/sci/ - Science & Math » Thread #11740470

3KiB, 330x153, download.png

View Same Google iqdb SauceNAO

Boeing

Anonymous Sat 30 May 19:54:46 2020 No.11740470 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11740681 >>11741176 >>11741293 >>11741344 >>11741364 >>11741558 >>11741602 >>11741624

Let's talk abou Boeing. How hard are they seething right now? When are they planning on doing their manned launch? How shitty and expensive is their system going to be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 19:58:08 No.11740573 Report

Quoted By: >>11740637 >>11741232

They are a shit company who would have outsourced half their shit to pajeets if not for the recent scandal. Jeff Bezos has a better chance of beating Elon than this shithole of a company. Boeing is just an amorphous corporate entity that exists to suck away public money. Billionaire owned companies at least have soul and drive behind them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 19:59:26 No.11740614 Report

Quoted By:

None at all. They have the lucrative SLS contract on top of getting most of the money from commercial crew with starliner as opposed to spacex who get the breadcrumbs while also happily doing all the work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:00:25 No.11740637 Report

Quoted By: >>11740665

>>11740573
>the recent scandal
what scandal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:01:46 No.11740665 Report

Quoted By:

>>11740637
737 max streetshitter driven errors killing people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:02:26 No.11740681 Report

Quoted By: >>11740898 >>11741003 >>11741042

>>11740470
>Boeing

You mean the company that got double the money SpaceX got for the same job?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:11:27 No.11740898 Report

Quoted By: >>11744422

>>11740681
Well Boeing are the leader, and spacex are the follower, the backup, in the program.

Of course Boeing should get more money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:11:59 No.11740907 Report

Quoted By: >>11740966

Boeing treated SpaceX as a joke while running thier own company into the ground (figuratively and literally). Best case senario they take the hint and get their shit together, second best case they go broke, worst case they stay on their current course and keep getting contracts.
If New Glenn flys before SLS they will be in very bad shape, if OmegA flys before SLS they will be all but done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:15:14 No.11740966 Report

Quoted By: >>11740979

>>11740907
Which SLS? The somewhat useful 130ton variant or the proof-of-concept-but-we'll-use-it-anyway one that got uprated to ~90tons through paperwork?
The former - never.
The latter - within 2 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:16:17 No.11740979 Report

Quoted By:

>>11740966
The latter of course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:17:31 No.11741003 Report

Quoted By: >>11741042

>>11740681
>You mean the company that got double the money SpaceX got for the same job?
No. They're the company that got double the money SpaceX got to do less with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:20:08 No.11741042 Report

Quoted By: >>11741097 >>11741104 >>11741212

>>11741003
>>11740681
I think they are still seething cause they look like retards right now, and this hurts their reputation. Next time around, the contracts will not be awarded this way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:23:24 No.11741097 Report

Quoted By: >>11741155 >>11741812

>>11741042
Musk has been pushing hard for congress to drop cost+ contracting and congresses responce has been "it gets results". I think he might be able to turn a few more senators now and if he can kill cost+ ULA / Boeing is done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:23:44 No.11741104 Report

Quoted By: >>11741157

>>11741042
>Next time around, the contracts will not be awarded this way.
It has already happened with the HLS contracts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:26:55 No.11741155 Report

Quoted By: >>11741191

>>11741097
I don't have a big problem with ULA. At least they consistently and reliably launch shit. The only real problem was they had no competition but that has changed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:27:02 No.11741157 Report

Quoted By:

>>11741104
The guy that made that call got sacked and ULA has 6 months to protest. I would be amazed if those contracts don't end up in the bin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:28:37 No.11741176 Report

Quoted By:

>>11740470
Shitliner is going to be a year late and twice the cost of crew dragon, whilst carrying less cargo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:29:36 No.11741191 Report

Quoted By: >>11741229

>>11741155
While they gone the job done I hate any company that treats tax dollars as a bottomless pit for their personal gain.
IMO when a project hits 200% the initial bid there should be criminal proceedings for defrauding the government.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:31:20 No.11741212 Report

Quoted By: >>11741229 >>11741303

>>11741042
>this hurts their reputation
Boeing rep is already in the fucking gutter. They built planes using pajeets to save money which ended up being flying coffins. They were on the verge of bankruptcy, then an economic disaster hit which pushed them over. Luckily for them it was a freak virus which caused it which allowed them to smokescreen their ask for money as being "legitimate," then while begging for money proceeded to insult the government and American public during the deal making process. And they still got the free cash only to lay off workers several weeks later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:32:31 No.11741229 Report

Quoted By: >>11741398

>>11741191
>when a project hits 200% the initial bid there should be criminal proceedings for defrauding the government.
i agree. did that happen though?

i have personal experience with a space-related govt contract awarded to boeing and they have proven to be incompetent and underperformed and asked for more money. i blame the govertment people for awarding the contract also because the other proposals were better

>>11741212
they got money from CARES act?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:32:42 No.11741232 Report

Quoted By: >>11741304 >>11741417

>>11740573
>Jeff Bezos has a better chance of beating Elon
Bezos still hasn't launched anyone on their New Shepard rocket, despite it supposedly being complete. What's the hold up Jeff baby?

Anonymous

View Same Google iqdb SauceNAO spacexdragoncock.jpg, 92KiB, 640x838

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:34:22 No.11741256 Report

Quoted By:

OC
ITT we laugh at Boeing

Anonymous

View Same Google iqdb SauceNAO 1584741401322.png, 113KiB, 500x584

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:36:51 No.11741293 Report

Quoted By: >>11741334 >>11741346

>>11740470
Space is hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:37:34 No.11741303 Report

Quoted By: >>11741338

>>11741212
MaX coffins still not approved to fly nearly 16 months later either, with no approval in sight.
Add in corona killing air travel for the next 2-5 years and I'm not sure they'll ever fly again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:37:40 No.11741304 Report

Quoted By:

>>11741232
>What's the hold up Jeff baby?
No ambition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:40:12 No.11741334 Report

Quoted By:

>>11741293
And expensive!

Anonymous

View Same Google iqdb SauceNAO 737 lot.jpg, 131KiB, 960x551

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:40:29 No.11741338 Report

Quoted By:

>>11741303
They are sitting on so many they will sell below cost if they have to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:40:59 No.11741344 Report

Quoted By: >>11741361

>>11740470
>When are they planning on doing their manned launch?

lol, that shit is never gonna happen now

Anonymous

View Same Google iqdb SauceNAO it_aint_that_easy.png, 155KiB, 667x410

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:41:00 No.11741346 Report

Quoted By: >>11741703

>>11741293

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:42:11 No.11741361 Report

Quoted By:

>>11741344
It will, NASA wants more than one commercial supplier for LEO missions so that a launch failure doesn't ground their access to LEO completely.

Anonymous

View Same Google iqdb SauceNAO boing (2).png, 480KiB, 1500x500

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:42:32 No.11741364 Report

Quoted By:

>>11740470
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:46:03 No.11741398 Report

Quoted By:

>>11741229
>CARES act?
No, just money from the other FED.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200527094212/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-02/the-non-bailout-how-the-fed-saved-boeing-without-paying-a-dime

My comment was misleading in hindsight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:47:08 No.11741417 Report

Quoted By:

>>11741232
>What's the hold up Jeff baby?
I didn't mean it as a compliment. More like an insult to Boeing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 20:59:46 No.11741558 Report

Quoted By:

>>11740470
Boeing is no long run by engineers, its now run by accountants, they are never going to space

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 21:03:34 No.11741602 Report

Quoted By:

>>11740470
Decadence and Complacency. Too long they are run by fossilized backwards neanderthals that know how to lobby more than how to make a plane that flies.
Of course elon was going to beat dudes who can barely fire off an email properly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 21:06:42 No.11741624 Report

Quoted By:

>>11740470
They deserve it, honestly. They can hardly run a company. Same goes for Bombardier, which is literally owned by the Quebec mafia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 21:13:57 No.11741694 Report

Quoted By: >>11741727

They killed the XS-1 because of the combined 737 and Covid-19 fiascos pissing on their commercial sales. They literally had an ace in the hole for SpaceX and threw it out because... well because they are stupid. The USAF is basically going to be reliant on SpaceX for the next decade now because there's no XS-1 to replace Elon. It's just so fucking stupid. They did this with the DC-X too, which was where Musk got the idea for SpaceX. At every point they keep making stupid, narrow-sighted decisions that always backfire.

Kinda hope that DARPA puts up a middle finger and goes with Northrop's XS-1 proposal instead, that would be a true fuck you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 21:15:00 No.11741703 Report

Quoted By:

>>11741346

The more time goes on the more it's obvious that this is all a Boeing problem and not a NASA problem. NASA is at least building SLS and will commit to it, Boeing can't commit to shit and cancels it halfway through.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 21:17:54 No.11741727 Report

Quoted By:

>>11741694
>XS-1
Being Boeing I would be surprised if they could get it cheaper than the OmegA which is going to be the standard USAF ride in a year or two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 21:20:39 No.11741759 Report

Quoted By: >>11741822 >>11741843

I'm not familiar with all the programs and shit you are all talking about. Is there a good place to learn about all this and get updated?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 21:23:38 No.11741797 Report

Quoted By: >>11741843

The only reason Lockheed and Boeing still exist is due to muh bailout packages and guberment contracts because of muh jobs
In a real free market they would've gone bankrupt long ago

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 21:24:49 No.11741812 Report

Quoted By: >>11741843

>>11741097
Boeing like Ford, GM and GE are legacy monoliths too stuck in their ways to compete with the new generation of competitors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 21:25:30 No.11741822 Report

Quoted By:

>>11741759
Ask around in /sfg/, they'll tell you. Post a pic of an anime girl for extra effect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 21:28:04 No.11741843 Report

Quoted By:

>>11741759
I autistically read budget reports, I'm sure there are much better sources but I don't know them.

>>11741797
Privatizing profit and nationalising costs is one of the few things they are still good at.

>>11741812
Bureaucratic inertia is killing off everyone that can't break the habbit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 May 2020 21:29:29 No.11741854 Report

Quoted By:

>spacex sends people to space without mishap
>boeing sends people into the ground because they fucked up a basic aircraft design

Anonymous

View Same Google iqdb SauceNAO UwU.jpg, 75KiB, 782x561

Anonymous Sun 31 May 2020 07:34:17 No.11744204 Report

Quoted By:

>POO FOUND IN THE CODE
Much Love from /sfg/

smokingman

smokingman Sun 31 May 2020 08:53:06 No.11744422 Report

Quoted By:

>>11740898
leader in lives lost

Capcode	All Only User Posts Only Moderator Posts Only Admin Posts Only Developer Posts
Show Posts	All Only With Images Only Without Images
Deleted Posts	All Only Deleted Posts Only Non-Deleted Posts
Ghost Posts	All Only Ghost Posts Only Non-Ghost Posts
Post Type	All Only Sticky Threads Only Opening Posts Only Reply Posts
Results	All Grouped By Threads
Order	Latest Posts First Oldest Posts First

Your latest searches