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Beirut explosion was like stronger than a tactical nuke

Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 10:15:05 2020 No.11989762 View Reply Original Report

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https://www.sciencealert.com/beirut-s-devastating-port-explosion-100-times-bigger-than-the-mother-of-all-bombs

It says here that beiruts explosion was stronger than a B61 tactical nuke.
So the question is, who used the B61 tactical nuke and how did they hide it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 10:23:53 No.11989784 Report

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>>11989762
>was like
Where do you think you are?

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Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 11:49:07 No.11989909 Report

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Better you than me, breh

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Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 11:52:43 No.11989918 Report

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>>11989762
>It says here that beiruts explosion was stronger than a B61 tactical nuke.
Do you know what else is more powerful than a B61 tactical nuke?
2,750 tonnes of exploding ammonium nitrate.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 11:52:48 No.11989920 Report

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>>11989762
fuck off back to >>>/pol/

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Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 11:55:11 No.11989928 Report

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https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-east-53696936/beirut-explosion-video-of-church-altar-s-survival-brings-hope

Explain this you atheisttards.
>Altar is intact
>Candle is still glowing
>Glass not broken

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Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 12:01:19 No.11989944 Report

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>>11989762
Imagine having an iq so low that that you cannot comprehend a giant fucking explosion without instinctively yelling "NUKE" like a retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 12:08:30 No.11989966 Report

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>>11989928
If you want a serious answer, it's because ANFO is a delagrating or 'low' explosive (speed of chemical reaction < speed of sound)
What this means in practical terms is that instead of shattering or vaporising stong but brittle substances such as concrete the way a high explosive does, most of the damage is done through expanding gases and debris and is consequently less severe
Evidence of this can be clearly seen in the grain silo next to the warehouse, which is still standing and clearly suffered more damage on the side facing the explosion. This in turn also offers clues as to the miraculous survival of the alter, which was protected from the blast by a concrete "wall of idols" while the rest of the church was destroyed in the blast.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 12:09:04 No.11989968 Report

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>>11989762
based and retardpilled

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Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 12:09:37 No.11989970 Report

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>>11989966
Ahem, that should have said 'deflagrating' not whatever the fuck autocorrect changed it to.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 12:18:21 No.11989989 Report

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>>11989928

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Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 13:59:39 No.11990244 Report

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>>11989966
Yeah I kind of knew that the wall acted as a cushion and since it was 'inside', so as to speak, it was protected much more compared to the benches outside.

It was my religious mom who brought this up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 14:00:43 No.11990248 Report

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>>11989989
Lol, I remember how one lady purported that the glowing cross was a sign from God but then, absolutely got destroyed by scifags. kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 14:22:55 No.11990294 Report

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All nukes no matter the size including B61 tactical nukes, even the tiny ass Davy Crockett nuclear bazooka, make an EMP. Cameras were still working around the blast site instead of fried, therefore it wasn't nuclear.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 14:24:53 No.11990300 Report

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>>11990294
>make an EMP
heh?

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Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 14:29:15 No.11990310 Report

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>>11989762
It wasn't a nuke, because there was no damage to any of the footage of the explosion. Stop being dumb.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 15:33:34 No.11990452 Report

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>>11989762
Yeah a low yield nuke.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 15:39:44 No.11990474 Report

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>>11990294
>>>/scifi/

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Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 20:24:06 No.11991671 Report

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>>11989966
Interesting.
Can you explain more about why the shock wave from a high explosive is different than those of non-high explosives?
Because I was always under the impression that there was really only one kind of shock wave, and it's properties would depend on the properties of the medium, not the type of explosive.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 20:27:27 No.11991687 Report

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>>11989920
kys

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Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 20:41:36 No.11991720 Report

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>>11990474
>Anything I don't understand is scifi

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Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 20:56:09 No.11991757 Report

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>>11991671
https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/courses/ww2/projects/firebombing/detonation-and-combustion.htm
tl;dr low explosives deflagrate, or burn rapidly at sub-sonic velocity, high explosives detonate, or burn at supersonic velocity.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Aug 2020 22:15:49 No.11991954 Report

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>>11991757
So there's no actual shockwave unless it's high explosives.

Thanks for nothing dickhead.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Aug 2020 04:10:25 No.11992658 Report

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>>11989762

Everything seems too planned. I’ve seen videos of the explosion and everything seems too professional. Some even had glide gear that didn’t even leave ground. I think due to warring factions it’s convenient to say some militants are dead. Especially with adversary factions assuming power.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Aug 2020 04:16:03 No.11992664 Report

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Simple question that nobody I have seen even bring up: why did it appear to be a perfect sphere in the first few centiseconds?

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Anonymous Mon 10 Aug 2020 04:20:11 No.11992669 Report

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>>11992658

What if the explosion gave people with hostages a way out. And all the dead bodies you see are hostages.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Aug 2020 13:43:39 No.11993525 Report

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>>11992664
Why does every other big explosion appear circular?

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Anonymous Mon 10 Aug 2020 16:16:38 No.11993973 Report

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>>11989762
>Beirut explosion was like stronger than a tactical nuke
Like, are you like, a valley girl, like?

Like?

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Anonymous Mon 10 Aug 2020 16:18:20 No.11993977 Report

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>>11992664
A better question, for you: Why would it not?

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Anonymous Mon 10 Aug 2020 20:32:18 No.11994821 Report

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>>11990294
>>11990300
>>11990474

Except he's 100% correct

Gamma radiations ionize ambient air ripping electrons from atoms thus creating an electromagnetic pulse. It would affect all unshielded electric device at reasonable range (hundreds of meters to a few kilometers for a ground burst)

Also there would be fallouts and measurable radioactivity anyone could detect even with the shittiest geiger counter.
Also the neutron pulse would've killed or badly burned anyone in the immediate vicinity that hasn't died of the explosion.

The reddish cloud of smoke is indicative of a rapid combustion of ammonium nitrate.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Aug 2020 20:34:43 No.11994827 Report

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>>11992664
t. someone who's never seen an explosion in slow motion and is trying to make a point with no knowledge whatsoever

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Anonymous Mon 10 Aug 2020 22:09:20 No.11995158 Report

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>>11991954
Looks to me like he answered your stupid question and you got mad over the fact that it was obvious.
Sad.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Aug 2020 04:58:52 No.11996177 Report

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>>11994827
Why would it be a sphere if it was produced by a bunch of bags sitting in a warehouse strewn about willy-nilly?

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Anonymous Tue 11 Aug 2020 06:39:38 No.11996334 Report

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>>11995158
You don't know what you're talking about and neither does that other fuckwit.
There's still a shock wave from non-high explosives, its just more diffuse i.e. less energy per volume

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Anonymous Tue 11 Aug 2020 06:42:12 No.11996340 Report

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>>11995158
In fact if you contain non-high explosives inside a capsule you can get the same effect as high explosives. moron. who even hired you anyway?

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Anonymous Tue 11 Aug 2020 06:44:26 No.11996343 Report

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>>11996334
that is to say, it's a lower pressure over a longer time

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Anonymous Tue 11 Aug 2020 06:46:06 No.11996345 Report

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>>11989762
I'm going to need more than "It says here" and a link with science in the URL to make me accept your pretense.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Aug 2020 06:47:37 No.11996347 Report

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>>11996345
the pretense is that a very large conventional explosion can be more powerful than a small nuke

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Anonymous Tue 11 Aug 2020 07:00:35 No.11996364 Report

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>>11996343
just the over a longer time part.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Aug 2020 08:28:03 No.11996516 Report

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>>11996177

If pic related is legit then it was packed in pretty densely

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Anonymous Tue 11 Aug 2020 13:10:58 No.11996946 Report

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>>11996177
>>11992664

Ground explosions are not spheres but hemispheres
viewed from the top, they don't always look like circles expanding in all directions.

if the explosives are arranged in a rectangle, like in a warehouse, the explosion would look like an elipse in the first few microseconds, but you really just assume it to be a sphere because "mom, it looks like a sphere !!!"

And also yes all explosions, nuclear or chemical, look like hemispheres because expanding gases try to take up as much space as possible in all possible directions, this is high school physics.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Aug 2020 13:29:09 No.11996975 Report

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>>11991954
The difference between a subsonic and supersonic explosion is enormous.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Aug 2020 20:58:31 No.11998307 Report

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>>11996334
What I think you're referring to as a "shockwave" is probably a sonic boom, the artifact of a medium traveling faster than the speed of sound (aka supersonic). High explosives produce more power over less time and thus are more capable of producing faster media. All explosives produce "shockwaves" but whether or not they're perceptible to the naked eye remains to be seen. Anon probably assumed you were referring to the sonic boom and gave you an explanation thinking you'd use logic to try to understand it, it was his fault for thinking you're not retarded. This isn't /b/.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Aug 2020 21:05:39 No.11998340 Report

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>>11989762
some people are just too insane.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Aug 2020 21:10:43 No.11998357 Report

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>>11998307
It's been a long time since I've read something written so confidently and yet so factually incorrect, which exhibits perfectly the utter stupidity and astounding level of arrogance of the writer. Thanks, anon. You win the award for biggest, least self aware moron of 4chan for today.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Aug 2020 21:13:58 No.11998371 Report

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>>11998357
incorrect, I have seen something worse already today
it's fairly high scoring but not king of idiocy

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Anonymous Tue 11 Aug 2020 21:19:33 No.11998401 Report

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>>11998371
I don't know... anon's post seems to fit quite well the definition of "disinformation". It uses big words and on first inspection looks like it could be true, but on closer inspection, everything turns out to be utter horseshit. It's extra dangerous due to the way it disguises itself as truth.

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Anonymous Tue 11 Aug 2020 21:21:15 No.11998405 Report

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>>11989920
yea, kys

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