Double Slit Experiment
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Whenever the double slit experiment is brought up, I hear two explanations for the collapsing of the wave function. Both are wrong and it pisses me off. People frequently say that the wave function collapsed "because you measured it".
This statement has two interpretations that are both wrong. The first is from the woo-woo crowd such as in "What the Bleep". They emphasize it by saying "because YOU measured it", implying that human consciousness awareness is what causes it. Likewise, you have the physicists who don't like woo-woo and want to debunk that statement who try to explain it away. The problem is they oversimplify it to the point where their counterpoint is also completely wrong. They emphasize the response by saying "because you MEASURED it", implying that the act or method of measurement itself interferes with the photons or electronics and because you messed with it, you'll never be able to get that measurement in it's natural state.
Both of these are wrong. The woo-woo explanation is wrong for obvious reasons. However the measurement argument is wrong because of the delayed choice quantum eraser experiment, a follow-up experiment that few people seem to know about that proves that having a detector is not the reason the wave function collapses. If it were the reason, then the quantum eraser wouldn't work.
Next time someone asks why the wave function collapses, don't say "because you measured it". Instead, say "because the path became determined". Put another way, "When the path of photons or electrons is determined, they behave deterministically. When the path of photons or electrons is ambiguous, they behave ambiguously".
This statement has two interpretations that are both wrong. The first is from the woo-woo crowd such as in "What the Bleep". They emphasize it by saying "because YOU measured it", implying that human consciousness awareness is what causes it. Likewise, you have the physicists who don't like woo-woo and want to debunk that statement who try to explain it away. The problem is they oversimplify it to the point where their counterpoint is also completely wrong. They emphasize the response by saying "because you MEASURED it", implying that the act or method of measurement itself interferes with the photons or electronics and because you messed with it, you'll never be able to get that measurement in it's natural state.
Both of these are wrong. The woo-woo explanation is wrong for obvious reasons. However the measurement argument is wrong because of the delayed choice quantum eraser experiment, a follow-up experiment that few people seem to know about that proves that having a detector is not the reason the wave function collapses. If it were the reason, then the quantum eraser wouldn't work.
Next time someone asks why the wave function collapses, don't say "because you measured it". Instead, say "because the path became determined". Put another way, "When the path of photons or electrons is determined, they behave deterministically. When the path of photons or electrons is ambiguous, they behave ambiguously".
