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Calling all Electric Universe Tards

Anonymous Sun 31 May 14:24:24 2020 No.11746242 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11749569 >>11750192 >>11750354 >>11750549

This is why you are all foolish:
youtube.com/watch?v=T9q-v4lBGuw

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 18:23:37 No.11749569 Report

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>>11746242
Wow that left hand side is a naive normie view of science.

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 20:31:56 No.11750192 Report

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>>11746242
I usually hate EUfags but that video is disingenuous as all hell. He doesn't understand what he's arguing against; he condescendingly explains basic-bitch Newtonian gravity learned in high school and implies EU people think gravity doesn't exist. There isn't a subsection of EU followers who believe gravity (as an effect) doesn't exist as far as I know. Nobody is arguing that Newton's equation is wrong.
Gravity also isn't "as understood as electro-magnetism" lmao.
I couldn't watch the entirety of that video because of it's redditor scientist aura.

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 20:36:16 No.11750207 Report

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>another, the current mainstream scientific views are 100% infallible and must be always accepted as perfect "science" video

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 21:19:47 No.11750342 Report

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>>11750207
That's not what he's saying. He's pointing out why EU doesn't work at all. He is not saying current understanding is complete, just that EU can not work whatsoever and that a complete understanding must and will include gravity

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 21:25:17 No.11750354 Report

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>>11746242
That's pretty misleading. Most science is done by theorists having an idea, usually supported by some math, that they then attempt to work backward until reality and evidence imply the math they originally had.

You are confused because 300+ years later, that piece of once new science is now so refined and integrated into the theory that it gives you the impression that it was the other way around.

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 21:57:14 No.11750460 Report

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Modern science is in a difficult position due to the very large unknowns that plague the major fields. Cranks come in and try to fill in these holes with nonsensical but plausible sounding explanations that appeal to normies by being simple to understand.

The EU people often will start saying largely correct things about interesting plasma phenomenons like Birkeland currents and Z-pinchs,but then they apply these into scenarios that are absurd. To act like the sun is somehow a giant Z-pinch when everything about its emissions and composition strongly indicates it is a big p-p gravitational fusion reator, espeially since this ignores how the energy to create this enormous z-pinch actually arrives at the sun in some sort of invisible,undetectable megacurrent that somehow has no other effects on anything else in the solar system...

It's doubly annoying when they get shitty with genuine plasma physicists and act like watching a ew shitty videos makes them as qualified as people with decades of experience wrangling plasma.

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 22:06:32 No.11750499 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBInhPFFVog

It's sad to see so many people wasting so much time on a futile effort. Especially now that fusion research has become so interesting.

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 22:21:11 No.11750549 Report

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>>11746242
Let me guess: you think,that pesticides and GMO's are necessary to some extent to provide the world with safe, cheap and abundant food, that homeopathy is placebo, that because vaccination works all vaccines are safe...
Am I right there?

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 22:24:35 No.11750559 Report

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>>11750460
>scenarios that are absurd

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 22:42:47 No.11750621 Report

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>>11750559
what on earth is that supposed to show?

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 23:09:35 No.11750732 Report

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>>11750621
Schizophrenia.

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 23:20:21 No.11750781 Report

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>starts with conclusion then works to confirm
isn't that basically a hypothesis? are abstracts and good noncryptic intros also pseudoscience?

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 23:24:47 No.11750802 Report

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>>11750549
>pesticides and GMO
Arguably necessary. Pesticides are usually awful and GMO has been weaponized by corps. Really we should just use GMO and better farming practices to make pesticides unnecessary. GMO is totally fine for human consumption.
>homeopathy is placebo
Yes, it literally is, and if you think it isn't you're too far gone.
>because vaccination works all vaccines are safe
Not necessarily, vaccines are typically safe though. I'm not certain on this one.

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 23:27:50 No.11750808 Report

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>>11750559
wow. it's almost as if they are trying to draw a human but they too retarded and spastic

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 23:44:59 No.11750852 Report

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>>11750802
/sci/ is really the containment board for redditors, NPCs and industrial shills

Did you know for example that homeopathy has an effect on plants?

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 23:51:53 No.11750868 Report

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>>11750852
How could it when homeopathy isn't even coherent or logically consistent? Why is water going to "remember" whatever you put in it and not the contents of the container or some other thing it came in contact with before? Why does the process of diluting your solution make any difference if that "water memory" just spreads to all the other molecules again when you shake it?

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 23:52:55 No.11750870 Report

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>>11750868
*the material of the container

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 23:56:53 No.11750878 Report

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>>11750868

homeopathy is less about the chemistry and more about the psychology of the placebo effect

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 23:58:24 No.11750882 Report

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>>11750878
Yes, exactly. It's a placebo, it works about as well as placebo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 23:59:16 No.11750884 Report

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>>11750621
Top left is a plasma discharge viewed from the side. The rest are ancient cave paintings from around the same period
does anyone have a good explanation for there origin and continuity

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Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 23:59:27 No.11750885 Report

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>>11750549
Again EU dumbfucks can't actually produce a working model or explain anything that Dace points out in the video.
How about instead of guessing about what my opinions may be, you actually show how EU works. You can't because EU is pseudo science and objectively wrong.

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Anonymous Mon 01 Jun 2020 01:28:17 No.11751102 Report

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>>11750868
https://crimsonpublishers.com/acam/pdf/ACAM.000534.pdf

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Anonymous Mon 01 Jun 2020 02:39:34 No.11751245 Report

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>>11751102
From https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10853874/
>Conclusions: There is some evidence that homeopathic treatments are more effective than placebo; however, the strength of this evidence is low because of the low methodological quality of the trials. Studies of high methodological quality were more likely to be negative than the lower quality studies. Further high quality studies are needed to confirm these results.
So in other words. homeopathy working is unlikely. Which is no surprise, given what I mentioned - it isn't even internally consistent.

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Anonymous Mon 01 Jun 2020 03:32:49 No.11751325 Report

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>>11750852
>/sci/ is really the containment board for redditors, NPCs and industrial shills
>
>Did you know for example that homeopathy has an effect on plants?
oh the irony

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