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Anonymous Wed 15 Apr 12:08:58 2020 No.11567017 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11567023 >>11567025 >>11567031

So for all real numbers like 0.999... and 1 they are in fact the same if no numbers exist between them, how are there any numbers at all if you can't define the "next number"??

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Anonymous Wed 15 Apr 2020 12:12:18 No.11567020 Report

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Anonymous Wed 15 Apr 2020 12:14:10 No.11567023 Report

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>>11567017
Why does there need to be a "next number?" The rationals have no "next numbers."

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Anonymous Wed 15 Apr 2020 12:14:47 No.11567025 Report

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>>11567017
The same is true for rational numbers.
What's the next number after 0?
1/2? No, 1/4 comes before. 1/1000? You get my point.
Do you deny that rationals exist?

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Anonymous Wed 15 Apr 2020 12:19:34 No.11567031 Report

Quoted By: >>11567044 >>11567094

>>11567017

Bingo.

Numbers are a human tool. They do not actually exist. Universe is ratios not quantities. And even then those ratios are automata not sequential.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Apr 2020 12:25:01 No.11567044 Report

Quoted By: >>11567054 >>11567063 >>11567073

>>11567031
retardpilled

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Anonymous Wed 15 Apr 2020 12:31:25 No.11567054 Report

Quoted By: >>11567063 >>11567065 >>11567073

>>11567044

Not really, senpai. Thing about Zeros Paradox for example. How does anything move if there is infinitely fractionable space between any 2 points? Its because motion is relative. It is a ratio measured by comparing different reference frames. It's a concept beyond traditional mathematics and yet completely exact, material and logical. This is also why traditional math couldnt solve unified physics, fyi.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Apr 2020 12:34:38 No.11567063 Report

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>>11567044
>>11567054

In short, nothing exists in solidarity, but only in comparision with everything else. The very concept of 1, 2, 3, 4... this does not exist in the real fundamental Universe, only in derivative human constructs does it exist. Numbers are a human tool, and not fundamental.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Apr 2020 12:35:44 No.11567065 Report

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>>11567054

*Zeno, and other spelling errors. I know. I dont really care.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Apr 2020 12:40:05 No.11567073 Report

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>>11567044
>>11567054

... so when we ask, "how long does the turtle take to walk from A to B"? We can only answer in reference to something else, "it takes the turtle the same time it takes the Earth to make half rotation". This is what is meant by ratio. Classical mathematics would try and answer with some number like 12 hours for example, but those numbers dont really exist, only the underlying concept of what hours represents exists.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Apr 2020 12:52:43 No.11567094 Report

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>>11567031
You're a human tool.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Apr 2020 13:21:59 No.11567139 Report

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>>11567094
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