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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 18:38:23 2020 No.11829127 View Reply Original Report

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world's largest cold gas thruster edition

old thread
>>11825943

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:39:32 No.11829133 Report

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When we going mars?

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:39:56 No.11829135 Report

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BIG FUCKING CRANE

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:41:16 No.11829139 Report

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>>11829133
Starships on Mars by 2026 at the latest

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:41:16 No.11829141 Report

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>>11829127

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:41:25 No.11829143 Report

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>>11829135
for context, this is the crane they're going to be using to stack the big Super Heavy and Starship High Bay
https://www.manitowoc.com/manitowoc/lattice-boom-crawlers-cranes/18000

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:42:26 No.11829145 Report

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Anyone know what pressure it reached before exploding

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:42:27 No.11829146 Report

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>>11829141
it's just nitrogen, dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:42:33 No.11829147 Report

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>>11829135
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:43:27 No.11829151 Report

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>>11829145
the SpaceX engineers do
now we wait for them to tell Elon, and for him to brag about it on twitter

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:43:42 No.11829154 Report

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>>11829127
I wonder how many frozen animals are there in aftermath.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:43:43 No.11829156 Report

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>>11829145
I'm sure someone will post it here as soon as Elon tweets about it. Just sit back and monitor the thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:44:32 No.11829160 Report

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>>11829154
Frozen steaks for everyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:44:52 No.11829162 Report

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>>11829143
sick

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:45:26 No.11829171 Report

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>>11829133
manned starship by 2026 at latest, cargo by 2022 at earliest

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:45:54 No.11829172 Report

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>>11829127
Elons twitter silence is deafening, looks like it failed lads.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:46:16 No.11829175 Report

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oh no it exploded oh god oh fuck the sky is falling hurf derf

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:47:52 No.11829186 Report

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when will non-NASA and non-SpaceX astronauts start getting shipped to mars, as in actual colonists

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:48:59 No.11829192 Report

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>>11829156
>>11829151
any bets on over under 8,5 bar mark
betting on under

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:49:53 No.11829196 Report

Quoted By: >>11829200 >>11829217

I think Earth will collapse into anarchy shortly after a Martian colony is established.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:50:39 No.11829199 Report

Quoted By: >>11829220 >>11831596

Anons, I am going camping for three days starting tomorrow. Therefore, I will not be around to post the Falcon 9 launch thread. For the first time in years, someone else will have to post it—so, I'll just paste the OP body in /sfg/ tomorrow morning before I leave. It will have as much filled in as possible (minus livestream link etc). Then one of (you) will have to make the thread with it at the appropriate time, including the yt link etc.
Feel free to fight it out over who gets to stand-in for being the launchthread poster. This is a rare opportunity!

See you all tomorrow with the OP text. I'm off to go pack my bags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:50:42 No.11829200 Report

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>>11829196
Only US.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:52:44 No.11829204 Report

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>>11829200
That’s basically the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:53:53 No.11829209 Report

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>>11829204
all empires think they are "basically the world"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:55:17 No.11829215 Report

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>>11829204
World wasn't destroyed when Rome, Aztecs, Egypt, Mongols collapsed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:55:40 No.11829216 Report

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>>11829209
They usually are for a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:55:46 No.11829217 Report

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>>11829196
Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:55:59 No.11829220 Report

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>>11829199
what Falcon 9 launch? I thought that happened yesterday?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:56:26 No.11829221 Report

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>>11829216
Rome thought they were basically the world, but the empire in china would say otherwise...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:57:52 No.11829228 Report

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>>11829221
yeah but China collapsed on its own so fuck them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:58:25 No.11829233 Report

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>>11829220
It's on the 25th. Another batch of Starlink + a couple BlackSky Global smallsats

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:58:53 No.11829234 Report

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>>11829233
what time?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:59:01 No.11829235 Report

Quoted By: >>11829262 >>11829269 >>11829282 >>11829491 >>11830130 >>11831992

So how “alive” are spacecraft? They seem pretty autonomous and are capable of independent thought and reasoning.

Cassini also final plunge often has accounts of Cassini trying her damndest to stay oriented looking at Earth and her struggles to correct orientation in her final few seconds.

I know a lot of that is anthropomorphism, but seriously, how alive are space probes?

Also it feels...sad... when a space probe is just “shut off”. Like Kepler or Dawn. It’s almost like taking your dog to the vet to put them down.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 18:59:36 No.11829238 Report

Quoted By: >>11829253 >>11829508

>robotic space dog running around in a disaster area as if it were a scene out of a apocalyptic war with AI
2spooky4me

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:00:18 No.11829239 Report

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>>11829228
CCP china is going to collapse soon if the three gorges dam rumors are true.
So long march first stage wiping out rural chinese villages could be a thing of the past soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:01:19 No.11829243 Report

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>>11829234
4:39 PM EDT

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:02:05 No.11829251 Report

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>>11829243
fuck, work starts at 4 pm EDT for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:02:35 No.11829253 Report

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>>11829238
Can people who film this get a better lens/camera to get a closer view?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:03:19 No.11829259 Report

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>>11829253
No, atmosphere is a fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:04:23 No.11829262 Report

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>>11829235

>Are proves alive?

"AIEOU"

"UUUUUUUUUU…"

"John Madden!"
https://www.sbnation.com/a/17776-football
"Football!"

Maybe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:05:06 No.11829267 Report

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>>11829262
17776 is the best thing ever

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:05:26 No.11829269 Report

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>>11829235
>how alive are space probes?
As alive as you make them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:07:11 No.11829279 Report

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>>11829215
Yeah, but the place was shitty for a good while afterwards. It all seems ephemeral when the events are seen through the dusty pages of historical documents; but for the people involved, it was a life-changing terror.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:07:35 No.11829282 Report

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>>11829235
they're about as alive as any other autonomous robot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:08:41 No.11829287 Report

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>>11829217
Global social unrest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:10:19 No.11829293 Report

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>>11829186
2022

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:10:32 No.11829294 Report

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>>11829209
For a time, they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:11:52 No.11829298 Report

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>>11829239
>if the three gorges dam rumors are true
Which rumors are those? If the thing is breaking down already I will kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:12:11 No.11829301 Report

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>>11829287
What would cause it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:12:24 No.11829302 Report

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>>11829293
looking for serious answers

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:16:58 No.11829317 Report

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>>11829141
thanks for giving me an idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:17:50 No.11829325 Report

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>>11829298
Rain season this year has created massive flooding upriver of the 3GD and rumors say it already took out a couple of smaller dams.
A massive amount of water is underway to the dam and a lot of people are questioning if the dam could take it, partly because the dam is a shitshow and CCP is cracking down hard on the situation and claiming nothing is wrong as usual.
600 million people and most of china's economy is downstream of the dam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:18:33 No.11829328 Report

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>>11829301
I dunno, whatever is causing the current social unrest.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:19:46 No.11829332 Report

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>>11829325
come on water!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:20:25 No.11829334 Report

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India's space agency will be live tomorrow, possibly making an announcement?

Stream should be on this channel @ 06:00 UTC
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCw5hEVOTfz_AfzsNFWyNlNg/videos

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:23:13 No.11829342 Report

Quoted By: >>11829353 >>11829361

>I'd be more upset that [Senator Wicker] uses "manned" spaceflight, but so did Elaine Chao yesterday at COMSTAC. What will it take for ppl to stop using that anachronistic term? Don't they realize it just highlights how old and out of step with the times they are?
when will far left liberals stop infesting spaceflight news with their antics

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:25:11 No.11829350 Report

Quoted By: >>11829423 >>11829519

From earlier

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:25:28 No.11829352 Report

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hmmmmmm
delicious high temperature bonding agent
the forbidden fruit gusher

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:25:33 No.11829353 Report

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>>11829342
pay no attention to them they'll be let here to die soon enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:27:37 No.11829360 Report

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>>11829352
not very impressed with whoever applied the schmoo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:27:37 No.11829361 Report

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>>11829342
>when will far left liberals stop infesting spaceflight news with their antics

When they destroy human civilization

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:29:40 No.11829364 Report

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ahaha!
found it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:29:45 No.11829365 Report

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>>11829317
At first I assumed you were replying to a post about the Indian launch.

Hydrazine. Ok.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:32:34 No.11829373 Report

Quoted By: >>11829377 >>11830017

>Starship SN5 testing is scheduled to begin June 29 with a window opening at 8 am local time in Boca Chica, Texas.
>The vehicle will roll to the pad tomorrow (June 24) between 6 am - 7 am local.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:32:52 No.11829375 Report

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>>11829302
2026

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:33:30 No.11829377 Report

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>>11829373
launch when tho?

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:33:38 No.11829378 Report

Quoted By: >>11829381 >>11829383 >>11829385 >>11829386 >>11829920 >>11830151

What are the long-term goals for Mars colonisation? I'm thinking large arcologies, connected by a network of tunnels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:34:34 No.11829379 Report

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>>11829325
Kek
Let's hope we get to see Banqiao Disaster 2, Yangtze Boogaloo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:35:53 No.11829381 Report

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>>11829378
Large statues of pagan olympic and germanic gods on Olympus Mons and pyres made of niggers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:36:58 No.11829383 Report

Quoted By: >>11829394

>>11829378
How long term are you thinking?
Endgame colonization for any object is disassembly for raw materials to build orbital space habitats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:38:34 No.11829385 Report

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>>11829378
That’s a hive city right there

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:38:52 No.11829386 Report

Quoted By: >>11829408

>>11829378
Large tunnel networks connecting multiple cities ala NYC subway stations

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:41:39 No.11829394 Report

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>>11829383
based dyson swarm guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:43:50 No.11829401 Report

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>>11829385
hive cities are actually a lot bigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:43:55 No.11829402 Report

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>>11829381
Who in their right mind would use up payload margins to bring dead niggers to Mars?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:44:54 No.11829404 Report

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>>11829381
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:45:56 No.11829408 Report

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>>11829386
Normal subway trains are to slow for this. If the arcologies are far enough, you'd need something like Hyperloop. But how would you get around inside one? Elevation stations?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:50:16 No.11829419 Report

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>>11829402
It’s a moral booster

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:51:16 No.11829423 Report

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>>11829365
that also helped
>>11829350
see >>11829317

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 19:59:03 No.11829438 Report

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>>11829262
>https://www.sbnation.com/a/17776-football

What the fuck is going on in there

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:02:08 No.11829443 Report

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Does anyone know which Starship prototype will hop?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:03:44 No.11829446 Report

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>>11829443
SN5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:03:53 No.11829448 Report

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I want to achieve one or both of two things before I die of being old.

1. Get off Earth
2. Modify my anatomy to the extent I am no longer human

Dunno if that’ll be possible tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:03:58 No.11829449 Report

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>>11829443
sn7

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:03:59 No.11829450 Report

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>>11829443
>>11829127

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:05:28 No.11829451 Report

Quoted By: >>11829484

>>11829408
You don't need hyperloop. Just a regular loop like Elon's Boring Company has built. Also it can be either elevators or slope ramps. Given the initial size of Mars colony would host few thousands/millions, thats more than enough. Outside "visitors center" type buildings can be erected at each subway stations for people to get outside look of mars, while living in a host of large underground communities next to each loop stops. The loops could be the "river basins" of Mars colony.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:06:24 No.11829456 Report

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>>11829133
I don't want to /pol/ this place up, but what's the chance the first person to step foot on Mars will be [spoiler:lit]female, black or both[/spoiler:lit]?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:06:24 No.11829457 Report

Quoted By: >>11829484

>>11829408
>But how would you get around inside one?
Imagine the structure is divided into layers, with each layer being its own self contained habitat full of buildings. A layer is 200 to 300 feet tall, and you get around like in any other city. To go from one layer to another, you get onto something like a hybrid between an elevator and a ferry; it goes up and down between layers on a schedules route, carrying passengers and cargo, and there are lots of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:07:20 No.11829459 Report

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>>11829127
Gods, this was fun at the beginning, but can spaceX not blow up something for a change?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:07:30 No.11829460 Report

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>>11829456
Too high

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:08:22 No.11829464 Report

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>>11829459
Blowing things up is cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:08:43 No.11829465 Report

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>>11829459
No, this is how they're learning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:09:19 No.11829467 Report

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>>11829459
Cry more, that's testing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:09:33 No.11829469 Report

Quoted By: >>11829486

>>11829456
Little, look at the astronaut corps, even now its mostly white males. Because they are recruited from military based on their own merits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:10:32 No.11829472 Report

Quoted By: >>11829476

>>11829408
hyperloop is pointless on mars with 6 milibars of pressure, just run maglev

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:10:39 No.11829473 Report

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>>11829127
I love how they tied it to the stand, and it just took the stand with it.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:12:03 No.11829475 Report

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>>11829446
Hop when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:12:18 No.11829476 Report

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>>11829472
Maglev in a tube underground is still good, because it solves thermal expansion issues

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:16:40 No.11829484 Report

Quoted By: >>11829496

>>11829451
>Also it can be either elevators or slope ramps
I was talking more in terms of >>11829457. Something like a large elevator with a circular room and concentric rings of back-to-back subway chairs. Put a bunch of them in the center of an arcology, add some seatless ones for cargo, and you've got yourself an elevation station.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:17:23 No.11829486 Report

Quoted By: >>11829530 >>11829544

>>11829469
odds are, the "first" to something from here on out will be politically appointed as opposed to by pure merit or chance

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:19:55 No.11829491 Report

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>>11829235
Shutting them down isn't the end anon, they are on a great journey that noone knows how it will end

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:21:13 No.11829496 Report

Quoted By: >>11829518

>>11829484
It might be simpler to simply expand horizontally instead of vertically. If building vertically, then add ramps on each side. I'd rather fat habitation zone than long. At most, no more than 2-3 layers. Elevators are extra energy resource hog and prone to expensive breakdowns/repairs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:24:00 No.11829508 Report

Quoted By: >>11829515

>>11829238
Wait what happened i missed it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:26:22 No.11829513 Report

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>>11829459
SN7 was meant to be tested to failure. Blowing it up unironically gets them closer to the final product

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:26:45 No.11829515 Report

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>>11829508
spot bark at tank tank fall over in surprise

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:27:28 No.11829518 Report

Quoted By: >>11829564

>>11829496
Something like a parking lot structure is space efficient imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:27:29 No.11829519 Report

Quoted By: >>11829564

>>11829350
Wtf are they using for propellant

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:28:24 No.11829524 Report

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>>11829352
Yeah this messy construction aint gonna hold up for orbital flights

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:30:14 No.11829529 Report

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>>11829456
As long as they are competent, I don't care. Although it quite worrying that NASA advertises the Artemis program with such words.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:30:32 No.11829530 Report

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>>11829486
This unfortunately. They'll have some woman astronaut take the first step even though the white man will be the real leader of the mission.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:34:27 No.11829544 Report

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>>11829486
Who cares. Especially if it stifles the Dems from scrapping the whole enterprise.

Look I hate to say it but EVA's are shit anyway. They're much better written or read as stories. They make for comparatively rubbish video viewing after the launch and landing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:37:09 No.11829551 Report

Quoted By: >>11829589 >>11829665 >>11830071

>you can probably convince progressives to spend a fuckton of money on space if you make the first person on Mars a minority
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:40:43 No.11829564 Report

Quoted By: >>11829592

>>11829519
standard hypergolics

>>11829518
Make it arcology sized and you need separate layers because your atmosphere will be sinking to the lowermost layers otherwise. For a pressurized habitat even a few hundred meters tall that's not a big deal, but if you want to tower up a dozen kilometers and dig down another six kilometers into the surface, you really do need to segment the thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:45:08 No.11829577 Report

Quoted By: >>11829686 >>11830400

>>11829529
Even the name artemis is because of muh womyn. I have hope with jim because the women he appoints are qualified but I feel sick when i think about the male astronauts at NASA because odds are that the most qualified is a male

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:49:24 No.11829589 Report

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>>11829551
This is a really good idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:49:42 No.11829592 Report

Quoted By: >>11829647

>>11829564
>hundreds of meter
>dozens of kilometer deep
Why tho?

We only need to dig down few meters to get full radiation protection. Maybe few dozen meters for full tunnels/etc and 1-2 story buildings. Not hundreds or kms. We're not going full mole-rat, we only need to go down long enough for the initial phase of colony. Until we can develop infrastructure to build above hardy surface materials to augment the underground colony.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:50:58 No.11829597 Report

Quoted By: >>11829615 >>11829616 >>11829637 >>11829764 >>11830995

my school’s PRONTER.
As you can see, it produces immaculate results. Mars-habitat worthy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:56:27 No.11829615 Report

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>>11829597
>that backsplash
You can't fool me, nice designated cumming station anon

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:56:53 No.11829616 Report

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>>11829597
Yeah your schools poorfag printer isn't proof of shit. Take the print pill

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 20:58:54 No.11829626 Report

Quoted By: >>11829644

>>11829616
behold the proontfag and his crowning achievement: renders

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:00:17 No.11829632 Report

Quoted By: >>11829664

>>11829616
just thinking about all the single points of failure in a 3D habitat printer is making me woozy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:01:18 No.11829637 Report

Quoted By: >>11829646

>>11829597
Whose shitty idea was it to print it that way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:02:25 No.11829642 Report

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>>11829127
It's a real testament to the material properties of the steel that this was able to rupture fairly slowly and jet itself up in the air but not kaboom.
Steel is fucking great, guys.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:02:36 No.11829644 Report

Quoted By: >>11829654 >>11830321

>>11829626
Try again loser

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:02:52 No.11829646 Report

Quoted By: >>11829716

>>11829637
Welcome to Mines

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:03:22 No.11829647 Report

Quoted By: >>11829662

>>11829592
Not that anon, but an underground living area with the diameter and depth of that arcology has far more livable area. It has nothing to do with shielding at that point. Besides which, for the people inside there's basically no difference whatsoever, and at that point the interior will have plenty to see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:06:01 No.11829654 Report

Quoted By: >>11829678

>>11829644
>1:3 scale
>no standards for radiation, pressurization, the ability to cope with unlevel ground, or anything whatsoever beyond being stable under a couple tons of weight
yes i know what trash looks like, you post a lot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:07:48 No.11829662 Report

Quoted By: >>11829666

>>11829647
People need to get outside the colony. You can't have people living in mars underground forever. They have to get outside and get sunlight/sunset. We're building a sustainable colony, not a prison. That means building above ground is the eventual goal and building couple dozen meter down for initial protection from environment/initial survival.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:08:28 No.11829664 Report

Quoted By: >>11829676

>>11829632
That was their "super aesthetic earth concept" because they planned to sell a few on earth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:08:29 No.11829665 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829551
>Literally the only person on the surface of the whole planet
>Still a 'minority'

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:08:49 No.11829666 Report

Quoted By: >>11829674

>>11829662
Build a fucking elevator you obnoxious baby

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:09:13 No.11829670 Report

Quoted By:

>print hab
>pressurize
>haha hab go boom

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:10:49 No.11829674 Report

Quoted By: >>11829702

>>11829666
Its an overtly complex system requiring overtly expensive maintenance. The whole reason for initial underground structure is low maintenance/sufficient protection/low resources. If you're at the point where resources are a non-issue, then outside structure is the way to expand, not digging deeper.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:11:00 No.11829676 Report

Quoted By: >>11829691 >>11829770

>>11829664

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:11:04 No.11829678 Report

Quoted By: >>11829683 >>11830321

>>11829654
>you post a lot
I don't, I just started looking into this yesterday, uneven ground is a non issue and so is radiation as this level of the competition wasn't meant for that, these materials and designs showed NASA a lot and has furthered the printing research.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:12:38 No.11829683 Report

Quoted By: >>11829690

>>11829678
>can't shut the fuck up about proonting for ten seconds
>has the exact same images from the last 50 fucking threads
>I just started looking into this yesterday
Kill your clone then, we don't need two of you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:12:58 No.11829685 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829262
That was a fucking experience

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:13:35 No.11829686 Report

Quoted By: >>11829693 >>11829698

>>11829577
> Even the name artemis is because of muh womyn

That’s a shoe-in though. Artemis is Apollo’s sibling

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:14:12 No.11829690 Report

Quoted By: >>11829704

>>11829683
There are more than 2 I'm sure. Also there are only so many images anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:15:00 No.11829691 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829676
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:15:41 No.11829692 Report

Quoted By:

>https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/23/senators-ufo-government-reports-336021
Reminder the whole "tictac" UFO is real. The congress wants more transparencies/more responses/intelligence from these apparent intrusions. By UFOs, they're saying unidentified, not Aliens. Absence of conventional knowledge is not gateway to supernatural knowledge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:15:54 No.11829693 Report

Quoted By: >>11829694

>>11829686
a shoe in for what? There are much better names with the theme

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:16:40 No.11829694 Report

Quoted By: >>11829721

>>11829693
>a shoe in for what?

The name of the mission dummy what else would you call it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:17:30 No.11829696 Report

Quoted By: >>11830112

>>11829127
Was this an intentional test to failure?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:17:37 No.11829697 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829262
That really was our generations Moon landing. So glad i was alive to live that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:17:58 No.11829698 Report

Quoted By: >>11829720

>>11829686
Apollo tricks Artemis to kill Orion. That's the whole point of the name. They're going to Moon, regardless of SLS/Orion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:19:09 No.11829702 Report

Quoted By: >>11829713

>>11829674
How the fuck is someone who thinks elevators are too complex going to build a 2 mile tall arcology? Are you actually retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:19:45 No.11829704 Report

Quoted By: >>11829756

>>11829690
What's advantage of printing over building in by own hands? You don't need big ass crane, printer head and so much parts that can break.

Printing anything larger rocket nozzles is stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:22:08 No.11829713 Report

Quoted By: >>11829729

>>11829702
Not sure if you're retard or stupid. Why would someone build 2 mile tall archeology and not build a elevator? Why would someone build an elevator for dozen meter depth environment?

Low depth + ramp + sideways expansion (not downward and not elevators) is what I'm saying should be the way to colonize Mars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:23:49 No.11829716 Report

Quoted By: >>11829718

>>11829646
Is colorado school of mines full of PROOOOONT fags

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:25:20 No.11829718 Report

Quoted By: >>11829726

>>11829716
Yeah.
We do have a cool additive mfg / advanced mfg degree, and the first space resources program in the nation

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:25:49 No.11829720 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829698
Orion is a constellation program holdover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:26:51 No.11829721 Report

Quoted By: >>11829744 >>11829763 >>11830085

>>11829694
Apollo makes sense because he is associated with light and the sun, artemis is wild animals and the hunt it doesn't make sense other than muh womyn. Nyx, demeter or athena would all be better choices for goddesses and that is why its annoying

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:27:13 No.11829723 Report

Quoted By: >>11830080 >>11830321

>send cargo Starships on one-way trips to Mars carrying equipment
>send manned Starship to Mars
>need an additional home
>strip used cargo Starships
>dig trench
>drop stripped cargo Starship into trench
>cover trench
>wet workshop the inside of the buried Starship
>feng shui the shit out of the living space
>have a durable and spacious home on Mars
>invite printerlets over when their printer fails again
Oh yeah, living the life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:28:01 No.11829726 Report

Quoted By: >>11829730

>>11829718
why do you have a degree for something that MIGHT be useful in ten years

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:28:55 No.11829729 Report

Quoted By: >>11829747 >>11829773 >>11829830

>>11829713
First, I thought this was long term. Spreading out and colonizing free land doesn't last forever. Second, people will not colonize as a uniform low density mat across the surface. High density areas will form.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:29:01 No.11829730 Report

Quoted By: >>11829735

>>11829726
Tell that to our petroleum eng department lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:30:08 No.11829735 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829730
no petroleum engineering is still useful

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:33:07 No.11829744 Report

Quoted By: >>11829775

>>11829721
artemis is the twin of apollo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:34:31 No.11829747 Report

Quoted By: >>11829748 >>11829754

>>11829729
>Spreading out and colonizing free land doesn't last forever

Onwards to Ceres!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:35:43 No.11829748 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829747
And the galilean moons!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:37:37 No.11829754 Report

Quoted By: >>11829776

>>11829747
Yeah, and? The same thing will happen there. People aren't gonna just stop making developing high density urbanized areas just because they could move onto the next rock instead. They'll do both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:38:17 No.11829756 Report

Quoted By: >>11829760 >>11829781 >>11829799 >>11830321

>>11829704
In the tests they were able to print for 30 hours with hardly any human interference and the structures performed well. That means when the tech is fleshed out they will be able to print autonomously. Autonomous printing would be beneficial because you can build habs for astronauts before they arrive. Printing is also an easy way to use martian regolith to produce a habitat without having to ship in materials. Its also easily melted back down and reusable compared to stand methods. Its very simple so workers can focus on infrastructure and powerplant needs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:40:18 No.11829760 Report

Quoted By: >>11829767

>>11829756
>Printing is also an easy way to use martian regolith to produce a habitat without having to ship in materials.
So you need a trench digger to feed the printer? Why not just dig the trench and put a prefab hab in there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:40:23 No.11829761 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829381
i would actually move there if this were the case

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:40:41 No.11829763 Report

Quoted By: >>11829771

>>11829721
Artemis is also the goddess of the Moon, you donut

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:40:45 No.11829764 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829597
Yeah, fuck that shit. I'd get better results using my bare hands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:41:30 No.11829767 Report

Quoted By: >>11829778

>>11829760
>So you need a trench digger to feed the printer?
no?
>Why not just dig the trench and put a prefab hab in there?
Why waste time money and cargo space on prefab habs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:42:18 No.11829770 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829676
>WHO LIVES IN A PROONTAPPLE ON MARS
>SPERGPANTS APU!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:42:39 No.11829771 Report

Quoted By: >>11829782 >>11829789

>>11829763
The artemis program is a moon mars initiative so why not call it aries?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:43:08 No.11829773 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829729
>Spreading out and colonizing free land doesn't last forever
Mars is BIG. It can support few billions easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:43:40 No.11829775 Report

Quoted By: >>11829787

>>11829744
>muh twin
And? How is that significant in any way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:43:49 No.11829776 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829754
>Yeah, and? The same thing will happen there

Onward to Eris!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:44:23 No.11829778 Report

Quoted By: >>11829839

>>11829767
>no?
But to feed the proonter with Martian soil one would need a way to dig, and if one can dig then they can dig a trench.

>Why waste time money and cargo space on prefab habs?
Why not just use the spent propellant tanks?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:44:52 No.11829781 Report

Quoted By: >>11829801 >>11829815 >>11829826 >>11829853 >>11830071

>>11829756
I'm fucking tired of this printer shit. It was cool for three threads. I don't care if it's the original shill, his brother, mother, or john doe. Fuck off.

What's up with photon, is there gonna be a market for lightweight interplanetary probes? And what's the future of RocketLab in general?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:44:53 No.11829782 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829771
artemis is moon centric so the name is apt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:45:24 No.11829787 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829775
Some elements of NASA just want to repeat what Apollo did (i.e. boot prints and flags), so the name seems appropriate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:45:55 No.11829789 Report

Quoted By: >>11829866

>>11829771
Lol, Look up the ares 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:47:52 No.11829799 Report

Quoted By: >>11829873

>>11829756
>the structures performed well.
At holding up a backhoe. While sitting unpressurized on level ground on earth at earth temperatures, with a stationary printer.
And still had to use materials not indigenous to the martian surface. A printer that can actually produce structures like the renders you dream of hasn't been built, and that's barely even the first step. It needs an entire autonomous support crew of trenchers, loaders, levelers, some way to ISRU the fucking plastic, etc. Meanwhile SpaceX is just going to send up the backhoe but electric.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:47:55 No.11829801 Report

Quoted By: >>11829842

>>11829781
There's always gonna be a market for small shit. Not everybody wants to or can wait for rideshare shit no matter how high the launch cadence is. You'll always be at the mercy of whatever the angle the biggest shit going up is supposed to go up at. Next year, Andøya starts up proper too and North Star will move off the drawing board, so that's another small sat launcher, only from Northern Norway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:51:34 No.11829812 Report

Quoted By:

>Can’t just build Martian concrete culverts, then stack and glue them together into an arcology

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:52:02 No.11829815 Report

Quoted By: >>11829847

>>11829781
if the future does produce cheaper launch cost then yes, there will be a market for space vessel parts
i imagine companies launching orbital data servers
maybe 4chan can launch its own server up to space to avoid censorship if it gets that bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:54:44 No.11829826 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829781
RocketLab is doing fine as I understand it, but they're crazy if they're not looking over their shoulder. SpaceX is rapidly growing in the smallsat market but RL has enough versatility to maintain a niche. I'm glad they're pursuing reusability at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:55:36 No.11829830 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829729
If we allocate each person 30 cubic meter of apartment on mars, that will give us enough space to support 15 million on a 5 km x 5 km x 20 meter area. 30 cubic meter apartment is roughly equivalent to a 20 feet shipping container. Ofcourse to only support 1 million people, we can just build 1 km x 1 km x 30 meter deep city on Mars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:57:36 No.11829839 Report

Quoted By: >>11829848

>>11829778
>and if one can dig then they can dig a trench.
Depends on the machine
>Why not just use the spent propellant tanks?
What spent propellant tanks? Seems like a health risk

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:58:05 No.11829842 Report

Quoted By: >>11829850

>>11829801
Are you the norway anon? I remember the guy talking about Andøya.

I can't help but cheer for all non US, China, and India space programs. Russia, Arabs, Europe, doesn't matter. Studying international relations and would love to get into space policy after. The more nations involved the larger the job market.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:59:34 No.11829847 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829815
This is what gives me comfort. They've done an excellent job of becoming a one stop shop for everything smallsat. Convenience is huge plus in something as complex as making and launching satellites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 21:59:40 No.11829848 Report

Quoted By: >>11829859

>>11829839
What health risk, it's methane and lox. It's not fucking hybergolic. Just vent it and remember to close the valves afterwards. The fuck do you have to worry about

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:00:06 No.11829850 Report

Quoted By: >>11829883

>>11829842
There may be more than one of us here, but yes, I am from Norway. I'm quite happy they finally funded that shit up there. 100 new jobs in aerospace on site and quite a few more in making shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:01:20 No.11829853 Report

Quoted By: >>11829883

>>11829781
>I'm fucking tired of this printer shit.
Get fucking over it. You guys bitch and moan about it every fucking thread. Mars is happening this decade and habitation speculation is a very important part of the future operations. If you don't want to talk about it the don't reply and actually post about something else. These threads bump painfully slow as it is and you fucks aren't adding shit to the conversation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:02:22 No.11829859 Report

Quoted By: >>11829865

>>11829848
Mostly cancer and illness associated with living in a fucking propellant tank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:03:35 No.11829865 Report

Quoted By: >>11829968

>>11829859
I'm pretty sure posting this poorly is worse for your health than breathing in trace fumes of non-toxic fucking methalox

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:04:03 No.11829866 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829789
ARES 5 wasn't a program

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:05:34 No.11829873 Report

Quoted By: >>11829882

>>11829799
it was one test in a series of tests that NASA is using for R&D whats your point? SN7 popped so i guess starship is useless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:07:34 No.11829882 Report

Quoted By: >>11829978

>>11829873
By next month SpaceX will have already tested at least one more prototype. When's the next round of testing for the buttplug you shill so much?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:07:33 No.11829883 Report

Quoted By: >>11829897 >>11829981

>>11829850
Really cool stuff. North Star is the launch vehicle they're planning correct? 10kg payload isn't a bad start. Kino launch site as well.

>>11829853
>starts conversation about photon and small sats
>still bitches about not adding anything to the convo
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:08:42 No.11829888 Report

Quoted By: >>11829893 >>11829896 >>11829930

Mars is cool and all but what about living in stations that hang out next to asteroids? Would that eventually be feasible?

Are there asteroids large/rich enough in minerals to support construction of colony stations?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:10:19 No.11829893 Report

Quoted By: >>11829919

>>11829888
Gonna need a really big space industry to be feasible. There's already phobos and deimos, which are probably gonna be the more relevant asteroids for the next century.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:10:56 No.11829896 Report

Quoted By: >>11829919 >>11829927

>>11829888
Yes, asteroids in our system could support trillions of human beings.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:11:07 No.11829897 Report

Quoted By: >>11829901 >>11829915

>>11829883
Yeah, it's fucking beautiful up north.
The entire tech line is based on the Nucleus hybrid. It's particularly exciting, but can be scaled and only releases water vapor.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:12:19 No.11829901 Report

Quoted By: >>11829911 >>11829915 >>11831276

>>11829897
*it's not particularly exciting.
Here's an extra picture with some specs of the initial launch vehicle.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:12:38 No.11829902 Report

Quoted By: >>11829972 >>11830217 >>11831285

Who keeps spamming that stupid fucking printing shit. That habitat is goddamn ugly and honestly people don’t wanna be bugmen in those weird hives.

People are probably just gonna use wet-workshops at first and cover them in mars regolith. I can see printing happening after that, but Jesus anything but that design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:13:55 No.11829910 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829456
>I don't want to /pol/ this place up
It's like when they say I'm not gay but I like cock

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:14:40 No.11829911 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829901
The fact that it's a solid booster that can be stopped and reignited is what's kind of interesting with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:15:11 No.11829915 Report

Quoted By: >>11829925

>>11829897
>>11829901
Hydrolox? I read something about a 2020 launch test. Is that true?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:16:36 No.11829919 Report

Quoted By: >>11829931

>>11829893
>>11829896
What’s the biggest hurdle in constructing large scale stations for habitation?
In-space manufacturing? Getting oxygen to them? Water? Maintaining large pressurized spaces?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:16:46 No.11829920 Report

Quoted By: >>11830217

>>11829378
>arcologies

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:17:40 No.11829925 Report

Quoted By: >>11829934 >>11829951

>>11829915
Nucleus has already launched. North Star, I believe next year. Need to upgrade the pads which they're now funded for. It's hybrid solid. A rubber compound and hydrogen peroxide. Can be stopped and reignited.
I wish it was a proper turbopump biprop, but if I want that, I got to make it myself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:17:59 No.11829927 Report

Quoted By: >>11832283

>>11829896
quintillions*

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:18:42 No.11829930 Report

Quoted By: >>11829957

>>11829888
16 Psyche is a giant (>200 km wide) chunk of nearly pure nickel-iron and other heavy metals. It's going to supply the rest of the solar system with metals for a long time once somebody sets up shop there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:18:51 No.11829931 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829919
Willpower, already available land on Earth and elsewhere, and cost of launching. Actual manufacturing shouldn't be too hard with a modular design. Achievable by starship for sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:20:57 No.11829934 Report

Quoted By: >>11829935 >>11829951

>>11829925
How does the stopping and reigniting work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:21:36 No.11829935 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829934
Not sure. Nammo makes it and they're not sharing. They're a fucking weapons manufacturer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:25:49 No.11829951 Report

Quoted By: >>11829959

>>11829925
Wow, that's quite interesting actually. Northrup Grumman needs to get in contact with these Nammo people, maybe learn a few things.

>but if I want that, I got to make it myself.
Norway's space program awaits.

>>11829934
I would assume it has something to do with the fact liquid propellant is involved.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:28:52 No.11829957 Report

Quoted By: >>11829982 >>11830121

>>11829930

>Psyche and Ceres at war (again)
>Earth-funded battleships hover kilometers over the surface of Psyche, turning any troops there into glass
>Martian destroyers swoop in en masse, but are swatted out of the sky by the massive battleships.
> MDN Mariner DD-772 has been damaged due to debris. Life support has failed. The ship’s reactor is coming apart and turned the lower decks into molten metal
>Mariner began her service twenty years ago. As a part of her commemoration, actual pieces of the space probe Mariner 4, which had to be hunted for in interplanetary space, were melted down and turned into her first structural panel.
>In the present, Mariner’s captain realizes his ship is going to die, and fired her engine one last time directly at Psyche itself
>Mariner hits Psyche at 1.5% the speed of light
>Debris from the impact devastated Earth’s fleet in Low Psyche Orbit
>Mars gains another foothold in the Second Asteroid Cold War
>Appalled by this loss, Earth accelerated the development of their new antimatter-fueled Battleship in the depths of the Kuiper Belt

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:29:13 No.11829959 Report

Quoted By: >>11830001

>>11829951
lol, USA is on our customer lists. Who the fuck do you think makes your newest anti ship missiles?
That's Kongsberg though.
Either way, it's hybrid, meaning it's a rubber solid compound and a liquid oxidizer in this case hydrogen peroxide. I assume it's a hypergolic reaction in some way and the trick is in making it burn evenly in a pattern.
In that case, it's just a matter of cutting the oxidizer and it fizzles out, then reintroducing the oxidizer when you want reignition.

Still, a good party trick to get it to burn evenly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:32:17 No.11829968 Report

Quoted By: >>11829974 >>11829999

>>11829865
Edgy, I'm sure sustained living in concentrated methalox is great for the body

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:33:53 No.11829972 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829902
As opposed to what? Underground like ants?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:34:41 No.11829974 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829968
More of what little is left of your brain leaks out with every post you make and somehow pointing out the problem is edgy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:34:55 No.11829978 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829882
in a few months

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:36:26 No.11829981 Report

Quoted By: >>11829986

>>11829883
>implying the electron and cube sats haven't been discussed to death already

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:36:39 No.11829982 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829957
that is a horrible warship design

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:38:04 No.11829986 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829981
Well, he was asking about the photon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:42:51 No.11829999 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829968
Concentrated? It's methane. Easy to vent out what's left of it if needed, tiny traces aren't dangerous and I breath them all the time because I cook food with that (and not always it burns immediately).

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:43:39 No.11830001 Report

Quoted By: >>11830009

>>11829959
Hahaha I knew it.

>By May 2017, the extended-range Boeing RGM-84 Harpoon and Lockheed Martin LRASM had been withdrawn from the Navy's Over-the-Horizon Weapon System (OTH-WS) competition, leaving the NSM as the only remaining contender.
Based Norwegians BTFOing LockMart and Boing

Speaking of Euros, What's your guy's thoughts on Airbus? Looking for space related companies to invest in and also at a big discount. Even if Ariane is cancelled, Airbus is sure to be a big player in the successor as Europe and the French will never suck up their pride and rely on america. Welcome any thoughts on their plane business as well. Although I doubt it's worse than boeing.

>

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:46:11 No.11830009 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830001
I'm not big on shit designed by committee no matter who does it and Airbus is designed by committee and furthermore built by committee.
But at least it doesn't want to plow the ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:47:40 No.11830017 Report

Quoted By: >>11830019

>>11829373
Is it gonna be another pressure test? Wouldn't it be pointless since the one that blew up had better welding/materials than SN5?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:48:49 No.11830019 Report

Quoted By: >>11830022

>>11830017
Every single one of them is going to have to start with pressure testing. Such is life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:50:23 No.11830022 Report

Quoted By: >>11830024

>>11830019
Right. I guess what I was asking is whether they plan to test it until it breaks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 22:50:48 No.11830024 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830022
Who knows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:08:35 No.11830071 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829551
This is exactly what they're doing with Artemis.

>>11829781
They'll hold onto a limited launch market for a while since ridesharing isn't good for every mission. A larger, more reusable smallsat launcher feels like a good next step that they could develop in the meantime.
I don't know the economics of Photon, though I imagine the market for those is safer than the launch market.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:10:55 No.11830076 Report

Quoted By: >>11830089 >>11830101

Boca Chica build site, June 23rd, photographed from a Cessna

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:11:39 No.11830078 Report

Quoted By: >>11830088 >>11830093 >>11830096 >>11830963

You think space will become a wild frontier like the American West or will it be boring and mundane?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:12:24 No.11830080 Report

Quoted By: >>11830097

>>11829723
>wave to casketship bro
>watch as expendable starship lands and opens
>take inflatable hab
>drag it to another trench lent by burybro
>laugh with burybro as proontard's robot jams again

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:13:57 No.11830085 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829721
Well, if Artemis does start actually using the moon's resources, it could be considered moon hunting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:15:11 No.11830088 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830078
Way more regulation unfortunately

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:15:12 No.11830089 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830076
if a plane can go to space and take pictures why do we need starship

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:16:23 No.11830093 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830078
Depends on the budget of the United States Space Force, the DOD's military transport capabilities, and the Government's ability to move Federal law enforcement around on short notice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:16:44 No.11830096 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830078
Potentially yes, it could get very interesting. Especially in places like the asteroid belt where there are very few people who will care about you if you end up getting robbed.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:16:48 No.11830097 Report

Quoted By: >>11830099 >>11830117

>>11830080
Can't wait to see proonting on mars just for the salt it'll mine.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:17:56 No.11830099 Report

Quoted By: >>11830113

>>11830097
I see your buttplugs and raise you a PISSCRETE.
https://phys.org/news/2020-03-geopolymer-concrete-moon-bases-astronaut.html

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:18:05 No.11830100 Report

Quoted By: >>11830217

SN7 test aftermath with SpaceX's own Boston Dynamics Spot robot, Zeus, making a cameo

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:18:24 No.11830101 Report

Quoted By: >>11830105 >>11830106 >>11830107 >>11830116

>>11830076
They should have proper launch pad with flame ducts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:19:30 No.11830105 Report

Quoted By: >>11830120

>>11830101
They're building one. Have you been sitting under a rock for the past week?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:19:46 No.11830106 Report

Quoted By: >>11830120

>>11830101
They're building it already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:20:21 No.11830107 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830101
Soyuz is so smol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:22:47 No.11830112 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829696
yes for the 15 tredecillionth time

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:22:51 No.11830113 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830099
Its perfect, proonted pisscrete is what we need to meme into reality

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:23:46 No.11830116 Report

Quoted By: >>11830123 >>11830125

>>11830101
These 8' wide rebar cages are the corner foundation supports for the Superheavy launch pad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:24:05 No.11830117 Report

Quoted By: >>11830126 >>11830223

>>11830097
T b h proonting itself isn't what annoys me, it's the damn pencil sharpener glade solid air freshener artfaggotry that gets my britches in a twist. Proonters should instead extrude intricate brick shapes and stuff to decorate boring looking habitats and pieces to make simple storage buildings.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:25:22 No.11830120 Report

Quoted By: >>11830135

>>11830106
>>11830105
Where. I guess you mean that metal chair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:26:02 No.11830121 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829957
this is fucking stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:26:39 No.11830123 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830116
Ok.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:27:48 No.11830125 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830116
Imagine the destruction

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:28:09 No.11830126 Report

Quoted By: >>11830134 >>11830148 >>11830204

>>11830117
The round egg shapes is more a side effect of what's practical from the printer than anything stylistic. It's faster to print in round circles continuously than it is to do angles with starts and stops.
It's sheer practicality, nothing more. Printing bricks would take even longer because you'd have to wait for each brick to harden then clean up each and every one of them. Waste of time and the antithesis of printing in the first place. Speed is half the point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:29:22 No.11830130 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829235
not very. Locking on to earth is something that can be done with a simple control loop. Do not attempt to fuck spacecraft. Many have dangerous chemicals, pyrotechnic fasteners, and high voltage ion thrusters. I'd say some are less autonomous than some robots. I don't think any space probe can navigate on its own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:30:41 No.11830134 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830126
>Speed is half the point
Speed is one of the main problems with printing at structural scales. The entire reason buttplug meme uses plastic in its construction is so that it can take up less volume because proonting any appreciable thickness/volume is so much less efficient than any other method.
Anon you're replying to was just talking about decoration not structure so time is much less critical.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:30:45 No.11830135 Report

Quoted By: >>11830142

>>11830120
>Where. I guess you mean that metal chair.
Apologies for the trash tier resolution, nothing more current in better resolution is out in the wild yet. The pad area on the right side of the image with the construction equipment is where they're building the launch pad.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:33:23 No.11830142 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830135
Yeah i saw it, i wonder if its going to be as big as N-1 launch pad, its still exist now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:35:00 No.11830148 Report

Quoted By: >>11830153

>>11830126
>Speed is half the point
Then why even spend effort doing that crap? Why not just send inflatable habs and just inflate when settled? Oh and by the way, said habs are designed to withstand stabs and bullets to effectively be immune to micrometeorite strikes, so they don't exactly rupture easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:35:23 No.11830151 Report

Quoted By: >>11830154 >>11830269

>>11829378
making it self sustaining without imports from earth. It's quite likely a mars colony will require food imports for DECADES. Most people in this thread ignore this problem and scream greenhouses without actually doing the math on how much food greenhouses can actually provide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:37:00 No.11830153 Report

Quoted By: >>11830159 >>11830176 >>11830989

>>11830148
>inflatables
>on a fucking planet
It's one thing to put some shit in zero G and inflate it, it's something else when gravity is involved.
Gravity is a fucking bitch. The fucking mockups they have on display are not fully functional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:37:15 No.11830154 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830151
We could use funguses for emergency foods. Just reprocess waste products, feed the funguses with said waste, and harvest. Leafcutter ants have already found out long ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:38:18 No.11830156 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829446
SN9001

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:39:11 No.11830159 Report

Quoted By: >>11830170 >>11830176 >>11830217

>>11830153
The inflatable habs have a central rod that houses pressure tanks and shit that'll hold the air necessary to inflate the habitat. Maybe gravity might be an issue as you say, but I imagine that problem can be mitigated by inflating in midair before being laid into trenches via cranes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:41:33 No.11830170 Report

Quoted By: >>11830176 >>11830198 >>11830989

>>11830159
While it's probably remarkable in zero G or microgravity, I wouldn't exactly like camping inside a 5 ton tent held up by air and willpower on a planet with actual gravity.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:43:42 No.11830176 Report

Quoted By: >>11830230

>>11830153
>>11830159
>>11830170
Sorry, I misread and assumed you thought the inflatables couldn't inflate without outside sources or something. You are right about that problem. I do imagine they could be inflated, then buried vertically with one of the ends serving as a surface trapdoor. That central spire could definitely serve as the spine of the habitat.
>pic somewhat related

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:53:56 No.11830198 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830170
>5 ton tent held up by air and willpower
I'm not even here to shill inflatables but I have no idea what you're whining about. 1atm of internal pressure will make an inflatable harder than a priest in sunday school in mars gravity and pressure. You could make decent structural members just by internal pressure. The biggest problem would be lack of near term ISRU plans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:56:48 No.11830204 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830126
That and its structurally stronger

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:57:05 No.11830206 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829352
The forbidden jelly

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Jun 2020 23:59:58 No.11830217 Report

Quoted By: >>11830224 >>11830272

>>11829920
Why dig that deep on Mars when you've got plenty of horizontal space?
>>11829902
Proontfag is why /sfg/ threads are barely lasting 24 hours, now that we've finally gotten over the Dragon 2 tourists. Same fucking pictures, EVERY fucking thread. General threads aren't for dropping all the same pictures and forced memes every fucking time a new one starts.
>>11830100
Where's Waldog?
>>11830159
Just put the ends up on concrete towers before hitting the gas. Or make a trench for it to fit in, with the ends on little foundations on either end of the trench.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:00:44 No.11830220 Report

Quoted By: >>11830231

The SN7 tank failed at 7.6 bar, but what was the intended operational pressure? More? Less?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:00:53 No.11830223 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830117
>Proonters should instead extrude intricate brick shapes and stuff to decorate boring looking habitats and pieces to make simple storage buildings.
that woulbe a complete waste of time. The reason that shape works is because of ease for the printer and structural integrity. There were other designs proposed too but the plug looking one was the most recent winner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:01:28 No.11830224 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830217
>Where's Waldog?
Look for the yellow thing on the concrete pad.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:04:40 No.11830230 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830176
Well shit, I may have actually solved the initial habitat issue entirely. Just have starships pop open with "bigelows" (i know Dr. Bigelow's company ended up getting dosed by coronachan, RIP) and have cranes just plop some plump habs into holes before burying. Mr. Proonter and his friends can also commence their mating dances because the proonter bots could be used to produce protective tents and shit to protect the metallic docking port serving as the trapdoor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:04:49 No.11830231 Report

Quoted By: >>11830246

>>11830220
Last one or the one from today? Did elon post update?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:04:58 No.11830233 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829352

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:07:51 No.11830246 Report

Quoted By: >>11830258 >>11830259

>>11830231
There was another test today? Last test then I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:11:00 No.11830258 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830246
They already have enough pressure to handle non human missions. The one few hours ago hasn't been confirmed yet. The target for human is 8.4 or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:11:23 No.11830259 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830246
>There was another test today?
Did you look at the webm OP posted? At the top of this very thread?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:14:39 No.11830269 Report

Quoted By: >>11830284 >>11830317 >>11830410 >>11830490

>>11830151
Barely anyone in these threads advocates for greenhouses because they are stupid. Vertical farming leaf greens is simple and easy for salad type stuff, if you want proteins then the most energy efficient way is big clear tubes/bags that sit on the surface and grow algae since algae doesn't give a fuck about reduced sunlight so it's essentially zero energy input. Take your algae and feed it to fish and crustaceans, possibly they could even live in the tubes/bags on the surface and graze directly since they don't live long a ough for the radiation to be an issue. You now have a fully balanced diet with fairly simple technology. You could also go for mushrooms too, very little energy required, very simple to grow and harvest. Next step is chickens, they could eat pressed algae pellets along with being food scrap disposal units, you get free eggs on the regular and then a tasty KFC treat at the end. That's probably where it will end for some time until habitat technology has advanced sufficiently to allow for larger herbivores. A colony could definitely produce its own food so long as the infrastructure is set up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:15:44 No.11830272 Report

Quoted By: >>11830276

>>11830217
>General threads aren't for dropping all the same pictures and forced memes every fucking time a new one starts.
Literally what the general has been long before the proonting

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:17:04 No.11830276 Report

Quoted By: >>11830288

>>11830272
Not even close to this except for a few occasions, fuck off proontfag.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:18:59 No.11830284 Report

Quoted By: >>11830317

>>11830269
And if all else fails, a specialized fungus could easily serve as an auxiliary food source. Like leafcutter ants, we could simply breed a fungus that can practically consume any organic detritus and convert it all into a sort of superfood.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:20:11 No.11830288 Report

Quoted By: >>11830291

>>11830276
not really, space doesn't move fast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:21:15 No.11830291 Report

Quoted By: >>11830294

>>11830288
Fuck off dragon 2 newfag you redditor cunts glow fresh out of fucking chernobyl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:21:36 No.11830293 Report

Quoted By: >>11831048

Bros I want to design and build space cruiseliners.
What’s a good field to get started with that, electrical engineering, mechanical engineering, maybe both? Or something else like engineering physics?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:22:00 No.11830294 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830291
Try harder newfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:31:11 No.11830317 Report

Quoted By: >>11830319

>>11830269
>>11830284
They’ve bred a bacteria that eats methane into a cheap animal food for decades
Siphon off a bit from your refueling station and shit digester to that, use it to feed for crustaceans/fish/mirelurks that you grow for your aquaponics set and put it on your toast
It apparently tastes like a bland vegimite

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:32:41 No.11830319 Report

Quoted By: >>11830372

>>11830317
Interesting, wonder what the overall efficiency of it would be though, seems like you would lose a lot of energy that way rather than passive surface bags/tubes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:33:50 No.11830321 Report

Quoted By: >>11830323 >>11830348 >>11830641

>>11829616
>>11829644
>>11829678
>>11829723
>>11829756
Poor little Murray
Launched to Mars in a Hurry
With no plans of living, indeed
“I’ve got it!” he said
With an idea in his head
“A printer is all that I need!”
Well when Murray touched down
He was met with a frown
As the diggers were taking the lead
And it was not soon after
When the frowns turned to laughter
And his house fell apart with great speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:34:07 No.11830323 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830321
based

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:36:58 No.11830329 Report

Quoted By: >>11830344

Alright original printfag here, i will never post printing material again if we can have a serious non inflammatory discussion about martian structural infrastructure.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:38:21 No.11830332 Report

Quoted By: >>11830360 >>11830486 >>11830488

cool. oldspace BTFO yet again

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:42:44 No.11830344 Report

Quoted By: >>11830356

>>11830329
Sure, the first step to discuss is how to protect your colony from hard radiation. A thin wall of polymer concrete is insufficient.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:43:48 No.11830348 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830321
Hello, based department?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:47:28 No.11830356 Report

Quoted By: >>11830365

>>11830344
However a thick layer of polymer concrete would be, also since you can forecast radiation events you could have a shelter or have sleeping quarters in the ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:49:07 No.11830360 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830332
>inb4 Bob and Doug roast alive on reentry

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:50:24 No.11830365 Report

Quoted By: >>11830385

>>11830356
Yes and now it's gone from a simple thin wall egg to needing metres of shielding like every other habitat, wonder how much the print time has increased by. GCRs are not dependant on the sun, it's in the name, although sun activity does increase this type of radiation.

>sleeping quarters in the ground

So now you need all the other infrastructure that everyone else has already been suggesting on top of all the printing infrastructure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:55:34 No.11830372 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830319
It’s pretty effective since one species is 52% protein and 36% fat
https://phys.org/news/2018-01-microbes-astronauts-human-food.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 00:59:47 No.11830385 Report

Quoted By: >>11830396 >>11830417 >>11830506

>>11830365
>simple thin wall egg to needing metres
The point of the polymer is to not need meters
>So now you need all the other infrastructure that everyone else has
No the cargo starships have shielding for radiation, so you see a rad spike coming you leave the hab and take shelter in the old starship then when its over you go back to your house

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:00:47 No.11830387 Report

Quoted By:

>Dig out space from ground
>Machine makes concrete culverts from regolith
>Stack and concrete glue culverts into base
>Living quarters and life support unnaground
>Industry and depots on ground level
>Aerospace traffic control windowed rec room and experimental conservatory up above
Nothing super fancy needed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:03:25 No.11830396 Report

Quoted By: >>11830430

>>11830385
>The point of the polymer is to not need meters

And when you post a source with actual data and tests we can have a discussion about that.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:04:28 No.11830400 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829577
Quiet you. Artemis is best girl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:06:19 No.11830407 Report

Quoted By: >>11830458 >>11830813

>https://youtu.be/axnuLepJufs
For those of you who want to see the print in action

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:07:38 No.11830410 Report

Quoted By: >>11830416

>>11830269
>greenhouses are Stupid
>just grow fish on the surface in an aquarium

Jfc

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:09:41 No.11830416 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830410
Yes you imbecile and if you don't understand why then fuck off back to school.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:09:53 No.11830417 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830385
>The point of the polymer is to not need meters
You need meters worth of literally any material. GCRs consist of ultra high energy, heavy, fully ionized atomic nuclei, for example iron nuclei moving at more than half of light speed or more. They do not stop easily, and as they are brought to a stop via collisions the interactions with matter that occur create showers of secondary radiation that also must be stopped. In some cases (such as high energy electrons) the secondary radiation can actually be more of a problem than the primary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:17:33 No.11830430 Report

Quoted By: >>11830455

>>11830396
>https://www.scientific.net/AMR.1129.131
>https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.osti.gov/etdeweb/servlets/purl/20078269&ved=2ahUKEwipjYzMopnqAhW_j3IEHSZDDIYQFjABegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw3dloFsVnIC-lrn32RjdZ9M

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:21:00 No.11830439 Report

Quoted By: >>11830486

>>11829402
It's a handy source of all the various fucky trace elements humans need to live if you chuck them in a reprocessor instead of burning them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:23:56 No.11830446 Report

Quoted By: >>11830467 >>11830610

>find Robert Zubrin and Jeff Greason (the plasma sail guy) on Twatter because I want to ask them questions
>Zubrin is a huge lefty retard
Social media was a mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:25:17 No.11830455 Report

Quoted By: >>11830474 >>11830482

>>11830430
>the first paper
>The final conclusion is that epoxy resin is an efficient additive for neutron shielding concretes improving its ability to protect mainly against low energy neutrons

Wow, its fucking nothing

>the second paper
>nuclear waste containers

Not even remotely the same application or radiation regime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:25:55 No.11830458 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830407
PROOOOOOOOONT

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:29:23 No.11830467 Report

Quoted By: >>11830470 >>11830473 >>11830479 >>11830556

>>11830446
Yeah I hate that shit. Why are so many sci people left wing, is it because they are pop-sci? Scott Manley is pretty fucking passive aggressive with his political tweets, but people like Mr. Reddit aka Hank Green will reply to POTUS and say shit like “fuck you” and get thousands of likes. It’s all so tiresome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:30:04 No.11830470 Report

Quoted By: >>11830479 >>11830480

>>11830467
It's because they spend over a decade in academia and assume that rabid campus Communism is normal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:31:58 No.11830473 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830467
Elon Musk is non conformist, who only tweets popular stuff for streetcred.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:32:46 No.11830474 Report

Quoted By: >>11830483

>>11830455
>Wow, its fucking nothing
Sure thing bud

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:33:56 No.11830479 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830467
>>11830470
It's all jewish subversion. Remember that America was actually landing on the moon when college propaganda was AGAINST communism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:34:08 No.11830480 Report

Quoted By: >>11830481

>>11830470
Most likely the correct answer. What is their end game though, to have Biden in office and see Artemis/Mars funding cut? Trump might want Artemis for his own ego, but we will still be going to the Moon. Also daily reminder that astronaut Jack Schmitt, the Apollo geologist astronaut, was/is a big republican- and even left the Planetary Society because he fucking hates Bill Nye and saw how Nye was politicizing everything and turning it into a shitty climate change organization, at least Schmitt is based but he’ll he dead soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:35:20 No.11830481 Report

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>>11830480
There's no "end game" for them. It's a religion disguised as politics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:35:21 No.11830482 Report

Quoted By: >>11830489 >>11830513

>>11830455
>The final conclusion is that epoxy resin is an efficient additive for neutron shielding concretes improving its ability to protect mainly against low energy neutrons
So you only read the abstract? Why should i care about you opinion again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:35:24 No.11830483 Report

Quoted By: >>11830492

>>11830474
Low energy neutrons are not GCRs or even relevant in any way to dumb FUCK

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:35:51 No.11830486 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830332
galactic if affirmative
>>11830439
worth their weight in phosphorus

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:37:02 No.11830488 Report

Quoted By: >>11830498

>>11830332
If a Crew Dragon can be refurbished in under 50 days the Shuttle is officially surpassed on everything but cool factor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:37:08 No.11830489 Report

Quoted By: >>11830494 >>11830523

>>11830482
I'm not going to pay 36 euros to read some meme paper when the abstract is as laughable as that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:37:19 No.11830490 Report

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>>11830269
It's all the same. Those are all just ideas without any numbers to back them up. You might as well just post some shitty CGI. I suspect next you're going to tell me to just look this stuff up rather than providing any numbers to demonstrate that these are feasible at all.
>>salad type stuff
provides basically no calories.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:38:09 No.11830492 Report

Quoted By: >>11830513

>>11830483
>reading one sentence and thinking its the entire journal.
Wow i wonder who the dumb one is

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:39:11 No.11830494 Report

Quoted By: >>11830514 >>11830519

>>11830489
>36 euros
>euros
Kek you also aren't going to space.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:40:04 No.11830498 Report

Quoted By: >>11830560 >>11830608

>>11830488
>cool factor
Put flame-decals on the sides, Shuttle never had flames. Well, not cool ones at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:45:47 No.11830506 Report

Quoted By: >>11830518

>>11830385
>you see a rad spike coming you leave the hab and take shelter
As opposed to just not giving a single fuck and going about your business like usual because your whole habitat is already safely covered under several meters of soil

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:48:51 No.11830513 Report

Quoted By: >>11830521

>>11830492
>>11830482
You understand the function of an abstract right? If this material was anything like being claimed the abstract would look like this

>Here is my submission for a nobel prize for the discovery of a previously unknown wonder material that is capable of totally stopping even the most harsh intergalactic rays with 300mm of less of material

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:49:05 No.11830514 Report

Quoted By: >>11830519

>>11830494
Hahaha yes! The proonting rises!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:50:17 No.11830518 Report

Quoted By: >>11830522 >>11830539

>>11830506
one is a quality of life improvement, the other is dismal living.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:50:21 No.11830519 Report

Quoted By: >>11830527

>>11830514
>>11830494
Wow so this is the power of proonting, graphic renders, a non functional trash prototype and ad hominem attacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:51:28 No.11830521 Report

Quoted By: >>11830529

>>11830513
Samefag, but ill entertain it. The abstract will state the goals and final conclusion but it leaves out the meat of the experiment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:51:30 No.11830522 Report

Quoted By: >>11830536

>>11830518
Fuck off already your arguments are bunk bullshit and you still can't source your radiation claims because you are full of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:51:35 No.11830523 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830489
>What is scihub

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:53:01 No.11830527 Report

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>>11830519
As opposed to what? A lack of renders, plans or even statements, while having far more ad hominem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:53:31 No.11830529 Report

Quoted By: >>11830541

>>11830521
The conclusion being that the additive "improves" its ability to "mainly" shield against a particle type which we don't care about and is vastly less energetic than the ones we are concerned about. So yes, I don't think I'll bother going to go look for a pirated version of the paper.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:54:44 No.11830533 Report

Quoted By:

>this kills the proontfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:54:58 No.11830536 Report

Quoted By: >>11830540 >>11830542 >>11830554

>>11830522
if you think mental health isn't going to be the hardest challenge mars has to offer you are retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:55:47 No.11830539 Report

Quoted By: >>11830545

>>11830518
This shit always comes back to the same fucking place. You just think that anyone not living in a printed structure can't have windows and not having windows is some sort of doom to depression spiral. Both are fucking ridiculous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:56:15 No.11830540 Report

Quoted By: >>11830678

>>11830536
Ah yes and the difference between direct windows and large periscope windows is surely such a huge difference. Knowing you are getting fried by radiation in return for your direct windows will help their mental health no end I'm sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:56:16 No.11830541 Report

Quoted By: >>11830544

>>11830529
>says the person who hasn't read it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:56:43 No.11830542 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830536
Yeah, but how do you deal with it?

I'm thinking a combination of a lot of people, a lot of space, and mild to moderate amounts of porn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:57:17 No.11830544 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830541
Neither have you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:57:24 No.11830545 Report

Quoted By: >>11830547 >>11830555 >>11830559

>>11830539
you have yet to provide a convincing plan for a habitat that offers that anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 01:58:32 No.11830547 Report

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>>11830545
Your plan is full of holes and not convincing either. The one shitpost drawing of assembling steel tubes and burying them is infinitely superior to your buttplug trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:00:28 No.11830554 Report

Quoted By: >>11830569

>>11830536
>do mandatory 10 meditation daily
>0 mental health issues
NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT!! YOU NEED TO SPEND 100 BILLION 100 YEARS IN AND BUY MENTAL HEALTH INSURANCE TO PAY FOR $1000 TRILLION DRUGS

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:00:27 No.11830555 Report

Quoted By: >>11830630

>>11830545
http://bigidea.nianet.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/ICES-2005-2846-Clawson-et-al.pdf

Not that guy, but here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:00:30 No.11830556 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830467
Scott keeps political shit out of his youtune channel tho. He can write anything he wants on his twitter as long as it doesn't impact his videos imo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:02:15 No.11830559 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830545
Any form of buried structure can just have second floors with windows. Any of them can have skylights and piped fibre optic lighting. Any of them can have mspaintanon's periscope-style windows. Your buttplug doesn't have the sole advantage of the use of the surface, it's just stuck there because of the nature of additive manufacture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:02:15 No.11830560 Report

Quoted By: >>11830639

>>11830498
the super dracos are sorta like flames on the side

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:08:44 No.11830569 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830554
Do you want a self sustained colony or a nasa mission?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:10:06 No.11830573 Report

Quoted By: >>11830575 >>11830576

trips and the ariane 5 carrying JWST will explode

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:11:01 No.11830575 Report

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>>11830573
Dub and Starship wil explode on first mission launch

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:11:43 No.11830576 Report

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>>11830573
How can it explode if it never launches?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:11:47 No.11830577 Report

Quoted By: >>11830613

So in the name of a proper discussion I checked out that paper to stop you retards screching, much like that anon suggested the entire thing is talking about neutron radiation, I have attached a table from the paper as an example. This paper is not really what we are looking for because high energy atomic nucleii are the issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:11:52 No.11830578 Report

Quoted By: >>11830584 >>11830589 >>11830590

I’m baffled as to how there’s genuine angry arguments about what sort of habitat people would live in on Mars. Can’t we just appreciate how fucking awesome it is that people will go to Mars? They’ll figure out what to put people in somehow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:13:08 No.11830584 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830578
You can go to reddit or any number of popsci channels for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:14:35 No.11830589 Report

Quoted By: >>11830595

>>11830578
they'll never get there if they insist on overengineering every simple thing just because.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:14:40 No.11830590 Report

Quoted By: >>11830601 >>11830709

>>11830578
I like the printing research nasa is doing and yet even the first time i posted it i was met with autistic vitriol because it wasn't a backhoe

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:15:14 No.11830595 Report

Quoted By: >>11830601

>>11830589
C’mon, isn’t it obvious SpaceX will just have people sleep in the Starship?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:16:33 No.11830601 Report

Quoted By: >>11830872

>>11830595
No we have to send starships pull of plastic concrete to print buttplugs instead

>>11830590
Because it's obviously a shit idea. If it was for example, directly sintering raw regolith into metres thick walls you might have a seller.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:18:22 No.11830608 Report

Quoted By: >>11830639

>>11830498
>flame-decals
Ground landing with those engines burning would be cooler than decals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:19:22 No.11830610 Report

Quoted By: >>11830614 >>11830632 >>11830709

>>11830446
Zubrin is definitely not a lefty, he rants about socialists and environmentalists all the time and has talked about how he wants a new party focused on liberty. He does hate Trump though so I can see how you might get that impression.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:20:13 No.11830613 Report

Quoted By: >>11830623

>>11830577
Interesting, however that and the chink paper hes posting is showing some level of radiation shielding, which means that we should look into the material science for high energy nuclei

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:20:52 No.11830614 Report

Quoted By: >>11830709

>>11830610
What’s Trump trigger him for?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:22:11 No.11830620 Report

Quoted By:

>"3D printed surface habitats? No way, they didn't really think that'd work, did they? You're pullin' my leg"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:22:35 No.11830623 Report

Quoted By: >>11830628 >>11830722

>>11830613
It's the logical conclusion of putting high atomic mass plastics into concrete sure, but there is no path for thin walled structures shielding against cosmic rays.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:24:03 No.11830628 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830623
Shoot down the cosmic rays

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:24:15 No.11830630 Report

Quoted By: >>11830649

>>11830555
Very nice but greenhouse?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:24:28 No.11830632 Report

Quoted By: >>11830638 >>11830651 >>11830706

>>11830610
>he wants a new party focused on liberty
... libertarians?
Political parties should almost be illegal though, really. I hate the two party system so god damned much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:26:14 No.11830638 Report

Quoted By: >>11830656

>>11830632
It’s less dumb than it sounds, because the Democrat and Republican parties are big tent parties that contain subgroups. If Zubrin really is a libertarian then I’d agree with him

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:26:21 No.11830639 Report

Quoted By: >>11830709

>>11830560
>>11830608
Solid point, do you anons think we're likely to see a ground landing of a crewed Dragon? NASA already shat on the idea and said 'no' didn't they? Doesn't rule out private customers though I suppose.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:27:23 No.11830641 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830321

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:30:10 No.11830649 Report

Quoted By: >>11830657

>>11830630
Connect the greenhouses to the tunnels.

Bam, you have a system that has natural sunlight and can grow crops easily, but also has adequate radiation shielding and is relatively cheap and easy to expand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:31:12 No.11830651 Report

Quoted By: >>11830673 >>11830825

>>11830632
Two party politics is inevitable in any system where only one candidate can win the election.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:31:26 No.11830655 Report

Quoted By:

How much would it cost to build a space station like the ISS post-Starship?
I figure that the primary cost wouldn't be launch costs, but instead the cost of the modules.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:31:53 No.11830656 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830638
I mean, the current form of the party system would not survive the emergence of a third party that had anywhere close to proportional support from the voters. As soon as the libertarians or anyone else had a real foothold, the main two would splinter. It'd be beautiful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:32:17 No.11830657 Report

Quoted By: >>11830661 >>11830666 >>11831068

>>11830649
Growing crops in martian sunlight is not going to be simple. You can't put earth crops in less than half the natural sunlight and with double length season and expect everything to work. LED gang master race.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:33:08 No.11830661 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830657
Genetic engineering and/or supplemental lighting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:34:17 No.11830666 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830657
Definitely, you're gonna need to replicate what the plants expect, way before any adaptation/modification occurs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:35:30 No.11830672 Report

Quoted By: >>11830680

nuke mars and throw algae and cockroaches on it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:36:03 No.11830673 Report

Quoted By: >>11830684 >>11830688 >>11830825

>>11830651
I'd say that modern democracy hasn't been around long enough to actually make that call.
I think (hope) that it's just as inevitable for there to eventually be a groundswell of retaliation against the corruption inherent to a two-party system.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:36:41 No.11830677 Report

Quoted By:

How deep would a pit on Mars need to be for atmospheric pressure to reach tolerable levels?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:36:52 No.11830678 Report

Quoted By: >>11830685

>>11830540
Its the difference between a passive and active activity which is actually a large issue

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:37:05 No.11830680 Report

Quoted By: >>11830687 >>11830748

>>11830672
Nuke Venus' atmosphere and blow off chunks of it 'til it chills the fuck out and quits melting lead on the surface. Fucking Venus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:38:13 No.11830684 Report

Quoted By: >>11830693

>>11830673
Even Rome had a two-party system, actually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:38:15 No.11830685 Report

Quoted By: >>11830719

>>11830678
what does that even mean

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:38:54 No.11830687 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830680
Based venus

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:38:57 No.11830688 Report

Quoted By: >>11830695

>>11830673
Just introduce proportional representation lmao.

Bam, you got five or six big parties.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:39:43 No.11830693 Report

Quoted By: >>11830700 >>11830741

>>11830684
Yeah then it became a dictatorship

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:40:43 No.11830695 Report

Quoted By: >>11830705

>>11830688
Proportional representational is even worse, my country has it and it's fucking dreadful. The smaller parties are still corrupt, don't represent the values they claim and cuck to the big two parties to get power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:41:23 No.11830700 Report

Quoted By: >>11830712

>>11830693
It was pretty good for the first two dictators desu, unless your ass showed up on a prescription list

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:42:26 No.11830705 Report

Quoted By: >>11830715

>>11830695
I didn't say it'd give you good government, I just said it'd mean more than two parties.

Out of curiosity, what country?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:42:30 No.11830706 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830632
I misremembered slightly, he wants a new Liberal (read: classical liberal) party. An article he wrote about it: https://reason.com/2017/03/04/america-needs-a-liberal-party/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:43:04 No.11830709 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830590
>even the first time i posted it i was met with autistic vitriol because it wasn't a backhoe
It's because you (and maybe another proontfag too) forced the meme way too hard.
And it's basically a shitty idea, because the whole point if proonting is to not have to ship a bunch of snowflake plastic to Mars, just basic binding agents like cement. So you still have to dig to get the material, then make it into marscrete in sub-freezing temperatures with almost no atmosphere, which means you can't just dump some powder and sand into a bucket with some water. It needs a lot more R&D, maybe 2030 after we've been there a few synods.
Digging doesn't require you to mix shit and keep it from freezing/drying too fast. You just dig trenches and bulldoze piles of dirt.

>>11830610
So a lolbertarian?
>>11830614
Never-Trumpers are still a thing. There are too many country-club Republicans can't handle "uncouth" people, and are often the same ones who are the first to placate the latest Democrat whining by giving in completely.

>>11830639
I'm not sure if the "fix" for the boom-boom makes the super dracos not reusable, so they would have to come up with something better than a burst valve, as well as simply testing the fuck out of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:43:41 No.11830710 Report

Quoted By: >>11830714 >>11830718 >>11830748

FUCK VENUS
FUCK VENUS
FUCK VENUS

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:44:09 No.11830712 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830700
Some of the Roman emperors were pretty great, and dictatorships with good dictators have the potential to be better than democracies, but as a system it’s ultimately undesirable because there’s no way to guarantee the ruler can be qualified and you can’t get them out without a rebellion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:44:32 No.11830714 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830710
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:44:47 No.11830715 Report

Quoted By: >>11830720

>>11830705
NZfag. It's worse because it gives you the illusion of choice when it reality it's the same two big power brokers and functions essentially the same as the two party system.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:45:39 No.11830717 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829135
> i'm gonnnna stakkkkkkk

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:45:50 No.11830718 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830710
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:46:22 No.11830719 Report

Quoted By: >>11830724 >>11830725 >>11830735

>>11830685
If you have to make an active decision to see outside a window it means your environment is going to be more taxing on your mind than if you can see out of windows during normal activity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:47:08 No.11830720 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830715
AI direct theocracy when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:47:38 No.11830722 Report

Quoted By: >>11830734

>>11830623
>putting high atomic mass plastics into concrete sure
Wouldn't this work though?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:47:40 No.11830723 Report

Quoted By: >>11830732 >>11830744 >>11830778 >>11831135 >>11831165 >>11831879

Pick your poison

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:47:48 No.11830724 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830719
A periscope window can be the exact same size and location in relation to your floorspace as a buttplug window, it's literally identical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:48:01 No.11830725 Report

Quoted By: >>11830731

>>11830719
I don't see how, my window has been blocked off for years and I've not suffered any significant psychological damage from it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:49:08 No.11830731 Report

Quoted By: >>11830739 >>11830747 >>11830750

>>11830725
>itt actual goblin who hides deep beneath the earth

People like sun anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:49:16 No.11830732 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830723
Unnagroun is fine by me, just go deep and make the interior spaces big to stave off claustrophobia in those weak enough to suffer from it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:49:29 No.11830734 Report

Quoted By: >>11830862

>>11830722
That's what they have done and yes, it results in an improvement in shielding, and it could absolutely reduce the amount of shielding needed against cosmic rays but you would still need metres of the stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:49:42 No.11830735 Report

Quoted By: >>11830859

>>11830719
>active decision
It just sits there. What active decision?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:50:27 No.11830739 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830731
>colonize Mars with this one weird trick! Surface-dwellers HATE this!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:50:32 No.11830741 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830693
Yep, entirely due to the pettiness of bipartisan politics.
The conservative faction wanted to fuck over Caesar in any way they can because he's one of the progressives, so they make some BS excuse for why he has to step down from his current position at the head of Rome's largest army so they can then put him on trial for political crimes.
In other words, giving him three options: Go into hiding, get arrested, or attempt to conquer Rome for himself with his giant highly experienced army of extremely loyal soldiers.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:50:56 No.11830744 Report

Quoted By: >>11830753 >>11831130

>>11830723
I have other plans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:51:30 No.11830747 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830731
If your colonists are so fucking fragile that the difference between a periscope window and a normal window, both the same size, causes such mental stress then they shouldn't be sent there in the fucking first place.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:51:36 No.11830748 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830680
>>11830710

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:51:59 No.11830750 Report

Quoted By: >>11830754

>>11830731
There's no such thing as getting direct sunlight on Mars if you don't like skin cancer. Filtered/piped light is the closest you will get and you can get just as much of that with any other method as you will with proont

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:52:33 No.11830753 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830744
Take the domepill?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:53:10 No.11830754 Report

Quoted By: >>11830757

>>11830750
>There's no such thing as getting direct sunlight on Mars if you don't like skin cancer

Just make a recessed window

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:53:39 No.11830757 Report

Quoted By: >>11830761

>>11830754
That's not direct sunlight

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:54:56 No.11830761 Report

Quoted By: >>11830763

>>11830757
Yeah but you can still look outside whenever you want. Ideally I’ll just get my flesh removed so the radiation is no longer a threat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:55:36 No.11830763 Report

Quoted By: >>11830769 >>11830770

>>11830761
and you can look outside whenever you want through a periscope window.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:56:59 No.11830769 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830763
I guess yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 02:58:02 No.11830770 Report

Quoted By: >>11830771

>>11830763
Or just heading topside with a suit, if you wanna head outside. Shielded viewing decks on the surface wouldn't be that bad either, provided you don't spend all day up there every day and avoid days where there's a flare.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:00:44 No.11830771 Report

Quoted By: >>11830785

>>11830770
Viewing platforms would absolutely btfo dedicated surface bases because they wouldn't have to compromise for the purposes of fulltime living and thus could relax standards for more viewing area.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:02:32 No.11830777 Report

Quoted By: >>11830799

Why isn't the Progress more cylindrical? It is more smoother than the Soyuz but still it would make use of internal volume better if it was just a cylinder like the cygnus, atv, htv

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:02:46 No.11830778 Report

Quoted By: >>11830788 >>11830802

>>11830723
Safety:
>underground: ***
>pods: **
>printed: *

Space:
>printed: ***
>underground: **
>pods: *

Aesthetics and QoL:
>printed: ***
>pods: **
>underground: *

Living in pods or underground sounds really shitty, but living in a pressurised rock vessel sounds kinda risky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:06:09 No.11830785 Report

Quoted By: >>11831245

>>11830771
>meet qt barmaid in unnagroun Mars city
>take her topside for a viewing-deck date
>finger her under the approving gaze of Phobos
It's a future worth fighting for

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:08:57 No.11830788 Report

Quoted By: >>11830831

>>11830778
Assuming you have the power source (if you don't have megawatts available then just forget about mars entirely anyway) then a TBM has the ability to produce huge amounts of space compared to proonting. If they reach their goal of a snail speed then the amount of space you are able to make with one TBM is tremendous. If you have the correct rock substrate then you wouldn't even need to line the walls with pressed concrete bricks, just spray the walls with a rubberised coating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:13:23 No.11830799 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830777
Fairing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:14:23 No.11830802 Report

Quoted By: >>11830812 >>11830821

>>11830778
I'm telling you my dude. Unnaground is only one part of a system.

The bulk of the habitations are in tunnels, but the tunnels can be connected to aboveground structures.

I'm picturing either inflatable plastic domes or skyscrapers made out of homemade Martian steel and glass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:16:16 No.11830812 Report

Quoted By: >>11830815

>>11830802
What function would the above ground structures serve? Skyscrapers are living and office environments which you would just put underground. The only function of above ground spaces is to utilise sunlight and views either for food production or park/relaxation spaces.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:16:59 No.11830813 Report

Quoted By: >>11830852

>>11830407
So much wasted unused space in that shape.
There's a reason absolutely no one sane lives in a circular house.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:17:22 No.11830815 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830812
>The only function of above ground spaces is to utilise sunlight and views either for food production or park/relaxation spaces.

Precisely.

Can't let everyone get cabin fever, and besides, there's free sunlight up there for growing crops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:19:12 No.11830819 Report

Quoted By: >>11830827 >>11830829 >>11830830

Why does the ISS need to be deorbited? Why does it cost 4 billion a year to run?
Can't it just be abandoned, left in place as it gains value as a piece of space history?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:19:37 No.11830821 Report

Quoted By: >>11830824

>>11830802
Above ground structures will be built with the excess material from tunneling. All that volume has to go somewhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:21:06 No.11830824 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830821
Aboveground structures will need a massive amount of tensile strength.

Atmosphere pushing outwards exerts a significant amount of force.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:21:29 No.11830825 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830651
Yeah CGP Grey has a really good video explaining this. I always thought it was bullshit but he does a good job explaining it. Inevitably large opinions will be split into “Side A” and “Side B”, and a party representing the different arguments will form.
>>11830673
It’s literally inevitable, what do you mean it’s “too early to tell?” Even George Washington warned of his concerns about two parties in his farewell address

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:21:54 No.11830827 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830819
>Can't it just be abandoned,
No, it's orbit isn't permanent. You'd have to boost it every now and then.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:21:58 No.11830828 Report

Quoted By: >>11830851 >>11830896 >>11830926

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GYpxeum12U

You guys see this? Amazingly realistic imitation skylights that use a molecular strcture to simulate how the wavelengths of sunlight interact through the kilometres of atmosphere, I wonder if a similar thing is able to replicate the martian atmosphere, extremely kino.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:22:35 No.11830829 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830819
It's too low and will be dragged back into the atmosphere without periodic boosts.
I wonder what it would take to boost it high enough and circularize at an orbit where that wouldn't happen for centuries or more?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:22:53 No.11830830 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830819
>Why does the ISS need to be deorbited?
>it cost 4 billion a year to run
I feel like you answered your own question

Maybe they could land the modules aboard Starships and put them in a museum

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:23:24 No.11830831 Report

Quoted By: >>11830840

>>11830788
Has the weight and size of a Prufrock unit been documented yet? And does it need water? I'm wondering if they can be delivered to and operate on Mars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:26:55 No.11830840 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830831
presumably the same radius as their other machines so as long as it's a similar length to their other machines it could fit in one starship payload so long as the weight works, doesn't seem like it will weigh more than 150 tonnes to me. Water could be a problem but there are options, you could use supercritical CO2 or once you get the machine down it's initial hole you seal it off and pressurise with martian atmosphere until water won't sublimate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:31:26 No.11830851 Report

Quoted By: >>11830896

>>11830828
Such a thing would go a long way in large unnagroun common areas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:31:48 No.11830852 Report

Quoted By: >>11830860

>>11830813
How?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:34:17 No.11830859 Report

Quoted By: >>11830863 >>11830871 >>11830875

>>11830735
you have to go to an observation area. What part of that is hard to understand? How many windows do you have in your house/apartment?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:34:53 No.11830860 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830852
Take a pencil, draw a circle, now draw a square with the same floor area, now fill them in with couches, desks, appliances etc... and be amazed at how much easier the square space is to utilise. Now you realise why literally no one uses circles in their building despite the structural advantages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:35:20 No.11830862 Report

Quoted By: >>11830871

>>11830734
i doubt it would be meters

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:35:56 No.11830863 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830859
>you have to walk over to a window to look out a window
Oh Christ my mental heeeeeaaaaaaalth I'm going insaaaaane having to walk to look out a window like any average house on Earth fuuuuuuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:38:34 No.11830871 Report

Quoted By: >>11830881

>>11830862
GCRs go through over a dozen metres of solid concrete which already has great radiation shielding properties, there is no way you are reducing that by a factor of 24x to get it to even half a meter just by adding plastics to it, there is a limit to how much additives your concrete can have before it becomes useless as a construction material.

>>11830859
Why did you just ignore the entire reply chain talking about how periscope windows can be the exact same sizes and placements as normal windows and then go and construct a strawman?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:39:09 No.11830872 Report

Quoted By: >>11830882

>>11830601
that could be the final product we don't know as its still being developed. It also could be something like pic related which would basically be a hybrid of both areas of thought.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:39:59 No.11830875 Report

Quoted By: >>11830900

>>11830859
You don't have to go anywhere anymore than you need to go anywhere to see out of any other window. The entire point of the periscope concept was that it could be put anywhere, you could even make much bigger and more accessible ones than surface windows before compromising shielding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:41:03 No.11830881 Report

Quoted By: >>11830887 >>11830888

>>11830871
>periscope windows can be the exact same sizes and placements as normal windows
Can you see out of them normally while in your hab or do you have to go to a viewing area? The term periscope means something anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:41:04 No.11830882 Report

Quoted By: >>11830902

>>11830872
Sintering metres thick walls of raw regolith is an entirely different prospect to 3d printing concrete, there is nothing similar in the design process at all apart from making a big machine that can move a head in xyz axis and these machines already exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:43:01 No.11830887 Report

Quoted By: >>11830906

>>11830881
>>Can you see out of them normally
>look through periscope
>see surface
Yes? Not same anon, but why do you object/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:43:36 No.11830888 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830881
>Can you see out of them normally while in your hab

yes, it's a viewing port as big as you want that you look at and shows a reflected view of the martian landscape, correctly done it would be entirely indistinguishable from a glass window and requires no complicated materials or construction techniques at all.

>The term periscope means something anon

Yes, a periscope refers to relfecting light down a tube using mirrors, you are disinegenuously conflating it with a submarine periscope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:47:49 No.11830896 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830828
>>11830851
It'd be better than the cheap skylights Ceres had in The Expanse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:48:26 No.11830900 Report

Quoted By: >>11830907 >>11830916

>>11830875
In my house on Earth when I wake up I can look out the window, when I go downstairs I can look out a window, when I go into my kitchen I can look out a window, when I am sitting down watching TV I can see out a window, when I am sitting down eating at my dining room table I can see out a window. So literally everywhere in my house I can basically see the outdoor landscape, you cannot do that with periscopes it's just not possible and that's where a mental health issue arises because you have to go to a separate area to look out a window.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:49:35 No.11830902 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830882
Do you know what the context of the picture I posted is?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:50:14 No.11830904 Report

Quoted By: >>11831789

chinese sat from yesterday unfurling it's solar panels

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:51:06 No.11830906 Report

Quoted By: >>11830913 >>11830914

>>11830887
Because you have to stop what you're doing to look through the periscope till work outside that's not a passive thing that you were doing. So that is going to be stressful on the mind because it is not apparent passive activity when you have normal windows you can look out them or see out them unconsciously you can look out the window wall you were doing something else if you have to look out a periscope it is no different then the same issues you have on a summary and they pick very mentally strong individuals to work submarines for a specific reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:51:16 No.11830907 Report

Quoted By: >>11830922

>>11830900
>you cannot do that with periscopes it's just not possible
What did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:53:38 No.11830913 Report

Quoted By: >>11830943

>>11830906
It's not a submarine periscope you dope, multiple anons have pointed this out to you. It's just the same mechanism a couple of mirrors. You can do it at any scale.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:53:53 No.11830914 Report

Quoted By: >>11830943

>>11830906
>Because you have to stop what you're doing to look through the periscope
Like a window?
>normalfag needs constant exposure to surface in order to not go crazy
Stay on Earth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:54:23 No.11830916 Report

Quoted By: >>11830943

>>11830900
>you cannot do that with periscopes it's just not possible

Source: my ass. Even assuming your made up shit is true, if your colonists are so pathetic that needing to walk for 30 seconds to go look out a window causes catastrophic mental health problems then they are unsuitable mentally to ever leave earth in any capacity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:56:00 No.11830922 Report

Quoted By: >>11830927 >>11830929 >>11830933 >>11831097

>>11830907
If you glance over at a periscope can you see outside like if you were just walking past and you glance at that periscope can you see picturesque landscape? can you see directly outside your hab? or do you have to go up to your periscope and look inside of it to see? that is what I am arguing because that is extra effort just to see your eternal landscape.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:58:46 No.11830926 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830828
My biggest takeaway is when they changed Randal(l) H(a/o)ll's name halfway through his interview.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:59:01 No.11830927 Report

Quoted By: >>11831025

>>11830922
>If you glance over at a periscope can you see outside like if you were just walking past and you glance at that periscope can you see picturesque landscape?

yes

>can you see directly outside your hab?

yes

>or do you have to go up to your periscope and look inside of it to see?

no

>that is what I am arguing because that is extra effort just to see your eternal landscape.

We have been telling you this the whole fucking reply chain you dumb cunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 03:59:42 No.11830929 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830922
>If you glance over at a periscope can you see outside like if you were just walking past and you glance at that periscope can you see picturesque landscape? can you see directly outside your hab?
Yeah

Do you have special eyes that can't see reflected images from far away?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:03:20 No.11830933 Report

Quoted By: >>11830947

>>11830922
i remember getting some kind of parascope in a kid's meal 20+ years ago. Worked then, why don't you think it works now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:06:28 No.11830943 Report

Quoted By: >>11830948 >>11830953 >>11830955 >>11830992

>>11830916
>>11830913
>>11830914
Its not the same anons and it will effect you mentally. Since its covid I've got an experiment for you. Go get a months supply of food and black out all your doors and windows. Make a viewing periscope for some windows and only allow yourself 1 eva a week (thats generous). Report back on your experience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:07:29 No.11830947 Report

Quoted By: >>11830954

>>11830933
I'm not saying a periscope won't work I'm saying it won't be the same mental stimulation of a window.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:07:56 No.11830948 Report

Quoted By: >>11830954 >>11831021

>>11830943
>Make a viewing periscope for some windows

IT LOOKS LIKE A NORMAL FUCKING WINDOW YOU WONT BE ABLE TO EVEN TELL THE DIFFERENCE YOU RETARD HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TELL YOU

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:12:36 No.11830953 Report

Quoted By: >>11831021

>>11830943
Since it clearly hasn't saved you, how about your black out your windows and see if it actually drives you sane?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:12:52 No.11830954 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830947
Basically
>>11830948
this, why wouldn't that be the case?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:13:02 No.11830955 Report

Quoted By: >>11830960

>>11830943
People live in submarines for months.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:16:05 No.11830960 Report

Quoted By: >>11830964 >>11830970

>>11830955
Yes and the selection process is very dependent on mental toughness

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:16:56 No.11830963 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830078
>no take sky

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:17:45 No.11830964 Report

Quoted By: >>11830975

>>11830960
You mean like Mars will probably be??? There’d be more to see on Mars and probably more room even

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:18:37 No.11830970 Report

Quoted By: >>11830982

>>11830960
Just like the selection process for martian colonists will be. If you think fucking windows are a problem compared to never, ever being able to go outside into fresh air and sunlight ever again then I have a bridge to sell you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:20:16 No.11830975 Report

Quoted By: >>11830979

>>11830964
The initial selection process absolutely will be but we are talking about a standard colony here, eventually it can't be Russia levels of utilitarianism

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:21:37 No.11830979 Report

Quoted By: >>11830984

>>11830975
At which point buttplugs are not going to be sufficient to house the masses of people that are transiting over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:23:46 No.11830982 Report

Quoted By: >>11830990

>>11830970
No that is exactly my point, the level of stress imposed on these people is high so every design choice should be directed at stress mitigation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:24:50 No.11830984 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830979
I'm not arguing for buttplugs I'm arguing for above ground structures

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:26:48 No.11830989 Report

Quoted By: >>11831011

>>11830170
>>11830153

You know we've made entire fucking arenas held up by air, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air-supported_structure

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:26:50 No.11830990 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830982
Yes such as knowing you are getting fried by radiation in your insufficiently shielded above ground buildings and that periscope windows would give you THE EXACT SAME VIEW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:29:18 No.11830992 Report

Quoted By: >>11831008 >>11831012

>>11830943
>Go get a months supply of food and black out all your doors and windows. Make a viewing periscope for some windows and only allow yourself 1 eva a week (thats generous). Report back on your experience.
It's hilarious to me that you think this is an extreme experiment. You remember what site you're on? Done it, lived it, fine. Send NEETs to Mars, fags who need constant socialization to not lose their skulls are NOT welcome.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:30:57 No.11830995 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829597

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:37:27 No.11831008 Report

Quoted By: >>11831022

>>11830992
NEETs are failures who jack off to anime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:37:51 No.11831011 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830989
>cement except a dome
hmmm

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:38:53 No.11831012 Report

Quoted By: >>11831022 >>11831042

>>11830992
>You remember what site you're on
That should prove his point actually, NEETs are literally insane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:41:13 No.11831021 Report

Quoted By: >>11831024 >>11831027

>>11830948
>>11830953
>>11830948
>Live in a hole with mirrors for windows
Holy fuck anons that sounds like literal hell. I don't see the incentive to live there permanently if I could simply live here on earth and see 4k images of mars that would be a better view than a shitty periscope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:41:16 No.11831022 Report

Quoted By: >>11831032

>>11831008
>>11831012
Well then I guess Mars is cancelled

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:42:21 No.11831024 Report

Quoted By: >>11831032

>>11831021
Cool then stay here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:42:59 No.11831025 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830927
Hello anon welcome to mars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:43:10 No.11831027 Report

Quoted By: >>11831037

>>11831021
> Holy fuck anons that sounds like literal hell

Stay here then. I don’t see the issue as long as I can exchange videos with my wife periodically and go outside

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:45:57 No.11831032 Report

Quoted By: >>11831033 >>11831034

>>11831022
>>11831024
Or here me out, You dig a trench put your hab in it bury your sleeping quarters completely and they bury the rest of it but with surface level windows with heavy shutters like on the ISS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:46:52 No.11831033 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831032
PUT A GUN ON IT

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:47:31 No.11831034 Report

Quoted By: >>11831045

>>11831032
What part about metres of shielding don't you understand, unless it has a shaft that leads to an observation spot you can forget about it.. also

>prefabricated habitats

no

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:48:24 No.11831037 Report

Quoted By: >>11831043 >>11831051 >>11831062

>>11831027
>and go outside
If you think you will be going outside often you are sadly mistaken. Also any architecture firm worth its salt wont make something so intentionally depressing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:50:09 No.11831042 Report

Quoted By: >>11831047 >>11831067

>>11831012
>NEETs are literally insane.
And perfectly suited to underground lives with limited social interaction. Tell me I'm wrong, go on, lie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:50:52 No.11831043 Report

Quoted By: >>11831075

>>11831037
You can fitout the inside of underground habitats, use periscope windows and they will be aesthetically identical to your buttplug trash, which by the way, the interior looks like it was designed by a first year art student with no mind for practicality whatsoever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:51:05 No.11831045 Report

Quoted By: >>11831053

>>11831034
>no
so you are a proonter?
>What part about metres of shielding don't you understand
cone shaped window architecture. Wide at the outdoor level and small at the interior .

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:52:12 No.11831047 Report

Quoted By: >>11831058 >>11831061

>>11831042
> And perfectly suited to underground lives with limited social interaction

Oh yes we need completely unmotivated lazy shitheads with no actual skills

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:52:45 No.11831048 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830293
good question. for something that exists purely in space its whole life and has no aero considerations beyond slap some existing engines on it maybe mecheng, ship engineering (as in oldschool ships), possibly architecture as the thing is really only ever going to see 1g through one axis like a building would. interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:53:14 No.11831051 Report

Quoted By: >>11831093

>>11831037
>If you think you will be going outside often you are sadly mistaken

Oh damn Comrade Mao is gonna stop me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:53:36 No.11831053 Report

Quoted By: >>11831095

>>11831045
No, proonting is stupid and so is that design. A cone shape means the interior has progresively less and less radiation shielding towards the center and you are wasting a tremendous amount of interior space on whatever stairs or elevator mechanism you are using to go up the the windows for zero tangible benefit over periscope windows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:55:24 No.11831058 Report

Quoted By: >>11831065

>>11831047
A lot of skilled people live daily lives outside of work that are functionally identical to neets, they are called introverts and are exactly the psychological profile you would send, so long as they don't have crippling social anxiety which if you are holding a stable career you have overcome anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:56:34 No.11831061 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831047
Sounds more like an emotional attack than an honest assessment but here's a (you) anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:56:42 No.11831062 Report

Quoted By: >>11831093

>>11831037
>If you think you will be going outside often you are sadly mistaken

Communal suits/rovers able to be accessed by anyone in the colony on some kind of booking schedule is going to be a design element from day one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:58:12 No.11831065 Report

Quoted By: >>11831071

>>11831058
>A lot of skilled people live daily lives outside of work that are functionally identical to neets

Oh so not NEETs.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:58:38 No.11831067 Report

Quoted By: >>11831077 >>11831090

>>11831042
You aren't wrong but noone in their right mind will want a underground city of NEETs. That is how you end up with literal mole people. Elon will cater to aesthetics and has already said so for starship. His track record shows his aesthetic focus and the utilitarian type hab you are talking about is very much a NASA style structure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:58:50 No.11831068 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830657
but matt damon grew potatoes on mars with just poo and monopropellant

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 04:59:03 No.11831071 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831065
Goalpost status: moved

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:00:22 No.11831075 Report

Quoted By: >>11831082

>>11831043
>to your buttplug
Never once advocated for this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:00:46 No.11831077 Report

Quoted By: >>11831098

>>11831067
The exterior aesthetics of a colony are totally irrelevant compared to the interior aesthetics, you can make tunnels just as aesthetically pleasing as proont structures and Elon clearly has tunnels in mind since he is investing in tunneling and not 3d meme printing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:02:45 No.11831082 Report

Quoted By: >>11831102

>>11831075
Your typing style is distinct and recognisable proontfag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:05:15 No.11831090 Report

Quoted By: >>11831100

>>11831067
>You aren't wrong but noone in their right mind will want a underground city of NEETs
Not for the first wave of colonization setting shit up, once you need raw numbers NEETs will inherit the Mars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:06:14 No.11831093 Report

Quoted By: >>11831105 >>11831264

>>11831062
>>11831051
Its dangerous and time intensive, it wont happen often, especially not for the first mission oriented colonists.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:07:40 No.11831095 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831053
>zero tangible benefit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:09:44 No.11831097 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830922
if you glance over at a large mirror on the wall do you see a large reflection of a pussy? yes you do. it'll be like that only the reflection will be of the surface.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:09:52 No.11831098 Report

Quoted By: >>11831101

>>11831077
>The exterior aesthetics of a colony are totally irrelevant
no they aren't, you want it as appealing as possible for potential colonists. Flashy is necessary

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:10:56 No.11831100 Report

Quoted By: >>11831111

>>11831090
NEETs have no skills

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:11:35 No.11831101 Report

Quoted By: >>11831108

>>11831098
If you are building glass domes from the start the elon might as well forget about it, ridiculously resource intensive for minimal living space, no way to ISRU any of it without significant infrastructure. Even retarded proonting is better than fucking domes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:12:05 No.11831102 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831082
grasping at straws but believe what you want i guess?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:12:51 No.11831105 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831093
Are you crazy? First colonists will take any opportunity to suit up and go walk around, I'd be surprised if they didn't take 50mile+ rover trips in all directions to check shit out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:13:38 No.11831108 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831101
Its a SpaceX render and if you look closer you will realize that the dome isn't a hab

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:14:04 No.11831111 Report

Quoted By: >>11831112

>>11831100
You are free to presume so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:14:53 No.11831112 Report

Quoted By: >>11831114 >>11831126

>>11831111
Do you know what NEET stands for?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:16:04 No.11831114 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831112
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:19:27 No.11831126 Report

Quoted By: >>11831154

>>11831112
That doesn't mean they haven't acquired skills in the past or on their own time. Many NEETS are not so by choice you realise. Hell, teleoperating is essentially a video game so theres one thing any NEET at all could do with minimal training.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:21:24 No.11831130 Report

Quoted By: >>11831138 >>11831159 >>11831186

>>11830744

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:23:49 No.11831135 Report

Quoted By: >>11831879

>>11830723
i'd like a mix of underground with some surface dwellings

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:24:53 No.11831138 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831130
Unholy based meme, saved

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:27:05 No.11831144 Report

Quoted By: >>11831149

>mental health from no windows every 30 seconds
what happens if someone goes nuts on the trip out there? on airliners they have provisions to restrain people but even the longest flight is only 24 hours. could they restrain someone for 5 months? dope them up? will there be a proper crew onboard every starship flight able to do this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:28:40 No.11831149 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831144
>what happens if someone goes nuts on the trip out there?

Out the airlock, unfit to survive off world. Broadcast back to urf as an "accident".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:29:55 No.11831154 Report

Quoted By: >>11831157

>>11831126
>NEET cope
have fun being left behind faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:31:22 No.11831157 Report

Quoted By: >>11831168 >>11831169 >>11832248

>>11831154
I'm not actually NEET and have enough assets to buy a ticket so seethe harder my dude. I'm merely pointing out that introverts and some NEETs are totally viable colonists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:31:57 No.11831159 Report

Quoted By: >>11831166

>>11831130
Elon should be their god anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:33:42 No.11831165 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830723
I want to live in a printed habitat connected to an underground colony.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:33:46 No.11831166 Report

Quoted By: >>11831171

>>11831159
Nah he would probably cuck and resist the fashy martian takeover

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:34:21 No.11831167 Report

Quoted By:

I hope Starman is ok up there. I want to get him home.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:34:45 No.11831168 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831157
>seethe harder my dude
go back

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:35:31 No.11831169 Report

Quoted By: >>11831178

>>11831157
Kinda telling that he has no argument beyond "COPE" and wojackposting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:36:27 No.11831171 Report

Quoted By: >>11831179 >>11831180

>>11831166
he will be dead before any real political movement happens. He will be their GOD

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:39:02 No.11831178 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831169
Samefag and if you aren't in education, employed or in training you aren't going to be chosen for mars. Oh you can sit at home all day? so can more qualified people, you aren't special and you have no skills.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:39:42 No.11831179 Report

Quoted By: >>11831187 >>11831190

>>11831171
Whioe I personally think venerating Elon as God is kinda cringe, if he really pulls it off then he deserves his religion and statues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:39:57 No.11831180 Report

Quoted By: >>11831190

>>11831171
I really just want von Braun to be proven a prophet, and for the title of the top political office on Mars to be "Elon" in honor of Musk

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:41:27 No.11831185 Report

Quoted By:

>samefag
Too easy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:42:17 No.11831186 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831130
>Remember Phobos

Was kind of ridiculous how the UN fags managed to get right up close and launch off a gorilliaton nuke without being intercepted, especially given the tech level shown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:43:54 No.11831187 Report

Quoted By: >>11831191

>>11831179
Yeah if he realizes even a tenth of his goal within his lifetime (100,000 people on Mars vs 1,000,000 aspired to), Musk will be one of the most significant people in human history. As it stands he's already going to be in history books for revitalizing the space industry and making electric cars cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:45:23 No.11831190 Report

Quoted By: >>11831196 >>11831201

>>11831179
>>11831180
Yeah I think they will just be honored I swear if Von Braun doesn't get a fucking city named after him because of SJW bullshit I will rage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:45:23 No.11831191 Report

Quoted By: >>11831198 >>11831204

>>11831187
Will he honestly die on mars? Tbh I’m surprised he hasn’t bought a tourism seat to the ISS or something yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:45:51 No.11831193 Report

Quoted By: >>11831201 >>11831203 >>11831208

what kind of launch abort will the starship have?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:46:42 No.11831196 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831190
You forgot the 'e' in SJW.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:47:16 No.11831198 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831191
He won't go into space until his dream is realized. He has said this before, he is worried about dying and his company being motivated by greed instead of ideals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:47:48 No.11831201 Report

Quoted By: >>11831207

>>11831190
Same, fuck liberals. If scott manley ever tweets about “we must ignore von braun” I will fucking rage
>>11831193
Lmao NOPE! Landing will be scary as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:48:18 No.11831203 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831193
It wont

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:48:26 No.11831204 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831191
If he dies because of some problem with the capsule it will be a fucking disaster. Which is probably why he hasn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:49:20 No.11831207 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831201
>scott manley
California has that faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:49:53 No.11831208 Report

Quoted By: >>11831222 >>11832002

>>11831193
What kind of launch abort will a 747 have?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:56:35 No.11831219 Report

Quoted By: >>11831225 >>11831253

New bread when

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:57:03 No.11831222 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831208
Jump out, tuck 'n roll.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 05:57:21 No.11831225 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831219
4 pages from now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 06:15:30 No.11831245 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830785
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 06:21:20 No.11831253 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831219
fucking tourists

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 06:29:36 No.11831264 Report

Quoted By: >>11831275

>>11831093
>go to mars
>don't go outside
In that case you may as well not even be on mars and just stay on earth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 06:35:57 No.11831275 Report

Quoted By: >>11831327

>>11831264
You probably should stay anon. Weebs aren't allowed in space

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 06:35:58 No.11831276 Report

Quoted By: >>11831282

>>11829901
please provide context for the size of that payload
(it's a case of beer)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 06:41:06 No.11831282 Report

Quoted By: >>11831297

>>11831276
when do smallsat launchers admit defeat and shift their business model to spacetruckin'?
>want 10kg in leo?
>bankruptcy
>want 10kg around a specific asteroid in the belt?
>$$$

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 06:43:23 No.11831285 Report

Quoted By:

>>11829902
christ that reddit meme gave me cancer

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 06:43:57 No.11831287 Report

Quoted By: >>11831331

it almost feels like its calling me anons

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 06:47:51 No.11831297 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831282
when starship reaches less then 50$/kg for non spacex (commercial) launches

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 07:09:45 No.11831327 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831275
fuck you

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 07:10:07 No.11831329 Report

Quoted By: >>11831356

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhsZUZmJvaM
lets talk about this bad boy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 07:10:48 No.11831331 Report

Quoted By: >>11831491

>>11831287
it's a shitty red desert
an infinite, shitty red desert, I'm already in love

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 07:11:36 No.11831333 Report

Quoted By: >>11831336

>For the first time in the agency’s history, NASA has initiated a new effort to enable NASA personnel to fly on future commercial suborbital spaceflights. NASA’s Flight Opportunities program has successfully worked with emerging commercial suborbital transportation systems to fly research payloads to space for short periods of microgravity time.
>Now the Suborbital Crew (SubC) office within NASA’s Commercial Crew Program will lay the groundwork for flying NASA personnel on commercial suborbital space transportation systems. The goal of the SubC office is to perform a system qualification, or safety assessment, to enable NASA astronauts, principal investigators and other NASA personnel to take advantage of these unique capabilities. Following the qualification, NASA plans to purchase seats on commercial suborbital space transportation systems for NASA use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 07:14:55 No.11831336 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831333
Checked and fuck NASA- if they don’t play their cards right in this upcoming decade, they’re gonna fade into oblivion

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 07:19:59 No.11831343 Report

Quoted By: >>11831347 >>11831414

After playing hours of surviving mars i've come to the conclusion that a single dome should be constructed for the colony. A biodome that is a recreational park with trees and grass. Is this doable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 07:21:29 No.11831347 Report

Quoted By: >>11831349

>>11831343
no

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 07:22:15 No.11831349 Report

Quoted By: >>11831352

>>11831347
why not

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 07:23:53 No.11831352 Report

Quoted By: >>11831353

>>11831349
>all that glass vs dust and micrometeorites
>getting all that glass
>radiation
yes it is "doable", but practically? no.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 07:25:21 No.11831353 Report

Quoted By: >>11831366 >>11831410

>>11831352
seems worth it to me

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 07:26:23 No.11831356 Report

Quoted By: >>11831357

>>11831329
I still want to talk about insight though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 07:27:54 No.11831357 Report

Quoted By: >>11831382 >>11831387

>>11831356
What's the mole up to these days? Did they figure out how to make it go into the dirt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 07:31:47 No.11831366 Report

Quoted By: >>11831377

>>11831353
>prooont
>tooonel
now
>i'm gunna doooome!
who would have thought mars habs would have been such a divisive topic.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 07:38:32 No.11831377 Report

Quoted By: >>11831408

>>11831366
I just want one mars park anon..

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 07:43:24 No.11831382 Report

Quoted By: >>11831387

>>11831357
Not sure how the probe is (probably keeps getting pushed up by molepeople) but they found out that the magnetic field is stronger than they though.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CJ9Xfb49qo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 07:44:26 No.11831387 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831382
>>11831357
nevermind, they finally got it
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zns5eTeD_lY

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:01:26 No.11831408 Report

Quoted By: >>11831435

>>11831377
The spacex renders are unironically what i think the colony will look like

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:02:37 No.11831410 Report

Quoted By: >>11831425

>>11831353
You absolutely do need rad-shielded domes people can spend extended time in or they go nuts. I've been in both Biosphere 2 and the Amazon Spheres, and they're MUCH more livable than underground warrens. The tunnels and proonted buttplugs/quonset huts/trench hats can complement them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:04:48 No.11831414 Report

Quoted By: >>11831418 >>11831422

>>11831343
>A biodome that is a recreational park with trees and grass. Is this doable?
We did it in the 90s with Biosphere 2. It's an engineering challenge, but not an insurmountable one. If you can lob a few hundred Starships full of glass panels and spares, or fab them from rocks ISRU, it would be done of the first necessary big projects after a Sabatier plant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:06:48 No.11831418 Report

Quoted By: >>11831445 >>11831513

>>11831414
Biosphere was such a shit tier project, I really wish they had done it properly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:08:54 No.11831422 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831414
Damn that'd be great

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:10:25 No.11831425 Report

Quoted By: >>11831506

>>11831410
imagine all 3 memes together creating the perfect meme colony.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:10:54 No.11831427 Report

Quoted By: >>11831436 >>11831441

Domes are shit from a practicality point, however they are extremely kino.

>OH GOOOD I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA DOOOOOOOOOME

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:17:39 No.11831435 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831408
Yeah, very tesla-esque with that pretentious but cool looking futuristic-look. I’m excited for Elon to show off renders for the interior of Starship. I bet it will look so cool

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:18:17 No.11831436 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831427
So kino

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:20:04 No.11831441 Report

Quoted By: >>11831448

>>11831427
Domes are fucking fantastic, but material science will have to advance quite a bit for them to become viable on any large scale.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:21:00 No.11831444 Report

Quoted By: >>11831458

So i heard when we terraform mars it will basically be a northern Forrest. Is that true?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:21:42 No.11831445 Report

Quoted By: >>11831455 >>11831513

>>11831418
Elon should unironically build a biosphere in boca. It could house workers and astronauts as they train for mars or build starship, and be used to run a bunch of tests in a closed system of people living in a self-sufficient unit. You need to grow your own food, and only rely on resupplies every 6 months. God damn I totally forgot about Biosphere 2. It looks like a starfleet building from TNG

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:22:17 No.11831448 Report

Quoted By: >>11831450

>>11831441
mars is literally a material science driver

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:22:57 No.11831450 Report

Quoted By: >>11831453

>>11831448
Yeah, space exploration has that side effect, which I want to go NOW. I'm tired of this fucking quagmire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:23:59 No.11831453 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831450
*which is why I want to go NOW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:25:35 No.11831455 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831445
That would be fantastic

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:26:48 No.11831458 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831444
It will be whatever want to make it. Besides terraforming will never be a viable option for Mars, paraterraforming at best. In my opinion it's a tremendous waste anyway, even post terraforming, most of Mars will remain uninhabitable, there will only be a small band that is at the correct atmosperic pressure. There is simply too much height differential across the planet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:42:00 No.11831491 Report

Quoted By: >>11831512 >>11832460

>>11831331
Fucking Reds

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:49:24 No.11831506 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831425
Exactly. This whole argument was like watching a bunch of little boys arguing about what shape of lego brick was the best when you need all of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:53:01 No.11831512 Report

Quoted By: >>11831524 >>11832460

>>11831491
Seethe harder cunt, gonna keep blowing up your terraforming equipment until you fuck off.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:53:02 No.11831513 Report

Quoted By: >>11831515

>>11831445
>God damn I totally forgot about Biosphere 2. It looks like a starfleet building from TNG
It's a museum open to the public now, or was before kung flu. I'm also sure the resemblance was intentional.

>>11831418
There's an indoor cloud forest park in Singapore that's much newer and better as a park, but Biosphere 2 was what proved we could do it sealed off from the outside.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:55:17 No.11831515 Report

Quoted By: >>11831517

>>11831513
singapore airport is probably the most kino building interior ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 08:57:48 No.11831517 Report

Quoted By: >>11831522

>>11831515
That is extremely kino

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 09:03:16 No.11831522 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831517
>meanwhile in heathrow terminal 5

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 09:04:29 No.11831524 Report

Quoted By: >>11831526 >>11831547

>>11831512
Go live at the top of a volcano if you like fucking rocks so much

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 09:06:24 No.11831526 Report

Quoted By: >>11831534

>>11831524
I already do, oh look another drilling platform just blew up, how did that happen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 09:12:05 No.11831534 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831526
>t. ula sniper: evolved

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 09:20:05 No.11831547 Report

Quoted By: >>11831553

>>11831524
This is why geologists are going to space and not printfag college engineering students. Printers are the big gay, and rocks are for chads

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 09:22:35 No.11831553 Report

Quoted By: >>11831564

>>11831547
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 09:33:01 No.11831564 Report

Quoted By: >>11831567

>>11831553
actual true story. years ago i worked maintenance on a massive ranch outside kalgoorlie in wa. there were a billion ancient "mines" (holes in the ground), a couple of active mines and few companies out there doing prospecting. anyway i got to know one of the geologists and ended up spending a week with him and a core drilling team out deep in the bush bagging up core samples and laying them out in lines on the ground for every metre they had drilled so he could look at them for gold deposits or whatever. this dude was in his mid 50s, had spent most of his life in the bush doing this sort of work, drunk and talked like a sailor in port, and was genuinely one of the most interesting yet hardest cunts i've ever met.
10/10 week, would do it again. but definitely geologists will be on mars before prooonters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 09:38:17 No.11831567 Report

Quoted By: >>11831577

>>11831564
Every geologist I know either drinks a lot, or smokes weed a lot. Also they’re either very liberal or very conservative- no in between. Despite any differences they always get along. Also they are really smart, like in every subject. Chemistry, physics, everything. Such interesting people

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 09:47:29 No.11831577 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831567
it seems to be one of those really underrated specialisms that can lead to a properly interesting career where you actually travel and get to do shit, not sit in an office pushing paper. idk how popular a subject it is in unis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 09:52:45 No.11831585 Report

Quoted By: >>11831597

fuck blue origin, vaporware company and their dumbfuck followers

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 09:58:52 No.11831596 Report

Quoted By: >>11832465

I'm off innawoods for three days like I mentioned. >>11829199
Here's the Thursday SpaceX launch thread OP text:

Launch Thread: SpaceX Falcon 9 - Starlink-L9 & SmallSat Rideshare #2 (BlackSky 5/6)
_____ edition

Livestream: ?
Launch: Thursday, June 25 4:39 PM EDT / 20:39 UTC
Probability of violating weather constraints: ?
Backup launch: ?
Launch vehicle: SpaceX Falcon 9 with first stage B1051.5 (prior launches: Starlink-6, Starlink-3, RADARSAT, DM-1)
Fairings: ?
Launch pad: LC-39A, Kennedy Space Center, Florida, USA
First stage landing: On droneship 'Of Course I Still Love You'
Fairing recovery: On fairing recovery vessels 'Ms. Tree' & 'Ms. Chief' (maybe)
Payload: 58 Starlink satellites & Spaceflight Industries Blacksky 5/6
>https://www.starlink.com
>https://www.spacex.com/launches/index.html
>https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/starlink-v1-0.htm
>https://spacenews.com/blacksky-launching-two-satellites-on-june-starlink-mission/
>https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/blacksky-global.htm
>https://www.wmo-sat.info/oscar/satellites/view/795
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaceflight_Industries#BlackSky
Payload mass & destination orbit: ~15,600 kg (~260 kg / sat); 210 x 366 km @ ~53°; Starlink satellites will eventually orbit-raise to 550 km
Starlink-L9 TLE: probably this URL https://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/supplemental/starlink-10.txt
Launch viewing guide for Florida: http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html
SpaceX twitter: https://twitter.com/SpaceX
SpaceX launch statistics: This will be the 55th landed first stage, 37th re-flight of the a first stage, and 88th Falcon 9 launch. It is the 11th SpaceX launch of 2020.

Feel free to make the launch thread, someone; I won't be around to do it for once!
See you anons in three days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 09:59:22 No.11831597 Report

Quoted By: >>11831719

>>11831585
Based. Elon tweeting about juneteenth and stuff seems genuine. But when Bezos has his companies tweet out those fake ass “hurr durr we believe black lives matter” tweets it comes across as so vapid and hollow. Bezos isn’t going to do anything with blue origin other than making engines

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 10:03:47 No.11831603 Report

Quoted By: >>11831609 >>11831612 >>11831614 >>11832379

Is anyone else kinda sad that they’ll never be able to be truly from another world.

Even if my life works out and I move to Mars when I’m in my 50s, by the time the first generation of Martians are fully grown I’ll be an old man.
Does anyone else have that innate drive to go out into the void and explore?

I have a son somewhere out here on Earth. His mother and I ended on and terms and honestly I’ve never seen the little dude ever. Both my parents are dead. I have nothing holding me onto this world.

Goddamn why can’t I have been born 100 years from now!

>Mfw you’ll never buy a cheap apartment on Mars
>Mfw I’ll never see Enceladus’ geysers with my own eyes
>Mfw I’ll never watch the sunrise from Mercury
>Mfw I won’t spend my last moments laying down in the sands of the moon, staring up at the infinite void and endless night

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 10:07:26 No.11831609 Report

Quoted By: >>11831618

>>11831603
>Does anyone else have that innate drive to go out into the void and explore?
>I have a son somewhere out here on Earth. His mother and I ended on and terms and honestly I’ve never seen the little dude ever.

are you me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 10:10:51 No.11831612 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831603
iktf bro, but maybe we can at least be some one the first people off world and start building up a new planet, that's pretty exciting enough for me I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 10:11:22 No.11831614 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831603
I mean I started watching Star Trek TNG when I was in high school and it always made me so excited for what “could be” the future of humanity. But it seemed so far out of reach. But then comes some random South African guy who starts changing everything and landing rockets, and then announces a giant fucking Starship that will get us a Mars colony. Suddenly this idea that seemed so far away has now become a reality that will happen within our lifetime. If it weren’t for Elon, we’d be dependent on NASA to do a shitty mission sometime in 2070 and it would be meager at best. At least we have something to look forward to
I guess I can give you an anecdote. Long ago, people would build giant cathedrals that took 100 years to build. The generation that started it knew they would never see the finished product, but it was probably comforting that they were doing their part to build something epic. The first mars colony will do just that. Elon has given us a huge paradigm shift for what’s possible, and the ONLY sad thing will be if starship falls through and ends up being a hoax or underperforming (which I don’t see happening, he keeps delivering on his word time after time even when the odds are against him and nobody has faith)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 10:12:28 No.11831618 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831609
Probably. I’m glad I found this board because it seems like people who actually give a shit about space and aren’t “OH MAN I LOVE SCIENCE NASANASANASA” are very rare.

We’re all gonna make it brah.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 10:26:17 No.11831632 Report

Quoted By: >>11831634 >>11831635

just a little

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 10:27:19 No.11831634 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831632
fairing reuse

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 10:27:43 No.11831635 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831632
I would so not tell SpaceX if one of these washed up on my property, that shit is going straight into the shed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 10:44:07 No.11831656 Report

Quoted By: >>11831688

Is New Glenn ever going to fly? I feel like BO is doomed by the fact that Bezos is just the money man, and he probably doesn’t contribute anything to meetings or schedules

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 10:51:53 No.11831670 Report

Quoted By: >>11831677 >>11831681 >>11831687 >>11831689 >>11831694 >>11831699 >>11832098 >>11832267

What I don't get is why colonizing Mars with a lot of populated cities is something sought after or even desirable when space stations in general are a much better deal. Last I checked there is no rush to colonize Antartica, that place is still pretty much a barren wasteland and it will stay that way for good reasons, it's expensive, deadly and troublesome. Mars is even harder and has even less useful resources so, truly, why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 10:56:05 No.11831677 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831670
If Earth goes down same for Antarctic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:01:09 No.11831681 Report

Quoted By: >>11831687

>>11831670
To conquer another planet and a new frontier.

Antarctica is heavily legally protected. If it wasn’t we’d likely see more going on there. People do spend a fortune to go there for as long as they’re allowed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:06:18 No.11831687 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831670
>>11831681
>Antarctica is heavily legally protected.
This. Antarctica has plenty of useful resources but anyone trying to mine the shit out of is going to asking for more international trouble than it's worth.

Space stations are not a primary colonization strategy, they follow planetary colonization. You don't get giant rotating habitats covered in shielding, which is what you would need to ever approach being better than a planetary colony, without a strong industrialized Mars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:06:39 No.11831688 Report

Quoted By: >>11831696 >>11831697

>>11831656
i think when it happens it'll happen very quickly and all of a sudden they'll be nipping at spacex heals if not directly competing. we'll meme at it then within a couple of months it'll be "oh BO is flying again today".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:07:05 No.11831689 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831670
If you gassed all the antarctic treaties and said its a free for all land grab, set up your own sovereign states cunts, overnight there would be expeditions prepped and colonies funded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:08:33 No.11831694 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831670
as others have said it's not a place you just go to. it's been carved up and argued about by several nations. britains presence in the falklands is partially to with the oil reserves but mainly to do with their antarctic claim.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:10:06 No.11831696 Report

Quoted By: >>11831700

>>11831688
New Glenn has a planned launch cadence of like 8 flights a year and is still going to struggle to fill its manifest. Its first orbit will be likely be after or not much before Starships', an entirely more ambitious platform. I would love to see them provide real competition but it's not happening next year. It probably won't happen in ten years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:11:10 No.11831697 Report

Quoted By: >>11831724

>>11831688
Starship will kill New Glenn. At best they launch New Glenn starting 2021, at this rate starship prototypes will be going orbital by then so BO gets at best a year or two of marginal competition with Falcon 9 which will be extremely competitive. Its still a distinct possibility that starship will be entering service as or even before New Glenn does which will kill it stillborn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:13:40 No.11831699 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831670
There were dinosaurs in Antarctic too, they didn't survive extinction either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:13:44 No.11831700 Report

Quoted By: >>11831706 >>11831712

>>11831696
what interests me most about them is bezos has said new glenn will be their smallest orbital lifter. maybe they're working on something fuckhuge that possibly isn't for landing on mars life SS but but ridiculous payloads (think ship building yards) into leo.
or it's all a huge waste of money by a man who could do 100 blue origins and treat it like an evening on the piss.
i hope they both succeed desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:15:34 No.11831706 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831700
>my spelling and everything in that post
sorry bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:18:14 No.11831712 Report

Quoted By: >>11831716 >>11832443

>>11831700
New Glenn HAS to be their smallest launcher. That's not really saying much beyond acknowledging industrial reality. New Glenn is planted between F9 and FH in capability. It's not built for a world where Starship exists. If they were actually moving fast they'd have scrapped it a year ago and fastlined a fully renewable SS-scale New Armstrong. At this rate there will be a very long gap to catch up to fully reusable capability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:22:15 No.11831716 Report

Quoted By: >>11831726 >>11831729

>>11831712
how long has it been in development? because musk has been talking about bfr (now starship) for what has to be nearly a decade if not more. maybe they all thought he was talking shit and sat on their laurels and now with billions in their various rocket holes can't/won't redevelop? we know that's true of sls so maybe it's the same for new glenn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:24:31 No.11831719 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831597
Bezos encouraged us to cancel all our meetings on Juneteenth and gave free fried chicken to the fulfillment center wagies.
>celebrate black people with fried chicken and avoiding work
It's almost a /pol/ tier slur.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:32:18 No.11831724 Report

Quoted By: >>11831728

>>11831697
New Glenn won't die as long as the taxpayer remains a major purchaser of launches. NASA/DOD do not want a monopolistic launch provider, and if NG lives up to it's promises it will be the go to for very very high cost military sats and science probes for quite a while since for them launch cost is a less important consideration

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:32:55 No.11831726 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831716
to add: sls' problems run far deeper than private competition. the thing should have been scrapped in it's entirety and the parts given to museums the moment f9 started supplying cargo to the iss. the writing was on the wall for state developed launch systems the moment that happened.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:34:50 No.11831728 Report

Quoted By: >>11831889

>>11831724
where does that leave ula (other than buying their engines)? that's basically their mo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:36:38 No.11831729 Report

Quoted By: >>11831734 >>11831747 >>11832446

>>11831716
Until about a year ago BFR was purely a paper concept. Saying it was in development before then is like saying BO has been in development of O'neill cylinders for the last 20 years. SS was the blue sky project, now they're there. BO sat in the sandbox for 20 years and they're still a year away from putting out what would have been their workhorse rocket... if F9, FH, and probably SS by then didn't already exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:40:46 No.11831734 Report

Quoted By: >>11831742 >>11831752 >>11832450

>>11831729
bezos better get his shit together then. he could be doing starship at a 10x accelerated pace if he wanted to. he claims to care, but we're left looking at ula 2.0 when we want giant rotating habs by 2030.
does he have twitter? i might set up a twitter just to tell him to get his shit together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:43:21 No.11831742 Report

Quoted By: >>11831748

>>11831734
Bezos views BO as a side gig while he gives Amazon and WaPo his energy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:45:14 No.11831747 Report

Quoted By: >>11831760

>>11831729
blue origin only started the actual development of NG fairly recently. it will probably be finished around the same time as Starship

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:45:20 No.11831748 Report

Quoted By: >>11831756 >>11831758

>>11831742

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:47:30 No.11831752 Report

Quoted By: >>11831754

>>11831734
You can email him directly. It's literally jeff@amazon.com or something like that. Intended for complaints about stuff you've bought on amazon but who knows, perhaps your message will get through. I emailed him about a camo backpack I bought on amazon that broke

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:48:48 No.11831754 Report

Quoted By: >>11831768 >>11831782

>>11831752
did he (or corporate) reply?
>give me a couple of hours to pen something

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:49:19 No.11831756 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831748
Did he fly there with his private jet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:50:25 No.11831758 Report

Quoted By: >>11832114 >>11832198

>>11831748
What's a lizzo? Is it that conspiracy theory about lizards or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:51:46 No.11831760 Report

Quoted By: >>11831777 >>11831888

>>11831747
Their midweight partially reusable launcher will probably be capable of entering orbit +- a year of SpaceX reaching the same capability with a superheavy fully reusable launcher while still launching both the less capable but much higher cadence F9 and the more capable FH at the same time. Then we move into continued development to bring the rockets from orbital prototypes to fully functioning infrastructure where SpaceX will likely pull ahead as their development pace has been faster the entire time. If you don't see the problem with BO's strategic position, you're just not looking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:55:03 No.11831768 Report

Quoted By: >>11831783

>>11831754
Not that anon, but from what i hear he usually just forwards the e-mail asking for the employee in charge to fix the issue

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 11:59:03 No.11831777 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831760
>"passionate about space"
>becomes worlds richest man with disposable wealth unknown to all but the largest nation states
>blue origin
fucking embarrassing tbqhwy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:00:30 No.11831782 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831754
I got a refund so someone was monitoring it. Can't remember if I got a reply

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:00:51 No.11831783 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831768
alright let me get sufficiently drunkangry to tell that cunt whats what.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:03:58 No.11831789 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830904
This was a nice shot, those sparkly panels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:17:37 No.11831817 Report

Quoted By: >>11831822 >>11831824 >>11831825 >>11832114 >>11832119

MOTHERFUCKERS YOU TOLD ME SPACE FURRIES WEREN'T REAL. WTF /SFG/ I'M FUCKING SCARED.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDPjn46_5GEae2BAuMh6nAQ/videos

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:19:56 No.11831822 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831817
No, we warned you about Space Wolves, man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:20:24 No.11831824 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831817
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDPjn46_5GEae2BAuMh6nAQ/videos

We must not allow it off planet. Bogdanoff, make the call.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:21:50 No.11831825 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831817
But that's great. Solves the protein scarcity problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:37:40 No.11831870 Report

Quoted By: >>11831939

>>11829456
>Most engineers and astronauts are white males
>The first person on Mars is a black female not because of her merits but her identity
>Shits on meritocracy and discourages many people from joining NASA because they'd pay more attention to their identity than rewarding them for their labor.
That would really send a bad message, but let's see how things go. In my opinion, setting foot on Mars is a very difficult and dangerous task so they would bring only the most capable astronauts to ensure success.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:43:17 No.11831879 Report

Quoted By:

>>11830723
>>11831135
This

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:46:14 No.11831885 Report

Quoted By: >>11831955

Will BO ever bother making a capsule for New Glenn, or will they just move on to a Starship competitor for manned flights?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:46:56 No.11831888 Report

Quoted By: >>11831920

>>11831760
>FH more capable
wut?
since when are 30 tons to LEO more capable than 45 tons to LEO?
i agree on Starship but that will be decided once we know how many refueling trips are needed for a certain payload to a given destination.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 12:46:57 No.11831889 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831728
my money is on boeing buy out if vulcan can't compete

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 13:00:02 No.11831920 Report

Quoted By: >>11832032

>>11831888
If you want to put more than ~32t to Leo it will be cheaper to launch on FH in its partially or fully expendable configuration than even a reusable New Glenn.
Starship is a far more capable ship, full stop, with no refueling factored in whatsoever. That only provides excess capability that no one else is even approaching.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 13:08:07 No.11831939 Report

Quoted By: >>11831946 >>11832191

>>11831870
I guarantee you the first astronauts to Mars will be men just to avoid floating with six months of used tampons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 13:11:41 No.11831946 Report

Quoted By: >>11832132

>>11831939
tampon compost, anon
imagine the smell

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 13:14:03 No.11831955 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831885
if ss flies then capsules are old news.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 13:29:14 No.11831992 Report

Quoted By: >>11832132

>>11829235

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 13:31:54 No.11832002 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831208
Gliding to safety, brakes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 13:42:26 No.11832032 Report

Quoted By: >>11832041 >>11832058 >>11832213

>>11831920
right for LEO Starship would mbe the best.
however a fully expanded FH is certainly not cheaper than a reusable NG.
we don't know enough about it to be absolutely certain though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 13:44:49 No.11832041 Report

Quoted By: >>11832048

>>11832032
hard to really price NG, given that BO has absolutely no intentions of ever building it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 13:48:15 No.11832048 Report

Quoted By:

>>11832041
they already started building it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 13:52:35 No.11832058 Report

Quoted By:

>>11832032
Fully expendable FH is 150m for 64t leo capacity, not that anyone would ever fully utilize it. NG isn't gonna beat that.

It was also an absolutely retarded idea to make a partially reusable rocket but use notoriously expensive hydrolox as the expended stage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 14:05:54 No.11832098 Report

Quoted By: >>11832117

>>11831670
All the reasons we haven't started pumping resources from Antarctica are political.
That being said, there should be more space stations. There definitely won't be any O'Neill cylinders, but there will quite likely be plenty of Von Braun stations if we actually succeed in industrializing Mars.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 14:10:01 No.11832114 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831758
Morbidly obese black woman music artist. >>11831817
OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK KEEP THAT AUTISTIC SHIT AWAY

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 14:10:35 No.11832117 Report

Quoted By: >>11832132

>>11832098
>There definitely won't be any O'Neill cylinders
why do you say that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 14:11:37 No.11832119 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831817
>building a lego iss
>2:44:24
abort

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 14:15:31 No.11832132 Report

Quoted By: >>11832399

>>11831946
Smells like pennies.
>>11831992
Shouldn't they be siamese twins?
>>11832117
That stuff is gonna take practically forever to build in our current scale. Maybe we can actually start carving one out of Phobos, but it certainly won't be a pretty colony. Planetary colonization will have been mastered before we start building large ass biospheres.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 14:35:51 No.11832191 Report

Quoted By: >>11832259

>>11831939
The most recent Russian Mars 500 simulation was male only due to issues with previous runs.
Not surprising really. Being locked up like that for 500 days with sexy Russian science lasses would not be easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 14:38:33 No.11832198 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831758
Quite sure he misplelt lezzo's

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 14:50:41 No.11832213 Report

Quoted By:

>>11832032
It's very likely that FH will retire before NG flies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 14:57:36 No.11832229 Report

Quoted By:

>work hard all your life to become an astronaut
>finally make it into NASA
>get assigned a flight
>it's suborbital on virgin galactic
people will quit over this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 15:09:40 No.11832248 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831157
Unskilled unmotivated people aren’t good colonists. NEETs would not exist if they had balls

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 15:14:12 No.11832259 Report

Quoted By: >>11832280 >>11832378

>>11832191
>Being locked up like that for 500 days with sexy Russian science lasses would not be easy.
hnnng

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 15:14:43 No.11832264 Report

Quoted By: >>11832271

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 15:17:04 No.11832267 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831670
>What I don't get is why colonizing Mars with a lot of populated cities is something sought after or even desirable

It’s cool

> when space stations in general are a much better deal.

That’s boring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 15:18:46 No.11832271 Report

Quoted By:

>>11832264
launchcat.gif

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 15:21:26 No.11832280 Report

Quoted By: >>11832285

>>11832259
Colonists should be able to bring their wives

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 15:23:14 No.11832283 Report

Quoted By: >>11832524

>>11829927
No, it's only in the quadrillion range. Unless you're talking about uploaded minds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 15:23:32 No.11832285 Report

Quoted By: >>11832293

>>11832280
>couples
>going to mars
>when there's all the russian jb scientists on surface
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 15:27:54 No.11832293 Report

Quoted By: >>11832306 >>11832331

>>11832285
Russia is never going to Mars

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 15:30:58 No.11832306 Report

Quoted By:

>>11832293
they were sex trafficked on a boat then given asylum

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 15:42:07 No.11832331 Report

Quoted By:

>>11832293
I can definitely see some citizen russians going to Mars in later stages of colonisation, making moonshine, and becoming the first people to die from methanol poisoning on another planet.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 15:42:52 No.11832335 Report

Quoted By: >>11832348 >>11832350 >>11832445

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/24/3d-rocket-printer-relativity-signs-deal-with-iridium-and-plans-to-build-a-california-launchpad.html
Relativity signed a deal with Iridium for six satellites. The article gives a good summary of their progress too. Are they legit, and why is Jared Leto funding them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 15:47:48 No.11832348 Report

Quoted By:

>>11832335
>3D rocket printer Relativity signs deal with Iridium and plans to build a California launchpad
>no one will be employed driving by 2020 it'll all be automated
into the popsci trash it goes

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 15:48:50 No.11832350 Report

Quoted By: >>11832352

>>11832335
>Jared Leto
Because it's a fucking joke lol
nice gif though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 15:49:30 No.11832352 Report

Quoted By:

>>11832350
>blurring out the printer head
cowards

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:03:00 No.11832378 Report

Quoted By:

>>11832259

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:03:05 No.11832379 Report

Quoted By:

>>11831603
On mars you would really be from another world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:10:52 No.11832399 Report

Quoted By: >>11832428

>>11832132
>Planetary colonization will have been mastered before we start building large ass biospheres.
I wouldn't be so sure about that.
We'll see I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:21:40 No.11832428 Report

Quoted By:

>>11832399
>Resources share a gravity well
>Shed waste heat without relying entirely on radiators
It's so much easier to reach any considerable scale planetside than in stations.
Besides, the industry to build that stuff starts with embedded colonies. No one is going to have the industry to launch cities into orbit without first having colonies the size of megacities pumping out rockets and processed materials.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:30:11 No.11832443 Report

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>>11831712
>If they were actually moving fast they'd have scrapped it a year ago and fastlined a fully renewable SS-scale New Armstrong
Yes, exactly how SpaceX cancelled all the Falcon variants smaller than Falcon 9.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:31:51 No.11832445 Report

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>>11832335
expendable I assume. Are they just making the 2nd stage? picture in the background has 1st stage as well. anyways this is going to fail and fail hard, you can tell because they say things like "this technology is going to be among the most disruptive in our lifetime in this industry"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:32:00 No.11832446 Report

Quoted By: >>11832464

>>11831729
>Until about a year ago BFR was purely a paper concept. Saying it was in development before then is like saying BO has been in development of O'neill cylinders for the last 20 years.
SpaceX had the engine by last year, though. Of course it's been improved since then in myriad ways, but regardless they had Raptor. The rest of the problem is basically just building a rocket scaled for X number of Raptors on either stage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:33:48 No.11832450 Report

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>>11831734
>bezos better get his shit together then. he could be doing starship at a 10x accelerated pace
No, he literally could not. I don't think SpaceX could go any faster even if you gave them unlimited money at this point, they are literally building prototypes faster than they can bolt them to test stands and blow them up.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:37:37 No.11832460 Report

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>>11831491
>>11831512

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:39:10 No.11832464 Report

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>>11832446
Raptor is about a year old if you discount subscale models and unassembled parts testing. If you want to consider SS development to start before flight ready Raptors were available, then it's been in development for 7 years, while New Glenn by the same definition has been in development for 9 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:39:16 No.11832465 Report

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>>11831596
nobody is going to do this because Starlink launches are boring now

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:40:06 No.11832468 Report

Quoted By: >>11832481 >>11832482

>https://youtu.be/OQpoj62KUnQ
SN5 being put on the test structure and you faggots are silent. Shameful

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:42:21 No.11832472 Report

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>>11832464
I discounted subscale models because if I did include them some smartass anon would come by and say "actually, Raptor at its full size has only existed for about a year, before then it was all just subscale prototype engines". Raptor, as of a year ago, was at the point it could be bolted to a vehicle and flown, which is the important thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:45:18 No.11832481 Report

Quoted By: >>11832487 >>11832489 >>11832513

>>11832468
Why is the guy talking such a faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:45:50 No.11832482 Report

Quoted By: >>11832494

>>11832468
I'm debating starting the next thread a bit early to clear the air, what do you think?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:46:53 No.11832487 Report

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>>11832481
He doesn't lurk enough to know enough about rocketry to commentate about it. Also he sounds like a faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:47:43 No.11832489 Report

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>>11832481
Because most space YouTubers are basedfucks, bocachicagal is really the only one that matters anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:48:45 No.11832494 Report

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>>11832482
Its page 9 go for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:51:53 No.11832509 Report

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>>11829262
I have to say, this has to be the weirdest shit I read on the internets.
That and John Titor, back in the days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:53:02 No.11832513 Report

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>>11832481
I can't stand them. Heres a better stream
>https://youtu.be/5QbM7Vsz3kg

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:54:34 No.11832517 Report

Quoted By: >>11832528

I don't understand.
Why test SN5 and 6 at all if they're not made of the new steel aloy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:54:52 No.11832519 Report

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NEW THREAD
>>11832516
>>11832516
>>11832516
>>11832516
>>11832516
>>11832516

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:56:25 No.11832524 Report

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>>11832283
true, with asteroids it is only quadrillions. but if you factor all minor planets (which includes comets) it is quintillions

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 16:57:07 No.11832528 Report

Quoted By: >>11832917

>>11832517
Old materials, but updated structures, anon. If you know the new materials give you a +10% strength margin and the old materials with the new design gives you a 5% increase over old design with old materials, then you can be pretty confident in your new design with new materials getting you 15% more strength margin overall. Also there's a shitload more to these prototypes than just the actual tanks, there's valves and plumbing and considerations to stop fluid hammering and so forth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jun 2020 18:39:23 No.11832917 Report

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>>11832528
"oh, noes, what we thought would definitely work didn't."
If that doesn't tell you how desperate SpeceX is about this, nothing will.
We were supposed to have multiple flip landings by now.

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