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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 01:50:56 2020 No.11493597 View Reply Original Report

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So /Sci/ how likely is it that COVID-19 Will mutate into a deadlier strain via anti-genic shift now a virus with a high R0 has reached certain parts of south america where there are bats carrying other diseases like ebola?

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 01:52:37 No.11493601 Report

Quoted By: >>11493615 >>11493645

>>11493597
Do Brazilians eat bats at the same rate as gooks?

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 01:54:40 No.11493608 Report

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i think they will rather create a second spanishflu with all these lockdowns. Only the agressive deadly types of this new virus will be able to spread through hospitals, all mild cases are going to die off in isolation

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 01:57:19 No.11493615 Report

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>>11493601
>Do Brazilians eat bats at the same rate as gooks?
They do.
That's why we're fucked. COVID-19 will look like a common flue compared to shit that's gonna come out of Brazil in the next 6 months.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 01:59:31 No.11493623 Report

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>>11493615
If 4chan anon can figure this out I'm sure epidemologists are already telling the world to deny all planes from Brazil for next several months

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 02:06:31 No.11493636 Report

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>>11493623
According to Kennedy anon, Brazil virus could have a 15% lethality rate.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 02:11:31 No.11493645 Report

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>>11493601
From what i've read scientists believe that it is possible for a version of SARS like coronaviruses to directly spill over to humans and infect human cells. Also there is always the possibility of livestock their becoming infected through say a bat dropping saliva covered fruit an a piece of livestock eating it.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature12711
2013 Study finding SARS related coronaviruses in bats and which cells they can infect

Short 4 min audio on Coronaviruses in bats https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/20/807742861/new-research-bats-harbor-hundreds-of-coronaviruses-and-spillovers-arent-rare

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 02:15:06 No.11493659 Report

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>>11493636
>According to Kennedy anon

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 02:15:23 No.11493662 Report

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>>11493636
Based anon, This actually is what sent me down the rabbit hole to begin with a week or two back. I read this image like a month and a bit back and blew it off as fearporn/fud to begin with but as times gone on i've noticed how much of it has become true. Mainly the media and world leaders downplaying the virus as if nothing is happening was the major factor to believe that this whistleblower isn't a LARP. Also the Scottish government today said that the R0 rate predicted by the Chinese is actually a lot higher than 2-3 which they suspected and the image says 6 and not 3.

The Italy and stock market crashing part of the image may have just been educated guesses

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 02:17:29 No.11493668 Report

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>>11493659
everything he said has come true. go back to plebbit, dipshit

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 02:17:46 No.11493669 Report

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>>11493615
Fuuuuuck
the suspense is killing me

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 02:23:18 No.11493685 Report

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>>11493668
>everything he said has come true
>except for all the stuff that didn't

Go back to /pol/

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 02:24:23 No.11493686 Report

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>>11493685
What part of the image hasn't come true yet anon?
I literally hate /Pol/ but there have been legitimate whistleblowers there before

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 02:25:15 No.11493691 Report

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>>11493685
>plebbit spacing
yep, go back

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 02:27:00 No.11493695 Report

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https://www.sciencealert.com/these-brazilian-vampire-bats-have-started-feeding-on-humans-for-the-first-time

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/09/180927145531.htm

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 02:35:01 No.11493705 Report

Quoted By: >>11493724 >>11493761

>>11493686
Because it was the fact that Trump and a lot of European leaders were acting like a bunch of retards for most of February a sound proof the west got blind-sighted. And yeah, we knew this virus was bad since December when China was literally destroying routes to prevent the spread. Most of that post is just "OMG THE SKY IS FALLING DOWN YALL" and /pol/tards ate it up like "HOLY SHIT IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING /POL/ IS ALWAYS RIGHT"

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 02:41:48 No.11493724 Report

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>>11493705
My guy this post has been buried for a while and only recently people have started posting it I literally never browse /Pol/ but this guy predicted the stock market crash on the date, warned us about incorrect R0 told us about high profile investors pulling their stocks stealthily predicted Italy as the centre of the outbreak yeah Italy and stocks might of been an educated guess but this doesn't discredit the fact that antigenic shift may occur

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 02:52:51 No.11493751 Report

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>>11493724
>falling stock
Whoa, you mean to tell me he was able to predict an economic crash when a disease, ravaging China at an alarming rate, was looming over the west, which didn't take any preliminary measurements against it (and also apparently knowing about the virus according to that larp)
>incorrect R0
His R0 is way off from the one established by any credible scientific paper out there. But I guess they are just lying too.
>Italy
This is literally the only reason this post has any credibility. Also by the logistics of how the virus work, this couldn't have been predicted by anyone.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 02:55:11 No.11493761 Report

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>>11493705
>Because it was the fact that Trump and a lot of European leaders were acting like a bunch of retards for most of February a sound proof the west got blind-sighted.
That's a weird way of saying they were right.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 02:57:23 No.11493768 Report

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>>11493724
>>11493751
Italy is in first layover stop for Europeans coming from China.

It was an educated guess.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 03:00:21 No.11493777 Report

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>>11493751
>His R0 is way off from the one established by any credible scientific paper out there.
It's obvious that establishing an R0 from current evidence is extremely flawed. We're learning from the number of asymptomatic people that the R0 must be much higher than testing is actually revealing, although that also means the mortality rate is also being overestimated.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 03:18:43 No.11493824 Report

Quoted By: >>11493833 >>11493836

>>11493636

Viruses don't just become more lethal over time for no reason. The evolutionary pressure selects for an optimal virulence. If it kills hosts too quickly then it can't spread as well. It already spreads extremely well so what would pressure it to become more lethal now?

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 03:22:42 No.11493833 Report

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>>11493824
They can if they cross with a more lethal virus that it can splice with.

The bats in Brazil have a different reservoir of corona viruses that the China ones do. Lots of potential

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 03:25:00 No.11493836 Report

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>>11493824
The extremely long incubation period during which the host remains contagious seems like a fairly special trait of SARS-CoV-2, quarantining may have played a role. If it turned more deadly after the incubation period, it wouldn't really hurt the rate of spread.

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 14:01:26 No.11494946 Report

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>>11493751
The Scottish government on TV literally yesterday said the R0 is higher than the 2-3 estimated which came out of China

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Anonymous Mon 23 Mar 2020 14:13:33 No.11494975 Report

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>>11493597
Fromhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6537279/
> Coronaviruses primarily infect birds and mammals, causing a variety of lethal diseases that particularly impact the farming industry [3, 4].

Also, https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2020/03/20/2-dogs-test-positive-quarantined-for-coronavirus-in-Hong-Kong/9461584725129/

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