>>11849756>From proper research&development and expansion program.Mars will have a better one than anything you could do on the Moon or asteroids. Mars is better for doing things faster and in greater capacity.
>Shielding in space don't have mass limitation. Your ground base will literally be underground.Uh huh, and building underground means I have zero deep space ballistic transportation costs in order to get my shielding, whereas your orbital habitat needs to have it shipped in.
>You can't expect a population of only geologist.Not everyone who visits the grand canyon is a geologist. Mars is more grand than a thousand grand canyons. Furthermore, it will be possible to build structures such as parks that will be far larger than any orbital habitat could be, due to there being no requirement to handle the tensile strain of spinning to produce gravity.
>those analogs are what they ideally hope to achieveNo, if you knew anything you'd know that they used exact minerals as were discovered on Mars, crushed them into sand, and added the known amounts of salts etc, in order to replicate Mars soil composition as exactly as possible except for specific grain structure (due to manual crushing instead of natural erosion).
Your argument against farms on Mars is hilariously stupid because you can't farm in 'orbital soil' either, unless you can make it from raw materials, and if you can do that in space you can do it on Mars using Mars materials too, retard.
>You are just drunk on the pioneer meme that "Mars have everything" Mars DOES have everything, everything it needs to be the best first step to take at least. That's what actually matters, getting into a position that magnifies our abilities to expand into space. The Moon requires too much investment from Earth to reach any similar capacity and would perpetually rely on Earth anyway, and doing accelerated wide-range colonization from Earth itself is obviously not feasible.
