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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 00:34:45 2020 No.11971075 View Reply Original Report

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Is Buddhism the truth? If you got studies to support Buddhist beliefs please send them and if you got the opposite do it too.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 00:38:07 No.11971085 Report

Quoted By: >>11971101

>>11971075
Since i saw that vietnamese monk immolate himself and literally not move an inch i started to think there maybe something more to that religion. Never got that into it though

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 00:43:45 No.11971101 Report

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>>11971085
It seems to me that it explains life in the best way, but I still want evidence.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 00:49:07 No.11971131 Report

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>>11971101
Buddhism is experiential. There's no a lot of claims they make in general life, aside from people not having souls, which is completely opposite of what every other religious and almost all non-religious belief system believes ins by default.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 01:06:36 No.11971176 Report

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>>11971075
Though not what you asked, Buddhism does seem to align better with science. Might not be true though with some of the more restrictive branches such as that practiced in Myanmar.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 01:23:25 No.11971214 Report

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>>11971176
hunter thompson 2
zen and nothingness in Tibet

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 01:28:36 No.11971225 Report

Quoted By: >>11971379

Buddhism seems to be pretty solid and help with hapiness.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:31:33 No.11971358 Report

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>>11971075
They got one thing right. We don't really exist.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:32:34 No.11971362 Report

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>>11971358
And reincarnation.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:35:20 No.11971372 Report

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You will not find any real sangha in the west. And all masters are just leftist cuckolds, new age shit. It's always about dalai lama bullshit, and Hinayana/theravada heterodoxies. In japanese communities a lot of zazen bullshit, so much bullshit of zazen that meditation start to be synonym of zazen.
Good intro book is the doctrine of the awakening.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:39:12 No.11971379 Report

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>>11971225
Who cares about happiness. You should work yourself to the bone for your species, if you care about it at all. If not, continue to be the waste of space that you are.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 02:52:04 No.11971397 Report

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>>11971075
>Is Buddhism the truth?
Yes.
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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 03:00:06 No.11971403 Report

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>>11971075
the goal of buddhism is freedom from the cycle of death and rebirth (samsara) through the cessation of desire and the cultivation of compassion for all sentient beings, in my expierience i find balanced asceticism to be the best where you only renounce things because they are not worth consuming

but personally i find freemasonry to be closer to the truth

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 04:33:23 No.11971587 Report

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>>11971075
buddhism is about observations on things innate to human experience that doubtfully can be quantified or measured
as >>11971131 mentioned it is experiential,
and as >>11971176 mentioned it is scientific in that it discards things which do not hold up to scrutiny. theraveda buddhism is more strict about "buddha was just a regular joe and none of that mythical stuff is worth a shit", zen buddhism is more about direct practice minus BS, mahayana is a lot of flavor stuff which some people like.
the ultimate truths that buddhism reveals are not falsifiable hypotheses, but i've never heard a good answer that refutes them, either

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 04:37:18 No.11971601 Report

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>>11971362
the master sits in the coffin, the two students look at one another, wondering whether the master is alive or dead. One asks the other. the other answers, "I cannot tell"

what happens after death is

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 07:57:28 No.11971878 Report

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>>11971601
Someone trying to get the next impactful moment in order to infect the most fertile and connected number of humans ever!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vfY_k0qemo&list=PLqF61tQWcaAECvd5le7g8ms2dztavjYUj&index=2&t=0s

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 08:13:11 No.11971904 Report

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op check out some writing by b. alan wallace, he comes at it from a more scientific view

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 08:14:00 No.11971906 Report

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>>11971075
It’s moral system has been falsified.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 10:08:01 No.11972125 Report

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>>11971075
Buddhism is degenerate. It is anti-life. It believes life is not worth living. Neither does it believe in an afterlife, and instead it believes in reincarnation. Because life is not worth living, but because the individual is reincarnated after his death, Buddhism comes to the conclusion that suicide is not the answer. Thus it seeks death of all conscious life by means of desensitising the individual.
Embrace Christ and you shall know the truth.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 11:39:57 No.11972279 Report

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>>11971075
No. There is no reason for an evolved lifeform to reincarnate, it confers no fitness and has no genetic basis. No reincarnation means no need for nirvana, making Buddhism untrue. Being Buddhist may be beneficial, but it isn't based on a true idea.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 11:55:41 No.11972308 Report

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>>11972125
>Buddhism is degenerate
Buddhism is the only religion whose metaphysics flat out denies the possibility of being a homosexual or a tranny.

>It believes life is not worth living
This is incorrect. Human lives are the most precious there are.

>Neither does it believe in an afterlife
This is incorrect, there's plenty of life after you die.

>it believes in reincarnation
No, it believes in rebirth. There is no "you" to incarnate this time, let alone to re-incarnate.

>Because life is not worth living
Already explained about.

>but because the individual is reincarnated after his death
Already explained above.

>Thus it seeks death of all conscious life by means of desensitising the individual.
This is not the goal, nor is it what is accomplished by Buddhism.

>Embrace Christ and you shall know the truth.
All sentient beings, even Gods, suffer, and as such need Dharma.

This is actually pretty neat, literally every single statement you made was just completely false.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 11:56:49 No.11972309 Report

Quoted By: >>11972324

>>11972279
Correct, which is why Buddhists do not believe in reincarnation, they believe in rebirth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 12:06:05 No.11972324 Report

Quoted By: >>11972330

>>11972309
Rebirth is also not accounted for by evolution for the same reasons.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 12:10:58 No.11972330 Report

Quoted By: >>11972339

>>11972324
Are you arguing that the atoms that compose you are destroyed upon your death, and that they were created ex nihilo upon your birth? Because that's literally the only way rebirth as Buddhism describes it ISN'T possible (Buddhist thinkers would argue more than just the bodily material can be used in rebirth, but this is really besides the point). We could quibble about what composes you to get reborn, and the mechanisms of it, but I can't see how you could seriously argue against this.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 12:15:57 No.11972336 Report

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>>11971075
The head is too big, please fix.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 12:16:40 No.11972339 Report

Quoted By: >>11972360

>>11972330
Atoms aren't what achieves nirvana. Base matter is not what Buddhism seeks to address, to argue otherwise is to ignore the history of Buddhist beliefs.
>Buddhist thinkers would argue more than just the bodily material can be used in rebirth, but this is really besides the point
That's not besides the point, that is the point. Proscribing certain behaviors as a means of influencing that which isn't bodily material to alter conditions regarding rebirth is the whole point of belief system.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 12:27:00 No.11972360 Report

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>>11972339
What, exactly, do you believe achieves Nirvana then? This entire post you've made is wrong, I'm just curious about what precisely you're getting wrong before I effortpost on this topic.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Aug 2020 12:57:36 No.11972412 Report

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>>11972360
No one, someone, and everyone achieves nirvana. Its a matter of perspective.

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