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Anonymous Wed 06 May 02:19:37 2020 No.11641562 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11641654 >>11641762 >>11641825 >>11641859 >>11642886 >>11643327

>It's another episode of anon reading a book only to forget basically 95% of it within a day or so

Is there a reliable, scientific way to develop good working and longer term memory as well? Books take so much effort to finish reading and I want to actually start getting some benefit from them.

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Anonymous Wed 06 May 2020 02:23:10 No.11641580 Report

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if you don't benefit from them already, maybe you actually don't need them, your brain would have remembered them unconsciously

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Anonymous Wed 06 May 2020 02:47:47 No.11641654 Report

Quoted By: >>11641668

>>11641562
Read Make It Stick and apply the given method in it.

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Anonymous Wed 06 May 2020 02:52:40 No.11641668 Report

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>>11641654
Does it actually work or is it another charlatan self-help book?

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Anonymous Wed 06 May 2020 02:54:50 No.11641677 Report

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Get this book. it will help

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Anonymous Wed 06 May 2020 02:55:53 No.11641681 Report

Quoted By: >>11641790

>>11641677
>Oh anon just read these 10 books on HOW to read books

Lol come on guys. Can you just summarize them for me? Do I make notes as I read or what?

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Anonymous Wed 06 May 2020 03:17:13 No.11641762 Report

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>>11641562
95% of material in book is mostly fillament, books rewrite the actually same information in various times. I could say that books sometimes sounds like one sentence, which makes you gasp on subject, then you know a lot more about it. You need increase in your knowledge, not remember a whole book, and you've got free place, store just information compressed. Few sentances do really good, if you format your own, istead of remembering what's written.

Maybe there will be some lexical difference, but you can remember schematic drawing from system you've read about in a book, therefore picture wroth one page is like 50 pages.

I don't really see how you can remember full book. Have you ever remembered full book i every detail? That's a nice memory you have, but really books doesn't have to be remembered exactly.

Especially something educational. I cannot name so huge lists from distant memory as liste in books, but I can write another ingrediendds even on pancake recipe.

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Anonymous Wed 06 May 2020 03:24:32 No.11641789 Report

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>>11641762
So what's the point of reading an entire book? To really "drive the point home" as they say?

Why not just read summarized versions or other people's notes of books?

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Anonymous Wed 06 May 2020 03:24:43 No.11641790 Report

Quoted By: >>11641813

>>11641681
Make sure you have a specific purpose or question that you're looking to get out of whatever book youre reading. Skim through the book and highlight or note on another piece of paper details that are important. After each section, be it a paragraph or chapter, summarize what you read in your own words. There isn't much else you can do other than these 2 things, besides general learning and memorization techniques.

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Anonymous Wed 06 May 2020 03:26:43 No.11641792 Report

Quoted By: >>11641813

>>11641789
There's a lot more to books than the cold hard facts they contain, other than technical books. Usually there's a different perspective, tangential information and an overall story that you might enjoy

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Anonymous Wed 06 May 2020 03:33:27 No.11641813 Report

Quoted By: >>11641874

>>11641792
I've read a few interesting books recently but really all it made me say is "Wow huh that is pretty cool!" then I just forgot it at the end, for the most part. I can only really summarize the book in a few sentences and maybe provide a small handful of examples from the text.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding how to read? I guess people aren't really encyclopedias who can quote blocks of text and specify the page/paragraph it's contained on.

The last two books I've read were "Why Looks Matter" and "How to not be wrong". Both authors are PhD's but I found the books a little drawn out and could only remember a few core ideas/concepts.

>>11641790
>besides general learning and memorization techniques.

Thank you for the other suggestions I'll try them, but could you elaborate on additional learning and memorization techniques please?

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Anonymous Wed 06 May 2020 03:35:35 No.11641825 Report

Quoted By: >>11641833

>>11641562
stop reading books, they are the worst source of information after momblogs and popsci articles

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 May 2020 03:37:20 No.11641833 Report

Quoted By: >>11641982

>>11641825
Read what then?

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Anonymous Wed 06 May 2020 03:45:14 No.11641859 Report

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>>11641562
Most things arent worth remembering. If you really want to, write down important things you want to remember as you read.

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Anonymous Wed 06 May 2020 03:49:26 No.11641874 Report

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>>11641813
>Thank you for the other suggestions I'll try them, but could you elaborate on additional learning and memorization techniques please?
Spaced repetition and increasing adjacent connections. Basically for SR learning you'd increase the interval in which you revisit and recall information. So you write your notes day1, recall and revisit day2 to remember what you read and what parts you were weak on, and you focus on the weak points. Then you give yourself a break of say 4 days, day5 you recall and revisit. For each successful attempt you increase your interval with whatever you're comfortable with, and decrease it if you're struggling. The most important aspect to this is trying to recall the information before relying on your notes as that will solidify the info in your head.

For adjacent connections you're just trying to find as many ways to imprint the new info on to things you already know, or add as much tangentially related info to the meat of what you want to recall. So for instance you're trying to remember a restaurant you went to, you'd think about the weather, the time of day, what you were wearing, etc.

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Anonymous Wed 06 May 2020 03:49:51 No.11641876 Report

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the only time that you're going to remember the stuff you read in a book is if:

-you thoroughly enjoyed it (you became immersed in it)
-it's information that you need to know to be able to connect/learn other ideas
-you actively recall the information from the book

if you're just reading a fucking non fiction book then you're not gonna remember shit.

I read like 5 different non-fiction 300-500 page books about 20th century china maybe 2 years ago and I've forgotten almost everything cuz I've never used the info since.

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Anonymous Wed 06 May 2020 04:31:12 No.11641982 Report

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>>11641833
crib sheets
live/video demonstrations
hands on experience

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 May 2020 14:08:44 No.11642886 Report

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>>11641562
Memorizing stuff is often worthless. You need the essentials to work with. Average text book has 3-4 really important facts or mechanisms per page. Write the really important ones down. For a study it’s basically only the methodology you have to look at and once you understand that you can just take a way the maybe 5-10 most important findings. Obsessing over irrelevant details is just for the exams. Get a decent understanding of the hole and you will be able to dive in any particular very detailed part within half an hour if you really need.

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Anonymous Wed 06 May 2020 16:04:45 No.11643158 Report

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It helps a lot to discuss something you've read with people that are at least vaguely interested, I think. You're actively trying to recall the information and formulate it in your own words when doing that. Should be similar to what other anons in here suggested about writing notes down on a paper while reading.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 May 2020 17:02:06 No.11643327 Report

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>>11641562
stop reading books
they're the most cluttered, outdated source of knowledge

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