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circles exist independent of humans

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 13:24:58 2020 No.11620065 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11620105 >>11620133 >>11620410 >>11620537 >>11621146 >>11623978

prove me wrong

>protip: you cant because im literally right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 13:26:15 No.11620066 Report

Quoted By: >>11620070 >>11620075

to conduct this experiment i must first eliminate all human observers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 13:26:54 No.11620070 Report

Quoted By: >>11620072 >>11620376

>>11620066
please so. start with all the people who dont believe in circles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 13:27:11 No.11620072 Report

Quoted By: >>11620087

>>11620070
i will be deciding who goes when and how.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 13:27:28 No.11620075 Report

Quoted By: >>11620078

>>11620066
In the name of science it will be done

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 13:27:59 No.11620078 Report

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>>11620075
its happening

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 13:31:29 No.11620087 Report

Quoted By: >>11620090 >>11620093

>>11620072
>t non circle believer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 13:32:46 No.11620090 Report

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>>11620087
?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 13:34:02 No.11620093 Report

Quoted By: >>11620144

>>11620087
how do intend to prove i dont believe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 13:36:29 No.11620100 Report

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Rainbows don't exist because our eyes aren't real

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 13:38:08 No.11620105 Report

Quoted By: >>11620112 >>11620115 >>11620483

>>11620065
Why stop at circles?
Your actual statement is, "mathematics is discovered, not invented"
Which is objectively true and only brainlets disagree

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 13:40:59 No.11620112 Report

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>>11620105
yes. im glad there is a sane person here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 13:41:57 No.11620115 Report

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>>11620105
t. brianlet

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 13:47:27 No.11620133 Report

Quoted By: >>11620138

>>11620065
"To exist" isn't even a predicate function.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 13:49:11 No.11620138 Report

Quoted By: >>11620192

>>11620133
you sound like someone trying extra hard to be smart but you make zero sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 13:51:23 No.11620144 Report

Quoted By: >>11620150

>>11620093
just a feeling i get. you aint from round deez purts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 13:53:15 No.11620150 Report

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>>11620144
whether or not i am is aside from the fact we would both need to not be able to observe the fact that i believe or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 14:06:22 No.11620192 Report

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>>11620138
To make actual sense may not make sense to you. It is a fact that in any mathematical theory, the statement for an object x of the theory that "x exists" is not a predicate. Take it or leave it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 15:08:02 No.11620376 Report

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>>11620070
how can you not believe in an abstract conception of a simple function? What's not to believe?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 15:20:42 No.11620410 Report

Quoted By: >>11620424 >>11620463

>>11620065

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 15:24:59 No.11620424 Report

Quoted By: >>11620448 >>11620491 >>11620495

>>11620410
lmfao, no, moron.
The burden of proof lies on the person who tries to disprove the claim. A claim is made, and then attempts are made to try to disprove it. If nothing can disprove it, it must be taken as being true.
This is the basis for the scientific method.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 15:32:20 No.11620448 Report

Quoted By: >>11620458 >>11620491

>>11620424
>If nothing can disprove it, it must be taken as being true.
>This is the basis for the scientific method.
ask me how i know you're not in STEM

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 15:34:40 No.11620458 Report

Quoted By: >>11620478 >>11620479

>>11620448
I have a degree in mathematics and I'm probably smarter than you in terms of raw IQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 15:35:55 No.11620463 Report

Quoted By: >>11623037

>>11620410
ok. the sun is a circle and has been around for billions of years before humans existed. therefore it will still be a cirlce once we are gone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 15:40:30 No.11620478 Report

Quoted By: >>11620608

>>11620458
I'll have you know, i quadro majored in mathematics, theoretical physics, theoretical comp sci, and theoretical fuck your mother therefore I'm smarter than you in terms of everything, including "raw IQ"
faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 15:41:00 No.11620479 Report

Quoted By: >>11620608

>>11620458
that is fascinating, how a mathematically illiterate retard can get a degree. what country are you from, sir?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 15:42:40 No.11620483 Report

Quoted By: >>11620835

>>11620105
Dumb. Math is discovered in an invented spectrum, aka the human spectrum.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 15:44:33 No.11620491 Report

Quoted By: >>11620518 >>11620541

>>11620424
>>11620448
anon is right and wrong. in mathematics finding a counterexample is sufficient to disprove a proposition. this onus of disproof is employed in cases such as this where all evidence thus far points to the positive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 15:45:36 No.11620495 Report

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>>11620424
so if someone claimed that red is always red it would fall upon the detractors to prove that sometimes red is blue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 15:50:26 No.11620518 Report

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>>11620491
>finding a counterexample is sufficient to disprove a proposition
of course, but anon is not making a conjecture but stating a "proof"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 15:54:15 No.11620537 Report

Quoted By: >>11620547

>>11620065
If human didn't exist then nothing would. Who's going to disagree with that statement, the dirt? God /sci is so dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 15:54:55 No.11620541 Report

Quoted By: >>11620575

>>11620491
That is stupid and circular. To say that all evidence points to the positive is the same as saying that you do not know a counterexample.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 15:55:58 No.11620547 Report

Quoted By: >>11620561 >>11620571

>>11620537
According to my holy book, God did exist before any human did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 15:59:20 No.11620561 Report

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>>11620547
where can i read the peer review?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 16:00:52 No.11620571 Report

Quoted By: >>11620585

>>11620547
Books are written by humans. Before humans, no book. No books, no god.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 16:01:47 No.11620575 Report

Quoted By: >>11620629

>>11620541
>circular
exactly

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 16:03:33 No.11620585 Report

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>>11620571
God told human: write book. Because God cannot write. Paraplegic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 16:08:09 No.11620608 Report

Quoted By: >>11620639

>>11620478
Impressive
>>11620479
There is nothing indicative of mathematical illiteracy in any of my posts. Your post id indicative of supreme cope and anger at the prospect that an educated person can disagree with you in epistemology, more evidence of the fact that I am far smarter than you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 16:12:48 No.11620629 Report

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>>11620575
A human said "circular" about an argument. The argument did not exist before that human (me) did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 16:14:48 No.11620639 Report

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>>11620608
>A claim is made, and then attempts are made to try to disprove it. If nothing can disprove it, it must be taken as being true.

an invisible, intangible space monster is about to fling an asteroid and destroy the earth unless i fuck your mother like the whore she is in front of you after i castrate and feed you your own genitals and put you on an estrogen diet and give you to somali niggers to rape you daily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 17:13:22 No.11620835 Report

Quoted By: >>11621079

>>11620483
Math is discovered because the universe runs off base 1 mathematics.

Humans invented math language, fractions, division, and multiplication, and base 10, simply for our convenience. I wonder how much physics would be different if you removed all the human inventions and just use the basic set of math rules that the universe runs off of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 18:17:12 No.11621079 Report

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>>11620835
Interesting point. Having a base at all in a number system, regardless of the base, is artificially representing a number as a sum of powers. Nature doesn’t shorthand represent stuff, it just is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 18:33:22 No.11621146 Report

Quoted By: >>11621185 >>11623043

>>11620065
When I fucked ur mum her asshole became a circle with circumference dependent on the radius of my huge cock.

QED.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 18:40:37 No.11621185 Report

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>>11621146
oof, ok fair point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 04:07:33 No.11623037 Report

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>>11620463
The sun is a sphere to leading order approximation

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 04:10:14 No.11623043 Report

Quoted By: >>11623969

>>11621146
A point doesn't really have a radius

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 11:09:59 No.11623969 Report

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>>11623043
lel it does tho, it's just infinitely small

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 11:15:38 No.11623978 Report

Quoted By: >>11624134

>>11620065
>made of discrete element
Not a circle

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 12:26:57 No.11624134 Report

Quoted By: >>11624963

>>11623978
What if those discrete elements are circular in nature?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 16:53:29 No.11624963 Report

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>>11624134
Possible, but not a given.

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