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Is Alcohol deadlier than Heroin?

Anonymous Sun 31 May 22:03:48 2020 No.11750487 View Reply Original Report

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I see these images all over the internet, are they true?

They were made by a prominent British scientist who was fired for saying that Ecstasy is harmless

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 22:11:10 No.11750514 Report

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Yeah

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 22:13:34 No.11750524 Report

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If you had access to pure heroin, clean needles, and were able to control your dosage-- yes. Alcohol rips apart your insides

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 22:15:37 No.11750531 Report

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>>11750487
Your chart says heroin in deadlier than alcohol, learn to read.

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 22:34:36 No.11750597 Report

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>>11750487
Yes, alcohol is unuronically one of the most awful drugs out there. It's hilarious how many self righteus boomers look down on people using (relatively) harmless drugs like acid or shrooms even though they themselves drink a bottle of nerve poison every evening.

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 22:47:29 No.11750646 Report

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>>11750487
I think focusing on the drugs is mostly misleading most people kill themselves with bad diet and medications etc. It’s harder to get these numbers, because it isn’t as easy as an overdose and clear cut deaths caused by drugs but in total life years lost too much sun bathing, very unhealthy diet, bad living conditions and too much prescribed/ over the counter medications are much worse. Many drug users just kill themself with the substance knowingly or while trying to medicate a health condition.

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 22:56:03 No.11750685 Report

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>>11750487
Seems like some of those scores could only be measured by total impact on society as opposed to impact per user (community costs, crime, etc.). It would stand to reason that alcohol would have a disproportionate impact due to its widespread presence in human culture compared to other drugs.

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 23:35:06 No.11750828 Report

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>>11750685
I gave my response >>11750646, but I agree this is what I also thought about including. The measurement of how bad a drug is isn’t easy. Especially given the old approach to toxicology is mostly dead since next to nobody except rare cases of accidents and suicide attempts will show up with the exposure level to one substance being the problem. It’s mostly about added toxicity effects of a group of substances like in the case of aerotoxic syndrome or people being being prescribed twenty different medications on which combined effects no study was ever done. “General“ “harm“ is a question of how widely the substance is used, how easy you can get too much of it and how it interacts with other substances you are exposed to.

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Anonymous Mon 01 Jun 2020 00:02:38 No.11750893 Report

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>>11750487
>amphetamine more dangerous than benzos
High grade bullshit.

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Anonymous Mon 01 Jun 2020 12:01:52 No.11752097 Report

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>>11750487
Just looking at your picture tells you why. Alcohol makes people violent, ecstasy does not.

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Anonymous Mon 01 Jun 2020 17:03:28 No.11752753 Report

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>>11750893
I want to add to this post: while I am semi-addicted to amphetamines, I don't go around murdering people like how my sister's benzo addicted husband did to her.

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Anonymous Mon 01 Jun 2020 17:07:59 No.11752759 Report

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>>11750685
Well that is made clear in the graph itself. What isn't laid out is the amount of drug consumed to produce these values. If the drugs were compared per kg of consumption, then alcohol would be dead last in this comparison.

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Anonymous Mon 01 Jun 2020 17:08:50 No.11752763 Report

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>>11752753
They both have the potential to cause erratic behavior, it just depends on the individual. From a physical health standpoint, amphetamines are much more taxing on your body.

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Anonymous Mon 01 Jun 2020 17:49:13 No.11752861 Report

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>>11752753
>>11750893
I'm not gonna trust you. You're a junkie

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Anonymous Mon 01 Jun 2020 18:33:46 No.11752966 Report

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>>11750487
Not only this. But alcohol is the real "gateway drug". It lowers your inhibitions which makes it easier to dabble in all the other bad stuff.
Particularly cigarettes - most alcoholics are also heavy smokers, and I doubt many of them have the strength to quit smoking while they get drunk every day.

Basically if you're an alcohol, add one or more addiction substance to your addiction list - probably tobacco.

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Anonymous Mon 01 Jun 2020 18:57:57 No.11752997 Report

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>>11750487
I actually dont believe the image except for the fact that the damage due to alcohol is way underestimated.

If things like mushrooms and lsd were legal you'd get a lot of people just randomly walking out into freeways.

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2020 01:37:35 No.11753831 Report

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>>11750487
Alcohol is cheaper and more readily available which makes it far easier to abuse than heroin.
Per unit mass, heroin is more devastating to the individual. This is completely discounting any social effects, of which alcohol has many.

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2020 01:40:09 No.11753838 Report

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>>11750487
>I see these images all over the internet, are they true?
Drunk driving is a hell of a drug

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2020 06:30:58 No.11754233 Report

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>>11750487
No because it's WAY more available. Imagine if heroin was advertised and thought of s cool. You think the numbers would stay the same if you could buy it at walmart for a party?

The fact you can't figure this out makes me angry.

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2020 08:28:17 No.11754384 Report

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>>11750487
>drug harm score

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2020 08:39:22 No.11754407 Report

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lmao “why is a widely available drug that is part of culture that everyone uses cause more harm overall then heroine”
Kill yourself OP you are a retarded brainlet I hope you OD on heroine and get aids from the needle

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2020 09:06:17 No.11754453 Report

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>>11750487
>british
doesn't help that the Brits have got a bad drinking culture.

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2020 10:17:56 No.11754542 Report

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>>11750487
No
People calling alcohol extremely dangerous are poltards who also obsess over sugar.

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2020 10:24:39 No.11754549 Report

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>>11750487
I live in the netherlands. Xtc isn't harmless.

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