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Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 12:02:45 2020 No.11616159 View Reply Original Report

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6, 7, 8th edition? Maybe an older one? Which should I go for? Thanks in advance.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 12:11:50 No.11616181 Report

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>>11616159
>Which should I go for?
None

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 12:14:23 No.11616186 Report

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>>11616181

OP here. If so, why is this recommended to practice with their exercises in /sci/ Math guide?

Even more: why is it recommended in my faculty's bibliography?

C'mon, give me a tip on the subject, please.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 12:15:52 No.11616191 Report

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>>11616186
No.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 12:44:46 No.11616251 Report

Quoted By: >>11616870 >>11617603

>>11616159
So you're self-studying calculus and you know you want to use Stewart's book, but you aren't sure which edition to use? It doesn't matter, I'd either go with the most recent one or whichever is cheapest/easiest to obtain. The conspiracy theory is that they only release new editions is to break page- and exercise-number compatibility, forcing schools and students to keep buying new instead of used. (Plausible.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 12:52:27 No.11616271 Report

Quoted By: >>11616297

>>11616159
Am I missing some obvious reason not to always go for newest editions? If I'm already placing my trust in the author's competency I might as well get their latest opinion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 13:00:24 No.11616288 Report

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>>11616159
calculus is an old subject so any edition is good past the first one so the author can hash out the typos etc. the 4th one will do just fine. stop wasting money on new books.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 13:04:01 No.11616297 Report

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>>11616271
most of the market for older editions is normies who can't into libgen
once a new edition is released, the price of older editions plummets to pennies, and often (especially with the moneygrab freshman texts in their 12th edition) editions are basically identical except for trivial changes, so you can save a couple hundred bucks a semester buying very slightly outdated books

Other than that you're correct, there's really no reason to ever use an older edition except for maybe some extreme unique fringe case I've never heard of.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 15:15:07 No.11616604 Report

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>>11616159
buy apostol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 16:42:28 No.11616870 Report

Quoted By: >>11616974 >>11616983 >>11617291 >>11617684 >>11618211 >>11618874 >>11619890 >>11621519

OP here again.

>>11616251
>>11616288

Thanks for your post!

>>11616604

Why, if I may ask?
************************

The plan I try to follow is:

1) Baldor's books on Arithmetics, Algebra and Geometry/Trigonometry

2) Precalculus

3) Books on proofs

4) How to solve problems.

5) Calculus (I chose Stewart as the guide recommends)

6) Linear Algebra

7) Baby Rudin

8) Papa Rudin

Am I missing anything? Should I add any other important book that I'm not aware of? Any commentary is welcome!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 16:45:41 No.11616878 Report

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>>11616159
4th works fine. I got it for free from a professor. It's just as good as any other. Math does not chanhe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 16:57:24 No.11616928 Report

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>>11616159
Just watch Khans institute and Organic Chemistry tutor on YouTube. Do do drills of the problem. I’m refreshing on stuff I learned in college because I felt bad forgetting it, and wish I just learned it all like this originally. Listen at 1.5x or 1.75 speed if you aren’t a pleb

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 17:05:41 No.11616965 Report

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>>11616159
it's pretty lame but every non proof based calculus book is afaik

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 17:07:03 No.11616974 Report

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>>11616870
is this the order you want to follow because i'd do proofs after stewarts

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 17:09:08 No.11616983 Report

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>>11616870
apostol is a much tougher book than stewarts

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 18:23:26 No.11617291 Report

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>>11616870
stop planning start doing, just read a fucking book then come ask what to read next. And just start with calculus, you'll fill in what you need for trig/algebra as you go. Worry about proofs once you've got single variable calc down down, you shouldn't be worrying about proofs when you've got pre-algebra books in your list, lol.

Read Stewart's up to multivariable, use Professor Leonard and Paul's Online Math Notes as supplements, imo. Then take some linear algebra with a proof introduction.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 19:52:47 No.11617598 Report

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>>11616186
/sci/ math guide is garbage use hbpms.blogspot.com and use your brain.

>>11616159
if this is for a class just download the book online. if you are self-studying then get spivak's calculus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 19:54:33 No.11617603 Report

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>>11616251
it's not a conspiracy theory. in order for a university to be accredited in the united states, professors are required by law to assign the latest edition available for every textbook. publishers are in the business of making money, so the greedy ones make minimal breaking changes every year to force new purchases and the virtuous ones go bankrupt because no one buys their calculus textbook.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 20:14:33 No.11617668 Report

Quoted By: >>11621063

OP here once more.

>>11617291

Thanks!

>>11616983
>much tougher book than stewarts
>>11617598
>if you are self-studying then get spivak's calculus

Aren't these too hard to start with for a beginner like me? I thought I should learn to "walk" firstly before attempting to run, that's why I priorized Stewart over other more rigurous textbooks (this, and, as I said here >>11616186, this book is recommended in my uni).

To put in context: I have some background in maths at A level, just that; so I thought a friendly approach to higher levels would be the best option, before any other heavy textbook.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 20:19:30 No.11617684 Report

Quoted By: >>11617699

>>11616870
>needs to read an arithmetic book
>is planning his list all the way up to graduate real analysis before he starts
kill all bookfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 20:24:57 No.11617699 Report

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>>11617684
teehee

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 29 Apr 2020 23:08:08 No.11618211 Report

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>>11616870
>baldor
Hello fellow spic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 02:39:03 No.11618874 Report

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>>11616870
Don't fall for the baby -> papa meme. Do baby, sure, but then do some algebra, topology, complex analysis, etc... If you want to look at papa do so then, when you'll be much more mathematically mature

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 11:56:53 No.11619890 Report

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>>11616870
Matemática Simplificada - Conamat

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 12:04:27 No.11619909 Report

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Actually learn math instead of posting about shit doesn't matter on 4chan

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 12:16:08 No.11619937 Report

Quoted By: >>11621063

>>11616181
FPBP
>>11616186
Because people are retards. For a standard approach, read Apostol. For a non-standard approach that some people like better, read Keisler (Infinitesimal Approach)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 18:12:16 No.11621063 Report

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>>11619937

Isn't Apostol too rigurous, according to >>11617668 ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Apr 2020 20:11:17 No.11621519 Report

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>>11616870
Looks ok, but I don't think this would get you max /sci/ cred. You might want to spend another year or two tweaking this before starting the first book.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 May 2020 02:50:13 No.11622791 Report

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>>11616159
Im currently going through 7th E and its honestly pretty good for a beginner, its pretty easy to follow, I'd recommend it, just dont spend too much time on exercises.

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