Microtubule Computation and biological intelligence
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The stupid fucking system thought my linking to research was spam, so I have to link to the research in the next post
Back in the Early and mid 2000's, people thought that "the brains a classical computer". They published papers making the argument, like this one:
This was the belief for about a decade. However modern research has shown that it was wrong. We have directly observed superposition and quantum computation being done in brain micro-tubules
Anyone who thinks that "the brain is too wet and warm and noisy for quantum computation to be performed in it" is living in the early 2000's and is not up to date on modern research on the topic. Quantum Computation IS part of the functionality of the biological brain.
Penrose and Hameroff are right. Consciousness and Qualia are objectively real and require underlying superposition. Quantum superposition and the Wave Function are objectively ontologically real things that are immaterial and non-physical. Consciousness and Qualia are therefore immaterial and non-physical but objectively real, and localized to the brain. This is why destroying parts of the brain still lead to consistent mental deficits - you are destroying both the classical transistors (neurons) and the quantum computers (microtubules). So these findings do not contradict any other research in Neuroscience or the study of computation.
Your brain is performing ~10^18 classical computations per second and about ~10^200 quantum computations per second. The level of intelligence that large swathes of computation can get to is significantly lower than what many researchers believe. We must not ignore the research on general intelligence and the computation therein. We will never, NEVER, generate general intelligence using pure classical computation neural networks or any of the other algorithms currently being used in the field. If we want AI (which we do) we cant ignore this.
Back in the Early and mid 2000's, people thought that "the brains a classical computer". They published papers making the argument, like this one:
This was the belief for about a decade. However modern research has shown that it was wrong. We have directly observed superposition and quantum computation being done in brain micro-tubules
Anyone who thinks that "the brain is too wet and warm and noisy for quantum computation to be performed in it" is living in the early 2000's and is not up to date on modern research on the topic. Quantum Computation IS part of the functionality of the biological brain.
Penrose and Hameroff are right. Consciousness and Qualia are objectively real and require underlying superposition. Quantum superposition and the Wave Function are objectively ontologically real things that are immaterial and non-physical. Consciousness and Qualia are therefore immaterial and non-physical but objectively real, and localized to the brain. This is why destroying parts of the brain still lead to consistent mental deficits - you are destroying both the classical transistors (neurons) and the quantum computers (microtubules). So these findings do not contradict any other research in Neuroscience or the study of computation.
Your brain is performing ~10^18 classical computations per second and about ~10^200 quantum computations per second. The level of intelligence that large swathes of computation can get to is significantly lower than what many researchers believe. We must not ignore the research on general intelligence and the computation therein. We will never, NEVER, generate general intelligence using pure classical computation neural networks or any of the other algorithms currently being used in the field. If we want AI (which we do) we cant ignore this.
