>>11921894>It is the result of the implementation of communist ideals.Yes, I said that already, but it really changes nothing.
>It was started as such, behaved as such, and still declares itself as such.By that sentence I assume you agree with me that it isn't anymore...
> Mao was as much a communist as anybody ever was.Of course, that is pretty much undeniable.
>What point are you even trying to make here?China is not a communist country and implying that it is, is the greatest argument for communism in existence.
As, despite it flaws, it is an economically successful country, unlike any regime that ever tried to implement "worker control of the means of production".
Just imagine what *if* China was a communist country, then that would mean you could have a successful economy and that the only thing stopping successful Communism is a lack of democracy.
If you actually talk to communist they *love* to claim China as a successful example of communism.
>It’s as ridiculous as saying no Christian has ever murdered someone because a true Christian wouldn’t do that.Well, if someone calls himself a Christian but openly worships Satan, I think it might be correct to point out that, despite his claims, he is not in any meaningful way a Christian.
>retarded notionIf the word "communism" means anything then it has to mean "worker control over the means of production".
>This IS communism at the state levelNo. The workers do not control the means of production.
>good will and cooperation between the governmentI never said anything about good will. And OBVIOUSLY there was cooperation, wiling one or unwillig one, but cooperation nonetheless.
>your boner for communismI have anything but a boner for communism and I don't know how you get the idea.
I also have to say that I am very much not a communist and am very much against communism or its direct predecessor, the french revolution (together with its imitations, like the German or American revolutions).
