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does personal death exist scientifically?

Anonymous Fri 10 Jul 18:54:27 2020 No.11887733 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11888256 >>11888283 >>11888727

Anyones else afraid of naturalistic/secular immortality?
There are many views of phsyics/cosmology where personal identity survives or the person survives without his memories. Bolztmman brains,many-worlds immortality, poincare recurrence.
This isnt religious at all but its scientifically possible our ride literally has no brakes

concepts to discuss ITT.
>personal automatic immortality
>brain-dependent conciousness model
>what IS personal identity?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jul 2020 20:20:25 No.11887991 Report

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bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jul 2020 20:37:46 No.11888029 Report

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All nonsense, there is zero data indicating that you are anything but a biological machine. When you die your brain, and with it your consciousness, stops functioning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jul 2020 20:44:58 No.11888049 Report

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>>11888029
i SPIT upon your post.
it is YESSENSE not nonsense
my brain is my conciousness,yes,but i will never die,i SPIT upon your when you die

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jul 2020 20:58:00 No.11888098 Report

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But the notion that you can equate your personal continuity, with the identity of any physically real constituent of your existence, is absolutely and utterly hopeless.

You are not “the same you, because you are made of the same atoms”. You have zero overlap with the fundamental constituents of yourself from even one nanosecond ago. There is continuity of information, but not equality of parts.

The new factor over the subspace looks a whole lot like the old you, and not by coincidence: The flow of time is lawful, there are causes and effects and preserved commonalities. Look to the regularity of physics, if you seek a source of continuity. Do not ask to be composed of the same objects, for this is hopeless.

Whatever makes you feel that your present is connected to your past, it has nothing to do with an identity of physically fundamental constituents over time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jul 2020 21:52:47 No.11888256 Report

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>>11887733
Those are almost all simply copying a machine. Are twins the same person? No. A clone is just an artificial twin and nothing more, you're not gonna magically jump into their body when you die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 10 Jul 2020 22:06:25 No.11888283 Report

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>>11887733
sorry, no. consciousness arises from the meat neurons interconnections forming precepts and thus concepts, the primarily self-awareness concept being that of "I". Does a lizard have awareness? Yes, he is forever in the moment of awareness, no concept of self. This is all woo-woo fairy dust, I could go on, instead read: Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind by Julian Jaynes. It will be the biggest aha of your life, once you get it. Or not, its up to you.

Truth

Truth Sat 11 Jul 2020 01:21:33 No.11888727 Report

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>>11887733
Death amounts to Justice in a universe comprised of and animated by lies.

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