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Anonymous Sat 11 Apr 03:39:35 2020 No.11553275 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11553281 >>11553322 >>11553338 >>11553388 >>11553393 >>11554523

maths are real in an onthological way (exist even if humans don't exist) or a mind's construction (exist only if humans exist)?

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Anonymous Sat 11 Apr 2020 03:42:10 No.11553281 Report

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>>11553275
last one.

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Anonymous Sat 11 Apr 2020 04:03:53 No.11553322 Report

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>>11553275
>maths
What did he mean by this?

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Anonymous Sat 11 Apr 2020 04:07:42 No.11553338 Report

Quoted By: >>11553379 >>11554502 >>11554523

>>11553275
Numbers don't exist, they are abstractions of the laws of physics. Math is just a complicated system we made up to describe things. This is like asking if English exists without humans. The answer is no. People pretend this is a hard question, those people are fools.

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Anonymous Sat 11 Apr 2020 04:30:13 No.11553379 Report

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>>11553338
galileo belived in the reality of maths like plato did, this is an idea that impulses modern physics, if they don't exist, not only numbers but mathematic models, theorems, etc., if they don't exist per se, why they can describe reality?

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Anonymous Sat 11 Apr 2020 04:33:17 No.11553388 Report

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>>11553275
i am math sometimes, but i still cannot answer your question

sorry

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Anonymous Sat 11 Apr 2020 04:36:52 No.11553393 Report

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>>11553275
Mathematics is just an extension of logic and empirical observation. Mathematical theorems must be true if they are provable.

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Anonymous Sat 11 Apr 2020 06:41:57 No.11553681 Report

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>>11553322
>mathematic

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Anonymous Sat 11 Apr 2020 06:43:26 No.11553686 Report

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Cats can count too retard

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Anonymous Sat 11 Apr 2020 15:25:18 No.11554502 Report

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>>11553338
Agreed

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Anonymous Sat 11 Apr 2020 15:27:00 No.11554504 Report

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>>11553379
They exist as ideal constructs, in the mind. But they do not "exist" in the real like the universe does.

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Anonymous Sat 11 Apr 2020 15:34:56 No.11554523 Report

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>>11553275
The first one
>>11553338
No, physics is a subcategory of math
>>11553393
No, logic is a subcategory of math
>>11554504
The universe is not fundamental/materialism is false

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