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Anonymous Wed 27 May 06:52:30 2020 No.11716488 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11716764 >>11717082 >>11717272 >>11720666 >>11720700

Does the concept of numbers come from consciousness itself?

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Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 08:33:15 No.11716703 Report

Quoted By: >>11716716 >>11717365

Numbers are human abstractions, so yes

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Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 08:39:44 No.11716716 Report

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>>11716703
is not everything human abstraction?

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Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 08:59:40 No.11716764 Report

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>>11716488
bees can count and do very simple arithmetic just sayin

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Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 09:12:52 No.11716788 Report

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>>11716764
consciousness, so yeah

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Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 09:46:25 No.11716846 Report

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>>11716788
bees arent alive returd

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Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 09:48:39 No.11716850 Report

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>>11716846
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/insects-are-conscious-claims-major-paper-that-could-show-us-how-our-own-thoughts-began-a7002151.html

The concept of what even is consciousness is controversial, I am not ego enough to say what does or does not count as conscious but if an insect is capable of math then that makes you wonder if it's a basic computer or something more.

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Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 09:55:22 No.11716861 Report

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If you can think of it, it came from your conciousness. Numbers itself is just a model, if you add 2 logs to your 2 it'll still make it 4

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Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 09:59:35 No.11716865 Report

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>>11716846
>projecting
errytime

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Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 10:01:43 No.11716869 Report

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>>11716865
schizo

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Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 10:07:07 No.11716880 Report

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>>11716869
>>11716865

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Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 11:44:17 No.11717082 Report

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>>11716488
Frog posters are the only conscious posters on /sci/ the rest are NPC

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Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 11:45:23 No.11717086 Report

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>>11716846
>bees aren't alive
wut

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Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 12:40:09 No.11717272 Report

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>>11716488
Yes and no, classification is a basic step of the learning process. But 'understanding' it in hindsight only really becomes possible if the entity becomes aware of its doings.

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Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 13:05:07 No.11717365 Report

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>>11716703
Except numbers are from the universe and we’ve only discovered them, not made them up

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Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 17:16:25 No.11718843 Report

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>>11716850
>we are bugs
we are bugs
>we are bugs
we are bugs
>we are bugs
we are bugs
>we are bugs
we are bugs

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Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 18:51:34 No.11720632 Report

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Numbers are merely the written language of matter

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Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 18:53:21 No.11720666 Report

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>>11716488
no they come from things being different

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Anonymous Wed 27 May 2020 18:55:21 No.11720700 Report

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>>11716488
No, they come from the notion that similar tasks take different amounts of time to complete. If anything, numbers are the way the brain has to determine the time range of a certain action.

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