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Is the world inherently complex or simple?

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 23:21:49 2020 No.11847968 View Reply Original Report

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 23:23:43 No.11847974 Report

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>>11847968
Simplex

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 23:35:39 No.11848003 Report

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Is it possible to travel back in time?

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 23:37:53 No.11848007 Report

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>>11847968
both
very complex behaviour develops from very simple starting conditions

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Anonymous Mon 29 Jun 2020 00:23:12 No.11848194 Report

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>>11847968
>is <"or" statement>?
Yes.

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Anonymous Mon 29 Jun 2020 00:37:01 No.11848244 Report

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>>11847968
Given the role of burgeoning role of complexity theory and information theory science (thermodynamics and quantum information in physics, genetics, dynamic programming, the protein folding problem in biology, etc.) I think it’s safe to assume our mechanistic understanding of the world is best suited for it being complex.

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Anonymous Mon 29 Jun 2020 00:38:04 No.11848249 Report

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>>11848244
*in science

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Anonymous Mon 29 Jun 2020 01:02:43 No.11848327 Report

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the world is simply an array of numbers; how simple or complex is up to you

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Anonymous Mon 29 Jun 2020 01:39:07 No.11848445 Report

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>>11847968
Your arbitrary human standards of "simple" and "complex" are not universal concepts, so neither.

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Anonymous Mon 29 Jun 2020 01:40:26 No.11848450 Report

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>>11848007
ok wolfram

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Anonymous Mon 29 Jun 2020 01:47:33 No.11848474 Report

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Anonymous Mon 29 Jun 2020 01:49:13 No.11848478 Report

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>>11848450
he's right, you know

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Anonymous Mon 29 Jun 2020 02:01:06 No.11848504 Report

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>>11848450
Wolfram being a pseud doesn't mean there aren't deep connections between computation and physics. Wolfram is just intent that those connections are through stuff he's spent his life working on, which has tenuous connection past "wow nice modelling software stephen!"

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Anonymous Mon 29 Jun 2020 03:13:39 No.11848676 Report

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>>11847968
It's a simultaneous, lots of back and forth. Overall it's not a dichotomy but rather levels of complexity complimented with levels of simplicity

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Anonymous Mon 29 Jun 2020 03:53:01 No.11848807 Report

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>>11847968
complexity is just mystery you don't have an explanation for yet

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Anonymous Mon 29 Jun 2020 04:52:37 No.11849000 Report

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>>11848504
>Deep connections between computing and physics
Yes because we use physics and math to build computing devices. Your argument is equatable to "a duck is just like an electron because they have deep connections"

Fucking psueds, this website has to be full of bots otherwise the NPC meme is 100% factual.

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Anonymous Mon 29 Jun 2020 05:12:19 No.11849063 Report

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>>11849000
brainlet

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Anonymous Mon 29 Jun 2020 05:24:21 No.11849104 Report

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>>11849000
>Yes because we use physics and math to build computing devices
No dumbfuck, computation exists outside the computing machines we built. The whole fucking point of theoretical computer science is to characterize mathematically what computation is and how it plays with traditional schools of constructivism. Read https://arxiv.org/abs/2001.04383
Fucking brainlet NPC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jun 2020 05:25:23 No.11849109 Report

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>>11849000
>>between computing and physics
No, between computation and physics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jun 2020 05:31:51 No.11849120 Report

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>>11848504
>deep connections between computation and physics
>"deep connections"
The real question is are those connections between these two analog or digita, based? is our universe being simulated or dreamed?

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John Locke Mon 29 Jun 2020 05:35:13 No.11849136 Report

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>>11847974
I see you bald monkey magnet man

John Locke

John Locke Mon 29 Jun 2020 05:37:02 No.11849137 Report

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>>11847968
Simple

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