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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 20:51:38 2020 No.11911146 View Reply Original Report

Hey guys America here.
Should I colonize mars or buy a new Aircraft carrier? My last one broke down. They both cost about the same.
I'm leaning towards the aircraft carrier. :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 20:53:28 No.11911151 Report

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Buy 5 new carriers and spit on the JWST so they delay it another 5 years

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 21:01:08 No.11911175 Report

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>>11911146
In all seriousness, American military strategy needs to move past carriers as power projection. I'm not sure what form it would take, but we can't rely on carriers forever.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 21:11:47 No.11911204 Report

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>>11911175
Pretty sure its an aesthetic at this point.

The form it should take is a distributed and decentralized satellite array that operates on a smart contract programmed by a suprality of nations

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 21:45:39 No.11911220 Report

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>>11911146
ISS has cost 100+ billion so far. Colonizing mars without any conceivable return would probably cost in the trillions. The only way significant human habitation of space is going to occur is if it pays for itself, either limited space tourism, or for some reason we need humans to mine stuff rather than robots.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 21:47:56 No.11911224 Report

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>>11911146
I'm gonna go ahead and guarantee you the left side costs at least 100x what it is labeled as.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 21:50:36 No.11911231 Report

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>>11911146
We are better off colonizing the oceans , fixing the pollution and creating better alternative fuel thats abundant in our solar system. 4 Billion my ass it would cost far more than that.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 21:53:34 No.11911238 Report

Quoted By: >>11911619 >>11915289 >>11915335

*sinks ur $5 billion carrier with a $3 million torpedo*

heh... nothin personnel... kid...

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 21:57:40 No.11911249 Report

Quoted By: >>11916403

>>11911146

aircraft carriers recover space capsules after re-entry, dip

also: the aircraft carrier that caught fire didn't even cost a billion, it has a diesel generator

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 22:01:22 No.11911261 Report

Quoted By: >>11911546 >>11911619 >>11912309

>>11911175

You're misinformed if you think the military relies exclusively on carriers, it's just the most visible. Our nuclear triad is comprised of strategic bombers, submarines, and carriers. The former two are based exclusively out of the US, so 99% of humanity will never ever see it as bombers and submarines only fly/sail into a handful of bases. Carriers are a practical means of escorting regular Navy ships, but are also nuclear armed for this purpose. Becuase the regular Navy goes everywhere, carriers go everywhere so people see them more.

This is reflected in US gov't spending, carriers are expensive but per unit lifecycle they aren't close to what a new top-of-the-line Columbia Class submarine or B-21 costs. A carrier can do more things than sit in a hangar and occasionally do test flights, and a carrier does not require highly specialized equipment in the way a submarine does.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 22:04:43 No.11911266 Report

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>>11911224
You are being highly optimistic. Try 100,000 times more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 23:39:39 No.11911504 Report

Quoted By: >>11911592

Kinetic weapons and swarms of drones launched from ships much smaller than carriers or from aircraft will take on the roles currently fulfilled by aircraft carriers.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 23:51:52 No.11911533 Report

Quoted By: >>11911615

>>11911146
How about 4 billion / month for your mars colony??
Why should earth keep shipping its precious resources to another planet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 Jul 2020 23:57:53 No.11911546 Report

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>>11911175
carriers will be important until warfare between nations on Earth stops
>>11911261
>and a carrier does not require highly specialized equipment in the way a submarine does.
except for the aircraft, and the em catapults, and the nuclear reactors

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 00:17:04 No.11911588 Report

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>>11911546
>except for the aircraft, and the em catapults, and the nuclear reactors
The Richard was conventionally powered and relied on VTOL aircraft for its air wing. The only specialized piece of equipment on board an LHD is the well deck.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 00:18:07 No.11911592 Report

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>>11911504
That range tho

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 00:26:05 No.11911607 Report

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>>11911146
>aircraft carrier
That wasn't a carrier you fucking retard.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 00:29:08 No.11911615 Report

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>>11911533
It's not even close to 4b, it's closer to 4 trillion, maybe more. This is another fucking planet we're talking about here.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 00:30:55 No.11911619 Report

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>>11911238
A single torpedo wouldn't take down a carrier, and carriers rarely travel alone.

>>11911261
That's not the nuclear triad, it is land based missiles (silos), sea based missiles (boomer subs), and air based missiles (bombers). Yes, carriers are capable of launching nuclear armed aircraft, but most are based out of Nebraska and Aviano I think.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 02:59:57 No.11911887 Report

Quoted By: >>11912079 >>11913717 >>11914369

>>11911619
>A single torpedo wouldn't take down a carrier
Yes, it would.
>and carriers rarely travel alone
It doesn't matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L26RZdmQ2nE

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 03:30:28 No.11911939 Report

Quoted By: >>11911978 >>11916606

>>11911175
Light carriers are cool with vtol aircraft. Big ass carriers are stupid and unnecessary.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 03:51:20 No.11911978 Report

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>>11911939
"Power projection"
See, we're talking about 'em

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 04:16:40 No.11912011 Report

Quoted By: >>11912513 >>11915694

>>11911146
>hey guys should I invest in elon musk / reddit meme or the most powerful naval hardware ever conceived.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 04:59:12 No.11912079 Report

Quoted By: >>11915938 >>11916089

>>11911887
A single torpedo absolutely would not, under any circumstances, sink a Nimitz class carrier. Also you may like to know that I rubbed my bare cock and balls on both of the nuclear reactors on the carrier featured in this video.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 05:07:30 No.11912096 Report

Quoted By: >>11912101

>>11911619
>based out of Nebraska
I think missile command is based in nebraska. But the silos are all over the plains.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 05:11:26 No.11912101 Report

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>>11912096
> the silos are all over the plains.
Yes, there are silos in both Dakotad, Montana, Wyoming, and I'm fairly positive but not sure in Idaho and Colorado as well.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 05:14:07 No.11912104 Report

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>>11912101
I'm sure there are some in colorado because NORAD.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 05:27:01 No.11912125 Report

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>>11911619
>carriers rarely travel alone.
Carriers dont travel alone period.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 06:24:49 No.11912205 Report

Quoted By: >>11915940

>>11911146
Good point. US sucks at investing. You need to get out of imperialism fast. Otherwise even the Europeans might outrun you in the space race.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 07:34:05 No.11912309 Report

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>>11911261
>Our nuclear triad
Please educate your President on this.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 09:29:36 No.11912513 Report

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>>11912011
>Space is a meme
lol

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 09:39:30 No.11912536 Report

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>>11911146

America is turning into such a joke its unreal. In 2015 the biggest controversy was determining what color a picture of a dress was.

The Chinese made TikTok and are laughing their fucking asses off that the West spends all their time making "viral videos" while the Chinese are fully mapping the human brain and building the next generation of processors etc...

It's a fucking joke.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 09:45:44 No.11912540 Report

Quoted By: >>11912564 >>11912594 >>11913616 >>11915943 >>11915979 >>11915981

>>11912536
Exactly. Prepare for lying dormant for a while, dear West. Your politicians and role models fucked it up big time.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 10:07:29 No.11912564 Report

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>>11912540
this was a result of long term subversion policies dating back to the frankfurt school. look up Yuri Bezmenov.
or the Clintons selling out americans to china in the 90s.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 10:15:16 No.11912577 Report

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>>11911146
>estimated cost

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 10:17:14 No.11912584 Report

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>>11912564

Fascinating.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 10:20:09 No.11912588 Report

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>>11912564
>Yuri Bezmenov
Huh, didn't know that guy. Thanks for the info. The selling out to Chinese is happening in Europe as well by the way. They also deterred the Russians so they don't really have any support left.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 10:22:58 No.11912592 Report

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>>11912588
Also try Edward Bernays

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 10:24:13 No.11912594 Report

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>>11912564
>>11912540
at this point only an open war with china could safe the west from becoming its slave. I mean sure there is the possibility of china and the us to get nuked but thats a risk i am willing to take.
Just imagine what the alternative would be, a world that is dominated by mainland chinese culture. I see how the west ist corrupt and unjust in many way but the chink level of corruption is just insane.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 10:27:43 No.11912597 Report

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>>11912594
collapse of the three gorges dam would do it.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 10:28:14 No.11912599 Report

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>>11912594
This is true. This is why we need more naval carriers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 10:35:45 No.11912617 Report

Quoted By: >>11912620

>>11912594
It's made much worse by the industrial level of espionage the chinese have and technology stealing the chinese have either stolen or paid Israel who stole it.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 10:36:58 No.11912620 Report

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>>11912617
Based. Fuck america. Isreal and china and america all have nukes. This is why we need to consider the options we do have in space, if we must.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 10:37:26 No.11912621 Report

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>>11912597
some anon memed this a couple weeks ago

i always asked myself if there is a possability to destory it in a covert operation. Maybe using a laser and weaken its structure over the course of a couple months or years.

Using Uyghurs muslim terrorist as cover to simply blowing it up
Hijacking the chink commandstructure and ordering them to bombard it ... something like that

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 10:40:37 No.11912626 Report

Quoted By: >>11912628 >>11912635

>>11912594
>at this point only an open war with china could safe the west from becoming its slave

Uggg this slave, master mindset is exactly why the west is losing.

Nothing short of a complete rethinking of Western thought will save the West. War has very little to do with it. Go read the Tao, the book that guides Chinese thought. Their success is not because of war.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 10:41:48 No.11912628 Report

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>>11912626
blah blah blah chinese success who cares

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 10:47:02 No.11912633 Report

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Given how much chinese manhua I've read I'm given the impression that china ruling the world would be a distopia.

I recognise the limits to the interpretation given the comparison between american culture and american comics but I think there is much to be gleaned about national psyche from their literary attitude

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 10:49:06 No.11912634 Report

Quoted By: >>11912652 >>11912816

>>11912621
>Uyghurs muslim terrorist as cover to simply blowing it up

Westerners are not even pretending anymore like they don't use poor Muslims for their dirty work... how long until they start openly talking about the fact that Bush Sr. And the Bin Ladin patriarch were in the same board room together on 9-11, and because they coowned an oil and weapons company that just so happened to be the sole beneficiary of the ensuing Iraq and Afghan wars? 100 investigations into Hillarys emails, zero into the FACT that Bush Sr and the head of the Binadin family coowned the main benefactor of the Iraq War and WERE IN THE SAME BOARDROOM ON 9-11. FACT.

and FYI, I am a Westerner, but the writing is on the walls. You all are literally not smart enough to lead the world. Just look at your responses in this thread, "herp derp we need to go to war with China" you all are getting played simultaneously by China and the defense companies. There is no surer path to Western subservience than declaring war on China.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 10:49:15 No.11912635 Report

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>>11912626
>Nothing short of a complete rethinking of Western thought will save the West
that my anon is sadly impossible, we have to look for solution for the chinese problem that are within our reach

Their success is not because of war.
I argue their success is based on the absence of real war, they conduct unrestricted warfare, they consider themself at war with us, but we never answer, we never fight back.
read pic related anon, its literally the chink version of mein kampf. they give away what they are/going to do just like hitler.

my hope is that our elites realise this soon, i believe many started to do so during the first corona wave

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 10:50:34 No.11912637 Report

Quoted By: >>11912642

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 10:52:36 No.11912641 Report

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So you don't think the nuclear Nash equilibrium will save us again this time?
I don't know, nuclear destruction seems pretty undesirable for all sides.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 10:52:41 No.11912642 Report

Quoted By: >>11912648

>>11912637
>Like you did with trump even though people like me told you everything that would happen if you elected him. So go ahead, touch the stove.
because Hillary was worse

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 10:58:01 No.11912648 Report

Quoted By: >>11912655 >>11912663 >>11912665

>>11912642
>because Hillary was worse

Hillary would have been perfectly fine and stable. Germany has a woman in charge and they are doing fine. I know its against your religion or whatever to let women be in charge, but even North Korea is beyond that. Jesus let that sink in :-/

Hilary is like Snowball in animal farm.

Fuck it. Like I said. Touch the stove.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:01:07 No.11912652 Report

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>>11912634
>Western subservience
anon i know. We do not live in a real democarcy, our elites start wars and kill people for their personal gain, that true yes.

But china is all that and soooo much more. Yes the western population is in a way enslaved or rather guided by elits BUT they are too tied to some rules to some laws not always but most of the time. Chink elites are not, they treat their own far worse than our elits treat us so imagine what they will do to us.

And to your point
>poor Muslims
they are pawns just like us, they are to be used, just like us. So lets better use them for something good this time.

so my point is that even if a war with china leads into subservience, its still a better way than the one that leads to subservience to china that we are now on

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:01:19 No.11912653 Report

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>>11912594
Based.
Fuck China.

Lying, blood-soaked, totalitarian communist regime built on stolen technology and slave labor, now rolling out the social credit system to enslave all the bugmen into a 1984-style Orwellian surveillance dystopia.

I'd rather have another 100 years of Amerimutt supremacy than being a slave to the CCP.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:01:45 No.11912655 Report

Quoted By: >>11912665

>>11912648
>Hilary is like Snowball in animal farm

In the sense that she is constantly scape goated.

I rewatched the last presidential debates with her and Trump and they are even worse than I remember. Trump was, and is, completely off his rocker on amphetamines. Clear as day. No wonder Hitler worshippers like him so much.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:02:52 No.11912658 Report

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>>11911146
Fixed your pic OP

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:07:29 No.11912662 Report

Quoted By: >>11912669

>>11912652
>But china is all that and soooo much more. Yes the western population is in a way enslaved or rather guided by elits BUT they are too tied to some rules to some laws not always but most of the time. Chink elites are not, they treat their own far worse than our elits treat us so imagine what they will do to us.

Maybe... i don't know enough about it. All I know is that 9-11 and the middle east wars was absolutely fucked, and Trump is doing things right now (basically using Covid as an excuse to lead a global wide raid of tax payer money) that is just as bad. I know you all might think that Trump is some beacon of light but I am at least as smart as he is and see every move he is making, and you all will turn on him just like you all did to Bush when your thoughts finally catch on to what he is really doing.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:07:29 No.11912663 Report

Quoted By: >>11912667 >>11912673

>>11912648
merkel is nothing like clinton anon
NOTHING. Merkel is a benevolent motherfigure, yes she is /was pro business but also pro (german) socialstate. Hillary was corrupt to her core, it was her husband and her that allowed the chinese to ascend, hell he even gave them the seat of Taiwan (real china) in the United Nations Security Council.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:08:54 No.11912665 Report

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>>11912648
>>11912655
You guys are really ignorant of just what Hillary Clinton actually is aren't you?
Have you ever looked into the blatant criminality of the Clinton foundation?
Are you aware she is currently fighting against an upcoming trial?
Perhaps you should look up the connection between Obama and SABUD.
As much as I dislike the guy, with Trump you dodged a huge and I mean HUGE bullet.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:09:56 No.11912667 Report

Quoted By: >>11912679 >>11913621 >>11915948

>>11912663
Merkel flooded Europe with Rapists.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:12:08 No.11912669 Report

Quoted By: >>11912677 >>11912679 >>11912685 >>11912710 >>11913418

>>11912662
Dude i dont give a fuck about trump.

I am for whoever finally starts a real war with china. Western elits a bad yes But if you dont know how bad chinese elites are... you really should not talk until you found out for yourself.

Trust me the shit you are mad about (excuse to lead a global wide raid of tax payer money) is NOTHING compared to the shit the chinks are doing

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:13:40 No.11912673 Report

Quoted By: >>11912696 >>11912697

>>11912663

I wasn't old enough during the Clinton years. All I know other than the Monica thing is that he balanced the budget and there was very little controversy other than Monica - nothing too serious happened in the world, and same for Obama.

I was old enough for Bush and to know that the fuckery that went on under him (and now Trump) is anti-human at best and anti-Christ at worst.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:17:02 No.11912677 Report

Quoted By: >>11912696 >>11912697

>>11912669
>Trust me the shit you are mad about (excuse to lead a global wide raid of tax payer money)

I hope you realize that shit lead directly to the global riots. Trump talks law and order but his actions caused the riots. There was almost pandemic under Obama, and almost massive riots under him too, but he did his job.

What is coming next is likely civil war, and then global war because of Trump policy. And they knew it would lead to that. They profit from our blood.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:17:33 No.11912679 Report

Quoted By: >>11912685 >>11912687 >>11915318 >>11915948

>>11912667
in a way yes.

but also no. See she had either the choice of giving a firing order to defend germanys boarders or let them in and then to try to redirtribute them in the rest of the eu. I am not saying she made the best choice because i dont know what would have happened but even if she invited each in every muslim to come to the eu personaly... she is still nothing like clinton

she was a factor for stability, trust me germany, the eu and yes even america and the rest of the world will miss her.

pic is btw what happend to many people from this >>11912669 pic

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:19:40 No.11912685 Report

Quoted By: >>11912705

>>11912679
>pic is btw what happend to many people from this >>11912669 # pic

Explain?

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:20:01 No.11912687 Report

Quoted By: >>11916323

>>11912679
....no

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:24:11 No.11912696 Report

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>>11912677
because as I'm quite sure you are aware but ignoring the DNC stoked the riots.
>>11912673
you need to look into just what damage clinton's policies actually did.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:24:14 No.11912697 Report

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>>11912677
>>11912673

i see all your points but you dont know what the chinse are, what they do. Sometimes you have to see the world from a macro perspective.

china is basically Nazigermany and Stalinrussia combined and augmented with modern technology and softpower.
They are a threat not only to our social wellfare like trump and his handlers but to humanity as a whole, the coronavirus pandemic is but only the latetest and sure not the last proof of this

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:27:22 No.11912705 Report

Quoted By: >>11912708 >>11912717

>>11912685
>Explain?
its the human version of this. After they are dead they cut out all organs and sell them around the world. Thats also the reason why the chinese numbers of organtransplants are far far higher than that what woul be possible with the number of registered chinese doners

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:27:42 No.11912706 Report

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>>11911220
A large part of that 100+ billion is the 2 billion per shuttle launches, but still 4b to colonize mars is ridiculous

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:28:24 No.11912708 Report

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>>11912705

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:29:06 No.11912710 Report

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>>11912669
What was this from?

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:29:32 No.11912712 Report

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>>11911146
How the fuck can it cost 4 billion dollars to build a fucking boat? I don't care how big it is. Just shows how inefficient government lead projects are. This is why private enterprise will be what colonises space.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:33:38 No.11912717 Report

Quoted By: >>11912721 >>11912729

>>11912705

I figured that... do you have a source?

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:37:04 No.11912721 Report

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>>11912717
I think it's the Hong Kong riots.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:45:10 No.11912729 Report

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>>11912717
not one for the apart in the pic,
but for the organ harvesting, you also can just google forced organ harvest. Most articles are about Falun Gong or Uyghurs but they also do it to prisoners that they cant "reeducate".
I also dont believe that they have standard procedure for it. In some places they kill you first in others you only get anesthetized and in others they dont even to this but restrain you and cut away. And they do it even to children, some reports claim

Now naturally i dont believe that all reports / articles are true to 100% but many things in them repeat and seem consistend

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-china-rights/china-is-harvesting-organs-from-falun-gong-members-finds-expert-panel-idUSKCN1TI236

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 11:46:12 No.11912730 Report

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>>11912729
apparatus*

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 12:41:33 No.11912816 Report

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>>11912634
>not even pretending
When have they ever you /his/let?

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 17:49:16 No.11913346 Report

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>>11911175
Carriers serve a role distinct from power projection in a near-peer conflict. Yes, they'd be useful in a war against China or Russia, but their real purpose is allowing the US to keep a bunch of third worlders in line without having to build improved runways and facilities everywhere they need to bomb someone. They're also immensely useful humanitarian tools. Finally, the entrenchment of the carrier is at the same place BBs were in the 1930s. There is a very powerful lobby within the Navy, comprised of carrier captains (who most commonly become the highest ranking admirals), and Naval aviators (who become some of the most politically influential alums of the Navy).

>>11911146
A colony like that picture would cost fucking trillions of dollars. The ISS alone was $150 billion...

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 18:16:05 No.11913401 Report

Quoted By: >>11913418

>>11911175
Sub nautic aircraft carriers that rocket propel the aircraft out of water when it can operate on it's own once in air.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 18:21:31 No.11913416 Report

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>>11912729

If this is what conservatives are saying and don't have a smoking gun proof than that is more likely proof that conservatives are organ harvesting, perhaps using the Afghans.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 18:22:00 No.11913418 Report

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>>11911175
the carriers are there, nobody wants to scrap them but they're basically large missile cruisers with extra steps right now
>>11912669
china just has way too much money to stop
>>11913401
japan fucked with that in ww2, at that point why not just make the subs fire missiles directly?

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 19:31:49 No.11913616 Report

Quoted By: >>11913679

>>11912540
>Your politicians and role models fucked it up big time.
China has 40 year plans, the US doesn't even have a 4 year plan

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Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 19:32:51 No.11913621 Report

Quoted By: >>11915948

>>11912667
everybody makes mistakes, and there was popular demand for her to take in refugees anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 19:48:15 No.11913679 Report

Quoted By: >>11913784

>>11913616
Sometimes 8 years. But yes, you're right. They already outsmarted us.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 19:58:57 No.11913717 Report

Quoted By:

>>11911887
It says in that video that it was multiple hits over multiple runs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Jul 2020 20:17:40 No.11913784 Report

Quoted By: >>11914370

>>11913679
The sheer fact even during fully blue or red governments we cant accomplish any lasting reform shows we don't even have 2 year plans. The only long term plan that has been working in the US is how to enrich the 1% - they consistently have policies in their favor long term. Meanwhile poor people bicker over stupid shit like immigrants when they pay out the ass for healthcare and their wages have been stagnant even in fields with little to no immigrants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 01:02:36 No.11914366 Report

Quoted By:

>>11911175

Carriers are the best method of force projection. It would be ideal, however, to replace human rated fighters with UAVs. Minimal human requirement, maximum AO value, maximum gravity rating with equal to superior munition projection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 01:04:35 No.11914369 Report

Quoted By:

>>11911887
A single torpedo will not sink any competent countries carrier

t. submariner

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 01:04:38 No.11914370 Report

Quoted By: >>11914392

>>11913784
benefit of a monarchy but then again The UK is pretty fucked as it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 01:26:16 No.11914392 Report

Quoted By: >>11914402

>>11914370
The problem with monarchy is that you have higher highs and lower lows. Both democracies and monarchies have the problem that as time goes on corruption seeps into the government and they become pretty inept - but at least with a functioning democracy there is a chance you can overturn an inept government within your lifetime peacefully.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 01:30:46 No.11914402 Report

Quoted By: >>11914640

>>11914392
Monarchs technically have incentives that others lack. but they're prone to stupidity and inbreeding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 03:07:59 No.11914640 Report

Quoted By: >>11914669

>>11914402
>Monarchs technically have incentives that others lac
expand on this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 03:19:26 No.11914669 Report

Quoted By:

>>11914640
Long term generational wealth and monopoly, they basically become the country and have an interest in the performance of it to some extent. does not always work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 03:22:05 No.11914674 Report

Quoted By:

>>11911146
The US doesnt have public support for a new space program/colonization program, they do however have constant public and private support for the military.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 08:06:48 No.11915172 Report

Quoted By:

>>11911175
>can have an airforce base anywhere in the world
they're here to stay

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 08:42:16 No.11915242 Report

Quoted By: >>11915264

So /pol/ is moving into /sci/ to argue about China and the USA?

This doesn't seem constructive guys. Can't you help us cure cancer and get to the moon and beyond instead?

China is just the stick that motivates us. Eveybody seems too blind to see the carrot. To be free of Chinas influence, accessing the rare earth elements on the moon would be a mighty step in the right direction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 08:51:01 No.11915264 Report

Quoted By: >>11915277 >>11915286

>>11915242
There are rare earths on the moon?
WTF are we waiting for???

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 08:56:51 No.11915277 Report

Quoted By: >>11915330

>>11915264
According to either Isaac Arthur or Anton Petrov from the yootoob yea. But I forget which or what video. They both produce a lot of content.

I am thinking it was probably Anton.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 09:01:54 No.11915286 Report

Quoted By: >>11915330

>>11915264
there's rare earths all over, the reason china produces a ton isn't so much that they have better deposits but that they don't give a fuck about the massive environmental damage that extracting them creates

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 09:02:49 No.11915289 Report

Quoted By: >>11915308

>>11911238
>swedish submarine
All available unused interior space has been converted to living quarters so that many more africans could be transported to sweden. I am glad they finally found a good use for their sub.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 09:14:46 No.11915308 Report

Quoted By:

>>11915289
Dont forget the African minister of culture in Sweden had viking artifacts melted down just for the fuck of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 09:22:29 No.11915318 Report

Quoted By:

>>11912679
>>11912708
>this kills the chinaman

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 09:26:32 No.11915326 Report

Quoted By:

thats not an aircraft carrier thats a marine amphibious assault ship

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 09:27:37 No.11915330 Report

Quoted By:

>>11915277
>>11915286
Well then LET'S FUCKING GO!
I know people who can design engines, I can simulate and do data analysis, I'm also good at attracting investors. We need people to design and build the vessel itself, harvesting robots and someone good at marketing and selling that shit.
When do we start?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 09:30:39 No.11915335 Report

Quoted By:

>>11911238
Literally.

What the fuck.

We should be using that money to build fucking jetpacks, space bases on the moon, flying cars and libraries and shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 10:38:58 No.11915457 Report

Quoted By: >>11915559 >>11915677

>>11911146
>scientist invent carbon tax
>tax money gibs for negro and tranny public school propaganda
thanks scientist

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 11:55:05 No.11915559 Report

Quoted By: >>11915923

>>11915457
You're kidding. Right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 13:34:17 No.11915677 Report

Quoted By:

>>11915457
>educashyon bad
>public schools bad
This is why China is beating you.
https://youtu.be/PO9Bw-o8iF4

Next step after Chang'e 5 is a permanent Chink base on the Moon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 13:46:13 No.11915694 Report

Quoted By: >>11915946

>>11912011
>Investing in a Starbound future
>Wasting money on a gigantic boat for the sole purpose of terrorizing other countries

Wew this is a tough decision

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 15:51:51 No.11915923 Report

Quoted By:

>>11915559
>surprised to see a racist on 4chan
4channel only newfag?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 15:56:19 No.11915930 Report

Quoted By:

>>11911175
Nuclear propulsed hypersonic nuclear warhead tipped drones, millions of them. That and more nuclear submarines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 16:00:32 No.11915938 Report

Quoted By:

>>11912079
Many a sailor did probably

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 16:01:34 No.11915940 Report

Quoted By:

>>11912205
Someone has to do the imperialism to keep the peace. Better the US than China.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 16:03:00 No.11915943 Report

Quoted By:

>>11912594
>>>11912564
>>>11912540
>at this point only an open war with china could safe the west from becoming its slave.
>Just imagine what the alternative would be, a world that is dominated by mainland chinese culture.

Implying that we aren't already slaves to Israel. The only war that should be fought is against the foreign invaders already here and their jew masters. Everything else is a distraction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 16:06:24 No.11915946 Report

Quoted By:

>>11915694
wrong, it's actually
>wasting money on gibs for those that have proven themselves unable to contribute functionally to society to have large families

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 16:06:41 No.11915948 Report

Quoted By:

>>11913621
>>>11912667
>everybody makes mistakes, and there was popular demand for her to take in refugees anyway

Hello Jewy Jewington the Third. Not there wasn't. No one wants foreign invaders except your skaven friends.

>>11912679
>she had either the choice of giving a firing order to defend germanys boarders

Thats what boarders, military and police are there for. She also could have had them find any foreign invaders that slipped past the boarders and immediately kill or deport them. It was an easy problem to solve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 16:24:01 No.11915979 Report

Quoted By: >>11915981

>>11912540
>lying dormant
no way
It's civil war for sure at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 16:27:02 No.11915981 Report

Quoted By: >>11915984 >>11916012 >>11916013 >>11916016 >>11916050

>>11915979
>>>11912540
>>lying dormant
>no way
>It's civil war for sure at this point.

Yeah the civil war has already started. Those terroristic riots, where they racial attack people, and the militias defending places like the Alamo is the start. Caucasians will form defensive gangs. Those gangs will team up with and form militias. The police will be fucked by both sides and die like boot lickers should.

Form and join a local defense gang today anons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 16:29:08 No.11915984 Report

Quoted By: >>11916012

>>11915981
Already part of one ;)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 16:45:34 No.11916012 Report

Quoted By: >>11916014

>>11915984
>>>11915981 (You)
>Already part of one ;)

Based.

How long do you think the police will last. They are hated by both sides and ordered to not arrest the libtards. I think police will be defunded and replaced by the UN around the election. It will be a coup that normies won't understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 16:46:16 No.11916013 Report

Quoted By: >>11916075

>>11915981
based glowie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 16:46:55 No.11916014 Report

Quoted By:

>>11916012
>I think police will be defunded and replaced by the UN around the election. It will be a coup that normies won't understand.
huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 16:48:03 No.11916016 Report

Quoted By: >>11916075

>>11915981
I don't even care if this is glowposting, the need for collective defense is pretty obvious at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 17:12:16 No.11916050 Report

Quoted By: >>11916068 >>11916076

>>11915981
This is not /pol/ glowie. Go back.

Here we plan to defund the police and replace them with autonomic sentient robot dogbots backed up by the military.

Does your kith wish to be next? Very few people can be trusted with authority.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 17:22:33 No.11916068 Report

Quoted By:

>>11916050
Like this?

Might take a while for the boomers to get used to them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 17:24:19 No.11916075 Report

Quoted By: >>11916167 >>11916191

>>11916013
>>11916016
>I don't even care if this is glowposting, the need for collective defense is pretty obvious at this point.

100% this. If they are arresting people just because of their race or because of the covid scam, who cares about the glowie, fed list shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 17:25:32 No.11916076 Report

Quoted By: >>11916099

>>11916050
>Here we plan to defund the police and replace them with autonomic sentient robot dogbots backed up by the military.
>Does your kith wish to be next? Very few people can be trusted with authority.

Go back to San Francisco with the rest of the faggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 17:26:42 No.11916080 Report

Quoted By: >>11916134

Europeans need their warrior/priest/king class to come back and depose the degenerate mercantilists

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 17:27:45 No.11916083 Report

Quoted By:

Colonizing Mars is more like $500B

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 17:30:30 No.11916089 Report

Quoted By:

>>11912079
the Soviets built hundreds of torpedos that each carried a 10kt nuclear warhead, and the Russians still have them in inventory. a single one of those will absolutely sink that expensive-ass carrier

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 17:34:05 No.11916099 Report

Quoted By: >>11916176

>>11916076
Bloody yankees. You deserve your president.

Board containment is such a leaky sieve.

AI for future world president!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 17:47:36 No.11916134 Report

Quoted By: >>11916145 >>11916227

>>11916080
>Europeans need their warrior/priest/king class to come back and depose the degenerate mercantilists

The Professors and Scientists are trying to be the need priest class. But they have to lie and defraud real science to fit their policy objectives. See Climategate or the current covid scam.

The real problem is the foreign invasion. Until the invaders are killed or forced out, nothing else matters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 17:49:09 No.11916137 Report

Quoted By:

>>11911146
This is stupid. Adjusted for inflation it took like $300b to land on the moon. Even the Mars River was over 2 billion. It would take a lot more than a few billion to colonize Mars

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 17:52:06 No.11916145 Report

Quoted By: >>11916227

>>11916134
>The real problem is the foreign invasion.
Enabled by the mercantalists that have taken over our governing bodies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 17:52:41 No.11916146 Report

Quoted By:

>>11911146
>4 billion to build a mars colony
you are actually really fucking foolish and it's shit like this that is the most irritating part about pop science.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 17:59:41 No.11916167 Report

Quoted By: >>11916191

>>11916075
Now why would nurses support a protest of police brutality but not a protest to end the lock down?
Its hilarious that someone spent all that time making this picture with out realizing how dumb and obvious it is.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 18:04:44 No.11916176 Report

Quoted By:

>>11916099

Gee faggots got to suck cock.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 18:09:05 No.11916191 Report

Quoted By: >>11916345

>>11916167
>>>11916075 (You)
>Now why would nurses support a mass gatherings during a supposed pandemic but not a protest to end the medical tyranny of said pandemic?

Fixed it for you. Its hilarious that someone spent the mental effort on the cognitive dissonance for the establishment without realizing how stupid the establishment is and how obvious the scam is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 18:20:27 No.11916227 Report

Quoted By: >>11916259 >>11916304 >>11916314

>>11916134
>>11916145
Sorry guys but money rules the world now and to change that we would have to go back to the stone age and then it would inevitably rear its warty head above the waves once more.

If you are looking for a scapegoat to blame for immigration then blame white men for empowering white women so now they spend more time working and less time having and raising white babies.

Some of the other races certainly are more productive and I like having them around. The white folk do have the edge on innovation though.

t. racist without predjudice or discrimination

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 18:32:14 No.11916259 Report

Quoted By: >>11916438

>>11916227
>blame white men
I do. I blame fucking retarded fucks like you who can't comprehend fucking basics like infinite growth on a finite planet is impossible.
If fertility rate of <2.1 is unsustainable then so is fertility rate of >2.1

DUMBASS

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 18:47:24 No.11916304 Report

Quoted By:

>>11916227
>(((white men)))

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 18:50:43 No.11916314 Report

Quoted By: >>11916323 >>11916438

>>11916227
>instead of blaming the NGO's importing them and pushing them to come or the media that does the same or the people behind laws that allows them to come blame white men for not stopping this mysterious group of individuals
>t. not part of said group honest

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 18:52:57 No.11916323 Report

Quoted By:

>>11916314
>>11912687

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 18:53:14 No.11916324 Report

Quoted By:

>>11911146
How about collapsing, balkanizing and turning into a racist white ethnostate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:01:59 No.11916345 Report

Quoted By: >>11916352

>>11916191
Ah yea, the brave cause of "i want to go back to Starbucks again" vs "police should be accountable for their actions" And look at the results, its not the protesting cities that are hit the hardest now, it is the states that opened up too early.

Also, "Medical tyranny" what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:04:20 No.11916352 Report

Quoted By: >>11916361

>>11916345
>"police should be accountable for their actions"
no one disputes this but just why do blacks commit so much crime?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:07:49 No.11916361 Report

Quoted By: >>11916383

>>11916352
That is a separate issue. You're like a kid that blames his little sister for something she did when you got caught by your mother. Grow a pair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:14:43 No.11916383 Report

Quoted By: >>11916418 >>11916435

>>11916361
>That is a separate issue
not really, you had riots led by an avoutely black supremacist group following the death of some street thug the whole justification for the riots was apparently based on the unfair treatment of black criminals despite the statistics proving otherwise. This apparently led to prominent celebrities and news organisations encouraging large groups of people to gather in huge crowds and destroy property in complete disregard to this apparent disease crisis.
Your attempts at deflection seem more unsettling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:18:37 No.11916403 Report

Quoted By:

>>11911249
t. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IVJVTUNl0I

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:24:46 No.11916418 Report

Quoted By: >>11916424

>>11916383
You know, you cant just make shit up.
>you had riots led by an avoutely black supremacist group
What? never even hared this, is this from Facebook or someshit?

>unfair treatment of black criminals despite the statistics proving otherwise
What stats? This is just overwhelmingly not true. Study after study shows unfair treatment.

>gather in huge crowds and destroy property in complete disregard to this apparent disease crisis.
Oh, was the protest at an inconvenient time? oh gee, I guess they should have rescheduled it. How about you look at the cause of the riot rather than the symptom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:26:11 No.11916424 Report

Quoted By: >>11916470

>>11916418
>Study after study shows unfair treatment.
name any

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:28:56 No.11916435 Report

Quoted By:

>>11916383
*avoutely marxist black supremacist group and some communist retards group

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:30:21 No.11916438 Report

Quoted By:

>>11916259
>>11916314
This is why I stay out of /pol/. It is impossible to debate with frothing morons. No matter what I do you will never understand basic economics and the need for population growth.

If you were not frothing over immigration you would be frothing over being poor. Which is the result of no population growth.

>infinte growth on a finite planet

Look mate. You can stay down here and revel in your jewspiracies until the lion eats grass with the ox. I thought this thread was about expanding beyond the finite. Go back. Better yet bring backup with relevant IQ because yours is lacking.

Good job destroying another thread...

t. rolling my eyes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 19:40:07 No.11916470 Report

Quoted By: >>11916652

>>11916424
Here;
http://econweb.umd.edu/~tuttle/files/tuttle_mandatory_minimums.pdf

https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/assets/141027_iachr_racial_disparities_aclu_submission_0.pdf

Now why dont you bring something to back up your claim. There are tons of studies showing similar things, its hard to find anything showing the opposite outside of /pol/ jpgs, why why dont you find that instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 20:43:01 No.11916606 Report

Quoted By:

>>11911939
>Light carriers are cool with vtol aircraft.
They don't carry enough to actually do anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 20:58:03 No.11916652 Report

Quoted By:

>>11916470
>https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/assets/141027_iachr_racial_disparities_aclu_submission_0.pdf
>aclu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Jul 2020 21:52:42 No.11916901 Report

Quoted By:

>>11911146
Hook me up with the original image of that Mars colony.

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