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No-Fap legit or broscience? #2

Anonymous Wed 01 Apr 08:31:24 2020 No.11521246 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>11521319 >>11521799 >>11521804 >>11524749

Previous thread >>11511974
Some studies:
Dangers of watching porn
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4600144/
Masturbation and hair loss
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/135817/
Fapping and pre-frontal cortex (WARNING SOURCE IS DAILYMAIL SO BEWARE)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2642712/Does-watching-porn-make-LAZY-X-rated-content-shrink-region-brain-linked-motivation-study-claims.html
Semen retention and sperm mobility
https://www.healthline.com/health/fertility/sperm-motility#treatment
Counter-arguments and other studies are welcomed.

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An????o?n?y?m?o?u?s Wed 01 Apr 2020 08:32:45 No.11521254 Report

Quoted By: >>11521264 >>11521276 >>11524953

Reminder to stay safe, everyone! Here, take a mask! It's free!

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Anonymous Wed 01 Apr 2020 08:35:32 No.11521264 Report

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>>11521254
Thanks

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Anonymous Wed 01 Apr 2020 08:39:44 No.11521276 Report

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>>11521254
I am ready and willing to defend my property from the infected!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 01 Apr 2020 08:41:06 No.11521283 Report

Quoted By: >>11521804

Porn watching can lower acetylcholine levels, which cam cause brain fog.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4600144/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Apr 2020 08:51:43 No.11521319 Report

Quoted By: >>11521332 >>11521803

>>11521246
There’s no science behind no-fap.

I’m down to answer any questions, but rest assured that all the claims are either conclusions from papers taken out of context, or conclusions from research that aren’t scientific at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Apr 2020 08:55:26 No.11521332 Report

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>>11521319
Ok coomer. Show better studies

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An?onymo?us Wed 01 Apr 2020 08:58:46 No.11521349 Report

Quoted By: >>11521804

No-fap raises levels of testosterone
https://healthfully.com/effects-of-masturbation-on-testosterone-5625804.html

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Anonym??ous Wed 01 Apr 2020 09:02:06 No.11521354 Report

Quoted By: >>11521804

Masturbation can harm functionality of brain regions connected with dopaminergic system
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S007477421630068X

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A?n?onymous Wed 01 Apr 2020 09:06:34 No.11521369 Report

Quoted By: >>11521804

Nofap reduces sexual dysfunction
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5039517/

Anonymo??us

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Anonymo??us Wed 01 Apr 2020 09:10:16 No.11521384 Report

Quoted By: >>11521804

Fapping downregulates some of the androgenic receptors. Here's the link with all the rat and human studies.
https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/masturbation-downregulates-certain-androgenic-receptors-in-the-brain-and-upregulates-certain-estro.6998/

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Anon?y???m??o?us??? Wed 01 Apr 2020 10:49:25 No.11521660 Report

Quoted By: >>11521751 >>11524380

is no-fap really worth it? i feel stressed out as fuck after few days with random boners all the time but as soon as i fap once it's all gone, though i feel hazy for a while

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Apr 2020 10:53:48 No.11521669 Report

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All Fap-related issues are problems that stem from circumcision. Off yourself.

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A???no???n?ymo??u?s Wed 01 Apr 2020 11:25:28 No.11521751 Report

Quoted By: >>11521784 >>11521796 >>11524370

>>11521660
>is no-fap worth it?
Absolutely you will gain more energy and confidence. Your skin will start to look better. It will be easier for you to focus etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Apr 2020 11:39:28 No.11521784 Report

Quoted By: >>11521804 >>11521807

>>11521751
>BS with no evidence

Nofap is a cult.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Apr 2020 11:43:54 No.11521796 Report

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>>11521751
damn so 15 days and I’ll turn into the prince of Sayajins? ayyy nigga I have to stop COOOOOOOOOOOMing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Apr 2020 11:45:24 No.11521799 Report

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>>11521246
I can't get off to the vast (vast) majority of porn, so I never realized just how much content the average straight man has at his disposal. You can literally watch porn forever.

Nofap is unnecessary to live a good life, as shown by history, but Noporn is essential.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Apr 2020 11:47:40 No.11521803 Report

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>>11521319
Right well I found that compulsive masturbation has caused problems for me
-lower back pain (gone when abstained)
-right rib cage pain (gone when abstained)
-brain fog (gone when abstained)
-right hand weak and strength was non existent (gone when abstained
-arteries in right hand felt like pin pricks (gone when abstained)
-high pitch voice (gone when abstained)
-anxiety and depression (gone when abstained)
-low semen volume to the point of liquid state (gone when abstained)

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A??no???n?y?mo??u?s Wed 01 Apr 2020 11:47:45 No.11521804 Report

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>>11521784
>no evidence
>>11521246
>>11521283
>>11521349
>>11521354
>>11521369
>>11521384

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Apr 2020 11:49:27 No.11521807 Report

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>>11521784
Ok tranny how many shekels you getting paid

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An??on??y?m??o?us?? Wed 01 Apr 2020 12:05:30 No.11521838 Report

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I don't really have anymore studies, but there is a documentary about masturbation addicts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03VxKKqVPQM

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A???n???ony?m?ou?s? Wed 01 Apr 2020 15:09:12 No.11522359 Report

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Porn industry uses biological phenomenon called Coolidge effect. With every new female introduced sexual interest in renewed. Brain releases dopamine to each novel female. This is what makes porn so addicting.

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A?n?o??ny?m?o?u??s? Wed 01 Apr 2020 15:13:19 No.11522378 Report

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Funny thing is that nowadays studies have no control group. It is because nearly every male in college age watches porn regularly. That is why there is so little studies on a subject.

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An?onymou?s Wed 01 Apr 2020 16:36:53 No.11522659 Report

Quoted By: >>11524109

Are the shitty facebook memes necesary to prove your point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Apr 2020 22:52:44 No.11524109 Report

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>>11522659
>shitty Facebook memes
I need sth to grab your attention.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Apr 2020 22:55:14 No.11524119 Report

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You’ll get infected on nofap srs

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Anonymous Wed 01 Apr 2020 23:10:42 No.11524129 Report

Quoted By: >>11524153

Arousal addiction symptoms can often be mistaken with adhd, depression, OCD or social anxiety disorder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 01 Apr 2020 23:18:39 No.11524153 Report

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>>11524129
Psychiatrists often think that all those conditions are primary. They often don't acknowledge the fact that those symptoms can be result of a porn addiction.

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Anonymous Wed 01 Apr 2020 23:32:58 No.11524185 Report

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Doing NoFap gives can help you restore dopamine receptors & levels. It is important because constant ejaculating can and will reduce the amount of dopamine receptors in your brain.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 00:11:22 No.11524264 Report

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Studies showing similarity in brain activity between porn watchers and drug addicts.
https://pornstudycritiques.com/current-list-of-brain-studies-on-porn-users/

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Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 00:17:13 No.11524279 Report

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Fapping and its relation with psychopathology and prostate dysfunction.
http://mare.ispa.pt/ficheiros/artigos/costa_2012.pdf

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An??o???n???y?mo?us Thu 02 Apr 2020 00:36:59 No.11524323 Report

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bros... I recently broke my nofap streak with 4 cooms in 3 days... Pray for me please

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 00:55:42 No.11524370 Report

Quoted By: >>11524598

>>11521751
>Absolutely you will gain more energy and confidence. Your skin will start to look better.
You know what else will do this, with an even more dramatic overall effect? Strength training. Lazy people deserve the health effects of being lazy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 00:59:14 No.11524380 Report

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>>11521660
>few days to get random boners again

bruh it takes me 3 weeks minimum wtf

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Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 02:12:36 No.11524592 Report

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Here's an infographic comparing pornography and cocaine addiction

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 02:14:06 No.11524598 Report

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>>11524370
I didn't that you shouldn't train. You can combine strength training and nofap

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Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 02:17:36 No.11524604 Report

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Something to think about

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Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 02:49:50 No.11524714 Report

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This anon said it best. Please read his posts.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 03:02:49 No.11524746 Report

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Here are some studies linking porn addiction with sexual problems
https://pornstudycritiques.com/studies-reporting-relationships-between-porn-use-in-young-men-and-ed-anorgamsia-low-sexual-desire-delayed-ejaculation-and-lower-brain-activation-to-sexual-images/

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Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 03:03:35 No.11524749 Report

Quoted By: >>11524751 >>11524757

>>11521246
It's legit bro science. Like fruitarianism, the alkaline diet and other specious health advice, it can be effective due to incidental results. I.E. nofapping might help you objectify women less, slightly improving social skills. Maybe it'll help you waste less time and develop better focus. Maybe it'll help you direct your focus away from yourself and be less narcissistic. There's all kinds of ways it could help, but none are guaranteed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 03:05:08 No.11524751 Report

Quoted By: >>11524795

>>11524749
What about the studies?

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A???n?o?n?y?m?ou?s? Thu 02 Apr 2020 03:07:04 No.11524757 Report

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>>11524749
Objectifying women more works even better if you are Chad.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 03:09:16 No.11524766 Report

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Porn addicts can also have withdrawal symptoms.
https://pornstudycritiques.com/studies-find-escalation-and-habituation-in-porn-users/

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Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 03:14:58 No.11524780 Report

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Health benefits of sex in comparison with fapping
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2009.01677.x

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 03:22:09 No.11524795 Report

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>>11524757
Chad no need social skill. All Chad gotta do is drive da ball.
>>11524751
Link 1 is a perfect example of an incidental consequence. Nofapping might help you cut down on the fucked up porn. The two are related, but not directly dependent upon one another. No porning might be a healthier choice. Just like those fad diets, maybe they work, or maybe it's just the fact you've begun eating more of what you should be eating.

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Anon?ymous? Thu 02 Apr 2020 04:24:38 No.11524950 Report

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thanks fren

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Anon?ym?ous Thu 02 Apr 2020 04:25:43 No.11524953 Report

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>>11521254
gimme!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 10:20:12 No.11525500 Report

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>>11524380
idk my libido is rather big i guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 10:32:17 No.11525520 Report

Quoted By: >>11525542

>two threads about fucking jerking off
btw endocrinology is way more complicated than just "testosterone good, estrogen bad" and neurochemistry is way more complicated than "dopamine bad" and neurology is more complicated than "brain """shrink""" bad".

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Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 10:44:19 No.11525542 Report

Quoted By: >>11525901

>>11525520
>brain shrink good

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 14:15:42 No.11525901 Report

Quoted By: >>11525952

>>11525542
you brain always ""shrinks"" due to various things but it returns back to its original size. same thing with stress and masturbation, it's not irreversible. even alcohol caused brain atrophy is reversible.
point is brain shrinkage =/= permanent brain damage and retardation

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 14:38:06 No.11525952 Report

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>>11525901
i don't remember now exactly, but doesn't alcohol in big amounts destroy proteins in your brain in a way similiar to what frying scrambling eggs look like?

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Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 17:44:23 No.11526446 Report

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Study showing that people abstianing from porn are better at delaying gratification.
No-fap can even make you less neurotic and more extroverted.
http://www.alec-sproten.eu/language/en/2016/01/18/how-abstinence-affects-preferences/

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Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 18:01:12 No.11526491 Report

Quoted By: >>11526496

Ejaculation reduces oxytocin levels. Oxitocin is a hormone responsible for bonding with other human beings.
https://sites.tufts.edu/emotiononthebrain/2014/11/18/postcoital-neurochemistry-the-blues-and-the-highs/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 18:02:52 No.11526496 Report

Quoted By: >>11526512

>>11526491
I never bond with anyone because everyone finds me too weird and socially awkward.

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Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 18:07:30 No.11526508 Report

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Scientific study showing that porn can affect your sexual tastes. People start get get aroused bythings they proviously found disturbing or unethical or both.
https://fightthenewdrug.org/how-porn-affects-sexual-tastes/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 18:08:34 No.11526512 Report

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>>11526496
Try nofap then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 19:14:15 No.11526745 Report

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anecdotally, porn abstinence makes me more focused, driven, and socially outgoing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 02 Apr 2020 20:49:29 No.11526989 Report

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>>11521276
Holy shit bro, those boots are /fa/

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