sensitive scientific instrument with absolutely no regard for practical application or engineering. How much funding did they get to build and launch that clown box?

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Anonymous Mon 17 Aug 2020 00:19:08 No.12016314 Report

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>>12016308
Yes. See https://youtu.be/gBT7pBF_XeAg

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Anonymous Mon 17 Aug 2020 00:24:54 No.12016322 Report

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>>12016314
samefag op

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