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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 13:17:16 2020 No.11560663 View Reply Original Report

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Why didn't the cat just observe itself?

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 13:23:03 No.11560670 Report

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>>11560663

Why didn't the electron interact with itself?

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 13:24:04 No.11560672 Report

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>>11560663
Why do people take this silly thought experiment so seriously? It's a fucking metaphor yet idiots draw all these weird conclusions from it

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 13:41:46 No.11560693 Report

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>>11560663
I'm sure it made a five-course meal of its asshole.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 13:42:51 No.11560695 Report

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>>11560672
lame

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 13:44:26 No.11560697 Report

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>>11560663

Well that one is easy, the cat didnt had a mirror to look at itself. No mirror, no self observation.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 13:48:56 No.11560705 Report

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>>11560663
how will quantum """""scientists""""" ever recover from this????

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 17:18:52 No.11561215 Report

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>>11560663
This was a thought experiment to attempt to show how dumb QM was, but retards just accept it uncritically.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 17:43:29 No.11561272 Report

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>>11560672
Its making a statement about the nature of electrons. The cat, a specifically crafted macroscopic object, is shown to illustrate what the implications of nature of electrons are. Retards like you fail to see the issue because you either believe quantum mechanics is fake news and its just a tool, or you believe quantum mechanics is just another reality that we as humans can't interact with.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 17:44:46 No.11561275 Report

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>>11561215
>to show how dumb copenhagen interpretation was
fixed.

Einstein's example is when he asked whether the moon cease to exist when we look away.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 17:47:51 No.11561282 Report

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>>11560672
>It's a fucking metaphor
Not really.
Schrodinger came up with the thought experiment because he didn't like the implications of QM and wanted to demonstrate why it was nonsense by making a quantum phenomenon manifest on a scale where your intuition steps in and says "Wait... Thats fucking stupid a cat can't be alive AND dead."
QM was such a solid theory that makes predictions that have panned out that it is used now as a convenient explanation for superposition.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 17:51:20 No.11561286 Report

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>>11560663
Cats don't have souls

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 17:51:55 No.11561290 Report

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>>11561282
>because he didn't like the implications of QM
WRONG. He didn't like the implications of Copenhagen Interpretation, just like Einstein. He didn't hate QM, just the COPEnhagen interpretation that Bohr was spouting.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 18:34:31 No.11561396 Report

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>>11560672
They don't, only physicists do

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 18:48:13 No.11561426 Report

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>>11560672
well your wrong it is meant to be 100% literal the cat is in a superposition until it is observed

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 19:54:47 No.11561603 Report

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>>11561275
The actual answer is that, in QM, interaction and observation are literally the same thing. So all the constituent particles of the Moon "observe" each other so we don't have to.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 20:03:17 No.11561645 Report

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Is there something in the universe that's not being observed, so it's always in a superposition of states?

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 20:09:28 No.11561664 Report

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>>11560663
He did, hence why he's alive. Which is the whole point of the thought experiment. The thought experiment says that it's impossible for the cat to be simultaneously alive and dead. Its intent is to demonstrate the apparent absurdity of superposition and wavefunction collapse.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 20:10:28 No.11561668 Report

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 20:11:29 No.11561672 Report

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>OMG I love Schrodinger's Cat

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 20:51:41 No.11561793 Report

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the only answer i can think of to this problem is the many worlds interpretation

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 21:07:07 No.11561853 Report

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>>11561793
>many worlds interpretation
t. redditor
Copenhagen is the standard interpretation accepted by most scientist other than popsci who keep their redditor audience amazed with stories of multiple universes and shit

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 21:22:35 No.11561916 Report

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>>11561853
>Appeal to popularity fallacy

The people you are referring to are not quantum field theorists. There's no practical difference to them whether Many Worlds or Copenhagen is correct, they're just simply repeating what they learned in school as they do in most subjects they are not experts in. Maybe there's a world where you are not a huge retard, but I'm afraid it isn't this one...

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 21:24:23 No.11561925 Report

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>>11560663
quantum physics. it all makes perfect sense now. genius. no objects. nothing is real.

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 21:25:40 No.11561931 Report

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>>11561853
>Copenhagen

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 21:29:42 No.11561945 Report

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>>11561916
>gets called for being a redditor
>replies with reddit spacing
nice going retard

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 21:31:25 No.11561948 Report

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>>11561931
t. I watch Rick and Morty therefore many worlds interpretation is the realest truest form of universe

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Anonymous Mon 13 Apr 2020 21:34:04 No.11561952 Report

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>>11561945
I wasn't the person you responded to, your post isn't an argument, and using a space to separate a direct quote from mockery is fairly standard on 4chan.

Reddit spacing is two spaces to separate a paragraph, not one. Like this.

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