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my friend argued the average philosophy college major

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 21:06:34 2020 No.11592401 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11592404 >>11592507 >>11594539 >>11594787 >>11595013 >>11596577

has more intelligence than Von Neumann

is he right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 21:07:57 No.11592404 Report

Quoted By: >>11592411 >>11592979 >>11594447

>>11592401
Categorically: absolutely, yes. Just watch any interview with him- he talks like a retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 21:10:10 No.11592411 Report

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>>11592404
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLbllFHBQM4

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 21:10:40 No.11592413 Report

Quoted By: >>11592431

The average european has more intellect than the average philosophy major. At least they aren't stupid enough to waste their lives pursuing a moneyless hobby.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 21:16:17 No.11592428 Report

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Philosophy is a very interesting degree and will probably be more applicable down the road. A large percentage of world leaders have philosophy degrees. Most world conquerers are wel knowledged in the subject too. I think employers probably over look it’s utility. People who are good at philosophy are usually excellent readers, writers, problem solvers, and critical thinkers. All of what I said is backed by numbers. After I finish my BA in business I’m going for a masters in philosophy. I’ve learned so much from that subject.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 21:17:23 No.11592431 Report

Quoted By: >>11592436

>>11592413
Philosophy majors have the second highest iqs. Beaten only by physics majors

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 21:19:21 No.11592436 Report

Quoted By: >>11592459 >>11592497

>>11592431
Must reflect their uncanny obsession with intellectual self-image, not actual ability, no? There are better armchair philosophers than PhD students. Philosophy is made, not learned in a sterile environment.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 21:21:55 No.11592445 Report

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>>11592411
>no nuance to his arguments, just More of everything!!
>Repetition as a crutch to buy more time to think of his (see above) dumb argument
>Alludes to nurture over nature as a primary explanation for achievement disparity
>smiles constantly like an autist

Bro, he's like the most intelligent human that's ever existed!! Amazing how quickly his mind worked!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 21:24:56 No.11592455 Report

Quoted By: >>11592519

>>11592445
>who's smarter: one of the most acclaimed physicists in human history, or that guy who spams le_reddit_face.jpeg on every thread in /sci/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 21:26:03 No.11592459 Report

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>>11592436
There’s a lot of history and great works already established in philosophy. Studying it teaches you how to think like a philosopher. It’s also very dense at times and good teacher can guide you through the exact meaning of certain works that you would otherwise struggle with. It’s definitley prone to amateurs being up there with well versed doctors though, but so is computer science.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 21:35:13 No.11592497 Report

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>>11592436
I think the stereotype of them studying only to brag about their degree is kinda wrong. It’s a pretty hard subject with little payoff, the people that study it will probably tend to be passionate about it. I’m sure some of that exist though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 21:37:31 No.11592507 Report

Quoted By: >>11592517

>>11592401
Von Neumann as well as all the other great physicists and mathematicians of his time were all philosophers as well as scientists.
It's a recent thing for physicists and other STEM midwits to hold disdain for philosophy.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 21:39:04 No.11592517 Report

Quoted By: >>11592540 >>11594456

>>11592507
This.

Most 21st century "science popularizers" are not intellectuals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 21:39:44 No.11592519 Report

Quoted By: >>11592543

>>11592455
Nice retard argument, retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 21:45:37 No.11592540 Report

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>>11592517
Science has become much more disciplined. Long gone are the days when you can just let your imagination take you places. And it's nearly impossible to truly excel at a field now due to the increased level of sophistication.
No wonder why so many scientists are leaving for private enterprise...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 21:46:37 No.11592543 Report

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>>11592519
you forgot to post another bearded redditor image

shame too because it would have been hilarious the 1500th time

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 21:51:59 No.11592556 Report

Quoted By: >>11592561

>>11592543
> YOU FORGOT TO POST ANOTHER BEARDED REDDITOR IMAGE

> SHAME TOO BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HILARIOUS THE 15000TH TIME

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 21:54:08 No.11592561 Report

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>>11592556

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 21:55:57 No.11592566 Report

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>>11592561
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 23:19:52 No.11592806 Report

Quoted By: >>11592840

>>11592459
>>11592497
It's not something that should be a university topic, though. Think of it like a writing degree (prose that is; novels and whatnot). No legendary novelist became legendary through his education. They became brilliant writers through practice and working with/critiquing/talking with others, which can be done in a place that doesn't require significant debt to be. Unlike other degrees, philosophy has no requirement for the rigor of a PhD program to become proficient. People who pretend you need to "start with the greeks" are stupid, and even if they WERE correct, you can do that online, as do many naturally talented philosophers. It's pointless, and what have educated philosophers provided to society apart from filling the pockets of ursurpers? We live in the information era. It is no longer needed to live in a university to create anything of intellectual value.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 23:28:33 No.11592840 Report

Quoted By: >>11592865

>>11592806
wew lad. Post body.

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Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 23:33:56 No.11592865 Report

Quoted By: >>11592879

>>11592840
150 lbs with weak but not terribly out of shape body, belly is a bit round, weak noodle arms but decent legs since I run like three times a weem

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 23:36:49 No.11592879 Report

Quoted By: >>11592896

>>11592865
sounds like a dictionary definition for skinny-fat

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 Apr 2020 23:41:49 No.11592896 Report

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>>11592879
Pretty much, yes. But it's not too bad when I put clothes on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 00:07:52 No.11592979 Report

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>>11592404
The von Neumann architecture should have also been called Zuse architecture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 10:53:21 No.11594447 Report

Quoted By: >>11594469 >>11594472 >>11594480

>>11592404
>>11592445
>There is a total of 0 (zero) interviews with him that can be found online
>There is a single 2 minute video of him talking on youtube
>He talks like any normal person
>WaTCh aNy IntErVIew wiTH HiM hE taLKs LiKe A RetArD

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 10:58:13 No.11594456 Report

Quoted By: >>11595052

>>11592517
That image is so blatantly stupid, and ironically the person that made it has the same close-minded mentality of the quotes on the right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 11:06:45 No.11594469 Report

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>>11594447
A man that can apparently process ten trillion calculations a second, all whilst remembering entire books word for word, all whilst proving the hardest mathematics problems- uses repetition to delay a question so he can think up the most brainless twitter-tier argument. Something smells fishy here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 11:08:03 No.11594472 Report

Quoted By: >>11594507

>>11594447
A man that can apparently process ten trillion calculations a second, all whilst remembering entire books word for word, all whilst proving the hardest mathematics problems in minutes- uses repetition to delay a question so he can think up the most brainless twitter-tier argument. Something smells fishy here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 11:12:26 No.11594480 Report

Quoted By: >>11594507

>>11594447
>He talks like any normal person
The average person is retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 11:33:43 No.11594507 Report

Quoted By: >>11594526

>>11594472
He's talking to children. Also, thinking before you speak is not stupidity; the fact that you think so shows how retarded you are.
>>11594480
The average person is also not normal, dumbass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 11:39:44 No.11594526 Report

Quoted By: >>11594537 >>11594544

>>11594507
The average (modal) person IS normal (not atypical, i.e. modal).

And he's not talking to kids, he's talking on national TV.

The man with supposed superhuman speed and throughput needs to jumble his words like a retard before spewing some twitter-tier hottake with no nuance? Guy is a fruad. I bet he either paid his friends to boost his renown, or set up little "miracles" as an illusion type trick. Because from what I've seen most of his acclaim is based on hearsay and his friends claiming how good he is.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 11:42:45 No.11594536 Report

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Philosochad here, yes he is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 11:43:18 No.11594537 Report

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>>11594526
>from what I've seen
Not a surprise given you're a troglodyte.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 11:43:55 No.11594539 Report

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>>11592401
>my friend
normalfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 11:44:56 No.11594544 Report

Quoted By: >>11594561

>>11594526
Also, none of what you said is even true about the 2 minute feature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 11:55:30 No.11594561 Report

Quoted By: >>11594614

>>11594544
If you can't see what is pointed out time and time again, you're a brainlet, bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 12:16:57 No.11594614 Report

Quoted By: >>11594642

>>11594561
If you see things that aren't there, you're schizo, bro. Take your meds.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 12:25:38 No.11594642 Report

Quoted By: >>11594667

>>11594614

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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 12:37:11 No.11594667 Report

Quoted By: >>11594673

>>11594642
The inability to present an valid argument, and instead rely on tired memes really shows how retarded you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 12:38:56 No.11594673 Report

Quoted By: >>11594724

>>11594667
I did present an argument, and you dismissed it with tired old memes, bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 12:56:36 No.11594724 Report

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>>11594673
Keyword: valid

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 13:05:10 No.11594745 Report

Quoted By: >>11594785

>>11592411
>doesn't blink
i-i-is he a robot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 13:31:30 No.11594785 Report

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>>11594745
no, just a retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 13:32:09 No.11594787 Report

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>>11592401
Von Neumann is pretty average for an Ashkenazi Jew.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 15:17:20 No.11595013 Report

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>>11592401
Your friend may or may not have more intelligence than von Neumann; von Neumann certainly demonstrated his-- what about your friend? What about those philosophy majors of which he speaks?

What is the point of intelligence that is directed nowhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 15:38:14 No.11595052 Report

Quoted By: >>11595070

>>11594456
explain

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 15:42:16 No.11595070 Report

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>>11595052
Aside from Krauss's, none of the quotes on the right disagree with any on the left. Also, they are single quotes, taken out of context, used to supposedly describe one's entire thoughts on philosophy of science. The creator essentially aims to categorize those people based on those particular quotes rather than consider things from a more open perspective.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 23:55:13 No.11596562 Report

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are they linked? every smart person i've met irl had saucer pupils like they were on drugs

look at von neumann's in every photo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Apr 2020 23:59:39 No.11596577 Report

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>>11592401
How did he define intelligence? He doesn't get to just make a claim like that without elaborating.

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