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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 03:16:38 2020 No.11795731 View Reply Original Report

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Have humans ever seen anything in the universe that's neither a wave nor particle?

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 03:17:33 No.11795732 Report

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>>11795731
Wave of what?
:^)

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 03:24:56 No.11795747 Report

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>>11795731
Nothing that exists is really a wave or particle, those are just concepts we made up to model things. What ever things really are they are some kind of intermediate between those ideas.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 03:25:09 No.11795749 Report

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>>11795732
I've asked this on /sci/ and only ever been told "energy, duh".

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 07:29:36 No.11796266 Report

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>>11795731
plasma

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 07:45:59 No.11796319 Report

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>>11796266
That's just particles with weird behavior

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 07:47:01 No.11796323 Report

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>>11795731
Love

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 07:53:36 No.11796343 Report

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>>11796323
love is god-tier
meaning it does not exist

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 09:22:44 No.11796536 Report

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>>11795731
No, that's why they're called "dark energy" and "dark matter".

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 09:37:49 No.11796572 Report

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>>11795731
Since quantum mechanics tight us that things are by definition neither waves nor particles, the answer is yes. Everything.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 09:39:01 No.11796579 Report

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>>11795732
Waves don't need media have you still not understood that simple fact you absolute retard?

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 09:42:28 No.11796587 Report

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>>11796579
>implying space is not a medium

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 09:46:13 No.11796598 Report

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>>11795731
define "see". Do you mean the meager representation that your brain gives certain wavelengths of the electromagnetic spectrum?
Or do you mean more along the lines of "measured", where still, we run into very many issues? every single "particle" acts as a probability wave, and every probability wave has the properties of a particle when "measured", so what is it that you mean?

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 10:14:11 No.11796672 Report

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>>11796587
That's right. Space is not a medium.
It's a transmission medium, yes, in the sense that electromagnetic waves can travel through it, but it's not a medium in the physics sense. Only substances can be media.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 11:39:29 No.11796833 Report

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>>11796579
>You can have waves without anything waving.
Is light also propagated by angels emitted by God? It just does bro! Nice religion.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 11:43:31 No.11796841 Report

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>>11796672
Is CNN a medium?

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 11:48:38 No.11796849 Report

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>>11795731
testicle

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 11:50:05 No.11796852 Report

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>>11796841
It's neither rare nor well-done, so yes

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 14:22:28 No.11797262 Report

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Have humans ever Been anything in the universe that's neither a wave nor particle?
>ftfy

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 14:24:07 No.11797271 Report

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>>11795732
Phlogiston of course, it's like you've never even heard of the luminiferous aether.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 14:25:41 No.11797278 Report

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>>11797271
I was clamped. ;^(

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 15:28:56 No.11797423 Report

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>>11795731
Yes, everything. All matter. There is no matter that's a wave. And there's no matter that's a particle.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 15:36:36 No.11797438 Report

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>>11796672
>Space is not a medium, it's an empty vacuum hurr durr

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 18:33:02 No.11798019 Report

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Quadromatic spacetime particle 5161

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 22:28:40 No.11798806 Report

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>>11796833
>>You can have waves without anything waving.
No, I said a medium isn't necessary for waves to exist. You seem too retarded to even understand that simple sentence.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 22:32:35 No.11798820 Report

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>>11798806
So it's like little angels? Sent by God to act afar? Look, a photon! lmao, literally what? A fucking photon? A what?

"How does it..."
"It just does."

Face it. You've abandoned hard materialism. Quantum physics basically says "it does because it does, we don't care about explaining anything because we can't."

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 22:56:42 No.11798920 Report

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>>11795747
>those are just concepts we made up
This is the entirety of experience.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 23:13:21 No.11798974 Report

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>>11798820
>So it's like little angels?
No.
>Sent by God to act afar?
No.
>literally what?
The fundamental excitation mode of the electromagnetic field.
>A fucking photon?
Yes.
>"How does it..."
>"It just does."
How does it what?
>"it does because it does, we don't care about explaining anything because we can't."
Wrong.

You're projecting hard, schizo.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jun 2020 23:15:15 No.11798981 Report

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>>11795731
fields, but you can describe theme as standing waves, or in reverse waves as moving fields.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jun 2020 15:13:28 No.11801123 Report

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>>11795731
qualia

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jun 2020 15:19:56 No.11801138 Report

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>>11801123
qualia is a pattern of neuroactivity

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jun 2020 15:23:28 No.11801148 Report

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>>11801138
information is neither a wave nor a particle, but it does use the arrangement of such to store itself. hypothetically information doesn't have to be stored in waves or particles, indeed it can be used to simulate said particles, ergo it is separate from such things.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jun 2020 15:28:33 No.11801163 Report

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>>11795731
Yeah, everything we know are neither wave or particle. They act like particles but behave like waves.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jun 2020 15:30:51 No.11801169 Report

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>>11796579
>>11798806
The media in space would be the field. Radio waves going to Voyager are waves propagated in the electromagnetic field, otherwise what's waving?

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jun 2020 15:35:00 No.11801182 Report

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>>11796598
>being this pedantic
Holy fuck, that post gave me autism.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jun 2020 15:37:57 No.11801188 Report

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>>11795731
I find this relevant, but I think this guy's onto something.
There are no waves, just particles. Things are just lining up in and out of phase every now and then, usually in geometric patterns.
https://youtu.be/ps3GK_XXs4c

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jun 2020 20:35:44 No.11802093 Report

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>>11801188
The current most-accepted theory is that there are neither particles nor waves but fields, and that every infinitesimal point in space essentially has a real number corresponding to a field. When these numbers are high enough, they create what we consider to be particles. But there aren't any actual particles there; that's just an emergent effect we observe.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jun 2020 20:44:46 No.11802136 Report

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I have seen it all. I've seen all of it.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jun 2020 20:54:42 No.11802173 Report

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>>11796598
You are stupid.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jun 2020 22:28:09 No.11802584 Report

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>>11802136
Is it good?

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jun 2020 22:29:01 No.11802592 Report

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>>11802584
It's great.

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Anonymous Mon 15 Jun 2020 22:33:49 No.11802609 Report

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>>11802592
>>11802136
Oh great sage, I beseech you, tell me. Tell me, what have you seen, What you have seen with your SPECIAL eyes

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