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>Time never began

Anonymous Thu 13 Aug 06:14:15 2020 No.12003332 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12003355 >>12003393 >>12004871 >>12006528 >>12007383

O God, what does this mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Aug 2020 06:19:10 No.12003349 Report

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It means time never was. Only because we have inner clock doesnt mean universe has inner clock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Aug 2020 06:21:41 No.12003355 Report

Quoted By: >>12003359 >>12007254

>>12003332
>what is the block universe

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Aug 2020 06:22:26 No.12003359 Report

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>>12003355
So we be playin' minecraft n shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Aug 2020 06:25:49 No.12003365 Report

Quoted By: >>12003399 >>12006263

When referring to a beginning of time you'd have to use time again to say when time began. But this implies a time before time. So the only solution would be to introduce a second timelike dimension T2 to mark the beginning of T1. Applying the same reasoning over and over again leads to infinite regress.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Aug 2020 06:37:37 No.12003393 Report

Quoted By: >>12004837 >>12004857

>>12003332
you think about time wrong
the illusion of it having a flow comes from the consistent nature of beta decay, although all naive senses of time break down when you realize it is a local emergent propriety. for time to not be "flowing" would be breaking the laws of physics,

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Aug 2020 06:42:44 No.12003399 Report

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>>12003365

this. An infinite regress of timelike dimensions

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Aug 2020 17:43:30 No.12004837 Report

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>>12003393
NO YOU'RE thinking about it wrong! Spacetime is doomed and we need to forget about it. We need to focus on understanding eternity

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Aug 2020 17:49:20 No.12004857 Report

Quoted By: >>12004898 >>12005260

>>12003393
Actually it comes from us having a memory. It's all perception, beta decay is also perception of the world around us. Everything /happened/is happening/will happen at the same time. The only reason why you feel time moving is because you have a memory to record and compare.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Aug 2020 17:53:54 No.12004871 Report

Quoted By: >>12004898 >>12006238

>>12003332
Time is a social construct

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Aug 2020 18:04:49 No.12004898 Report

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>>12004871
No, time is real. It exists within eternity.
>>12004857
Time is fundamental

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Aug 2020 20:00:17 No.12005260 Report

Quoted By: >>12005293

>>12004857
you can't have memories without time. If time didn't exist a priori, memories wouldn't be possible.
The future is not happening nor has it happened. It also isn't deterministically defined.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Aug 2020 20:15:23 No.12005293 Report

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>>12005260
You are arguing from a physical point of view, I'm arguing from a philosophical view. Your models of physics shouldn't necessarily work, ergo the Big Bang need not have happened. The only thing I know is memory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 02:08:35 No.12006238 Report

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>>12004871
is this really what you got from kant

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 02:20:14 No.12006263 Report

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>>12003365
There isn't any problem with infinite regress.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 02:44:10 No.12006330 Report

Quoted By: >>12006496 >>12006533

>>12006263
Anon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 03:40:30 No.12006496 Report

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>>12006330
Does your ... imply the infinite regress of anonymity?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 03:55:31 No.12006528 Report

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>>12003332
You're not at all shocked by the idea that time will never end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 03:56:29 No.12006533 Report

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>>12006330
there isn't though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 04:14:47 No.12006573 Report

Quoted By: >>12006741

I think when it comes to universal metaphysical possibilities we need to create a list and assign probabilities based on observations. All possibilities are equally absurd so we must depend on empirics

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 06:05:56 No.12006741 Report

Quoted By: >>12007011

>>12006573
They are all only equally absurd if you lack even a modicum of intelligence. This is what philosophers understand, and what everyone else never will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 09:27:30 No.12007011 Report

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>>12006741
nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 11:22:50 No.12007254 Report

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>>12003355
pretty much. Everything already happened

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Aug 2020 12:32:40 No.12007383 Report

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>>12003332

>speed is distance divided by time
>time doesn't pass = stuff doesn't move

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