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/sfg/ Space Flight General - Nostalgia edition

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 06:18:23 2020 No.11785149 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11785171 >>11786960 >>11787153

old bread >>11782245

Rocket launch schedule: https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/

News: Wind remains the eternal nemesis to space flight as a whole

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:19:36 No.11785154 Report

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First for a wagon train to the stars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:21:38 No.11785159 Report

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>a literal breeze

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:21:46 No.11785160 Report

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kiwi rocket stream with NRO spoopsat onboard https://youtu.be/-zzu7hI0ESM

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:25:04 No.11785165 Report

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ITS GONNA GET DELAYED AGAIN I FEEL IT I FEEL IT IN MY BONESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:27:20 No.11785169 Report

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>>11785160
WINDSSSS

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:28:02 No.11785170 Report

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My 4th launch livestream ever, 2 out of 3 were scrubbed so far

Does scrubbing really happen often?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:28:27 No.11785171 Report

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>>11785149
What do you guys think of pic related?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:30:01 No.11785172 Report

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>>11785171
I only like ULA and Vulcan because of Tory Bruno. Hope they do research in more expendable rockets soon (it’ll still be 20 years though)
Also fuck Boeing. Hope they go under and Lockheed Martin takes full control

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:31:00 No.11785175 Report

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>>11785170
Depends, this is only like a 50ft rocket so weather gets in the way often. DM2 was very important and if something went wrong they'd have to be rescued at sea so that would be tough in a storm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:31:10 No.11785176 Report

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>>11785172
Reusable not expendable

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:31:15 No.11785178 Report

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>>11785170
Theres like 30-40% scrub rate. So its normal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:31:23 No.11785179 Report

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two minutes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:32:17 No.11785181 Report

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>>11785172
>I only like ULA and Vulcan because of Tory Bruno.
Same, especially the fact that he likes Venus (which IMO should be colonized)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:32:27 No.11785182 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zzu7hI0ESM&feature=emb_title
T-50

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:32:32 No.11785183 Report

Quoted By: >>11785187

HOLD HOLD HOLD

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:32:50 No.11785184 Report

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HAHAHAHA HOLD HOLD HOLD

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:32:54 No.11785185 Report

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A FUCKING BREEZE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:32:59 No.11785186 Report

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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:33:19 No.11785187 Report

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>>11785183
YEP SCRUBBED

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:33:23 No.11785188 Report

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AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:33:31 No.11785189 Report

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God dammit!
Canceled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:33:32 No.11785190 Report

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A
FUCKING
BREEZE
OH NO NO NO NO
AHAHAHAAHHAHAHHAAHHAHHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAAHHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:33:39 No.11785191 Report

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OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH GODDD IM GONNA HOOOOOOOOOOLD

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:33:44 No.11785192 Report

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Is that...... A GUST OF WIND!?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:33:54 No.11785193 Report

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Bros, i’m gonna... I’m gonna...
HOOOOOOOOLD

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:34:19 No.11785195 Report

Quoted By: >>11786164

>cucked by a stiff breeze

this planet is gay,you don't even have to pay any attention to this shit on mars

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:34:21 No.11785196 Report

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>>11785185
Virgin Electron vs CHAD BREEZE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:34:36 No.11785197 Report

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I'M FUCKING HOOOOOOOOOOLDING

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:34:49 No.11785199 Report

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reminder that a gust of wind doomed challenger....

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:35:34 No.11785201 Report

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Press S to spit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:36:33 No.11785202 Report

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How the fuck are our rockets gonna handle fucking MARS when we cant get over some fucking WIND are you FUCKING kidding me.
Just leave space launch up to the russians for fucks sake

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:38:41 No.11785208 Report

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>>11785201
S

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:40:14 No.11785210 Report

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>Explanation: The Cat's Eye Nebula (NGC 6543) is one of the best known planetary nebulae in the sky. Its haunting symmetries are seen in the very central region of this stunning false-color picture, processed to reveal the enormous but extremely faint halo of gaseous material, over three light-years across, which surrounds the brighter, familiar planetary nebula. Made with data from the Nordic Optical Telescope in the Canary Islands, the composite picture shows extended emission from the nebula. Planetary nebulae have long been appreciated as a final phase in the life of a Sun-like star. Only much more recently however, have some planetaries been found to have halos like this one, likely formed of material shrugged off during earlier active episodes in the star's evolution. While the planetary nebula phase is thought to last for around 10,000 years, astronomers estimate the age of the outer filamentary portions of this halo to be 50,000 to 90,000 years

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:41:44 No.11785211 Report

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>>11785202
That rocket that just scrubbed is smaller than starhopper. Falcon 9 could have launched during DM2 but NASA is a cautious fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:41:53 No.11785212 Report

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>don't stop me now
>STOPPED
KEK

What a shitshow

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:44:01 No.11785216 Report

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:47:01 No.11785221 Report

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>>11785211
>5'9
>average US male
OH NON ON O NON ON NO NO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:51:16 No.11785225 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZtSpm4hKDs

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:56:38 No.11785235 Report

Quoted By: >>11785241 >>11785257 >>11785396

>>11785211
It kills me that it will have been almost sixty fucking years until we got a larger, taller, and more powerful than the Saturn V. That machine was a marvel ahead of her time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 06:59:37 No.11785241 Report

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>>11785235
Imagine spending 60 years between MSDOS and Windows10. NASA doubles even the most reasonable conservative estimate for a timeline.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:01:21 No.11785243 Report

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>>11785225
DELETE THIS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:06:26 No.11785250 Report

Quoted By: >>11786442 >>11786456

I actually want to see gateway because it is the only way we will see multiple countries making moon bases.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:09:28 No.11785257 Report

Quoted By: >>11785263 >>11785271 >>11785274

>>11785235
I'm not a fan of all the animefication of everything, but this is really just not a great job at all. You'd guess that it would be an easy gig to make a dress that resembles the Saturn V and the 60-70s a lot and they came up with this fantasy fairy thing that doesn't even look American.

If it wasn't for the USA and decals you couldn't even tell at all.
I guess you could do the wide stuff if it looked like flames, I mean F1 launch flames but I guess I'm just overthinking it and this is just a bad draft.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:10:18 No.11785258 Report

Quoted By: >>11786736

>>11785171
i'm fine with the concept but i hate the livery

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:12:03 No.11785263 Report

Quoted By: >>11785268 >>11788109

>>11785257
>I'm not a fan of all the animefication of everything
same, shit should be banned.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:13:28 No.11785268 Report

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>>11785263
"Do you want the anime on, or off?"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:15:28 No.11785271 Report

Quoted By: >>11785295 >>11785303 >>11785396 >>11785462

>>11785257
>doesn't even look American
because she's German

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:17:52 No.11785274 Report

Quoted By: >>11785283 >>11785396

>>11785257
Not a fan either, but I will say... this website was built on anime so it’s kind of inescapable. And the japanese governments actually release official artwork and toys of anime-fied rockets and missions they launch
Imho it’s gay as fuck but Id be more accepting of it if the artwork actually made more sense and LOOKED like the thing it was trying to represent

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:21:43 No.11785283 Report

Quoted By: >>11785291

>>11785274
>but I will say... this website was built on anime
kind of, it has never been a pure anime website though. This is /sci/ not /a/ or /c/ so the amount of anime should be limited to reaction images.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:25:52 No.11785291 Report

Quoted By: >>11785300

>>11785283
I’m against it but i’m also against banning it. When you start to go down that road you begin to turn into a shitty subr*ddit. It’s not necessarily off-topic, it’s just gay and I ignore it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:27:04 No.11785295 Report

Quoted By: >>11785322 >>11785350

>>11785271
Doesn't look German either, it's clearly Asian.
And now that you nitpicked it, that approximately .2% of the guys at NASA were German scientists, VonBraun is the most American looking German in human History. I'm German, so I should know.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:28:30 No.11785296 Report

Quoted By: >>11785396 >>11785988

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:30:59 No.11785300 Report

Quoted By: >>11785306

>>11785291
I would agree but it is very similar to a raid. For that reason I think it should be banned.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:33:04 No.11785303 Report

Quoted By: >>11785308 >>11785396

>>11785271
Doesn't make it any better,
See?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:34:58 No.11785306 Report

Quoted By: >>11785319

>>11785300
Sounds to me like you'd be more home at reddit or somewhere else that isn't an imageboard if you're going to be so offended by images

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:35:15 No.11785308 Report

Quoted By: >>11785312 >>11785396

>>11785303
looks much better, need to get rid of the body and clothing though

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:36:39 No.11785312 Report

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>>11785308

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:39:26 No.11785319 Report

Quoted By: >>11785321

>>11785306
Sounds to me like you are raiding this board with anime to make some sort of retarded statement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:40:34 No.11785321 Report

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>>11785319
No i’m just gay and I want you to respect me

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:41:01 No.11785322 Report

Quoted By: >>11785396

>>11785295
she looks Anime-German
don't think about it too much, they didn't either

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:42:37 No.11785325 Report

Quoted By: >>11785327 >>11785441

And it would be horrifying it this anime chick would suddenly ignite and separate on her ascent, exploding off limbs and torso on the way until only the brain remains. I mean that would be gore as fuck. It's just a terrible concept.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:45:13 No.11785327 Report

Quoted By: >>11785348 >>11785396 >>11785717

>>11785325
of course, thats why payload waifus are superior!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:57:43 No.11785348 Report

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>>11785327
*Burns up on re-entry*

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 07:58:05 No.11785350 Report

Quoted By: >>11785405

>>11785295
>clearly asian
first thought that came too mind was a modernized medieval dress

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 08:01:14 No.11785355 Report

Quoted By: >>11785358 >>11785359

>Off topic retard discussion about anime

Stop

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 08:03:47 No.11785358 Report

Quoted By: >>11785360 >>11785371 >>11785385

>>11785355
>The one late night anon who actually wants to talk about spaceflight
I wonder what the interior of Starship will look like. I wonder if Elon will end up selling them individually, with customizable interiors. Are we putting him on a huge pedestal, are our expectations too high?
Also who is going to be the first competitor to Starship?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 08:03:51 No.11785359 Report

Quoted By: >>11786617

>>11785355
This happens every time the /a/ fags start spamming anime. It derails us every time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 08:04:34 No.11785360 Report

Quoted By: >>11785362 >>11785371

>>11785358
SLS

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 08:05:10 No.11785362 Report

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>>11785360

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 08:08:22 No.11785371 Report

Quoted By: >>11785373 >>11785390 >>11785434 >>11785992

>>11785360
>>11785358
AHEM

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 08:10:01 No.11785373 Report

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>>11785371
Fucking gay ass poser aerospace company... although having an official coat of arms is big dick energy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 08:21:56 No.11785385 Report

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>>11785358
>I wonder what the interior of Starship will look like

Probably similar to Skylab

> Are we putting him on a huge pedestal, are our expectations too high?

He is a god.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 08:25:17 No.11785390 Report

Quoted By: >>11785635 >>11787872

>>11785371
Not really, New Glenn is just a better Falcon Heavy and God knows how much we'll have to wait for New Armstrong.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 08:28:30 No.11785396 Report

Quoted By: >>11785402 >>11787105

>>11785235
>>11785271
>>11785274
>>11785296
>>11785308
>>11785303
>>11785322
>>11785327
Ok I don't wanna be that snarky asshole who just complains, so I tried putting my money were my mouth is and made my own sketch. The particles and swirls are liquid oxy and dry ice chunks I don't know jack shit about fashion, but this is supposed to be 60s. That being said, I think the hair would be more 40s and 50s.
I hate the boots, but you gotta have fins, I was told.
Now I could make it nicer but I
>A: Couldn't be bothered
and
>B: Don't want some sick fucks to jack off to my shit because if there was a place for people with sick fetishes, it would be probably here and you couldn't stray further from the bright side if you tried god have mercy on us.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 08:32:32 No.11785402 Report

Quoted By: >>11785429

>>11785396
Good shit anon. I will never understand this but I respect the work and attention to detail nonetheless

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 08:34:50 No.11785405 Report

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>>11785350
Yea ok, I first said fantasy fairy, that's kind of the same direction. Still it's 100% not mid 20th century colonies fashion. I guess you could make that look like an F1 engine...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 08:35:48 No.11785408 Report

Quoted By: >>11785414 >>11785429

Did someone say manned mission to Saturn?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 08:37:24 No.11785414 Report

Quoted By: >>11785427

>>11785408
>you will never shitpost from saturn

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 08:42:46 No.11785427 Report

Quoted By: >>11785563

>>11785414
You might be able to shitpost from LEO, the moon, or Mars

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 08:44:15 No.11785429 Report

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>>11785402
Thanks I guess, I shouldn't get involved so much. But it's the same shit with guns and warships over at /k/ and they aren't even trying to keep in somewhat on topic.

>>11785408
What did I hear you say manned mission through Saturn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 08:46:32 No.11785434 Report

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>>11785371
Blue Origin is oldspace.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 08:50:52 No.11785441 Report

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>>11785325

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 09:04:52 No.11785462 Report

Quoted By: >>11787105

>>11785271
>because she's German
Oh yeah and I couldn't resist making it German.
That's it, I swear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 09:09:48 No.11785469 Report

Quoted By: >>11785475 >>11785476 >>11785500 >>11785503

>11785441
>11785396
>11785362
>11785327
>11785303
>11785462
>11785268
Stop spamming anime and shitty drawings, faggot. God damn, just go to /a/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 09:11:37 No.11785475 Report

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>>11785469
>not enjoying original content
It's their way of enjoying spaceflight, no wonder the launch got scrubbed tonight with all that wind blowing out your ass right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 09:11:56 No.11785476 Report

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>>11785469
how could you fuck this up, anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 09:13:38 No.11785477 Report

Quoted By: >>11785482

I’m going to get a spoonful of peanut butter and start a new spaceflight meme/rocket folder

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 09:17:33 No.11785480 Report

Quoted By: >>11785483 >>11785486 >>11785500

>11785475
You have autism, your drawings are cringe, and you should feel bad about shitting up this thread but you have zero self awareness.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 09:17:50 No.11785482 Report

Quoted By: >>11785490 >>11785586 >>11786182 >>11786188

>>11785477
Starting with potential folder icon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 09:18:36 No.11785483 Report

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>>11785480
Have your (You) and fuck off

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 09:20:01 No.11785486 Report

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>>11785480
Eat pantsu you fucking gaijin!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 09:22:37 No.11785490 Report

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>>11785482
Done. Also I’ve killed more Kerbals than I’m willing to admit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 09:34:00 No.11785500 Report

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>>11785469
>>11785480
First off, you're talking to a different person.
Further, I mentioned it was a draft and I even gave two reasons for why it's only a draft, or prove of concept (apart from being a quote on quote "draft") that has no obligations to please your aesthetic perception... You need to chill way out and finally mate, I don't even think the art style is anime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 09:38:50 No.11785503 Report

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>>11785469
agreed

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 09:39:50 No.11785508 Report

Quoted By: >>11785620 >>11787273

death to korolev

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 09:54:11 No.11785526 Report

Quoted By: >>11785635

Just a reminder that the first SLS launch with Orion (Artemis I) was planned for 2017. Got slipped to 2018. Got slipped to 2019. Got slipped to late 2021. And will probably get slipped to 2022 mark my words

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 10:31:10 No.11785563 Report

Quoted By: >>11785574

>>11785427
Eh, you might be able to shitpost from saturn. Once you have a few hundred thousand people on mars, elon plans to start the colonization of ceres, and probably the exploration of the outer solar system soon after.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 10:34:11 No.11785574 Report

Quoted By: >>11785577

>>11785563
Yeah but that’s probably beyond his lifespan

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 10:35:10 No.11785577 Report

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>>11785574
Depends on how old he is. If he is below 25, maybe not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 10:36:19 No.11785583 Report

Quoted By: >>11786797

Could /sfg/ design and send a small satellite on an electron rocket?
https://www.rocketlabusa.com/book-my-launch/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 10:38:09 No.11785586 Report

Quoted By: >>11785616

>>11785482
>KSP2 never

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 10:42:32 No.11785596 Report

Quoted By: >>11785606 >>11785621 >>11785695 >>11785701 >>11785948

What's your opinion on the Soviet moon rocket N-1?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 10:54:31 No.11785606 Report

Quoted By: >>11785608

>>11785596
Hard to have an opinion on something that never flew.
It looked cool though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 10:56:02 No.11785608 Report

Quoted By: >>11785609

>>11785606
It flew, not for very long though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 10:56:27 No.11785609 Report

Quoted By: >>11785622

>>11785608
That's not a flight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 11:01:05 No.11785616 Report

Quoted By: >>11785630

>>11785586
>tfw seriously considering downloading ksp and installing my 800 mods again
someone stop me

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 11:05:15 No.11785620 Report

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>>11785508
>10% failure rate
oh no no no no
She's hot, but that's all she's got going for her

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 11:05:16 No.11785621 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785596
Beautiful rocket that represents the soviet union ultimately biting itself like a snake. It was ultimately Soviet politics which drove the N1 down the wrong path of unfulfillable results and removal of important people. Had they been given more time and resources the thing could have flown. Although having to do an EVA just to get one guy in a moon lander is a bit crazy compared to what the Saturn V could do.
Either way, the N1 is fucking cool looking and the technology behind it such as the plumbing system and accompanying LK lander are awesome despite the unfortunate flaws.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 11:05:27 No.11785622 Report

Quoted By: >>11785626

>>11785609
parts of it did

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 11:09:35 No.11785626 Report

Quoted By: >>11785657

>>11785622
By that logic, Starship has also already flown.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 11:10:42 No.11785630 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785616
frickin do it mate!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 11:17:23 No.11785635 Report

Quoted By: >>11785973 >>11786654

>>11785526
SLS will never launch

>>11785390
No matter what it *will be* someday, New Glenn is still a paper rocket right now and for at least another year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 11:35:43 No.11785657 Report

Quoted By: >>11785660

>>11785626
and ahead of schedule
Bravo Elon!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 11:37:08 No.11785660 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785657
And only on one engine! What a marvel of technology!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 11:54:51 No.11785695 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785596
Would have been kino if they'd pulled it off and got a cosmonaut to the moon in the early 70s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 11:58:15 No.11785701 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785596
Could have worked with more testing and or less pressure.
But the real deal was the Soviet earth-orbit assembly lunar architecture, with that approach they. Could have easily won the moon race as it relied mostly on the soyuz rocket and capsule.

Also korolev dying screwed things up

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 12:13:00 No.11785717 Report

Quoted By: >>11785741 >>11786510

>>11785327
The sky is full of qt identical twin starlink imoutos.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 12:13:58 No.11785719 Report

Quoted By: >>11785727 >>11785732 >>11785735 >>11785897

I wonder if there is a way to keep a space station entirely in the night side of earth, so you can see the stars and shit. Would make for a great space hotel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 12:19:01 No.11785727 Report

Quoted By: >>11785729

>>11785719
hurrr

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 12:19:36 No.11785729 Report

Quoted By: >>11785736

>>11785727
?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 12:20:37 No.11785732 Report

Quoted By: >>11786184

>>11785719
L2

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 12:22:05 No.11785735 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785719

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 12:22:29 No.11785736 Report

Quoted By: >>11785740 >>11786184

>>11785729
Lagrangian points.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 12:26:02 No.11785740 Report

Quoted By: >>11785743

>>11785736
I thought all of the lagrange points were out in the sunlight, but I guess I'm wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 12:26:26 No.11785741 Report

Quoted By: >>11785750

>>11785717
>Elon fills the sky with flashing imoutos
>normies complain
>now they cover their pantsu

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 12:27:05 No.11785743 Report

Quoted By: >>11786184

>>11785740
Well, all but L2 are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 12:30:17 No.11785750 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785741
>tfw they just want to be noticed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 12:57:47 No.11785787 Report

Quoted By: >>11785857 >>11785869 >>11785886

>JWST delayed again
pottery

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 13:32:45 No.11785857 Report

Quoted By: >>11785869

>>11785787
They should rename it James Uebb Space Telescope at this point.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 13:40:03 No.11785869 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785787
>>11785857

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 13:46:17 No.11785878 Report

Quoted By: >>11785883 >>11785891 >>11785903 >>11785907

>6 months in space
>can barely function
martian colonists are going to have it rough

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 13:47:36 No.11785883 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785878
>Can barely function on Earth
Why does this matter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 13:48:58 No.11785886 Report

Quoted By: >>11786052

>>11785787
Link? I want to read the excuse this time

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 13:49:36 No.11785887 Report

Quoted By:

Buraaaaaan~!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 13:49:53 No.11785889 Report

Quoted By:

i hope some based news drops today, this week has been uneventful

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 13:51:02 No.11785891 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785878
I really, really hope they tether two starships together

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 13:52:47 No.11785897 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785719
where they would send JWT

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 13:53:43 No.11785900 Report

Quoted By: >>11785904 >>11785939 >>11785957 >>11786355 >>11786815

If the Falcon Heavy is reusable yet costs 90mil a launch, how can Starship be predicted to cost 2mil a launch? They're both reusable, but I guess Starship is just... More reusable?
Also, how does FH's price of 150mil expendable, 90mil reusable work? How can destroying a rocket after launch be less than twice as expensive as reusing it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 13:55:17 No.11785903 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785878
How many colonists does everyone think are going to be sent in the first few waves? I read a few threads back that Elon wants to send 1000 crewed Starships to Mars. What's it going to take to get a ride out there, do you think they'll put a call out for applications?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 13:55:22 No.11785904 Report

Quoted By: >>11785922

>>11785900
expendable means you waste all of 27 merlin engines

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 13:55:44 No.11785907 Report

Quoted By: >>11785916 >>11785925 >>11785940 >>11786297

>>11785878
Why the fuck are you spergs so obsessed with having earth gravity and stuff elsewhere because of your fear of jello babies and shit. Life finds a way. Martian colonists will either adapt or die. Simple as that. And no, rotating cities on Mars are not viable and noone with atleast 3 braincells is actually considering them. People will live in Martian gravity and probably will have to survive a lot more radiation too. They won't look like you after some generations and probably will not be able to live on earth get over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 13:58:28 No.11785916 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785907
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:00:02 No.11785922 Report

Quoted By: >>11785936 >>11786367

>>11785904
Yes, but apparently wasting 27 Merlin engines is only 67% more expensive than not wasting them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:00:43 No.11785925 Report

Quoted By: >>11785937 >>11787388

>>11785907
>Martian colonists will either adapt or die
great, let's just let the first wave of interplanetary colonists all die and kill all colonization efforts for at least 50 years instead of having a tiny bit of caution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:03:54 No.11785932 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785181
isn't it beck who likes venus?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:06:08 No.11785936 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785922
they'll need to perform maintenance to it before it can get reused

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:06:28 No.11785937 Report

Quoted By: >>11785945

>>11785925
>tiny bit of caution
Building orbital spinning habitats and spinning cities is neither tiny bit of caution nor feasible.

Why not just send AI nanobots to terraform Mars tommorow? we can also implement artificial gravity on Mars so that it's like earth. huuuur

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:06:35 No.11785939 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785900
Because stainless steel is a hell of a lot cheaper than some exotic fucking aluminium alloy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:07:38 No.11785940 Report

Quoted By: >>11786090

>>11785907
>Martian colonists will either adapt or die
Die it is then, because a few generations won't be enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:10:53 No.11785945 Report

Quoted By: >>11785951 >>11786385

>>11785937
nobody brought up spinning habs or cities, you replied to a post about someone recovering from 6 months in microgravity, shorter than the length of the Mars trip. How are colonists supposed to set up a new colony if none of them can even walk?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:11:34 No.11785948 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785596
Wish it was developed into being used. If it worked it could make building Mir and the ISS much easier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:13:23 No.11785951 Report

Quoted By: >>11785961 >>11785985

>>11785945
0.38g < g

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:15:07 No.11785957 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785900
I would guess (because I don't know), that the price comes down so much, because at some point you're mass producing rockets on well established assembly lines, contractors don't have to retool for a single part, but rather a batch, running and refurbishing protocols become second nature, so that you can train less skilled and less expensive labor for it, the costs for R&D get washed away with sheer volume and you have that volume, because you're the only one sending rockets into space for only 2mil a blow.

I can totally see where they're coming from, granted that they can build the thing. But it's like building a car from scratch and I mean completely, engine block, cylinders, shell, brake rotors steering column windows, panels, seats... You won't build the unit for 30 grand, or even 300 until you have a factory shitting them out by the 100s

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:19:24 No.11785961 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785951
it still will hinder their ability to function

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:23:05 No.11785973 Report

Quoted By: >>11786412 >>11787387 >>11787395

>>11785635
does anybody really expect them to ever straight up cancel SLS? Surely at a certain point congress is going to lose patience

what happened that made them so unable to build rockets anyway?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:28:45 No.11785985 Report

Quoted By: >>11785999 >>11786011 >>11786021 >>11786044

>>11785951
It's going to be heartbreaking to watch as the data comes in and they realize that it's not possible for proper development of children in low gravity. If colonists can't produce more generations, there won't be any colonization of other planets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:29:05 No.11785988 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785296
i miss him bros....

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:30:26 No.11785992 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785371
maybe if they developed rockets as fast as they developed their coat of arms they'd have made it to orbit by now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:31:53 No.11785999 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785985
it probably won't be, which is why specialized nurseries will be developed and we'll all be granted a state-mandated Martian breeder

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:34:48 No.11786011 Report

Quoted By: >>11786014

>>11785985
The solution to this is to have children grow up in a 1g environment and when they're old enough then go contribute to colonization efforts

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:36:29 No.11786014 Report

Quoted By: >>11786037 >>11786041

>>11786011
you realize that, while this is still possible, it would hold off real sustainability for centuries. the logistics of having to house mothers in special facilities and carefully raise children in them are absurd.

and no, we're nowhere close to artificial wombs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:38:47 No.11786021 Report

Quoted By: >>11786030

>>11785985
>muh heartbreak
I hate this womanish manipulation via projection of emotion.
Martian babies may work or they may not. If they don't, there are multiple ways to make artificial gravity nurseries on or off planet. Stop whining.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:40:35 No.11786030 Report

Quoted By: >>11786051

>>11786021
what does my post have to do with women? sounds to me like you're a little on edge. you have problems with women don't you? this thread is dedicated to the discussion of spaceflight, deal with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:41:52 No.11786037 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786014
the logistics for everything on another planet are absurd. if the goal is sustainability then what could be more important than securing a means of safe and reliable reproduction? what else are people on mars going to be doing once the necessary is infrastructure is built up? building theme parks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:42:50 No.11786041 Report

Quoted By: >>11786212

>>11786014
>it will take us centuries to figure out how to make something spin
This is beyond doomer logic
>we're nowhere close to artificial wombs
We can already do it with other large mammals. Technical feasibility is on the horizon, soon the only barrier will be ethics committees.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:43:21 No.11786044 Report

Quoted By: >>11786056

>>11785985
i can tell you right now it's 100% possible(source: life is more resilient than you think). Keep your jellobaby fetish to yourself schizo. go make some babies out of jello and have your fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:44:38 No.11786051 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786030
Hole in one, I guess, considering your reaction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:44:57 No.11786052 Report

Quoted By: >>11786081

>>11785886
little late but here
https://spacenews.com/nasa-confirms-jwst-will-miss-march-2021-launch-date/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:48:54 No.11786056 Report

Quoted By: >>11786065

>>11786044
There's been no serious studies on this, so the answer right now is that we simply don't know. Why are you pretending to know something you don't? Life is resilient, but organisms don't evolve in a single generation. It is possible that it works out fine, but I'm discussing the possibility that it won't

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:55:30 No.11786065 Report

Quoted By: >>11786071

>>11786056
>There's been no serious studies on this, so the answer right now is that we simply don't know.
Not that guy, this is correct. Which means acting like 'jelly babies' are reality is equally retarded. The only answer is to try and have contingency plans (rotating nurseries).

>Life is resilient, but organisms don't evolve in a single generation.
Single generation adaptation happens all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 14:58:23 No.11786071 Report

Quoted By: >>11786082 >>11786086

>>11786065
>Single generation adaptation happens all the time
It actually happens rarely, in the case of mutations. Human engineering doesn't count as genetic adaption btw before someone brings that up

If you've ever had a biology course, you should know that organisms don't develop adaptions to their environment in the way you're implying

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:01:22 No.11786081 Report

Quoted By: >>11786139

>>11786052
>https://spacenews.com/nasa-confirms-jwst-will-miss-march-2021-launch-date/
JWST? More like JUST

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:01:30 No.11786082 Report

Quoted By: >>11786103

>>11786071
Try looking up rapid evolution sometime my fair retard, it's a common response to radical environmental shifts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:05:13 No.11786083 Report

Quoted By: >>11786098 >>11786100 >>11786104 >>11786396

why not just colonize venusian skies...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:06:29 No.11786086 Report

Quoted By: >>11786103

>>11786071
the first day on the ISS you begin expelling calcium through your urine as a result of your skeletal system adapting to microgravity

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:09:53 No.11786090 Report

Quoted By: >>11786106

>>11785940
>Die it is then, because a few generations won't be enough

Nope. Martian gravity is livable already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:11:41 No.11786098 Report

Quoted By: >>11786111

>>11786083
why not just make a dyson sphere ... Why not just make a Matrioshka brain and transfer ourself into simulation simulated by said structure .. Why not just build suprsmart robots and tranfer ourselves into them and colonize the whole universe ...

I hate fucking popsci niggers holy fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:12:12 No.11786100 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786083
We talk about this meme all the time. A flying Venus colony has very little usefully available resources. Mars has basically everything you can get on Earth, the Moon is more restricted but has obvious advantages in terms of placement, Venus cannot compete.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:14:05 No.11786103 Report

Quoted By: >>11786117

>>11786082
>>11786086
Humans aren't going to suddenly become healthy living in low gravity. It takes generations (involving many thousands of individuals) for things like that to happen. From what i'm seeing here, you don't seem to know how evolution works. We'll probably need nurseries, near future genetic engineering, and specialized medical care to make it work.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:14:16 No.11786104 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786083
Not really a lot of reason to go there. You'd need to keep importing shit without anything to export.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:15:16 No.11786106 Report

Quoted By: >>11786138

>>11786090
we dont know that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:16:32 No.11786111 Report

Quoted By: >>11786136

>>11786098
>Ywn turn yourself into a starship and become a transformer and go into space whenever you want?
Why continue to function?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:18:51 No.11786117 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786103
>Humans aren't going to suddenly become healthy living in low gravity
Humans will be healthy in low gravity out of the box. Where the real questions are is in development.
> From what i'm seeing here, you don't seem to know how evolution works.
I was literally just correcting you on your poor understanding of the subject. Biological human evolution is an inefficient and unnecessary process, we will largely rely on technology. As it has always been.
>We'll probably need nurseries, near future genetic engineering, and specialized medical care to make it work.
>probably
It's a guess. Trying to make it sound more sure than it is is foolish.
>need
Also no. It's helpful, not necessary. For example, if breeding colonists and their offspring stay on Mars, there is no reason to ever be concerned that 'jello bones' adaptations to that environment will negatively effect them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:21:45 No.11786128 Report

Quoted By: >>11786130 >>11786134

A rocket that SpaceX has rushed and exploded a few times in testing sounds like it'd be a lot safer than a NASA rocket that has never exploded.
NASA tends to make rockets with critical safety flaws inherent in the design, with pre-emptively added safety mechanisms that usually neutralise these flaws.
But a much more rushed rocket that explodes in testing due to a critical flaw then has one less critical flaw. Cheaply make loads of stuff for testing to deliberately run into as many flaws as possible, and only then optimise the finer safety features, and you've got something much safer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:22:25 No.11786130 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786128
>it can't explode if you never test it
Hurgen durgen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:23:55 No.11786134 Report

Quoted By: >>11786144 >>11786407

>>11786128
to be fair, starship still doesn't have viable LES. so it has the same problem as the shuttle

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:24:03 No.11786136 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786111
>tfw no SSTO altmode
Fuck me

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:24:17 No.11786138 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786106
Yes we do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:24:24 No.11786139 Report

Quoted By: >>11786143

>>11786081
This shit better launch before 2020 is over

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:25:28 No.11786143 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786139
*2021

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:25:40 No.11786144 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786134
The Shuttle wouldn't have needed LES if it didn't have inherent safety flaws. Both is nice, but good fundamentals are way more important than an escape system (which, if your craft is fundamentally flawed, will probably be flawed as well)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:28:08 No.11786151 Report

Quoted By: >>11786169 >>11786392 >>11786525

What is it doing

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:28:35 No.11786152 Report

Quoted By: >>11786177 >>11786199 >>11787391

>"For the first time at the Cape, the weather squadron for a rocket launch is made up entirely of women"

*don't feel good, guys*

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:33:20 No.11786164 Report

Quoted By: >>11786280

>>11785195
based jermaposter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:35:13 No.11786169 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786151
Dabbing on Russia and China.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:37:44 No.11786177 Report

Quoted By: >>11786202

>>11786152
Wow this woman's opinion on space really changed huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:39:19 No.11786182 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785482
I want to pat Valentina's head like a pet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:41:47 No.11786184 Report

Quoted By: >>11786194

>>11785732
>>11785736
>>11785743
L2 is eclipsed, but not entirely, the Earth's too small for that.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:43:25 No.11786188 Report

Quoted By: >>11786194 >>11786467

>>11785482
Needs more Scott.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:45:35 No.11786194 Report

Quoted By: >>11786205

>>11786184
Well, obviously. It's technically impossible due to how orbital mechanics work to put something permanently on our night side. And due to the size of our planet, the L2 point would also not put it completely in the shade.
But L2 is not just a point for our planet, it's a theoretical point for any planet.

>>11786188
Cursed image.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:46:58 No.11786199 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786152
Funny how quickly we went from a literal SS officer running KSC to celebrating this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:48:03 No.11786202 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786177
>billions for space
>pennies for the poor
I loathe people like that. I'd like to see them live for one week in a world where the funding between social welfare programs and space programs have been flipped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:49:26 No.11786205 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786194
right, but the guy was asking about Earth specifically.
If you wanted to be exotic, I suppose you could have a station and a counterweight tethered together such that their center of mass was at L2, with the perpetual-night station being closer to Earth. Dunno how the numbers would work out on that in terms of the tensile strength of of the tether, but it could be doable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 15:53:27 No.11786212 Report

Quoted By: >>11786239 >>11786411

>>11786041
>>it will take us centuries to figure out how to make something spin
>This is beyond doomer logic
It's already taking NASA decades to do it. Then again most of NASA seems to not be interested in pushing the boundaries of what's possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:01:26 No.11786239 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786212
It isn't taking NASA decades, because that implies that NASA is doing something, which it isn't. But NASA in current year and a thriving space industry with a Mars colony are obviously two very different entities.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:03:47 No.11786243 Report

Quoted By: >>11786489

NASA Selects Astrobotic to Fly Water-Hunting Rover to the Moon
>NASA has awarded Astrobotic of Pittsburgh $199.5 million to deliver NASA’s Volatiles Investigating Polar Exploration Rover (VIPER) to the Moon’s South Pole in late 2023.
>During its 100-Earth-day mission, the approximately 1,000-pound VIPER rover will roam several miles and use its four science instruments to sample various soil environments. Versions of its three water-hunting instruments are flying to the Moon on earlier CLPS lander deliveries in 2021 and 2022 to help test their performance on the lunar surface prior to VIPER’s mission. The rover also will have a drill to bore approximately 3 feet into the lunar surface.
>VIPER will collect data – including the location and concentration of ice – that will be used to inform the first global water resource maps of the Moon. Scientific data gathered by VIPER also will inform the selection of future landing sites for astronaut Artemis missions by helping to determine locations where water and other resources can be harvested to sustain humans during extended expeditions. Its science investigations will provide insights into the evolution of the Moon and the Earth-Moon system.

https://youtu.be/S9Y6n1G5hhc

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-selects-astrobotic-to-fly-water-hunting-rover-to-the-moon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:12:59 No.11786280 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786164
/sfg/ needs awful VineSauce memes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:20:32 No.11786297 Report

Quoted By: >>11786312 >>11786912

>>11785907
Some of us think their obsession with jello babies and tethers and tilt-a-whirls is funny and like to tweak them about it.
But I really would like to see someone have the balls to have mice in zero-gee go from fucking to baby mice to grown mice. It's not that they will go jello or whatever, it's that TPTB don't want even the slightest chance of the bad optics of however it fucks up pregnancy and growth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:25:40 No.11786312 Report

Quoted By: >>11786324

>>11786297
desu I don't think it even matters what results you get in microgravity. Who is ever going to breed and stay in free fall? Mars and the moon are what we should be looking at and those results won't tell us anything about them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:28:06 No.11786324 Report

Quoted By: >>11786332

>>11786312
>Who is ever going to breed and stay in free fall?
PornHub?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:31:05 No.11786332 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786324
>https://youtu.be/9YrzBKuv5aA

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:35:57 No.11786355 Report

Quoted By: >>11786370

>>11785900
Each fairing on the Falcon rockets costs 6 million dollars (12 million for both halves) and the second stage of Falcon 9 costs ~15 million dollars.
Even though the first stage has 9 times the engines as the second stage, it isn't 9x as expensive, because SpaceX is running their rocket engine factory like a factory instead of a grant farm (ahem, aerojet rocketdyne). Finally, each booster still requires some refurb between launches.

Starship on the other hand wont' need refurb, doesn't have fairings to lose, and doesn't have any expendable stages. It really is just "more reusable"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:38:51 No.11786367 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785922
Merlin engines do not make up the lion's share of stage cost, unlike pretty much any other rocket. Most of the cost of either stage on Falcon 9 is actually just the stage itself; it's a complete myth that propellant stages are cheap and easy to manufacture, in fact they're just as optimized as rocket engines.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:38:59 No.11786370 Report

Quoted By: >>11786386 >>11786435 >>11786459 >>11786481

>>11786355
What about a fairing half requires $6million to build? Isn't it just a metal shell and a parachute?
Seems like you could build that for a few hundred bucks at most, what drives up the cost?
Also did they catch either fairing from the last Starlink launch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:41:26 No.11786382 Report

Quoted By: >>11786393 >>11786678

>Dr. Bigelow's extra heavy dosage
It was a quiet day out in the cosmos. NASA and Bigelow both stood opposite of each other:
"NASA: You have been skipping out on your IP. Why?" asked Bigelow
"I am an American Space Administration. I don't need any of these worthless IPs!" he replied with defiance.

Bigelow shook his head in disapproval and began to charge up his BA-330 tanks. Before he knew it, NASA was trapped and ready to receive its innovation:
"I didn't get this engineering degree for nothing. I want to help spaceflight. Just sit still and it'll be over soon," Bigelow calmly stated

Despite his gentle reassurance, NASA continued to struggle, cursing at the billionaire under his breath. Piccolo pulled up his and orbits: He was ready to administer the dosage. Bigelow inserted his long, thick, BEAM into the ISS's exposed docking port.

"GET IT OUT OF THERE, YOU FILTHY RICH MAN!" shouted NASA.
Bigelow replied "That is no way to speak to your investor!" and continued to apply the orbital dose

Bigelow's BEAM was thoroughly pounding the ISS and it was near connection. But it seemed it just wasn't enough to help his patient. What should I do though? Bigelow thought. Suddenly, like a flash, the idea came to him: Immediately after docking, Bigelow unsheathed his Bigelow BA-330 from the ISS and began to charge himself up. NASA thought, it was finally over, but he turned his head back only to see a giant BA-330, with its crew volume even larger than ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:42:56 No.11786385 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785945
>How are colonists supposed to set up a new colony if none of them can even walk?
They'll have ~18 months to do work on the surface of Mars before the launch window to return to Earth opens, which means needing to get around by scooting on their asses and holding onto hand rails for a few days after landing is a non-issue. It only takes between a few dozen hours and a few days for a person's inner ear function to return.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:43:14 No.11786386 Report

Quoted By: >>11786389

>>11786370
>Isn't it just a metal shell and a parachute?
It's carbon fiber, and parachutes for since parachutes are so notoriously tricky for these applications I wouldn't be surprised if that's a decent investment as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:44:17 No.11786389 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786386
I went back partway through and fucked that up. Ignore the extra 'parachutes for'

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:44:51 No.11786392 Report

Quoted By: >>11786401

>>11786151

If Boeing were smart, they'd make a derivative of this specialized for removing decommissioned /derelict satellites from orbit to return them to earth.

Everyone seems to be ignoring to the space junk issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:45:12 No.11786393 Report

Quoted By: >>11786678

>>11786382
NASA braced itself for the Saturn V-sized balloon that was about to penetrate the ISS. At first, it hurt incredibly: NASA had never felt such an powerful surge of pain before. But after an hour of nonstop pressurization, the crew volume became stretched and worn out to the point where he could enjoy it!

When Bigelow finally finished, it was released at such a force that the ISS released a large quantity of the air. Bigelow reverted back to his normal funds and let the ISS free:
"Thanks, doc. I'm sorry about how I was acting before. This module is great! I'll see you tomorrow then."

As the ISS flew over, Bigelow gave a smile of satisfaction: He was glad he could help another administration with their inflatable dose. But he had to hurry and give the other space programs their inflatable doses too! And so, he flew off as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:45:34 No.11786396 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786083
Even if Venus had much nicer surface conditions that would allow us to set up a non-meme colony, it still wouldn't make sense to set up our first colonies there, because colonizing Venus does nothing at all to enable us to further explore and colonize the solar system. Venus simply has too much gravity, almost as much as Earth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:47:29 No.11786401 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786392
>Everyone seems to be ignoring to the space junk issue.
That's because it's not a pressing matter. There's no incentive (particularly monetarily) in creating solutions to a problem that hasn't manifested.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:48:43 No.11786407 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786134
What part of "added safety mechanisms to neutralize flaws" didn't you understand?
Needing a LES means your launch system has inherent reliability issues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:50:44 No.11786411 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786212
>It's already taking NASA decades to do it.
NASA takes decades to do anything. If we need spin gravity to get to Mars, SpaceX will do that. It'll only take them a few months to whip an experimental prototype tether system together if the problem becomes apparent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:51:17 No.11786412 Report

Quoted By: >>11786431 >>11786494

>>11785973
They won’t cancel it, but it will certainly fly the minimum amount of times it is legally obligated to. I can’t imagine them pumping out more than 10, hell more than 3 really...
And from the way Starship is looking I would be so bold as to say SLS might be the very last in-house rocket we ever see that is made directly by NASA- unless they have a major rocket philosophy change (or Jim gets fired and replaced by a democrat who just wants to appease politicians and their contractors)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:55:54 No.11786431 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786412
>SLS might be the very last in-house rocket we ever see that is made directly by NASA
I certainly hope so. You wouldn't have a small research oriented division of the government trying to pump out competitive cars or planes. It makes no more sense to do it with launch vehicles in the modern commercial landscape.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:56:03 No.11786435 Report

Quoted By: >>11786452

>>11786370
Each fairing has a ton of hardware installed for doing things like climate control and shit.
Each fairing is two huge carbon fiber layups sandwiched around and bonded to an aluminum honeycomb core. The manufacturing process isn't just expensive, it's also extremely time consuming.
I guarantee you that the fairings on other launch vehicles cost just as much per square meter if not more, but those costs are hidden behind the extreme costs of the rocket itself, and of course its multi-million dollar overpriced engines.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:58:11 No.11786442 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785250
Or they could just land on the moon to begin with and spend their money there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 16:59:48 No.11786452 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786435
>I guarantee you that the fairings on other launch vehicles cost just as much per square meter if not more, but those costs are hidden
I can believe that easily, especially since they always talked up the Shuttle as being effective because it only threw away that single "cheap" external tank, except that tank cost more than an expendable Falcon 9 does today, and expendable Falcon 9 beats Shuttle in terms of payload to LEO and of course payload to anywhere beyond LEO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 17:01:29 No.11786456 Report

Quoted By: >>11786465

>>11785250
Gateway won't lead to Moon bases owned by multiple countries, at most it will represent a couple extra contracts for station modules that will be used to construct Gateway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 17:01:57 No.11786459 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786370
SpaceX also uses hydraulic ferring separation, not explosive

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 17:04:05 No.11786465 Report

Quoted By: >>11786503

>>11786456
To this day the purpose of Gateway eludes me. It's just a dV tax to the surface. Its existence seems to be an intentional boondoggle.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 17:04:23 No.11786467 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786188
very cursed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 17:11:30 No.11786481 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786370
>Also did they catch either fairing from the last Starlink launch?
nopp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 17:14:46 No.11786489 Report

Quoted By: >>11786504

>>11786243
Astrobotic said they wanted to communicate with Earth using a satellite orbiting the Moon but said there weren't any good options. Whoever gets a comms sat that covers the Lunar south pole will have a monopoly for awhile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 17:16:02 No.11786494 Report

Quoted By: >>11786503

>>11786412
>(or Jim gets fired and replaced by a democrat who just wants to appease politicians and their contractors)
>inb4 that replacement strips away Artemis because it's orange man's legacy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 17:19:30 No.11786503 Report

Quoted By: >>11786530

>>11786465
Yeah but we have the rockets to pay that tax to get there, and it can be adjusted to stage landings all over the surface. Although THIS part seems like the real waste cause we’ll probably just see landings to the south pole lmao.
>>11786494
I can’t imagine Artemis being more viable than Apollo. What’s stopping it from getting cancelled after loss of public interest after the first landing? I guess the real question is how in the fuck NASA secured funding for ISS for the past 22 years and can they do this for Artemis?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 17:19:35 No.11786504 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786489
>whoever
are we pretending that won't be spacex?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 17:22:33 No.11786510 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785717
>the Misaka Network is becoming real

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 17:28:17 No.11786525 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786151
you're sister

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 17:29:54 No.11786530 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786503
>What’s stopping it from getting cancelled after loss of public interest after the first landing?
NASA's plan is Gateway also known as ISS 2.0.

>I guess the real question is how in the fuck NASA secured funding for ISS for the past 22 years and can they do this for Artemis?
I think it was mainly down to the fact that it was an international station that had international partners who would be upset that their few chances to do things in space got canned.

There is also the possibility that it was also due to the ISS seeming "non-threatening" in terms of growing budgets. Apollo was "scary" for politicians because it had all the technology and infrastructure ready to not only go back to the moon but also travel beyond it. Which means a much larger budget to fuel the expansion. ISS is just a dingy RV of a station which had no ambitions beyond just sitting there and look pretty. Which looks more sensible to a politican who's more concerned about pleasing constituents? As long as Gateway looks non-threatening like the ISS, then it and some part of Artemis can survive a Democrat president.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 18:13:45 No.11786617 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785359
nobody even posted anime, some guy posted the Saturn V gijinka (which isn't anime, it's /jp/)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 18:26:59 No.11786654 Report

Quoted By: >>11786670 >>11786671

>>11785635
>New Glenn is still a paper rocket right now
It's not a paper rocket if there's hardware. They've started on the tank production, they have a fairing done, and the engine definitely exists.
They just don't seem anywhere close to a fully assembled rocket.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 18:31:52 No.11786670 Report

Quoted By: >>11786929

>>11786654
I would say New Glenn is more than just “on paper”, but it’s about equal with Starship. Difference is we know which of these two are going to fly first. Will blue origin ever do more than just make rocket engines for ULA? I can’t imagine their own rockets flying any time soon and quite frankly I don’t think they care at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 18:32:03 No.11786671 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786654
to be fair they still have 1.5 years to launch it until the official deadline

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 18:33:44 No.11786678 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786382
>>11786393

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 18:59:07 No.11786736 Report

Quoted By: >>11786763

>>11785258
They swapped out the flag livery in favor of this flame design. It's better though still not great. I imagine neither will appear on the final rocket though, just like the SLS had unsightly stripes on its SRBs in some old renders.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 19:03:23 No.11786751 Report

Quoted By: >>11786756 >>11786762

>>11785171
When the fuck are they gonna man up and stop littering with shitty boosters all over the place? Build a real engine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 19:05:38 No.11786756 Report

Quoted By: >>11786761 >>11786803

>>11786751
The boosters are part of a "Dial-A-Rocket" design philosophy intended to cut down on costs. Which makes sense for an expendable or partially-reusable rocket.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 19:06:13 No.11786761 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786756
Whenever I see boosters attached to a rocket, this is what I really see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 19:06:27 No.11786762 Report

Quoted By: >>11786770

>>11786751
think they're planning reuse on vulcan 'eventually'

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 19:06:32 No.11786763 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786736
Aw man I actually kind of liked that “whisp” design on the SLS’s SRB’s. Looked better than the average looking white shuttle design. Still not as bad as that UGLY ass red white and blue mockup we saw with the Artemis spacesuits- I hope that shit never makes it to space.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 19:08:33 No.11786770 Report

Quoted By: >>11786792

>>11786762
The time for expendable is over. You'd think they'd gotten the memo by now when they barely have a fucking marketshare left.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 19:14:18 No.11786792 Report

Quoted By: >>11786834

>>11786770
Yeah I agree. Obviously for a company like ULA , designing and building a new heavy launch vehicle is a long process, but you’d think they would start to try and compete with spacex’s philosophy... The helicopter recovery idea just seems so dumb they’re probably not even going to do it other than a couple of times for experiment

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 19:16:07 No.11786797 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785583
Design, yes.
Build, probably.
Afford launching, probably not. An Electron launch is $6 million.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 19:18:43 No.11786803 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786756
>Which makes sense for an expendable or partially-reusable rocket.
Honestly, the dial-a-rocket philosophy is a failure. Falcon 9 is the cheapest option per payload around because they make one version to launch any payload mass, and if the payload is small relative to capacity they say fuck it and launch the whole thing anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 19:22:29 No.11786815 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785900
Because you are comparing the sticker price of falcon heavy to the projected internal cost to launch starship you numpty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 19:28:57 No.11786834 Report

Quoted By: >>11786907 >>11786917

>>11786792
>but you’d think they would start to try and compete with spacex’s philosophy
Company culture comes from people. You'd have to replace a ton of managers and executives to pivot like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 19:52:02 No.11786907 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786834
It's even worse with ULA because both its parents are oldspace. You could remove everyone and all you'd get in the turnover is more of the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 19:54:07 No.11786912 Report

Quoted By: >>11786978 >>11787485

>>11786297
the real danger here is this scenario:
>experiment shows that mice babies come out as horrible abominations that can't survive on their own, brains fucked up etc.
>government decides manned spaceflight is officially over, drops all space funding aside from earth satellites for the next 80 years

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 19:55:51 No.11786917 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786834
Have heard that ULA has a hard time holding onto bright-eyed, ambitious youngsters because of its culture, which is going to make it that much harder to change the culture. It's going to be stuck as it is unless there's either mass firings or the old farts in executive positions start retiring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:00:13 No.11786929 Report

Quoted By: >>11786966

>>11786670
BO has been slow so far, but that doesn't mean they can't catch up. Jeff seems to have some pretty ambitious plans involving industrializing and colonizing space, he just isn't as ballsy as Elon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:05:51 No.11786943 Report

Quoted By: >>11786962 >>11787943

hmmmmm
what IS this thing

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:11:07 No.11786960 Report

Quoted By: >>11786973

>>11785149
Is this applicable to the thread? It’s about SpaceX tangentially. Tesla has just reached $1000 a share And is now valued higher on the stock market then Toyota.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:11:19 No.11786962 Report

Quoted By: >>11786973

>>11786943
a pickup truck

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:11:46 No.11786966 Report

Quoted By: >>11786984

>>11786929
I won't say BO cannot catch up but I don't see it being any sooner than decades down the line at this point. New Glenn is not the rocket they need right now and any fully reusable superheavy lifter to compete with SS is probably more than a decade away at their pace.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:13:05 No.11786973 Report

Quoted By: >>11786986 >>11786994

>>11786960
No, go to >>>/biz/
>>11786962
no, this thing
also: how can it be a truck if it's not even angular

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:14:51 No.11786978 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786912
>government decides manned spaceflight is officially over, drops all space funding aside from earth satellites for the next 80 years
>SpaceX doesn't care and continues colonizing Moon and Mars by themselves, simply holding off on the in-situ reproduction thing until they have spin-gravity stations to pack pregnant women into

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:16:12 No.11786984 Report

Quoted By: >>11786997 >>11787008 >>11787010

>>11786966
You're forgetting that spacex went from barely being able to launch the falcon 1 to their current success in only 15 years. and bezos can dump billions into it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:16:35 No.11786986 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786973
I think those are the CH4/LOX pumps for the test stand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:19:01 No.11786994 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786973
Cryogenic recondenser; converts methane boil-off vapors back into liquid methane, using liquid nitrogen, which is both cheaper and able to be vented directly to atmosphere without requiring a flare stack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:20:56 No.11786997 Report

Quoted By: >>11787021

>>11786984
I'm not forgetting shit. BO is not SpaceX. Money doesn't make good pace, good management makes good pace.
BO was around before SpaceX, it's been pumped with papa B's stipend for a long time now. Just compare the pace with which BO developed the BE-4 to SpaceX developing the superior-in-every-way Raptor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:23:59 No.11787008 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786984
>and bezos can dump billions into it
Okay, and since when does more money = faster development in aerospace? Just look at SLS, or better yet look at JWST.
Having less money means you need to be leaner and faster in order to produce and stay afloat, while an unlimited budget lets you be as fat and lazy as you want (in fact it directly incentivizes being fatter and lazier).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:24:53 No.11787010 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786984
Blue Origin went from a billionaire's think tank to a billionaire's think tank with an oversized model rocket in 15 years, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:27:56 No.11787021 Report

Quoted By: >>11787042

>>11786997
Not only does money not equate to good pace, money is what allows bad management to persist, which almost always means significantly worse pace and worse final product.

Also, if BO moved at the same pace as SpaceX they'd be far ahead of where SpaceX is now, because BO is actually the older company.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:33:58 No.11787042 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787021
Yeah i’m pretty sure part of the reason why SpaceX has persisted is because Elon had just enough money to keep it afloat, but more importantly it is full of people trying to beat the odds- and these people are willing to put in the long hours and all nighters to get the job done. The space business isn’t necessarily something you go into for profit as a small company, but there seems to be a culture of persistence with spacex whereas BO seems to breed off the deep pockets of Bezos to do “business as usual” while not really doing anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:37:00 No.11787048 Report

Quoted By: >>11787057

I just came up with a kinetic energy rocket assist concept and I need you guys to tell me how stupid it is.

Imagine:

bunch a sky scraper sized towers in a ring around a chemical rocket. Suspended by each tower is as large a weight it can hold. Each weight is connected to a pulley/ spring system that flicks the rocket upward. Could this somehow work or is it worse than the spinning guys

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:37:52 No.11787049 Report

Quoted By:

>tfw you will never make it to space

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:40:27 No.11787057 Report

Quoted By: >>11787078 >>11787152

>>11787048
catapult assist isn't the stupidest thing I've ever heard (that's the rockoon) but it's up there

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:45:33 No.11787065 Report

Quoted By: >>11787067

>Cummings: SpaceX, through a partnership with NASA's Kennedy Space Center, has "a lot of data from Apollo" on "the properties of the lunar regolith and how things like the plumes from engines and the lunar regolith interact."

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:46:29 No.11787067 Report

Quoted By: >>11787084 >>11787099

>>11787065
Is this stuff not just public in the first place? For what purpose

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:51:33 No.11787078 Report

Quoted By: >>11787111

>>11787057
>(that's the rockoon)
A what, rocket-balloon?
Actually, what's wrong with using a dirigible to heft a rocket as high as you can get it before lighting the engine, you'd be getting it past the thickest part of the atmosphere for relatively cheap, probably wouldn't need as large a rocket.
If you can launch off a big ugly plane, why not a big ugly blimp? brb will research in KSP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:53:00 No.11787084 Report

Quoted By: >>11787094 >>11787124

>>11787067
Not everything is public, we don’t want the the Chinese to find out without doing it themselves (lol this isn’t a joke. My thesis advisor works for NASA and he is ordered by law to not share Mars regolith composition with any Chinese scientist)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:55:15 No.11787094 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787084
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:56:00 No.11787096 Report

Quoted By: >>11787133 >>11787143

the future of spaceflight is female

/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/h100xv/new_starship_upskirt_render_with_detailed_raptors/ftpqhqg/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 20:56:47 No.11787099 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787067
just like most science that's locked behind paywalls, if you just go and talk to the people who did it they'll give it away
only instead of approaching a scientist as a scientist, you need to approach NASA as an American citizen (in person) and it'll mostly work out
they have a limited budget for that (due to limited interest from the public) but the technical data isn't something they're guarding from Americans

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 21:01:53 No.11787105 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785462
>>11785396
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 21:03:06 No.11787111 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787078
you need a fucking huge blimp in order to haul a big rocket
it's easier to just make your rocket slightly bigger
air launch (especially if you can do a pull-up maneuver) is almost worth it because you might be able to do single stage from there to orbit
haven't seen the numbers yet but if you can do recoverable subsonic airlaunch zeroeth stage to single stage to orbit then it'll be totally worth it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 21:11:31 No.11787124 Report

Quoted By: >>11787193 >>11787209 >>11787254

>>11787084
What about chinese-americans? Because if he shares it with them then China already has it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 21:16:14 No.11787133 Report

Quoted By: >>11787137 >>11787143 >>11787145 >>11787162 >>11787249 >>11787292

>>11787096
anon, I

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 21:17:17 No.11787137 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787133
Cringe. Better tweet it to the main man and see if he likes it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 21:17:50 No.11787143 Report

Quoted By: >>11787144

>>11787096
>>11787133
>leddit
kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 21:18:28 No.11787144 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787143
I only went there to repost it here, but it had been deleted
as you can see, I do not even have a reddit account

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 21:18:52 No.11787145 Report

Quoted By: >>11787147 >>11787156 >>11787162

>>11787133
SAVE ME, MODS

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 21:19:42 No.11787147 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787145
that is lewd

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 21:22:20 No.11787152 Report

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>>11787057
Same anon here, would it work better in smaller gravity wells?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 21:22:22 No.11787153 Report

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>>11785149
>First manned Starship that makes it to Mars has mariachi music playing as the elevator descends to the surface.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 21:23:40 No.11787156 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787145
fucking whore

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 21:25:51 No.11787162 Report

Quoted By: >>11787244 >>11788994

>>11787145
>>11787133
Has someone done a humanization of this yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 21:28:50 No.11787167 Report

Quoted By:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEnz8V97Qck

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 21:44:10 No.11787193 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787124
That's the loophole and is what will eventually lead to them getting put in camps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 21:53:52 No.11787209 Report

Quoted By: >>11787210 >>11787237

>>11787124
Depends on how assimilated they are, non-Chinease also can become spies for monetary/ideological reasons, it’s just they are less likely to. The best way to defend upon espionage is to innovate so fast that by the time the CCP stole your tech it’s already obsolete.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 21:55:13 No.11787210 Report

Quoted By: >>11787223

>>11787209
China could be hand delivered the blueprints and they wouldn't be able to build a Raptor because their materials science is trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 21:59:20 No.11787223 Report

Quoted By: >>11787225

>>11787210
Really depends. They've reverse engineered many things from the world with just pieces here/there. If they get good enough blue print, they can easily replicate most of the Raptor designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:00:21 No.11787225 Report

Quoted By: >>11787240

>>11787223
>If they get good enough blue print
, money, time, and manpower. Things that China is abundant in right now. Especially if military/state gets involved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:05:28 No.11787237 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787209
And sexual reasons, FBI and CIA agents can't resist chinese pussy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:05:41 No.11787240 Report

Quoted By: >>11787253 >>11787256 >>11787261

>>11787225
Yeah and then they get some mongrel materials from a "certified" mill containing anything but what they actually ordered and everything explodes on the test bench.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:06:41 No.11787244 Report

Quoted By: >>11787246

>>11787162
There's no upskirt stuff, but they are humanizations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:07:36 No.11787246 Report

Quoted By: >>11787251

>>11787244
fuck off

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:08:51 No.11787249 Report

Quoted By: >>11787270 >>11787292 >>11787495

>>11787133
for some reason old reddit still shows the post kek

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:09:15 No.11787251 Report

Quoted By: >>11787287 >>11787353

What would /sfg/ bring aboard mars to entertain themselves?
>>11787246
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:10:08 No.11787253 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787240
And the fake contractor gets "disappeared" by the state. They got harsh punishments for military/state related things. I'm thinking they got good enough material science. They stole Japanese bullet train and overproduced them to extreme degree. Their hypersonic missiles were supposedly stolen from US, but they made it a success with multiple test runs while ours is a failure even today.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:10:20 No.11787254 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787124
He hasn’t had to deal with that problem AFAIK. Our geology department has a ton of Chinese students (we have an exchange program) but they are all geochemists. Nice people but they smell like shit and don’t speak english. Only whites and indians go into petrology and planetary science. We don’t talk to the fucking nerd geochemists, they know nothing about geology or chemistry desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:11:05 No.11787256 Report

Quoted By: >>11787265 >>11787269

>>11787240
IIRC the questionable Chinese materials is only an issue if you're not with the Chinese government. Which makes sense as communist regimes have a way of making its people disappear on a whim.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:13:10 No.11787261 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787240
It doesn’t matter if China’s version of American tech is a bit shittier because they can make 50 times the amount of something we can.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:13:31 No.11787265 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787256
It's a communist system, they cut corners everywhere. Look at that fucking BSL-4 lab of theirs where they reported SERIOUS lack of trained personnel and serious concerns of actually keeping shit under control long before the kung flu shit was a thing.

Pic very related. You can call them an "economic powerhouse" until you're blue in the face, but they get paid fuck all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:14:23 No.11787269 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787256
The other reason it makes sense is because consumer goods are sold at the cheapest rate possible and they cut all sorts of corners. People buy them because they're cheap and they have to finds ways to get the cheapest product out there while still being marginally decent. This is why you get $0.50 bluetooth module in China, but if you buy one made in US, it would cost $20 or more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:14:26 No.11787270 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787249
lol reddit

Somebody should post some really fucked up r34 under clickbait titles just to keep these retards riled up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:14:51 No.11787273 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785508
>Upskirt shot of her exposed bells.
OH FUCK OH FUCK I-I'M GONNA
COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:20:32 No.11787287 Report

Quoted By: >>11787296

>>11787251
Music, especially if you get some downlink with earth you could download songs (it’ll take a while but it could be done). LAN video games for past time. Low gravity exercise like swimming or biking if there are indoor facilities- id also like to start a casual softball or lacrosse team but I wouldn’t want it to get too jocky and competitive. I’d also read a lot but I don’t read here on Earth so I hope the library would be stocked with dank readings. Also i’d be really absorbed in my work, whatever it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:21:57 No.11787292 Report

Quoted By: >>11787303

>>11787133
>>11787249
Who the fuck even goes there and why? What a phenomenal waste of time, go anonymous or go fuck yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:23:50 No.11787296 Report

Quoted By: >>11787309 >>11787403

>>11787287
>I wouldn’t want it to get too jocky and competitive

Only Type A chads are going to Mars.

Marsball will be an intense sport of fighter pilots who also have PHDs trying to destroy each other in 0.4G

In other words, it'd be really cool and if you televised it that would probably pay for half of the colony.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:25:56 No.11787303 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787292
>Who the fuck even goes there and why?
It's pretty convenient for niche hobbies that might not get a dedicated general here, and it's easy to read past discussions there too. Just avoid the politically charged and popular subreddits and the cancer won't be any worse than here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:29:35 No.11787309 Report

Quoted By: >>11787327

>>11787296
This is why lacrosse is optimal. Something like baseball or basketball would be too crazy, you could take full court shots or hit home runs with simple dinks of the bat. Lacrosse would just be a matter of learning how to pass, run, and shoot in a low-g environment. Marsball would be full of Chads

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:35:41 No.11787327 Report

Quoted By: >>11787338

>>11787309
I want to see jai alai death matches.

That or completely absurd basketball games where everybody is in the air all of the time and the hoops are like 30 feet off of the ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:40:33 No.11787338 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787327
I hope my kids or my grandkids have the chance to have powered flight competitions on Titan. You could strap wings to your spacesuit and flap your arms and fly. How fucking amazing would that be, it could be like the redbull air races

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:45:09 No.11787353 Report

Quoted By: >>11787362 >>11787374 >>11787396 >>11787411 >>11787423 >>11787504 >>11788041

>>11787251
1 PB of porn/anime/movies/tvshows/music/books/ets

You can buy 100 TB SSD today @ $40K, the size of standard HDD. But if it was on Mars, I suspect we'd be in 2030s, by then I will guess we will have 1 petabyte for $40K or so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:47:54 No.11787362 Report

Quoted By: >>11787372

>>11787353
If I was going to Mars, I'd be too busy doing actual shit there to be a fucking hikki. Wouldn't need all that shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:50:51 No.11787372 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787362
You say that now, but once the time comes you'll be glad to carry the extra 200 grams of SSD.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:53:39 No.11787374 Report

Quoted By: >>11787383 >>11787386

>>11787353
>t.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:56:39 No.11787383 Report

Quoted By: >>11787398

>>11787374
VR and interplanetary travel developing in tandem makes me worry that this is basically what all the voyages are going to devolve into

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:58:02 No.11787386 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787374
Putting the ass in 4ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:58:24 No.11787387 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785973
>Surely at a certain point congress is going to lose patience
lmao they only care the the money keeps rolling in

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:59:14 No.11787388 Report

Quoted By: >>11787409

>>11785925
Yes, actually, let's do exactly that. Colonization over the oceans only worked when we ignored people like you and just did things hoping they'd turn out well hundreds of years later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 22:59:28 No.11787391 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786152
What's wrong with this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:00:58 No.11787395 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785973
>what happened that made them so unable to build rockets anyway?
cost-plus contracting

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:01:15 No.11787396 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787353
Similarly, assuming internet uplink won't be available, hours and hours of vtuber livestream recordings. Same shit that gets me through gardening, working out, and cooking at home.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:01:48 No.11787398 Report

Quoted By: >>11787400 >>11787404 >>11787439 >>11787510

>>11787383
Why do you worry? VR might make interplanetary trips bearable even if it devolves into a degenerate VR orgy between all the crews of a convoy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:02:38 No.11787400 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787398
You want Space Wolves? Because I'm pretty fucking sure that's how you get Space Wolves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:03:19 No.11787403 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787296
>Only Type A chads are going to Mars.

Incorrect assessment. Yes the first few ships will be full of gigachad fighter pilot doctor engineers but they will run out of these very fast. Imagine a Venn diagram with circles labelled "wants to go" "can afford to go" "has relevant trade and/or technical skills" and "has no family"

It will be a very small amount of people. If you want to go, have some practical skills and the money you stand a very good chance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:03:32 No.11787404 Report

Quoted By: >>11787416 >>11787417

>>11787398
why not just have a regular orgy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:05:01 No.11787409 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787388
>Colonization over the oceans only worked when we ignored people like you
the difference between colonizing the Americas and colonizing Mars is that there's nothing on Mars anybody actually wants and many, many people already see it as completely pointless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:05:13 No.11787411 Report

Quoted By: >>11787419

>>11787353
>get to Mars
>find most of your data is fucked because the rads fried it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:06:43 No.11787416 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787404
Contemplate the mess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:07:07 No.11787417 Report

Quoted By: >>11787418

>>11787404
Would an orgy even be possible in mirco-g? Wouldn't the motions of everyone involved just end up tossing out the outermost members of the fuck ball?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:07:34 No.11787418 Report

Quoted By: >>11787476

>>11787417
you need to hold on

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:07:50 No.11787419 Report

Quoted By: >>11787427

>>11787411
>tfw they pull you aside and start questioning you about the lead bricks labeled 'porn vault' you had to submit for the manifest

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:08:54 No.11787423 Report

Quoted By: >>11787435

>>11787353
>1 PB
Bruh, you're going to need way more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:10:31 No.11787427 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787419
they better not confiscate your lead, I need that to cast muh bullets

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:12:22 No.11787435 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787423
Okay, 100 PB, or 2 KG of extra weight onboard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:12:58 No.11787439 Report

Quoted By: >>11787446 >>11787452 >>11787460

>>11787398
VR being used recreationally for extended periods of time outside of training purposes just concerns me. Lot of potential for people to become detached, and idk about you but being trapped in ship with people who are becoming increasingly mentally unstable sounds like a bad idea. I don't think it's something many people can handle responsibly. There have been movies about this and they don't strike me as unrealistic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:15:38 No.11787445 Report

Quoted By: >>11787455 >>11787467 >>11787873

It's only a matter of time before china says fuck it and quadruples the budget of their space program, rapidly develops a horribly unsafe deep space capsule, and sends some poor soul on a venus flyby just to shit on america

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:15:43 No.11787446 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787439
I used to play a lot of VR, it fucked with my head pretty bad about what is real when I would play for extended stretches over many days, probably didn't help I was stoned as fuck most of the time. But yeah I think as the tech improves this is going to be a very noticeable phenomenon, shit you already have neets over on /vrg/ who basically live in their headsets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:17:29 No.11787452 Report

Quoted By: >>11787491

>>11787439
>Lot of potential for people to become detached
this is an outdated boomer meme concern, VR has no more chance of "detaching" anyone than any hobby

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:17:56 No.11787455 Report

Quoted By: >>11787462 >>11787481

>>11787445
Why is this thread full of schizos convinced the Chinese “Space” Program is fully prepared to try and outcompete the US?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:18:52 No.11787457 Report

Quoted By: >>11787464 >>11787471

this graph SUCKS

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:19:35 No.11787460 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787439
It's a bunch of people stuck on a tin can in microgravity for months at a time. It doesn't matter if it's VR or any other form of media or just staring at a wall, the vast majority of everyone's time in transit will be spent practising some form of escapism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:19:50 No.11787462 Report

Quoted By: >>11787475 >>11787481

>>11787455
If they want to they could make a very good shot of it. They have gigabytes of photos from boca Chica so if they wanted to could just pump out endless starship style prototypes using their massive industrial base until it works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:20:36 No.11787464 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787457
a lot messier than I excepted 2bh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:21:00 No.11787467 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787445
They're as likely to throw a dissident INTO Venus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:21:17 No.11787471 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787457
why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:23:38 No.11787475 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787462
So could jeff bezos, but it isn’t worth the money. Not for another billionaire and certainly not for a fucking degenerate country who’s entire GDP is one unstable inflated mess

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:23:44 No.11787476 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787418
>be me
>partaking in the SN69 orgy
>get booty slammed out of the fuck ball
>try to grab a hold on someone
>grab something thick and slimy
>it's some guy's penis
>hrw

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:24:55 No.11787480 Report

Quoted By: >>11787496 >>11788190

>Backup Date June 11, 2020 7:00 p.m. – 8:00 p.m. Closure Canceled
>Backup Date June 12, 2020 8:00 a.m. – 5:00 p.m. Closure Canceled
AAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:25:05 No.11787481 Report

Quoted By: >>11787482 >>11787498

>>11787455
>schizos
That is the answer
>>11787462
'gigabytes of photos of boca chica' gives you absolutely nothing. You think any nation in the world lacks the ability to acquire, shape, and weld rolls of stainless steel?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:26:11 No.11787482 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787481
China lacks that ability hahahah

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:27:09 No.11787485 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786912
i could see that happening in zero g, but we'd have to test that in mars gravity

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:29:58 No.11787491 Report

Quoted By: >>11787503 >>11787507

>>11787452
Is it though? I mean just look at how smartphones have altered people's behavior. VR is just that cranked up to 11. I'm not saying it's this guaranteed affect that will happen to everyone but there are certain personalities that are more susceptible to stuff like this who will take to it hard and not in a good way. I don't know of any other hobbies whose entire premise is to fabricate a new (and more pleasurable) reality

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:31:03 No.11787495 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787249
fucking reddit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:31:23 No.11787496 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787480
What

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:31:48 No.11787498 Report

Quoted By: >>11787513 >>11787514

>>11787481
>You think any nation in the world lacks the ability to acquire, shape, and weld rolls of stainless steel?

For making rockets? A specialised desifn totally different from any kind of steel pressure vessel? Yes seeing how it's already being done will give you a big head start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:33:03 No.11787503 Report

Quoted By: >>11787511

>>11787491
When I become supreme high chancellor I will order every smartphone destroyed. The amount of damage they have done to society is immeasurable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:33:19 No.11787504 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787353
>der coomer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:34:26 No.11787507 Report

Quoted By: >>11787546

>>11787491
>I mean just look at how smartphones have altered people's behavior.
People get distracted by their smartphones because they overly rely on them and have them by their sides at all times. Unless you have some kind of neural jack and are living in the year 2077 how do the problems with smartphones transfer to VR in any way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:35:31 No.11787510 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787398
I wouldn't exactly want a space colony to be filled with eldar tier hedonists either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:36:04 No.11787511 Report

Quoted By: >>11787512 >>11787523

>>11787503
Just ban Internet ads and in-game purchases on all platforms. 90 percent of the normie net goes poof.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:36:55 No.11787512 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787511
Hazardously base'd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:37:24 No.11787513 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787498
>A specialised desifn totally different from any kind of steel pressure vessel?
You can add as much to it as you like to make it sound more complicated but it's still a welded tube of 4mil thick 300 series stainless. There's nothing hard about it. The ship itself is the easy part, which is why they (and ITAR) don't care about having it out in the open.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:37:32 No.11787514 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787498
The thing would eviscerate before making it to orbit. The chinese might be degenerate scum but they aren’t competing for space supremacy, and if they began ramping up production tomorrow to compete with us we’re already light years ahead

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:39:32 No.11787523 Report

Quoted By: >>11787531 >>11787544

>>11787511
That's probably true I suppose. Still I would destroy every smartphone regardless to make sure, people should have a semi-dumbphone with the ability to make calls, texts and emails, listen to music and use navigation apps from their phone. That's it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:41:28 No.11787531 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787523
This. Mobile phones are the parasite's way to control minds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:45:28 No.11787544 Report

Quoted By: >>11787557 >>11787575 >>11787598

>>11787523
I want to take a break from the China discussion and give my input on the smartphone discussion. Fuck smartphones. They have done nothing but degrade society. My ex girlfriend would just stare at her phone even when I brought her to nice restaurants. It’s not that I’m cynical about it- I just think it’s destroying the fabric of society. Civilization on mars only need walkie talkies/star trek communicators and that’s it. Internet should be reserved for indoor use when not socializing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:46:19 No.11787546 Report

Quoted By: >>11787562 >>11787563

>>11787507
It's a demonstration of how quickly new technology can become embedded in a person's psyche. And VR is more powerful than phones, instead of opening a social media app you can put on a headset and visit communities "in person" with HD visuals and surround sound. A VR setup would be no less accessible than a phone when you're locked in on a 6 month trip to Mars. If you don't see the potential for trouble there then I think you have way too much faith in the average person's ability to resist the effects it'll have

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:49:05 No.11787557 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787544
Glad you dumbed that bitch anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:50:15 No.11787562 Report

Quoted By: >>11787578 >>11787579

>>11787546
> A VR setup would be no less accessible than a phone when you're locked in on a 6 month trip to Mars.
Why the fuck are you even worried about what people are doing on the trip there? Good luck enforcing some sort of hyper-normie socialization policy, everyone will be sick of each other in a week.
Anyway, VR is still the opposite end of the spectrum from smartphones. At any time you can crack open a book, pull out a phone, a manga, a magazine, whatever. I don't see why you are pissed about VR specifically which is the most spacially limited and takes the most time to set up and get into.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:51:16 No.11787563 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787546
I don't think VR is going to be as problematic as you think. you can't use it for that long bc of eye strain and practical reasons. even then, if it's used to facilitate normal interaction in environments where socializing is difficult (i.e. space) then it could be a useful tool. besides, the deteriorating mental health problems caused by chronic social media exposure are already known by most people

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:54:08 No.11787575 Report

Quoted By: >>11787873

>>11787544
>friends come over to watch/play some shit
>just sit there texting other people the entire time
Why are you even in my house, go home.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:55:22 No.11787578 Report

Quoted By: >>11787614

>>11787562
>Why the fuck are you even worried about what people are doing on the trip there?
Because I'll be in close proximity with them for half a year? What kind of question is that?

>Good luck enforcing some sort of hyper-normie socialization policy
Actually the opposite but ok

> I don't see why you are pissed about VR specifically which is the most spatially limited and takes the most time to set up and get into.
Glad you've come around to arguing against its practicality issues rather than its psychological ones

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:55:29 No.11787579 Report

Quoted By: >>11787596

>>11787562
Yeah that’s the reality. Who the fuck is going to enforce the “no VR, no jacking off, no antisocial tendencies, etc.” policy- much less FOLLOW those rules. I believe people who fly on Starships (especially the first generation) will already be prepared mentally and should be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want so long as it doesn’t impede on anyone else’s privacy or alone time

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:58:03 No.11787591 Report

Quoted By: >>11787609

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:59:31 No.11787596 Report

Quoted By: >>11787612 >>11787632

>>11787579
it's because of people like you that i'll have to purchase the platinum security package whenever i want to get off this planet

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jun 2020 23:59:49 No.11787598 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787544
Iktf bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:04:37 No.11787609 Report

Quoted By: >>11787613

>>11787591
What if you work from home and the screens are the same

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:05:53 No.11787612 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787596
Your smug ass will get thrown out the airlock the second you start a monologue about how everyone’s VR set is “jeopardizing the mission“. They’ll find your goop-covered mangas after the fact and realize your personal escapism was even more degenerate than the very thing you were complaining about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:06:13 No.11787613 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787609
>time to close bad window
>hello, good window! I missed you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:06:32 No.11787614 Report

Quoted By: >>11787649

>>11787578
>Glad you've come around to arguing against its practicality issues rather than its psychological ones
Its practicality issues are what nullifies your argument, though. You wanted to compare it to a smartphone, but the main point smartphones have in their favor and the main problem they cause on a societal basis is their convenience. Comparing them to a form of entertainment that is probably the least convenient doesn't make sense to me.
>Because I'll be in close proximity with them for half a year?
Unless they're being disruptive it literally doesn't matter. Otherwise it doesn't really change anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:13:58 No.11787632 Report

Quoted By: >>11787649

>>11787596
Literally what are you arguing against? That anon just said people should be able to do whatever they want so long as it keeps the physical and mental well-being of society intact. Your attempt at googling a smuggie and pretending to be clever only shows how retarted you are. You won’t be taking first class to Mars, you’ll be taking the short bus to the local elementary school

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:19:01 No.11787649 Report

Quoted By: >>11787657 >>11787661 >>11787668

>>11787614
Exactly, you shifted the goalposts to "but actually there wouldn't be enough space so it wouldn't matter anyway". If there's demand I'm sure people will figure out how to make it work.

>Unless they're being disruptive it literally doesn't matter. Otherwise it doesn't really change anything.
No one's disruptive until they are. What then? Why not prevent that situation from arising in the first place? Why not do any number of other activities? Are you that addicted?

>>11787632
Simple, I don't think that unlimited recreational VR is conducive to a mentally healthy society or crew. I've explained my reasoning for that position already

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:22:00 No.11787657 Report

Quoted By: >>11787686

>>11787649
>Why not prevent that situation from arising in the first place?
It's called screening. People who aren't mentally deficient don't suddenly get heefer madness because they like something you don't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:22:25 No.11787659 Report

Quoted By: >>11787672

the Dynetics lander is LOx-Methane
this enables some REAL BULLSHIT

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:22:44 No.11787661 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787649
>I don't think that unlimited recreational VR is conducive to a mentally healthy society or crew
You are on 4chan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:24:21 No.11787668 Report

Quoted By: >>11787686

>>11787649
With regards to VR, I don’t think it’s as addictive as you think it is. It’s a gimmick at best. NASA uses it for training now I believe, but the people going to Mars aren’t going to be on VR chat all day like the slobs here on Earth. You think people will be on VR 24/7 when it will already be a struggle to keep ship systems in check for 6 months and survive the fucking desolate landscape of MARS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:25:41 No.11787672 Report

Quoted By: >>11787681

>>11787659
Let’s fucking gooooo. ISRU will hopefully be tested. I hope the astronauts refuel their lander on the surface and yell Fuck Boeing before blasting off back to Gateway

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:28:22 No.11787681 Report

Quoted By: >>11787688

>>11787672
nah m8, eight refuelings in LEO and you can send a Starship to NRHO with enough drop tanks and fuel to send the Dynetics lander back and forth multiple times
Dynetics is perfectly sized for do-nothing reconnaissance missions and crew rotations in light of Starship

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:30:32 No.11787686 Report

Quoted By: >>11787704 >>11787873

>>11787657
How do you propose screening people for propensity to technological addiction? References from friends and family?

>>11787668
Lol I doubt it would be vr chat. Let's say the first manned missions would be in 2026. The people getting sent early on I'm not really concerned about. It's when people start going over en masse that standards start to slip, and maybe for the sake of discussion that would be a decade later. Look at where VR capability was ten years ago. The speed of advancement wouldn't be linear so in another 16 years what do you envisage VR being capable of? Not a rhetorical question, I'm curious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:31:25 No.11787688 Report

Quoted By: >>11787695 >>11787709 >>11788058

>>11787681
Sounds good to me. It’ll be a good test for on-surface refueling. While I’m at it can I ask if anyone knows how in-situ refueling would be done? What are the chemical reactions? How do we get from Moon rocks/Mars rocks to liquid oxygen and liquid methane?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:33:32 No.11787695 Report

Quoted By: >>11787738

>>11787688
>moon rocks -> methane
no fucking clue m8, we don't know where the moon's carbon is hiding. hydrogen and oxygen come out of the lunar ices
>mars rocks -> methane
Mars ice -> water -> hydrogen and oxygen
hydrogen + atmospheric carbon dioxide -> methane and oxygen

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:37:54 No.11787704 Report

Quoted By: >>11787718

>>11787686
>How do you propose screening people for propensity to technological addiction? References from friends and family?
I don't understand your constant obsession with peoples' private lives. If they're stable and functional and thus able to pass even a rudimentary screening/training course, clearly they aren't suffering from any serious addictive disorder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:40:05 No.11787709 Report

Quoted By: >>11787710 >>11787738 >>11788074

>>11787688
Depends what fuel cycle you use

Hydrogen is simple
>dig water ice up
>purify
>put in box and electrolyse H20 into H2 and 02
>separate and store

However Hydrogen is much, much harder to store and way harder on the equipment than Methane

>dig water ice up
>purify
>put in box and electrolyse H20 to H2 and O2
>separate and store O2
>Run H2 and compressed and purified CO2 from Martian atmosphere through box with platinum catalyst
>collect and store CH4

Methane on the moon is harder though because of no atmospheric CO2. You either take the hit on using hydrogen engines or figure out a source to exploit to make CO2, possibly some type of carbon deposits could be reacted in presence of O2, I'm not sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:41:31 No.11787710 Report

Quoted By: >>11787715

>>11787709
is hydrogen cyanide a good fuel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:42:18 No.11787715 Report

Quoted By: >>11787719

>>11787710
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:44:14 No.11787718 Report

Quoted By: >>11787724 >>11787727 >>11787734 >>11787737

>>11787704
You don't think Starship should have a shooting range and an open pharmacy and a bomb making station? Why are you obsessed with people's private lives?

It's called not being a naive retard who thinks that what people do alone can never have an impact on others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:44:23 No.11787719 Report

Quoted By: >>11787721

>>11787715
why not though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:44:56 No.11787721 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787719
not as much hydrogen as methane

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:45:56 No.11787724 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787718
if Mars doesn't have a shooting range I'm going to riot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:46:42 No.11787727 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787718
Wow you want to live in 1984

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:50:39 No.11787734 Report

Quoted By: >>11787873

>>11787718
>not keeping your shooting skills sharp in transit
a WELL TRAINED militia

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:51:56 No.11787737 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787718
Are you joking or just gay

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 00:52:07 No.11787738 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787695
>>11787709
Appreciate it. Very interesting stuff. The future is ISRU and methane engines

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 01:34:01 No.11787812 Report

Quoted By: >>11787821 >>11787842

>reinstall ksp
>20 minutes each time to launch game testing if mods are working now
KSP 2 WHEN AAAA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 01:39:13 No.11787821 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787812
>go to quit game
>wait 20 minutes while it attempts to close
>finally kill the unresponsive program in task manager
Literally every single time.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 01:49:08 No.11787842 Report

Quoted By: >>11787861 >>11787891

>>11787812
I think they should fundamentally redesign the parts system for KSP2. Parts made sense when KSP was a janky side project but now they're just cumbersome to use. It also doesn't make any sense how they moved away from the cartoon style fuel tanks to a more realistic style, but the stacking and fuel distribution still doesn't make any sense. Like what the actual fuck is pic related, you're telling me that carries both liquid fuel and o2?
KSP 2 should be designed around procedural tanks, but of course it'll just be a reskin of KSP with a billion parts to sift through for every diameter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 01:54:15 No.11787861 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787842
I really seriously hope they fundamentally absorb procedural parts into the base game, it's such a fucking great tool, and while I'm no modder or coder, surely it musn't be very difficult to implement. Same with tweakscale.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 01:56:25 No.11787867 Report

Quoted By: >>11787879 >>11787881

New thread, migrate pls

>>11787864
>>11787864
>>11787864

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 01:57:03 No.11787871 Report

Quoted By: >>11787890 >>11787894 >>11787950 >>11788078

Lava tubes or surface dwelling?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 01:57:25 No.11787872 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785390
they're gonna still be drafting up plans for the New Behnken while SpaceX is selling regular flights to Mars on Expedia

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 01:57:57 No.11787873 Report

Quoted By: >>11787894

>>11787445
>It's only a matter of time before china says fuck it and quadruples the budget of their space program
Right now their is no profit in space beyond LEO, so China won’t go their. Besides most of their aerospace industry is based on making fighter planes.
>>11787575
>not getting super drunk with friends so that people are able to talk to each other without getting board
If their isn’t beer on Mars no one will go their.
>>11787686
>what do you envisage VR being capable of?
Simulating sex fantasies of that girl in high school that you were to shy to talk to, better vidya, stuff people use computers for today.
>>11787734
Can’t wait for Eylongrad to defeat New Beijing after the US Space Force sends in the firth Space Marine Division as a “peacekeeping force.” Martian wars will be interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 01:59:03 No.11787879 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787867
>Page six
FUCKOFF

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 01:59:50 No.11787881 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787867
>page 6
Fucking tourists

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:01:00 No.11787885 Report

Quoted By:

remember to report new-thread makers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:02:01 No.11787890 Report

Quoted By: >>11789221

>>11787871
Can't really do surface dwelling on a planet with no atmosphere or substantial magnetosphere. I mean you can technically have above ground structures but to ensure total protection from radiation, especially during solar flares, everything will likely be covered in at least a meter of either loose dirt or more likely some kind of cement. Perhaps PROOOOOOONTED plastic/rock composite which is very strong for it's weight, or stacked electrically baked brick.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:02:03 No.11787891 Report

Quoted By: >>11787991 >>11788094

>>11787842
just give me ksp but with the part designing of children of a dead earth please fucking god
also give me children of a dead earth multiplayer PLEASE fucking god

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:02:12 No.11787894 Report

Quoted By: >>11787905 >>11788062

>>11787871
lava tubes are deathtraps, easier to make our own tunnels
>>11787873
Beer is too heavy, rum is where it's at

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:04:33 No.11787905 Report

Quoted By: >>11787912

>>11787894
I’ll have rum on my pirate starship

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:06:04 No.11787912 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787905
it's simply more mass efficient

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:09:44 No.11787921 Report

Quoted By: >>11787924 >>11787925 >>11787926 >>11787927 >>11787929 >>11787931 >>11787935 >>11787939

What just happened to the other thread? I was in the middle of writing a comment

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:10:30 No.11787924 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787921
mods removed it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:10:32 No.11787925 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787921
this one is only at page 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:10:31 No.11787926 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787921
It appears to have been rightly eviscerated by the mods

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:10:41 No.11787927 Report

Quoted By: >>11787949

>>11787921
I think the autist actually reported it and the autistic jannies actually responded.

MODS = FAGS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:10:50 No.11787929 Report

Quoted By: >>11787937

>>11787921
some autist mod deleted it for no reason despite this one being in freefall

imagine being like that

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:11:02 No.11787931 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787921
mods nuked it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:12:09 No.11787935 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787921
GIGABASED mods nuked a fucking retard OP's thread which was posted while this one is still on goddamn page 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:12:21 No.11787937 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787929
Wait till page 9/10 to make new thread.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:12:42 No.11787939 Report

Quoted By: >>11788021

>>11787921
The thread was probably made too soon. I think the unspoken rule is Page 9 at the earliest. Maybe page 7 if the old thread is dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:13:53 No.11787942 Report

Quoted By: >>11787955

>>11787940

New thread bitches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:13:59 No.11787943 Report

Quoted By:

>>11786943
Turbo encabulator.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:14:36 No.11787946 Report

Quoted By: >>11787952 >>11787958 >>11788100

tfw you will never wander the ruins of an ancient civilization on a far away planet

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:15:18 No.11787949 Report

Quoted By: >>11788072

>>11787927
>jannies delete an early made general within minutes
>yet they allow for /x/tier space hoaxers to post freely

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:15:22 No.11787950 Report

Quoted By: >>11787964 >>11788062

>>11787871
Getting back to the topic/reposting. Surface/trench/hole dwelling because it's the more generalizable solution. Colonizing lava tubes restricts you to locales that may not be ideal, and will probably require bespoke solutions. Not a good long or even medium term colonization strategy. Tunneling too, but that will require more advanced infrastructure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:15:34 No.11787952 Report

Quoted By: >>11787958

>>11787946
>tfw will never wander the ruins of an ancient civilization after returning to the place of mankind's birth

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:16:41 No.11787955 Report

Quoted By: >>11787959

>>11787942
just don't link it so the autistic lurkers don't follow you and report it for le reasons

pic related is mods ignoring the schizo posting but harshly enforcing general thread limits instantly

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:17:36 No.11787958 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787946
>>11787952
>you will never ruin a civilization and leave interesting ruins for some lizard people to find millions of years later

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:17:37 No.11787959 Report

Quoted By: >>11787974

>>11787955
>implying that the mods aren't the schizoposters themselves

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:18:27 No.11787964 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787950
There are probably locations on mars with cave systems that would make great colonies once said solutions aren't prohibitively difficult

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:20:36 No.11787974 Report

Quoted By: >>11788000

>>11787959
Sometimes i wonder if we'll ever get to mars if the schizo trend continues. each year millions of normies fall for internet misinformation and become full blown flat earthers

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:26:03 No.11787985 Report

Quoted By: >>11787995

>Rewatching Wall-E
>The Buy N Large ships are called Starliners
>The BnL CEO during Earth's evacuation is named Shelby

How did they know?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:28:54 No.11787991 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787891
I could see CoaDE multiplayer being a thing where you get one turn, the enemy gets another turn, until you finally get into battle and it stops being turn based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:30:53 No.11787995 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787985
Earth is actually the body of a God and it spoke of the future to Andrew Stanton

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:33:32 No.11788000 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787974
I think the schizo trend will continue like how Atlantis theories are still a thing despite the entire Atlantic floor being mapped with no sign of such a city.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:35:02 No.11788006 Report

Quoted By: >>11788015 >>11789289

Post your rate starship renders I need sustenance

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:36:45 No.11788011 Report

Quoted By: >>11788017 >>11788018 >>11788022 >>11788049 >>11788059

>Jannies clean up our new general because it's a bit early
>Meanwhile the catalog is filled with total junk tier threads

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:37:46 No.11788015 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788006

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:39:14 No.11788017 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788011
Why would the jannies delete their own threads?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:39:24 No.11788018 Report

Quoted By: >>11788025 >>11788037

>>11788011
The only reason to start threads early is to bring in more of the general trash that makes those shit threads, though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:40:40 No.11788021 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787939
>Unspoken
We are constantly bashing newfags for making new fucking threads too fucking early. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if it is just blatant trolling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:40:45 No.11788022 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788011
Only the good thread in seas of piss get attention.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:41:30 No.11788025 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788018
this is a good point. what is more important, however, is the fact the we know how quickly the mods can take care of shit. why the fuck are these electric universe flat earth people still around?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:46:46 No.11788037 Report

Quoted By: >>11788040

>>11788018
Or if the thread is dead quiet for over an hour. Which isn't the case now, but it has been the case previously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:48:46 No.11788040 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788037
Yeah the thread was quite for over an hour and as soon as a new thread gets created it immediately gets space-related posts, while this one gets flooded with people screaming about lurking and newfagging

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:49:03 No.11788041 Report

Quoted By: >>11788052

>>11787353
Only gigachads get to go to Mars anyway, which means they're going to be fucking tight pussy instead of fapping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:51:49 No.11788049 Report

Quoted By: >>11788185

>>11788011
>our new general
this general has been around for almost a year now. fuck off tourist

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:52:22 No.11788052 Report

Quoted By: >>11788092

>>11788041
Pussy will have to be rationed out. In the meantime, I M A G I N A T I O N

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:53:43 No.11788058 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787688
On the Moon you just ship your return methane with the lander, and use oxygen byproduct from iron smelting processes to refill your O2 tank, which by the way is ~75% of the total propellant mass of a methalox rocket.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:53:58 No.11788059 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788011
it really annoys me how people posting huge lists of varg videos don't get banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 02:54:23 No.11788062 Report

Quoted By: >>11788075

>>11787950
>>11787894
I think above ground structures connected by tunnels are the best option. Underground is going to be tough living over time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:00:00 No.11788072 Report

Quoted By: >>11788084 >>11788214 >>11788288

>>11787949
At least it isn't anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:00:28 No.11788074 Report

Quoted By: >>11788096

>>11787709
>Methane on the moon is harder though because of no atmospheric CO2. You either take the hit on using hydrogen engines or figure out a source to exploit to make CO2, possibly some type of carbon deposits could be reacted in presence of O2, I'm not sure.
The Moon is close enough that with Starship refuelings only you can do a round trip. Therefore, complete propellant ISRU is not a require capability, like on Mars. What this means is, as long as you can make oxygen on the Moon (which is a basic enough process, and oxides are abundant everywhere), you can save 3/4ths of your propellant mass shipping requirement needed to get back (you only send methane). Due to the mission profile, all of the oxygen mass you now DON'T need to bring directly translates into an equal mass of additional payload. For Starship in particular, oxygen production on the Moon means the payload capability to the Moon's surface goes from ~100 tons up to ~300 tons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:00:58 No.11788075 Report

Quoted By: >>11788103

>>11788062
>Underground is going to be tough living over time
it's not like above ground structures are going to be much different. you still can't have much in the way of window exposure due to radiation problems

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:02:09 No.11788078 Report

Quoted By: >>11788118

>>11787871
Artificial lava tubes

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:03:52 No.11788084 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788072
you realize that a solid 10% of all images posted in this thread are anime?
there, I just raised it above 10%

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:06:30 No.11788092 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788052
Mars will be for gigachads and the tradwives they need for inseminating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:06:42 No.11788094 Report

Quoted By: >>11788104

>>11787891
>272kg/s decane NTR
Using that thing within 1000km of an oxygen-bearing atmosphere would be a war crime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:07:02 No.11788096 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788074
>payload capability to the Moon's surface goes from ~100 tons up to ~300 tons.
Can't wait to see Moon SS nigger-rigged with strap-on payload bays.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:08:34 No.11788100 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787946
that's basically the USSR sadly
https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/infrastructure/g2710/amazing-photos-of-abandoned-soviet-infrastructure/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:09:07 No.11788103 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788075
The difference is you can look out the windows you do have and you have better ways to get natural light. Besides transparent materials could still block radiation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:09:10 No.11788104 Report

Quoted By: >>11788201

>>11788094
decane is just gasoline, you know that right

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:11:44 No.11788109 Report

Quoted By:

>>11785263
>same, shit should be banned
This, at least when I was coolerfagging (DBZ character for those who aren't autists like me), I was kinda trying to be funny and make a joke about how one rendition of that character was literally a humanoid version of starship.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:16:43 No.11788118 Report

Quoted By: >>11788119 >>11788124

>>11788078
I don't buy the underground meme, its too utilitarian for the US. I think something like the ice house or regolith covered concepts. Maybe printed structures or prefabbed structures, idk but i don't see too much tunneling outside of transportation/storage use.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:18:40 No.11788119 Report

Quoted By: >>11788137

>>11788118
>denounces crazy idea
>suggests even more ridiculous ideas instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:20:49 No.11788121 Report

Quoted By: >>11788125 >>11788134

Good thing NASA lurks on the /sfg/ threads and takes notes on all our bright ideas for building moonbases

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:21:24 No.11788124 Report

Quoted By: >>11788128 >>11788137 >>11788138

>>11788118
They will be choosing between staying crammed together but living inside shitty concept-art domes OR living in 2000 square foot apartments dug underground with sunlamp lighting and the ability to lock one's door.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:21:33 No.11788125 Report

Quoted By: >>11788128

>>11788121
Musk definitely does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:23:20 No.11788128 Report

Quoted By: >>11788165

>>11788124
God forbid the locals try to break in once we get to the Moon
>>11788125
Dangerously based

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:24:44 No.11788134 Report

Quoted By: >>11788160

>>11788121
>NASA building moonbases
It'll be NASA labels on commercial equipment.
There's probably some SpaceX interns around.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:26:19 No.11788137 Report

Quoted By: >>11788148

>>11788124
>>11788119
Why do you guys think an underground structure will be larger than an above ground one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:27:04 No.11788138 Report

Quoted By: >>11788170 >>11788171

>>11788124
>choose
Tunnelling basically produces its volume in excess building material. If you tunnel and don't also build above ground you're fucking retarded.
>tunnels are arbitrarily large
Yeah, that's why we all have basements the size of skyscrapers. It's just that easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:31:21 No.11788148 Report

Quoted By: >>11788180 >>11788183

>>11788137
I'm not against criticism of the lava tubes meme, but at least suggest something competent. The 3d printing meme will be cancelled when actual launches begin. It's just a popsci trope. I personally support inflatable homes. They're practically bulletproof and can easily be buried to provide radiation shielding. And unlike the proont meme, Dr. Bigelow has delivered his dosages. https://www.youtube.com/user/BigelowAerospace/videos

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:31:30 No.11788149 Report

Quoted By: >>11788159

so when's Jeff Who going to get those Sides built

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:33:56 No.11788159 Report

Quoted By: >>11788166

>>11788149
whospace eternally btfo when SpaceX Interplanetary builds the first o'neill cylinder with martian resources

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:34:27 No.11788160 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788134
That would be great if another company was created for mars/moon bases. Imagine a team of architects and engineers pushing concepts like spacex

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:35:33 No.11788165 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788128
>the locals
Yes, when the other people living in the colony with you who you find irritating and/or want to fucking strangle won't leave you alone, you can go to your nice hobbit hole and lock the sound proof airtight door.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:36:10 No.11788166 Report

Quoted By: >>11788182

>>11788159
>o'neill cylinder
Von Braun station.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:37:15 No.11788170 Report

Quoted By: >>11788184

>>11788138
I didn't say tunnels I said underground. That is to say, you dig an open-sky pit, fabricate your habitat in the pit, and stack all the excavated material on top of the habitat to provide shielding.
The advantage is that it's all the benefits of living in tunnels except wastes the least effort and goes the fastest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:37:28 No.11788171 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788138
>Yeah, that's why we all have basements the size of skyscrapers. It's just that easy.
You don't?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:40:31 No.11788180 Report

Quoted By: >>11788188 >>11788189

>>11788148
Bigelow is basically finished and NASA is pushing the 3d printing tech. I don't think SpaceX will print but NASA for sure will because for them hashing out the tech is more important than success o

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:41:08 No.11788182 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788166
Side

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:41:46 No.11788183 Report

Quoted By: >>11788196 >>11788197 >>11788219

>>11788148
Yeah, expandables or straight up inflatables are probably the easiest solution and will probably be the first used on the large scale. Hyper-expensive aluminum cans ala-ISS will never be deployed large-scale, they're far too inefficient. I'd go a sort of halfway point and make an inflatable balloon-like hab but with pseudo-rigid ribs that run through it to give it shape and rigidity once it's been pressurized. They could just be unfolding hollow aluminum tubes that snap together like tent spars. Super light, super easy to store, already very well understood from an engineering perspective, so easy anyone can build them with just a little practice.
If you want to keep it super simple you could even start with zip-airlocks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:42:23 No.11788184 Report

Quoted By: >>11788203

>>11788170
Oh, I misunderstood. I also prefer open pit or open trench structures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:42:53 No.11788185 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788049
Reading comprehension retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:43:59 No.11788188 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788180
Efficiency* not success

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:44:17 No.11788189 Report

Quoted By: >>11788208

>>11788180
Didn't SNC buy the inflatables IP though? Also, NASA is pushing SLS, and that thing is practically just a "jaaahbs" program.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:44:18 No.11788190 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787480
UPDATE: Public Notice of Cameron County Order to Temporarily Close State Highway 4 and Boca Chica Beach
>Backup Date June 12, 2020 12:00 p.m. – 1:00 p.m. Closure Scheduled

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:48:33 No.11788196 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788183
This. Even BEAM had a similar structure. Though the BA-330 did have a similar solution, by having the whole thing have metallic core running through it, housing the main computer and pressurization equipment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:48:46 No.11788197 Report

Quoted By: >>11788216 >>11788230

>>11788183
Carrying hab shielding all the way to the surface seems wasteful to me. Maybe for very very early pilot structures, but beyond that I would say compress local materials to make both structure and shielding. Then you only need simple bag-like inflatables to fill the space.

Alternatively, forego inflatables and bricks and just bend some stainless steel and dump shit on top of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:49:16 No.11788201 Report

Quoted By: >>11788206 >>11788217

>>11788104
Yes, and NTR exhaust temperature gasoline hitting air explodes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:49:18 No.11788202 Report

Quoted By:

besides, you've got to put Von Braun station on the Moon's surface

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:49:50 No.11788203 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788184
Based and agreeing with me pilled

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:50:20 No.11788206 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788201
not an issue, it'll mostly be free carbon and hydrogen at that point

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:51:09 No.11788208 Report

Quoted By: >>11788228

>>11788189
SNC had their own inflatable hab contemporary with the Bigelow habs.
It looks like a fucking scrote but one advantage it would have over the Bigelow habs is that by being much thinner in the wall it can pack to a much slimmer diameter. I think you'd need to add onto it afterward though to make it livable, a thicker layer of insulation and shielding.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:54:09 No.11788214 Report

Quoted By: >>11788223 >>11788224 >>11788228

>>11788072
Reminder

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:54:11 No.11788216 Report

Quoted By: >>11788226

>>11788197
Steel sheets can be punctured by the shit being dumped on it. Remember, Mars doesn't have much of an atmosphere to smooth out its soil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:54:15 No.11788217 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788201
>Mars colony is now self sufficient, huge operations of rockets take hundreds of thousands of people every synod
>Elon has his own ship in orbit "fist of god" ready to leave
>Waits for synod fleet to have left
>points ass end of gasoline NTR at the planet
>Fuck urf

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:54:42 No.11788219 Report

Quoted By: >>11788230

>>11788183
Thats where the printing meme becomes less of a meme, burying inflatables is smart but reinforcing the regolith with 3d printed ribbing is actually very smart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:55:02 No.11788220 Report

Quoted By: >>11788229 >>11788236

If you could fit an inflatable habitat with a diameter of, say, seven meters uninflated in the Starship payload bay, couldn’t you inflate it to be absolutely colossal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:55:45 No.11788223 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788214
Reminder that mods support bait threads for ad revenue?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:56:13 No.11788224 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788214
truly we are living in the best timeline

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:56:34 No.11788226 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788216
Won't be a problem with any decent thickness of steel, which you would need to hold up the weight anyway. Sharp regolith is abrasive, but not magic.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:57:01 No.11788228 Report

Quoted By: >>11788231

>>11788208
I'd say a middle ground between the stupid thickness of Bigelow's design and the thin design of SNC would be idea. Can withstand more than what would actually be attacking the habs, but not insanely thick.
>>11788214
>mods are moefags
>my CHAD of /a/ posting gets bawleeted even though meta CHADler is basically the perfect humanization of starship
Why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:57:03 No.11788229 Report

Quoted By: >>11788253

>>11788220
You could probably get a 20m diameter habitat yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:57:46 No.11788230 Report

Quoted By: >>11788242 >>11788255 >>11788261 >>11788263 >>11788693

>>11788197
Steel bending equipment is very large and baking bricks is very energy intensive (when you've got no conventional ovens and all your fuel has to be generated in situ) and you can't just let your waste heat drift away on the wind. In the very-near term sparred inflatables would be (in my estimation) the right combination of compact, cheap, and light while still giving you much larger workable internal volumes than you could ever get from tin can modules or even Starships. Consider that a Cargo moon starship could carry an inflatable module say 7m in diameter and 2/3s the length of it's payload bay, but if that module can expand to double it's initial diameter and length without collapsing (thanks to coming with a bundle of aluminum ribs) then once pressurized it could be 14m wide and probably something like 20-30m long.
>>11788219
To be honest I'm a bit of a PROOOOONTER myself, one of the primary reasons I advocate for pushing that tech into space is just to see if it can be forced into a state of maturity good enough to supersede older and more established methods of construction. Again though, specifically in the short term I'd advocate for ribbed inflatables, to establish large pressurized volumes fast, cheap, and easy.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:58:15 No.11788231 Report

Quoted By: >>11788263

>>11788228
have you considered posting:
A. better anime
B. something other than the word "chad" repeated over and over
C. Gundam is not moe anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 03:59:27 No.11788236 Report

Quoted By: >>11788243 >>11788300

>>11788220
Yes but then the burying process would be very tough

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:01:48 No.11788242 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788230
I like the idea of proooonting

However

It needs to be able to make large spaces solely from sintering sifted regolith, no additives, no fucking corn plastics or whatever, just regolith. It also needs to function as a solid building AND a pressure vessel, no shipments of pressure vessel required.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:01:50 No.11788243 Report

Quoted By: >>11788247 >>11788264

>>11788236
Ehhh we can dig big holes it’s nothing new for us

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:03:02 No.11788247 Report

Quoted By: >>11788254 >>11788264

>>11788243
Don't summon the excavator spastic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:04:37 No.11788253 Report

Quoted By: >>11788262 >>11788263

>>11788229
Well then why not do that to replace the ISS? Launch a bigass inflatable habitat then some support segments for docking ports, radiators, and solar panels and whatnot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:04:57 No.11788254 Report

Quoted By: >>11788260

>>11788247
anon we need excavators to feed our proonters

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:05:33 No.11788255 Report

Quoted By: >>11788263

>>11788230
>one of the primary reasons I advocate for pushing that tech into space is just to see if it can be forced into a state of maturity good enough to supersede older and more established methods of construction.
I agree and I think is the future of off world construction, we are already printing rocket engines and space helmets that are being used in irl applications. The printing competition was actually really valuable because it showed the potential of the materials and what ways the printing could be done. Sure its memey tech but the concepts are legitimate and if you put real R&D into it you will get much more legitimate and much less memey habits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:06:22 No.11788260 Report

Quoted By: >>11788268 >>11788484

>>11788254
I know but according to the buttplug shit poster you don't

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:07:20 No.11788261 Report

Quoted By: >>11788323

>>11788230
>baking bricks is very energy intensive (when you've got no conventional ovens and all your fuel has to be generated in situ)
Mars soil can be compressed into brick, straight, no baking.
Moon bricks would need to be baked. Less efficient, but still works, and solar is easier on the moon. You would need radiators, yes.
>Steel bending equipment is very large
Take a pre-shaped stack. One Starship's worth would probably get you the facility to hold that equipment.
>very-near term
Like I said, I could see conventional inflatables used for the very first structures. This is after you have a pilot base up to work from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:07:27 No.11788262 Report

Quoted By: >>11788269

>>11788253
Cause we don’t have starship yet. Imho future space stations should be built with inflatable modules, with an exoskeleton built around the outside for extra thermal control and micrometeroid protection. I have an idea, i’ll draw it out later but I’ll probably post it in the next thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:07:31 No.11788263 Report

Quoted By: >>11788272 >>11788276 >>11788300 >>11788325

>>11788230
Tbh I don't know why I was so rabid about the proonting. I guess it's because it was basically a plebbit concept? Some popsci shit? I mean, I once though inflatables were fucking stupid, but Dr. Bigelow delivered and changed my mind. Maybe a different private company can actually make PROONTing work?
>>11788231
Well, I would post TF: Armada, but that one doesn't get memed nearly as much as the gigachads of /a/'s source. And besides, do you have a character that PERFECTLY encapsulates the design process of Starship?
Meta Cooler, at least his race, is undoubtedly the basis of the future starship waifu coomers will get off too.
>any damage is immediately fixed by the control center and any flaws that could cause said damage are corrected
>tons and tons of copies are made
>explodes upon death
>is SUPER shiny
>>11788253
Bigelow Aerospace was basically killed.
>>11788255
Yeah, but for safety, I suggest printing over an inflatable. Will basically provide an exoskeleton for the hab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:07:33 No.11788264 Report

Quoted By: >>11788273 >>11788277 >>11788278

>>11788243
We haven't in low g, there are problems that could arise.
>>11788247
He is worse than the proonters by far

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:08:37 No.11788268 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788260
I don't know what the anti-proonting fag and the anti-excavator fag have up their butts but they should get that looked at
proonters reduce the mass you need to bring from Earth by letting you create pressure vessels in-situ
excavators enable that to scale without additional shipments from earth

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:09:06 No.11788269 Report

Quoted By: >>11788274

>>11788262
Inflatable habitats are already more resistant towards impacts than the tin cans, but more is always better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:10:19 No.11788272 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788263
>Yeah, but for safety, I suggest printing over an inflatable. Will basically provide an exoskeleton for the hab.
I'm sure it will happen but i think they would be stupid not to test a print only hab

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:10:41 No.11788273 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788264
>We haven't in low g, there are problems that could arise.

...No? It’d be even easier because you need less energy to move stuff up and away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:11:12 No.11788274 Report

Quoted By: >>11788282 >>11788286

>>11788269
I keep hearing this but idk my brain can’t accept it. Tbh I’d be kinda anxious living in an inflatable habitat, but it does have benefits. Don’t the ISS tin cans come with a shield that eviscerates micrometerites- how could something inflatable habs be better at protection?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:11:38 No.11788276 Report

Quoted By: >>11788294

>>11788263
A. proonting is good
B. well first off, Starship is not some noncanon b movie villain, Starship is the hero of this story
also yes please post more Optimus Prime
c. Bigelow Aerospace committed suicide, fuck Bob
>proonting AND inflatamemes at the same time
D. I hate you so much

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:11:44 No.11788277 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788264
>spreading FUD about a fucking bucket
This is why I hate proonters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:12:05 No.11788278 Report

Quoted By: >>11788285

>>11788264
>massively over engineered digging robot has 3,009 hydraulic lines that have to be carefully monitored by over 500 unique sensors (for the contractors of course)
>doesn't deploy digging arm correctly because they forgot to shield some electric component adequately against dust kicked up by the lander

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:12:40 No.11788282 Report

Quoted By: >>11788283 >>11788287 >>11788294

>>11788274
you can inflate the shield too
inflate everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:13:31 No.11788283 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788282
Based and balloonpilled

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:13:42 No.11788285 Report

Quoted By: >>11788297 >>11788308

>>11788278
I'm sure CAT has some recommendations about shielding a lunar excavator for you
they make shit for working men

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:13:45 No.11788286 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788274
>I keep hearing this but idk my brain can’t accept it.
It's mostly because tin cans are fucking garbage.
A standard inflatable would not be acceptable as a long term surface base. It's just to get your foot in the door.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:13:47 No.11788287 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788282
>inflatable printers

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:14:02 No.11788288 Report

Quoted By: >>11788293

>>11788072
Cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:14:28 No.11788291 Report

Quoted By:

Look now you cunts have fucking summoned him

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:15:10 No.11788293 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788288
me irl

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:15:11 No.11788294 Report

Quoted By: >>11788301

>>11788276
Of course starship isn't a noncanon movie villain, but it, or at least its design process shares the traits that made said villain fucking awesome.
>>11788282
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:15:37 No.11788297 Report

Quoted By: >>11788301

>>11788285
If I remember correctly, CAT attended a private meeting with SpaceX a few years back.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:16:21 No.11788300 Report

Quoted By: >>11788309 >>11788317

>>11788236
You could put together something like a mini-bagger, solar-electric powered. Mount it on a conventional scoop excavator frame modified as needed for vacuum operation. Fold it up as much as it can be folded and simply chuck it to the Moon on a Starship.
Consider something like a CAT 307.5, it's only ten tons and only requires 55 horsepower to operate here in 1G. You would swap out all of the hydraulics for high torque brushless electric motors and you could easily run it from a Tesla car battery. Normally it can dig down to 15 feet or only about 4 meters, double the length of the arm and it can dig down up to 8 meters, and with the high torque of a brushless motor driven excavator I'd imagine it could easily cast lunar soil far outside of the dig. This would very neatly let you bury 16m diameter habs exactly halfway into the Lunar surface, cover them with meters thick shells of Lunar dirt and have plenty left over for other uses (like say baking into solid slabs for a permanent landing site)
>>11788263
I can understand being put off by ledditors and popsci fags fawning over something, but you shouldn't let what they like dictate what you hate. They coom over fusion power too, but I also want it to be advanced as soon as possible in spite of having little in common with them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:16:24 No.11788301 Report

Quoted By: >>11788319

>>11788294
A. Cooler is not awesome
B. thank you
>>11788297
probably talking about the designs that NASA commissioned and such
they've absolutely got a lock on this if I'm reading the tea leaves correctly

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:17:41 No.11788308 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788285
>CAT and SpaceX joint projects result in this being real
Can't wait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:17:40 No.11788309 Report

Quoted By: >>11788328

>>11788300
>solar electric
have a solar panel on it for kicks and emergency power but make it plug-in electric powered

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:19:46 No.11788317 Report

Quoted By: >>11788319 >>11788332 >>11788701

>>11788300
oh, and I forgot: you need to heavily ballast anything working in low gravity in order to achieve the same speed as on the Earth's surface

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:21:42 No.11788319 Report

Quoted By: >>11788324 >>11788326

>>11788301
>Cooler is not awesome
>>11788317
I do imagine a bunch of martian boulders could do the job. Remember, CAT's consumer base is men who think with simple solutions, just have trays that could have rocks and stuff stored for weight purposes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:23:04 No.11788323 Report

Quoted By: >>11788331 >>11788392

>>11788261
>Take a pre-shaped stack. One Starship's worth would probably get you the facility to hold that equipment.
This is my issue with 3D printing for structures, you can make have far better quality control on Earth and flatpack it down to negligible size. Modern construction methods are fine and there's no need for unique shapes. The individual parts for a normal house fit into a tiny space, it's a solution without a problem.
Print emergency repair parts and various novel items not thought needed before. Leave habs alone with that shit, it's way too risky in the beginning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:23:08 No.11788324 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788319
>CAT's consumer base is men who think with simple solutions, just have trays that could have rocks and stuff stored for weight purposes.
Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTuTGGTMzqk

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:23:23 No.11788325 Report

Quoted By: >>11788331

>>11788263
>it was basically a plebbit concept? Some popsci shit
it isn't though, the dragon escape engines are 3d printed, their flight suit helmets are 3d printed, rocketlabs engines for their electron rockets are 3d printed. NASA and the ESA are looking into the tech for space construction. We will need some form of printer there either way because of the versatility, there will be s lot of little shit that would be a pain to construct without it. Sure the concepts are popsci level but the printing itself isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:24:12 No.11788326 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788319
yes to both of your points
Cooler is, in fact, cringe
the only Cool thing that Cooler ever did was in the abridged series version of the movie where he said "at least I'll always be... Cooler"
and I've always been an advocate for ISRU ballast for all vehicles, especially cranes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:24:28 No.11788328 Report

Quoted By: >>11788338

>>11788309
Yeah, that's what I meant to say. You'd have a bank of battery packs hooked up to a little radiator fin (to keep them cool as they cycle) and a solar panel field, the excavator would return to it regularly to top off it's own internal powerpack. Some parts of it could be made lighter, like the arm and excavators, I'd probably do them out of Alite (magnesium/aluminum alloy, very cheap, very very light, stronger than normal aluminum and pretty heat tolerant and easy to work with), while parts of the body normally made of aluminum could be done in steel instead, both to reduce cost and to help counterbalance what would be (on Earth) a cartoonishly elongated tool arm.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:26:03 No.11788331 Report

Quoted By: >>11788339 >>11788392

>>11788325
I suppose. It's probably the whole new age artfagging that'd fit a glade product better that gets me. And as >>11788323 said, proonting habitats entirely is basically a "if it aint broke don't fix it" situation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:26:23 No.11788332 Report

Quoted By: >>11788338

>>11788317
RIP all my rovers that exploded on the Mun because I went 30kmh over a one foot bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:29:36 No.11788338 Report

Quoted By: >>11788342

fun fact: the abridged series Cooler movie got me laid
>>11788328
>make it out of aluminum/magnesium wonder metal
fuck you and fuck the horse you rode in on, oldspace shill
make it out of steel so that honest men can work on it and commonality with existing earth infrastructure
>>11788332
the fast wheels have enough suspension travel to survive ridiculous jumps if you have the reaction wheels necessary to control your attitude

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:29:36 No.11788339 Report

Quoted By: >>11788355 >>11788422

>>11788331
I didn't like the artsy inside of the AIspacefactory habs either, however that can easily be optimized by autists who are more interested in actually getting as much bang for your plastic as possible, rather than making it look """unique""". I'm impressed by the basalt/polymer shell and how exceptionally durable it objectively proved itself to be during the torture test. People also complain about how you'd have to bring the plastic component at least, however I have to ask, if we're still going to be anal retentive about weight and payloads, what's the point of Starship? Starships can easily carry the PROOONTING rover body and probably multiple tanks of both component materials.
That might not be as efficient in the long term, but it's miles better than setting up corn farms on fucking MARS before you even have habs, and using piddly little drone rovers to dig up a few kilos of basalt dust at a time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:30:38 No.11788342 Report

Quoted By: >>11788349

>>11788338
Alite is far superior to the lithium/aluminum alloy used in a lot of current aerospace shit. The whole purpose of it is to be cheap and easy to manufacture with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:33:23 No.11788349 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788342
it is as soft as your asscheeks bitch boy
fight me, Erebus Montes, five sols from now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:35:37 No.11788355 Report

Quoted By: >>11788360 >>11788441

>>11788339
Because you still want as much bang for buck as possible on every starship because your window is once every two years. This means only sending equipment that exclusively utilises martian materials, initial settlers live in starships for a few more months.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:37:12 No.11788360 Report

Quoted By: >>11788377

>>11788355
Why not send a fleet of Starships? Prepare many of them in LEO, five, ten, a dozen, as many as you need to immediately set up a large operation. Sacrifice autismal levels of efficiency for accelerated productivity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:37:23 No.11788361 Report

Quoted By: >>11788401

Why does aluminium not have a fatigue limit like steel? Material science is always cucking us out of cool shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:38:20 No.11788366 Report

Quoted By: >>11788371

Mars launch window so close starfrens.
Wondering if it's going to be China or UAE going first.
UAE going July 14th

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:39:13 No.11788371 Report

Quoted By: >>11788384 >>11788401 >>11788408

>>11788366
China will RUD on the pad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:40:33 No.11788377 Report

Quoted By: >>11788441

>>11788360
If you were wanting to do that then bringing starships full of plastic is the last thing you would do. Starships still act as a perfectly useable base.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:44:23 No.11788384 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788371
Truth

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:48:25 No.11788392 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788331
>>11788323
Fair but you don't want to rely on earth for long, that is why you want to get this tech to maturity. If you can figure out printing to a level of precision that leaves little error then you can build on mars sustainability without the need for a large amount of manpower. Doing it right away is a good way to start ironing out the kinks, with a starship you have the capacity to bring a few different methods to the planet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:51:06 No.11788401 Report

Quoted By: >>11788403

>>11788361
Materials science is a slow steady march, getting something from a lab to actual production isn't easy. Basically all the funding and talent goes into battery tech now too.
t. Nanoscience fag
>>11788371
Eh the 3B has a 95% success rate doesn't it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:51:52 No.11788403 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788401
yeah, I'm currently predicting an aeroentry failure for this one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:53:35 No.11788408 Report

Quoted By: >>11788411

>>11788371
what is the problem with chinese rockets? poor design or bad quality control?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:54:47 No.11788411 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788408
Both plus typical Chinese engineering shenanigans.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:57:27 No.11788422 Report

Quoted By: >>11788425 >>11788428 >>11788429

>>11788339
The problem is you don't want it to be too utilitarian. Thats why the artsy shit is that inner shell, i disagree with the design but you don't want the ISS type of internal structure because you will be living there for a longer period of time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:58:52 No.11788425 Report

Quoted By: >>11788458

>>11788422
ISS internal structure has a place and time and it is not in your sleeping quarters, yes
lab facilities will always look like that, however

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:59:20 No.11788428 Report

Quoted By: >>11788458 >>11788476

>>11788422
What’s the optimal interior and the optimal exterior? I’m interested in your idea anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 04:59:20 No.11788429 Report

Quoted By: >>11788458

>>11788422
Oh yeah, I mean it would definitely need a pleasant aesthetic, I just don't think the AISF design was the right one, it was far too "modern art", to the point where there appeared to be a lot of wasted space, not something you want in a habitat no matter what aesthetic you go with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:03:00 No.11788441 Report

Quoted By: >>11788469

>>11788355
>>11788377
The good thing about that design is it didn't take much of that material to make. Also remember it is a pitched concept, I'm sure the material scientists at NASA or elsewhere could find a similar material that they could make on mars with less required shipping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:07:20 No.11788458 Report

Quoted By: >>11788463 >>11788495

>>11788429
Yeah you definitely want as much space as possible
>>11788428
I honestly don't know yet, something probably bright and textured. Psychological design needs to be researched.
>>11788425
>lab facilities will always look like that, however
Yes but you will want Your habs and your labs separate on mars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:08:31 No.11788461 Report

Quoted By: >>11788524

>muh low gravity effects oh no muh chilluns what about the jellybabyarinos

Reminder that a Gee train is a simple concept that bypasses all this bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:08:43 No.11788463 Report

Quoted By: >>11788470 >>11788480

>>11788458
>I honestly don't know yet, something probably bright and textured
Bright pink and pulsating. You're trapped in a giant monster's stomach and there's no breathable air outside.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:09:54 No.11788469 Report

Quoted By: >>11788494 >>11788523

>>11788441
Its fucking plastic mate, PLA, good luck finding that on Mars. You could make it at great energy expense with an existing industrial base I guess lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:10:12 No.11788470 Report

Quoted By: >>11788504

>>11788463
>Inside Jabu Jabu’s Belly

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:11:28 No.11788476 Report

Quoted By: >>11788483 >>11788497 >>11788508

>>11788428
Not him, but am I wrong? A minimum of sharp hard edges, blocky enough to be solid without looking oppressive like the inside of a factory or office, off-white walls and surfaces let color coded vital stuff stand out without being harsh like the Iphone aesthetic that Dragon 2 Crew Boogaloo has. Relatively gentle slightly yellow lighting reminiscent of natural daylight, hopefully it will help foster a healthy sleep schedule as opposed to harsh blue/white light which would tend to keep people awake too long. Have the lighting start off dim and very orange in the morning and afternoon and ramp up to "full" for midday, it will help the crew have a sense of time even if they're not doing EVAs and are stuck inside most of the time.
Plenty of utility too, squared off and blocky internal surfaces can include many cabinets, closets, lockers and other storage spaces.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:12:01 No.11788480 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788463
Dangerously based design work

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:13:04 No.11788483 Report

Quoted By: >>11788492 >>11788495

>>11788476
>off-white walls

Mcmansionfags stay on earth, real chads will use a wood veneer finish.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:13:04 No.11788484 Report

Quoted By: >>11788532

>>11788260
mars plug shitposter here, the conversation in this thread is all i ever wanted. Open discussion about the future of mars infrastructure. Thanks anons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:14:24 No.11788492 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788483
I don’t think they saw the need to add wood veneer to a tugboat with a crew that sleeps nearly 24/7.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:16:02 No.11788494 Report

Quoted By: >>11788583

>>11788469
>PLA, good luck finding that on Mars.
Yeah, seriously, they can barely reach Earth orbit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:16:18 No.11788495 Report

Quoted By: >>11788512 >>11788533

>>11788458
Bright colors tend to be stressful or at least stimulating, if the walls are going to be colorful they should be de-saturated so they aren't too garish. Pale blue, green, or beige, I'd lean towards blue or green or bluegreen since the colonists would see precious little of it everywhere else on Mars.
>>11788483
I talked about that in a previous thread actually, I thought it would be a good idea to have at least faux wood with a slightly rough tactile texture, since until large scale greenhouses start producing the first trees, import wood is all the colonists will have to feel and live around for probably at least a good score of years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:17:03 No.11788497 Report

Quoted By: >>11788527

>>11788476
I'm not sure if i would like soft edges, it almost makes me feel claustrophobic. Our houses on earth are all sharp edges and hard surfaces

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:18:48 No.11788504 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788470
I hated that level so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:20:03 No.11788508 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788476
I would prefer harder edges. It would remind me of “normal” houses back on Earth. I would love to see something 2001-ish

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:20:30 No.11788512 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788495
i guess i mean light, colors that increase the level of natural light would be good. I think you are right on blues and greens, beige would be suicide level of depression i think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:22:56 No.11788523 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788469
>Its fucking plastic mate
So use your plastic waste in the printers, they made it out of corn, also plastic beads wouldn't take up that much payload space.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:23:06 No.11788524 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788461
it is known, thank you anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:24:13 No.11788527 Report

Quoted By: >>11788535

>>11788497
Yeah, it's not optimal for space conservation either obviously, since curves take up more room. I'd still prefer it over hard edges, just for a change of pace. You aren't wrong though, making it look as much like a normal home as possible might be the desirable path to go down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:26:03 No.11788532 Report

Quoted By: >>11788559

>>11788484
I still can't get the justification for the shape in this mockup? It seems like such a massive waste of material. Why not make it as spherical as possible? Is it radiation thing?
A geodesic dome is both stronger while needing far less material.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:26:15 No.11788533 Report

Quoted By: >>11788543 >>11788547

>>11788495
>faux wood
Maybe for the floors, you don't want brown all over when your entire landscape is reddish brown, you'll feel trapped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:26:41 No.11788535 Report

Quoted By: >>11788541

>>11788527
No don't make it a 2.4m ceiling off white box fucking reeeeeeeee

New planet

New architecture

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:27:38 No.11788541 Report

Quoted By: >>11788552

>>11788535
2.2m ceiling lightgreen box please

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:28:31 No.11788543 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788533
Yeah, I was thinking mostly for trim, surfaces you'd be putting your hands on a lot.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:28:45 No.11788547 Report

Quoted By: >>11788564

>>11788533
>all wood is brown

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:30:14 No.11788552 Report

Quoted By: >>11788567

>>11788541
ENOUGH

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:33:03 No.11788559 Report

Quoted By: >>11788577

>>11788532
>A geodesic dome is both stronger while needing far less material.
No its not stronger, they picked this design for the strength and it held up in the torture test over the second best design.
>https://youtu.be/axnuLepJufs
Here it is at 1:45 being tested. Its unironically very effective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:35:46 No.11788564 Report

Quoted By: >>11788714

>>11788547
>posts light brown wood.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:36:42 No.11788567 Report

Quoted By: >>11788576 >>11788578

>>11788552
>2m even light beige box with Iphone-looking interfaces with cheap harsh white LED lighting.
Yes, I'd like the "first suicide within a week of landing" package please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:39:08 No.11788576 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788567
how about this:
you obviously live in a 4.4m tube that's been sectioned off into nearly square rooms and hallways with slightly curving outer edges
there's either storage space or service infrastructure in the floor and ceiling
the airlock is a sphincter
you live in an anus

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:39:13 No.11788577 Report

Quoted By: >>11788594 >>11788842

>>11788559
Why does this keep getting posted it looks like a fucking turd floating down the sewer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:39:19 No.11788578 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788567
My sides are on a soyuz

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:40:26 No.11788583 Report

Quoted By: >>11788587

>>11788494
>your space program doesn't drop hypergolics on villagers
ngmi

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:42:25 No.11788586 Report

Quoted By: >>11788621 >>11788644

A
FUCKING
TRIANGLE
https://twitter.com/eROSITA_SRG/status/1260512194065772546
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:43:12 No.11788587 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788583
Contemplate the hypergolic aroma.
Yes, quite lung scorching my dear.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:44:38 No.11788594 Report

Quoted By: >>11788607

>>11788577
because its the most recent thing we have on the subject, a lot of mars habitat models were pitched and these 2 were tested irl, it gave us a lot of info and made printing look very credible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:51:12 No.11788607 Report

Quoted By: >>11788613

>>11788594
Please define “cre•di•ble”
A group of dorks 3D printing a scale model with NASA grant money at their local university doesn’t count

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:53:18 No.11788613 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788607
Please read the material and watch the concepts/competition before commenting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:55:48 No.11788621 Report

Quoted By: >>11788624 >>11788644

>>11788586
ughhh what

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 05:56:20 No.11788624 Report

Quoted By: >>11788644

>>11788621
I DON'T KNOW BUT THERE'S A TRIANGLE AND IT'S IN SPACE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:05:50 No.11788644 Report

Quoted By: >>11788646 >>11788673

>>11788586
>>11788621
>>11788624
newfags can't triforce

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:06:33 No.11788646 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788644
I CAN'T BELIEVE /b/ WAS THE ALIENS ALL ALONG

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:13:42 No.11788660 Report

Quoted By: >>11788666 >>11788669 >>11788719

THIS JUST IN! The Department of Energy has delivered plutonium to the 2020 Plutonium hog! That's right, a mission that will experience significant insolation will use a good deal of NASA's precious plutonium! Rather than going to a dark sunless crater, lava tube, or the outer solar system it's going to a dirty inner planet.
https://www.energy.gov/ne/articles/nuclear-power-system-delivered-florida-nasa-s-perseverance-rover

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:16:12 No.11788666 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788660
This wouldn't be a problem if we built more breeder reactors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:16:35 No.11788669 Report

Quoted By: >>11788677

>>11788660
why don't they purify and process their plutonium?
they act like they can't filter out the decay products to improve the watts/kg and once made a set of plutonium is fated to eternally become lower and lower quality

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:17:13 No.11788673 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788644
?
? ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:19:12 No.11788677 Report

Quoted By: >>11788679 >>11788723

>>11788669
>why don't they purify and process their plutonium?
>and then put it on rockets
Probably because that's indistinguishable from a nuclear weapons development program. Arms reduction treaties are the biggest gay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:20:18 No.11788679 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788677
>indistinguishable from a nuclear weapons program
you don't need to centrifuge it, you can do chemical removals
that type of plutonium isn't even fissionable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:25:45 No.11788693 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788230
>Steel bending equipment is very large
Not for the thicknesses you need for a 2 bar max internal pressure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:29:25 No.11788701 Report

Quoted By: >>11788703 >>11788707

>>11788317
just attach baskets onto your vehicles and fill them with sand

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:30:13 No.11788703 Report

Quoted By: >>11788728

>>11788701
yes thank you that is the third time that solution has been mentioned and I mostly agree with it
making pig iron bars out of regolith is also acceptable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:31:15 No.11788707 Report

Quoted By: >>11788733

>>11788701
>not PROONTING molten basalt slabs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:32:16 No.11788710 Report

Quoted By:

I've got the new thread this time

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:33:50 No.11788714 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788564
He could have at least posted bloodwood or purple heartwood

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:35:20 No.11788719 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788660
Damn, I kinda don't care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:36:26 No.11788723 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788677
>Pu-238
>nuclear weapon's fuel
Stop posting, go to wikipedia right now, and read every article about fission and fissile isotopes, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:38:51 No.11788728 Report

Quoted By: >>11788734 >>11788737

>>11788703
Don't waste your easy iron (I assume you mean melting meteorites picked up off of the ground) on ballast, you're not trying to set any records for density. Use that shit for better purposes, like casting big machine parts (surprisingly not as difficult as one may think, as long as you overbuild and your part only needs to meet decent tolerances in a couple of areas).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:39:54 No.11788733 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788707
Takes so much energy and time. Why scoop a specific type of mineral into the hopper of a printer to be melted and extruded and cooled when you can just scoop whatever's closest to your landing site into a box?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:40:09 No.11788734 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788727
>>11788727
>>11788727
>>11788727
I made a new thread

>>11788728
regolith is a good part high quality iron ore (hematite and such)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:41:22 No.11788737 Report

Quoted By: >>11788778

>>11788728
>don't need to set any density records
I assume you haven't seen how large crane counterweights are, then
you absolutely need your counterweights to be as dense as possible, but you won't need to get much better than compressed regolith for quite a while

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 06:53:20 No.11788778 Report

Quoted By: >>11788808

>>11788737
I was under the impression we were talking about Earthmovers here, meaning vehicles that on Earth are already plenty heavy for what they do, but on Mars or the Moon could use the extra weight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 07:03:02 No.11788808 Report

Quoted By: >>11788814

>>11788778
let's take this up in the next thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 07:03:47 No.11788814 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788808
I'm already there

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 07:15:32 No.11788842 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788577
Because it was approved by NASA and its creators got 500k$ price for the design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 08:35:12 No.11788994 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787162
I won't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 10:48:51 No.11789221 Report

Quoted By:

>>11787890
> no temporary magnetosphere space weather umbrella
amateurs

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jun 2020 11:27:26 No.11789289 Report

Quoted By:

>>11788006

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